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The value of an older, mature woman versus younger.

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July 24, 2017

I've been lurking and RPing for over a year. Late 40s, recently divorced. Got my shit together. Benching my body weight, handling shit tests, loving life, living it for me.

I recently started testing the dating waters. I met a totally awesome woman, lets call her S. Rather I was doing my own thing and she found me.

S is super together - upper management, making good $$, ex model, super sexy, great body, intelligent. From what I can tell her previous relationships were with betas who worshiped her and then she ended up being mommy to them and hating them. She is now totally aware of this and is seeking a different kind of man.

I have been mostly RP with her, calling the shots, being strong, deflecting shit tests, leading, leading, leading. She loves it. Lapping up every drop. Can't get enough. I find I have to be just a bit soft and comforting to her, but not much.

The sex is absolutely awesome. I'm fit and she craves my body. Won't wash the sheets for days because she desires my smell. I just spent 3 days with her and we lost count how many times she orgasmed. And 2 hours later she wants it again. From what I can tell, this is genuine desire. She has spoken frequently about needing it every day if she is in a good relationship.

I can totally see her being a great first mate.

So here is the thing - she is 47 years old. I'm 49. Her body is really good. She has a bit of fat on her ass and stomach, but not much. Her core is extremely strong. Her arms are a bit lacking, but nothing that a bit of training wouldn't tone up. She has a few sun wrinkles, but nothing major. Beautiful smile, perfect posture, lovely legs. Looks killer in a dress.

Here is the other thing. I look 5 to 8 years younger than I am and can pull attention from sub 40 year old women without much trouble. But when I find those women, I also seem to find trouble - too wrapped up in their kids, financial trouble, poor relationship skills, skittish personalities, etc.

Granted I haven't been dating long and I certainly haven't exhausted all the potential dates out there. But the fact remains that S outclasses the younger women I've meet by a long shot. In fact, S is the highest quality woman I have ever been in a relationship with.

I agree with spinning plates and dating lots. But with every date S and I grow closer. I'm not seeing anyone else at the moment, though the possibility certainly exists. S lives in another city. She is making changes to her life and is hinting she'd like to live closer to me and be exclusive. I can only put off commitment to her for so long.

So, is there something to be said for being in a relationship with a slightly older woman versus a younger women that can't seem to get their shit together ? Would you commit to S ?

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Title The value of an older, mature woman versus younger.
Author RPThrowAway987654
Upvotes 13
Comments 42
Date 24 July 2017 01:35 AM UTC (3 years ago)
Subreddit askMRP
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/205814
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/askMRP/comments/6p5c0d/the_value_of_an_older_mature_woman_versus_younger/
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[–]justpickanyusernameRed Beret25 points26 points  (0 children) | Copy

They just don't make pedestals like they used to. The newer pedestal models are just unstable and wobbly. But, the pedestals made about 40 years ago are just perfect for putting a pussy on.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (19 children) | Copy

You say the younger women you have met SO FAR have not been the quality of this woman. But you have not been "out there" that long. You just haven't had time to come across another 35+ year old that meets your standards. There are some quality women of those ages for you. This woman is NOT the only one (oneitis).

Add in that your girl is in another city, all the more reason to consider her as a plate. She can move if she wants, but you stay single and living in your own place, and non-exclusive.

You are implying making some commitments to this woman, when you have not played the field that long as a single man. Don't do it.

You are writing here for confirmation of your idea, and I just do not agree.

You can put off commitment for a very long time. Suggest you enjoy your new relationship, but do not move in together and do not promise to be exclusive. If she is really into you, she can wait. If all she wants is a B/B provider before she gets too old to get one and has to settle for being a cat lady, she won't.

You are the prize, thus her response, and don't forget that you aren't the first guy she was ever "into". You need more time... I guarantee it.

[–]RPThrowAway987654[S] 4 points5 points  (18 children) | Copy

Thanks for the advice.

Just to clarify, she is financially self sufficient, so she doesn't need me as a financial provider.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Just realize that the desire to "lock down" a guy, ignoring the finances, is huge at her age. You really do have options. Consider them.

