Career beta...just took TRP.

Westernhagen · 2017-08-14T20:31:54+00:00

This is going to sound foreign to you, but when my wife asks me to do something I don't want to do, I simply tell her "no". Can you believe it? If you haven't used that word before (it means no, by the way) try it out sometime!

atlhart · 2017-08-15T01:31:27+00:00

An aside: in my experience you'll never find a greater saboteur on your lifting goals than you're own wife. The ways they try to manipulate you into continuing to be their beta fat fuck are inexhaustible.

But be a man and tell her not to get in the way.

justpickanyusername · 2017-08-14T20:58:19+00:00

Don't flirt via text. At least yet anyway. Your in person game needs to be solid before doing this. Deadbedroom to any form of sexting is not a natural transition.

I think you are doing fine and you seem to grasp the overall concepts here. You're off to a good start. You stood up for yourself and took a reasonable stance in not being an errand boy for someone you don't even really know.

Move on and stop hamstering about this one little shit test of many to come.

Keep reading and lift like crazy.

anythinginc · 2017-08-14T22:14:32+00:00

OP, you should be damn proud of yourself. Your GUT is leading you in the right direction here (saying no) and you are listening to it. You are ahead of the game man. Many men are so far along they don't have a gut instinct anymore, or have tuned it out, or have killed it from swallowing their bile so often, or they are so twisted their gut leads them in the wrong direction. But you have a good one, and can hear it, and heed it.

Imagine what can happen once you know you are valuable, once you have the confidence to say what you mean without fear and without your hamster running wild. Once she can't manipulate you anymore. She may not like you all the time, that is what your value and game and comfort is for, but you'll respect yourself, and if she is meant to stick around, she will respect you for it too. And once that respect/value/attraction/ownership dynamic gets going, well, then you get to start answering questions instead of asking them.

You didn't mention NMMNG or WISNIFG, but those need to be at the top of your free time reading list.

RE: Texting, listen to that gut man, it is telling you that you aren't legit enough yet to pull off that text game. Someday soon though you're gonna just fire that shit off without thinking about it just to see what happens.

See you on the other side man.

SeamusAwl · 2017-08-14T22:32:57+00:00

Your answer to her was perfect. Thats why she said okay and got quiet. Her hamster was spinning as fast as yours.

Here is where you went wrong. After she said okay you should have grabbed her waist and pulled her in to you. Then told her "what does interest me is...". Grab her butt with a hand a squeeze "... a getting a piece of this"

chachaChad · 2017-08-14T22:45:36+00:00

Sounds like you are pointed in the right direction. Dig into those books and remember to go SLOW. It’s easy to get carried away and think you can sprinkle some alpha on and she’ll respond to thenruenman inside you. This shit works but it takes times. Also, you will fail... again and again... brush it off. Learn from it. Get back in there. You want to be a better man and so does she.

[deleted] · 2017-08-15T02:00:24+00:00

Your instincts are good but you have a long way to go. You are a trade mark nice guy, you need to quit that shit fast. As for trying to get flirty with your wife with the silk teddy comment, that made me fucking cringe. Had you have tried it with your wife, she would have rightfully beta shamed you. If she is not fucking you on the regular then do not even bother with cringeworthy and overthought beta attempts at flirting. If you want to fuck your wife, think like a caveman not a beta. Don't think presents, think a slap on the ass. Grab her tit when you kiss her. Just escalate, if she resists then withdraw attention from her. Don't say a fucking word, go and do something else. You need to get physical, not verbal with your wife. Also she acts like a boss because you don't, so start learning.

tacko276 · 2017-08-14T23:20:06+00:00

Start by STFU not giving a fuck lifting and reading the side bar Wash rinse repeat

granite2105 · 2017-08-15T21:51:47+00:00

I am right there with you buddy.Can you be worse than beta? That was me. In my early 50s. First marriage imploded, second marriage was close until about a month ago when I hit dread level 10 (before even knowing what it was). Found this sub last week. Wife has responded more than I thought but going slow. I am a believer and now reading everything I can.

thatguywhatshisface · 2017-08-17T12:39:05+00:00

Say NO. Let battle ensue, load up and stick to your guns. DONT BACK DOWN. Don't perpetuate that shit!

470_2_700_nm · 2017-08-15T01:28:34+00:00

What in sweet fucks name did you do to get that formatting? I've never read a post on reddit that looked like it was typed in notepad.

Nice job.

JDRoedell · 2017-08-15T02:45:16+00:00

Like others have mentioned, start slow. Your telling her "no" is a good start.

Don't worry about trying to be alpha yet, just worry about NOT being a pussy. That's your frame for now.

BobbyPeru · 2017-08-15T02:55:44+00:00

Get comfortable with those silences

[deleted] · 2017-08-15T04:26:12+00:00

You probably aren't addicted to porn, judging by what you've written

Red-Curious · 2017-08-15T06:09:34+00:00

Wife says "okay" in a tone of voice that let's me know she's disappointed and thinks I'm being unreasonable.

How often do you think your wife does things that are unreasonable, or treats you in an unreasonable manner? Like only giving starfish sex or limiting it to once every couple months? Why do you care if she thinks you're being unreasonable?

Am I being a dick?

Not to be too childish, but: "She started it!" Don't be that way just to get revenge, but sometimes you have to go into "jerk territory" for a while to figure that side of things out so you can establish a better balance after you've mastered both sides.

Why don't I just take the few seconds to make the order then she's happy and I'm a nice guy?

Because it shows that you can't enforce your boundaries, so she'll walk all over you in more important areas too. Start small and work your way up, not the other way around. This is a perfect small thing to start with.

Is this a test or a reasonable request?

If she's equally capable, it's a test.

I'm thinking I should have been more playful. Maybe texted her back something like " I'd be much more interested in ordering you a satin teddy." That kind of text isn't something I've ever sent before and would be totally out of character for me. What do you guys think...suggestions?

Playful is good, but if you do too much too fast she'll get a jarring sensation with your character. Going Rambo can result even from positive aspects of your change and not just saying "no" all the time. It's the whole 1,000 foot rope thing - move too fast and the rope will snap and she'll be left stranded. Reel her in gently. Save being playful for when she's adapted to the smaller changes you're making first, adding it in when you feel like the "out of character" feel of it would be more in-character because you're more fit and confident at the time you try to pull it off. Try to be sexy/funny before you have reason to express that kind of confidence and she might actually lose respect for you because it shows you don't know your actual value on the SMP, especially within the marriage.

jdogworld · 2017-08-16T01:07:23+00:00

Did nofap/noporn help you get laid or improve other things?

Title	Career beta...just took TRP.
Author	lpn_artist
Upvotes	7
Comments	41
Date	14 August 2017 08:25 PM UTC (3 years ago)
Subreddit	askMRP
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