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Ashamed of my own betaness...

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So I am a newbie, and I am Beta AF, so I am going to tell you guys about what happened today. Yes, I know I am not being respected. Yes, I know I am not attractive enough. Yes, I know Red Pill theory is not to solve specific issues, but it's a philosophy that must be internalized until it becomes spontaneous. I know it. Still, I am going to follow the instructions at the bar to the right and, yes, rant (see section C of the "Introduction to AskMRP").

So this happens today. My wife prepares some sandwiches of X flavor (doesn't matter, really).

I start eating them. They're good.

Nonetheless, I'm a ketchup junkie, so I tell her I'll put some ketchup to my sandwich. Ketchup is in the fridge.

Her stupid ST starts:

Her: "No, you're not putting ketchup to your sandwich. It has a great flavor. Are you telling me you don't like it?"

Me: (stupid DEER, I know): "I am not saying that. It's really good. I just like ketchup."

Her: "You want to put ketchup because you don't like the flavor, right? To mask it."

Me: I like it, I told you. I just want to put some ketchup on it.

Her: The food I gave you has enough proteins (or whatever). You should not put ketchup on it.

Me: I am going to. Are you going to stop me from it?

Her: You don't like it. I'm not cooking for you anymore.

Me: I really like the sandwich!

Her: Then don't put ketchup on it!

Me (standing up): I am going to put ketchup on it.

Her (she puts herself IN FRONT OF THE FRIDGE, BLOCKING ME ACCESS TO IT).: I won't let you.

Me: Let me (in front of her).

Her: No! You do like it? Go and eat it! You have eaten too much ketchup (or some lame ass excuse).

Then I go back to my seat and continue eating, STFU.

She continues her stupid tirade against ketchup, but as I don't reply, she comes close to me and says "I love you honey". I don't reply. Then she tells me "But you could put ketchup on the beans."

5 minutes later I am acting as if nothing has happened because my toddler is calling me, other kid is around, she gotta do some things, I have to wash the dishes (yeah), etc.

Just to top things (and I won't bore you anymore), half an hour ago, she put our toddler to sleep. She's by her side, I know. I messaged her that I was waiting for her in our room (to have sex, obviously). Of course she's not going out, but still, my stupid BP inside me keeps on waiting for "a miracle". She's going to read her Facebook feed until she passes out, and then stay in the room with our kid, so I won't be able to touch her.

I am very aware that I am not attractive enough to her, and that's why she behaves like that (since a long time, by the way). I am also aware of her lack of respect, of my humongous betaness, etc. I am aware of it. Thanks RP for opening my eyes. I finished WISNIFG and I am halfway through NMMNG. It's scary how much that book describes me. I think the very first step is that: awareness. Awareness of how wrong I am, of nature of women, etc. And, yes, after working on my plan, start passing stupid STs, like the one I described.

So, what would have you done in my case, folks?

So this is my life, folks. Anyways, Gotta go, but there's my story for you. I have too many anecdotes. My marriage is sexless AF... But I'll tell you guys later. Will keep on reading the books. God bless you all . Bye!

P. S.: No, I didn't put ketchup on my beans either.


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Title Ashamed of my own betaness...
Author mundocorde
Upvotes 10
Comments 101
Date 11 January 2017 06:54 AM UTC (3 years ago)
Subreddit askMRP
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/206662
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[–]Chinchilla_the_Hun6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy

"Acta non verba"...next time, don't broadcast your intentions, just do what you want.

Fogging also works with your example: "you're right honey, i don't need ketchup...i want it"

[–]Mecha750 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Succinctly put. If he did the first then he wouldn't need the second. But once he opened his mouth, fogging would have helped with the bitter aftertaste of toejam.

[–]mundocorde[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yep, fogging was the way to go, for a start. That and broken record.

[–]BobbyPeru15 points16 points  (4 children) | Copy

Her (she puts herself IN FRONT OF THE FRIDGE, BLOCKING ME ACCESS TO IT).: I won't let you.

Slap her on the ass, pull her in for a tight kiss. As you are kissing her, move her so you can get the ketchup (playfully), look her deep in the eyes and say "I'll take whatever I want" (subtext sexual language)

Don't take her so damn seriously.

[–]mundocorde[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Yours is my favorite answer.