[–]BobbyPeru1 point2 points  (16 children) | Copy

Firetemp gave some great food for thought... Probably because he's old as the hills

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (15 children) | Copy

The hills are younger.

[–]BobbyPeru1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

The hills are younger

I could say the same thing. You don't see me bragging about it all over the place

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

You are smarter, I hear.

[–]BobbyPeru0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Let's not get carried away now

[–]ReddJiveRed Beret5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

First you are only speaking of the sex. So right now she's meeting you requirement for a plate.

I agree. I lean towards women my age more then younger. I am 43. Still make sure you are not falling again without thought.

Is she submitting to your frame? Accepting of you life's mission?

I can only put off commitment to her for so long

No you can put it off as long as you want.

Brother you are failing to remember one simple thing. She can get sex any time any where and from any one she wants. This smacks of her making overt gestures that she wants a relationship but you've not done much to vet this. Ok. She works for it now.

What is she doing to earn your relationship value? What time is she committing? Make her work for it. She should be showing you and meeting your time and exceeding it.

If she is doing all that still giving up the sex on demand then.....

be Alpha. Do what you want. Every time.

[–]MRPFuckMe14 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

First off, you're looking for permission from the community. You don't need it. You do you.

Second, there are hints of oneitis in this post, and people here are pointing that out. Consider yourself warned.

But lastly, I agree with you. I'm 36 and divorced. I have three plates - 25, 28 and 38. The 38 year-old is by far the funnest to hang out with and we have the best sex. Sure, despite an overall rocking body, she doesn't have a flat stomach. She's got some crows feet around her eyes. But if all three of them text me on a Friday night, I'm heading to hers.

The fucking stops at some point and I'd much rather converse with someone about something other than, "Oh my God, my best friend is such a bitch. Can you believe she said blah blah blah... pointless nonsense."

[–]CrippleSlap2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

Rollo is adamant not to date long distance. Screams ONEitis.

[–]RPThrowAway987654[S] 4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

Well, she is the best woman I've encountered and she doesn't live in my city. What am I supposed to do ? I've been looking for better women, but yet to find one.

[–]innominating3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Screams oneitis.

[–]askmeanything22 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

Recently divorced and recently "testing" the dating "waters"

Answer this question honestly, how many other women have you fucked in the last six months?

[–]RPThrowAway987654[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy


[–]weakandsensitive0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

l o fucking l.

[–]DanceMonkeeDanceRed Beret2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

You paint a lovely picture of a very attractive, fit lady.....who looks the best she ever will right now. She is an ex-model for a reason. She is trending down. Again, she is the best she ever will be right now. For. Ev. Er.

[–]RPThrowAway987654[S] 3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

You can say that about any 40+ woman. And myself too, though I seem to be able to delay the effects of aging by lifting, diet, etc.

So is it worth getting a 5-7 year younger woman and a bunch of baggage over an outstanding woman that is older ?

She hasn't modeled since her 20s, by choice.

[–]DanceMonkeeDanceRed Beret1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Read Uncle Vasily on TRP for the reasons why you would want a much younger woman.

You also do not understand SMV.

You have oneitis.

And EVERY model chooses to quit in her 20's. Seriously, why does she need a hamster when she has you?

[–]stonewall19791 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

What books of the MRP sidebar have you read? Seems like you missed the part about the Rollo's SMP graph.

[–]Big_Daddy_PDX1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

We are wired to think that familiar is better than it is; especially in situations where a woman rings out bell. Only you can tell if you're Oneitis for her. Sounds like it, but that might not be the worst thing in your position if you have the tools and use them.

FWIW, I found myself in a similar situation, mid-40's, recent divorce, etc. audited a lot a lot of women before the divorce and the girl I'm with now was clearly above the rest (sex, brains, body, career drive, and i swear shes RPW) and she just turned 30. Could I find someone "better"? Probably. But I'm not looking to spend that much more time when I've already looked at the market.

You'll find your path. Just make sure you use those tools all the time or they get dull. And before you know it, you're Beta again.

