TRP or MRP? Which content is better for a newly divorced guy?

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March 6, 2017

I've been fighting the good fight on MRP for 8 months now and I appreciate the fact that it's the red pill on hard mode. I always believed MRP's goal is to build better men, which is something that has resonated with me when I was married.

Now that I'm going through a divorce I'm looking at pivoting my game plan. The 12 steps of dread have become irrelevant. There is no more track for me to run on.

The goal is still to be more attractive and be less unattractive, so a lot of stuff still applies. It seems that the rules of the game are different. Like I was training to play football and all of a sudden I find myself on a baseball team (looking at you Tim Tebow).

I'm glad that I have a fresh start and won't have to dig myself out of the hole I created early in my marriage, so that's good. But most of the things I've read have been written for married men to learn how to improve themselves and make them more attractive to their wife.

One of the tenants of dread is that you will have an amazingly sexual and satisfying partner at the end of the program - and it won't necessarily be your wife.

So what now? Does MRP not apply to me anymore? Should I switch to TRP?

Anyone know a Reddit user that has gone through a similar situation and is a good example to follow?

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Title TRP or MRP? Which content is better for a newly divorced guy?
Author ManUpNoExcuses
Upvotes 9
Comments 16
Date 06 March 2017 02:41 PM UTC (4 years ago)
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[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

Does MRP not apply to me anymore?

Cmon now. MRP is a box of tools you're using. It's not rules you must follow that apply only to those who fall under its heading. No matter what reply you get to this thread...are YOU simply going to forget what you learned here and "switch"?

Assess your new life outside of marriage. Continue to use what you've learned here, and if you find the information lacking...supplement that knowledge with other subs that address that knowledge void, whatever that sub may be.

[–]anythingincRed Beret8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

The 12 steps of dread have become irrelevant.

The 12 steps of dread aren't irrelevant. They approximate and outline a man that has woken up and decided to better himself. Most of the steps are analogous to various guides for single men; dressing better, socializing, working out. A man at Step 9 is ready to ditch his current relationship and get new women. Women know this, that is why they feel dread from the process.

Being single, obviously TRP deals more with game; Bang! and techniques like push-pull and tinder strategies don't get discussed here often.

The TRP doesn't discuss frame and mission IMO, but their NEXT mentality will serve you better than trying to 12 steps of dreading your plates into being wife material.

When I was single and dating I went straight to the sources, Chateau, RM, Yareally, Roosh, then came back here once in an LTR again. I'm predisposed to LTRs, so MRP is a better fit I feel. And being a mature, valuable, attractive, not unattractive man with frame makes getting an LTR easy. Like we promised, you might not end up with your wife, but you'll be able to do better. So if you are at Step 9, LTRs are as easy as going to Target on a weeknight or Starbucks on a Saturday at mid-morning.

TRP has more youthful angst and disenchantment, it can seem toxic at times. And being involved is important at stages..and I found that there I was rarely compelled to say anything, where as here at MRP I was frequently compelled. That "being compelled" is reinforcement and frame building.

I see the two as more




For instance, if you made it to Step 9/12 then u/jacktenofhearts' treatise on Mayor game will serve better than anything I've ever seen posted on TRP.

[–]WesternhagenWinner3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

One obvious question is what are the circumstances surrounding the divorce.

  1. Your self-improvement is not complete; you still have bluepill / weak captain / Nice Guy mindset and behavior to a significant degree. Thus you have a problem that will likely persist into new relationships.

  2. Your self-improvement was significant but your wife could not overcome the legacy of many years of your bluepill / weak captain / Nice Guy behavior and be attracted to the "new you".

  3. Your self-improvement was significant, your wife was attracted to you, but you decided you weren't attracted to her any more.

Somewhat different approach in all these cases.

[–]ManUpNoExcuses[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Significant physical self improvement. Inner game has improved as well. External game leaves much to be desired. I've been reading bang and I bought day bang, the natural, and a text game book.

As far as where I was on the dread ladder, I was using game on the wife and it as obvious she wasn't open to it.

I would say number 2 above is the reason for the divorce. Someone asked me awhile back what value she adding to my life. It recently clicked inside my head, like a light bulb went off, and my attraction to her was gone.

It also helps that I'm getting IOI's from strangers and friends/gf's of friends.

[–]2ndalRed Beret2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

You'll want to read through /u/2gunsgetsome posts and comments.

[–]2gunsgetsome3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Thanks for the shout-out.

OP, your path through steps 1-8 is the same, you just don't have a single sparing partner anymore. It's still on you to build yourself into the man you want to be and conduct relationships on your terms. The difference now is that instead of DL9 when the situation doesn't meet your requirements, you can just "NEXT".

Now is the time to live your life for yourself, be and do everything YOU want.

[–]ManUpNoExcuses[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It's the lack of Single sparing partner that is the most jarring part of the situation. I know there are the last remnants of my old BP self hiding in the shadows, and I know my exwife would help me find those in a heart beat.

/u/thefamilyalpha had a post about burning everything down to the ground (your old self/crutches/ego) before you can be reborn anew like a Phoenix.

I just don't want to build a high-rise building on quicksand...

I'll check out your post history

[–]Karakal4562 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

MRP is RP for adults. There is good stuff on TRP but also much bravado.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy


TBH, theres a few divorced guys now posting in here, and it's starting to uptick... A lot of us have run game in the Mystery days, and it's not as if the knowledge isn't here.

End of the day, it's all about the subreddit norms. This place is smaller and skews older, so it's a bit different than TRP, which skews younger, angrier, and regresses to the mean.

Probably best to build a friends list, and view curated content only. Pick a good chunk of EC's from TRP, and flaired guys from here, and use your friends queue to read now

[–]alphabeta49Red Beret1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yup, now that you're not married, you no longer have to own your shit ;)

[–]RolandTheDickslinger0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Both have the same cores but with different goals and tactics. Digest both and see what you like best.

[–]Griever1140 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

MRP and AskMRP are still great tools to stay on the straight and narrow.

All it means is that you can NEXT any shitty relationships than the rest of us much easier.

The same rules apply, but you have more leverage.

[–]SteelToeShitKickerRed Beret0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I think that if I became newly single again, I'd probably stick around MRP. The crowd over at TRP is a bit... younger and in a different place in thier lives.

[–]UEMcGillI am become McGill, Destroyer of Blue Pill0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Well after a quick review of your account you seem to have no kids?

I came to MRP because of the lack of subtlety that often exists in TRP. No I'm not talking about kid gloves and being nice, I'm talking about the "burn it all down!" kind of answer for everything.

If it's a plate? Fuck yeah, cut her loose and never look back. Wife and kids? Not so easily cut loose.

We have divorced guys here who understand the nuances of interpersonal relationships, and you're more likely to find guys on the older end of the spectrum. In the end, it's a hobby, a tool to better improve yourself. Do what works best for your mission.

Slay bitches and add up notch posts? TRP

Revolving LTR's and plates on the side? Maybe we're a better fit.

[–]ManUpNoExcuses[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Thanks for your comment. Makes much more sense.

My N count is low, so I'm looking for more TRP at this point but I know I still have lots of weaknesses to work on if and when I want an LTR.

[–]The_LitzRed Beret0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Keep on improving. You will be back here with a LTR/girlfriend. You do not have to be married to use the tools here to run a relationship. Chances are you still need to improve, regardless of marital status.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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