[–]nonnimooseWoman, something something dark side1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

She has a bit of fat on her ass and stomach, but not much. Her core is extremely strong. Her arms are a bit lacking, but nothing that a bit of training wouldn't tone up. She has a few sun wrinkles, but nothing major. Beautiful smile, perfect posture, lovely legs. Looks killer in a dress.

Ah, to be 47 again!

You probably realize that in 10 years there will be physical flaws that no amount of training will fix. Will it matter? As a woman who is there now, I'd like to think that when a guy really loves you that it won't.

You can't really love this woman yet, it's too early. I agree with /u/FireTempered: enjoy this relationship but stay single. She found you, someone else might too. If you play the field and come back to S it's going to mean a lot more to both of you than if you settle into commitment so quickly.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

in 10 years there will be physical flaws that no amount of training will fix

As you get older you need a good pair of wife googles and she needs to have failing eyesight.

If you play the field and come back to S it's going to mean a lot more to both of you than if you settle into commitment so quickly

Yes this. You will always have that question if you could have done better. She will always question your commitment since you were so new to the single life and maybe you just settled.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

What's wrong with just adding this 47 year old woman to the rotation while you still date other women?

[–]simbarlionRed Beret0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I think your actual questions are as follows:

1) do you nice bunch of internet persona's think I have any chance with someone better? My sample size is 3.

2) I need you all to validate my decision to stick S exclusively. We currently have 'reverse' honeymoon sex. Can you please validate for me? (vomit)

How the fuck do we know? If you like her pursue it. But pay heed to the comments of the digital brotherhood. All care no responsibility

[–]BobbyPeru0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I don't think age is as important as the weight you seem to be putting on it to make your decisions. Also, Her moving closer and being exclusive don't have to come as a package.

I thought you implied you were already exclusive though:

I'm not seeing anyone else at the moment

So, the big elephant on this thread for me is ... Have you 2 discussed exclusivity or not?

If you have discussed exclusivity, then her moving closer doesn't effect much of anything...

If you haven't discussed exclusivity, still her moving closer doesn't mean you have to immediately become exclusive. In this case, take it slow, and see how it goes. It doesn't have to be all or nothing.

[–]gvntr0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

SMV of 47 year old woman is zero.

Provided there is not any baggage hidden by courtship behavior. In which case, subzero.

But there is probably no baggage here, right?

[–]The_LitzRed Beret0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

To answer your question.

You can find younger women with their shit together, and you can find older women that don't have their shit together. Age does not guarantee any of the virtues you seek.

But your question is not the question.

Your actual question is, what if you find someone better if you settled for Sandy? What if someone just as nice comes along but she is hotter, younger and tighter?

Go reread NMMNG. It will tell you that you are currently not confidant in your decision you made. You are starting to self doubt. I fully get how it happens. Did you meet through a dating site? If so you must realise those places are notoriously bad for finding good women. And each week a new face will pop up on your radar and you are left wondering if she is better than the current one you have. Sensory overload.

I can only put off commitment to her for so long

I would be wary if I were you. Is she driving the relationship or are you? You sound scared you will lose her if you don't commit, so you committing will be for the wrong reasons, putting you in a position of weakness.

Only commit if it adds value to your life, and even then take your time.

[–]hypergamous0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

531 words and not a single one of them is about what you want, just mentions of validation through sex.

49 years of age: What is the state of the mission for 50, 60 and 70? Does she deliver value in the development of the next stage of your journey?

If you have a life, health or financial event, would she be the right person to be second in command? Or are you just looking for sex and entertainment? What is the mission?

Recently divorced

If it's been less than a year, heck two years, I would strongly suggest that you reflect on what was the root cause of a failed marriage. Where did you fail, where are you growing, what are you still struggling with?

Make the commitment to have an account here, not just a throwaway username.

Best to you on your journey,


[–]Red_Dragovian0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Why are you asking our permission to choose a partner to be in a relationship with?

Your a man, make your own choices. ONLY YOU ARE THE JUDGE OF YOUR LIFE AND THE CHOICES THERE IN. So make a choice, because ultimately only you know what would make you happy.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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