That being said, she would be VERY ANGRY if I do that. Still, I think that's what I should have done. My kid and another kid were there, so I refrained from any action. Still I should have done something like it.

[–]BluepillProfessorMod / Red Beret8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

The proper response to:

Don't take her so damn seriously

is NOT:

she would be VERY ANGRY if I do that

You are not even pussy whipped. That would be a promotion. You are ridiculous and letting your wife treat you like a child.

[–]Mecha752 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

You will be surprised. My wife came to nag me that i didnt do a good job cleaning because i forgot to do "k". This was early into my short red pill self. She was expected me to bitch her out exclaiming i did x,y, and z. Instead I walked up to her saying "You're right, i should have done k". When i got to arms length i grabbed her by the hips and pulled her into me. She gasped and i kissed her. It took her all of 1 second to realize what just happened and she kissed me back. The whole episode was forgotten and she left with a smile.

I fogged before i even knew what that was. I was just instinctual and i figured shoving my tongue in her mouth would shut her up.

[–]The_LitzRed Beret2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yours is my favorite answer. That being said, she would be VERY ANGRY if I do that.

That there is your problem. Your whole post summed up in one sentence. Now get to the root of that problem. NMMNG is a good start.

[–]SepeanRed Beret4 points5 points  (4 children) | Copy

Nonetheless, I'm a ketchup junkie, so I tell her I'll put some ketchup to my sandwich. Ketchup is in the fridge.

Why are you telling her that instead of just doing it?

Her stupid ST starts: Her: "No, you're not putting ketchup to your sandwich. It has a great flavor. Are you telling me you don't like it?" Me: (stupid DEER, I know): "I am not saying that. It's really good. I just like ketchup."

"It needs ketchup."

[–]mundocorde[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Why are you telling her that instead of just doing it? I don't know, dude. I just casually said it. I shouldn't be measuring every little thing I say. Or should I?

"It needs ketchup." I'd rather say "I want ketchup". It didn't need it. I wanted it.

[–]SepeanRed Beret2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Seriously, why do you tell her what you're going to do? An old habit where you give her a veto on your actions so you don't end up doing something stupid? Does she demand to know where you are and what you're doing at all times?

Do you do it with everything, or just stuff she doesn't like you doing?

[–]mundocorde[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah, you're right. Shouldn't have told her. You make me realize how scared I am of my own wife.

Working on it.

Thanks.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Just get up and take what you want without asking her to fetch it for you.

She's either your wife or your Mommy, show her which through your actions.

btw. you'll struggle to get your body tightened up with ketchup on the menu. pure sugar.

[–]anythingincRed Beret4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

Welcome to the club man. We expect great things of you, and you should expect them of yourself.

[–]mundocorde[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

God bless you and your family, anythinginc. Yes, that's the spirit.

[–]cholomiteMod / BP Downvote Magnet6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy

You're problem is that you're taking her seriously. You need to be more playful and fun about shit. Remember, she is basically an emotional child, and she knows it. Women don't respect men who take them seriously because they know they're fucking insane and need to be teased and called out on their bullshit.

Next time treat her as the emotional child she knows she is.

[–]mundocorde[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You're totally right.

[–]BluepillProfessorMod / Red Beret5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

I am Beta

Let me tell you the same thing we tell guys who call their wife "the boss." Knock it the fuck off right now. You WERE a Beta. Now you are working on becoming a better man.

I would keep ketchup under the bed so that next time you are eating her pussy you can pull it out. This is a priceless opportunity!

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The man that could do that doesn't post.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I'm cracking up picturing him busting out a ketchup bottle as he goes down on her! Her: Honey WTF are you doing? Him: It fucking needs ketchup!

[–]drty_prRed Beret2 points3 points  (22 children) | Copy

I'm sorry man but this is hilarious. I'm envisioning it as an SNL skit. Amy Poehler blocking the fridge while Bill Hader sits there looking at his sandwich in disgust.

In all fairness that argument simply can't happen. Can't! You can never engage in arguments. Especially ones about something so fuckin trivial!

After I asked for the ketchup and she went on her rant, I would have put the beans on my sandwich and ate it like it was the best damn sandwich I ever had. Make her realize how fuckin ridiculous she is being.

[–]WhiteTrashKillerRed Beret5 points6 points  (9 children) | Copy

Arguments with women are pointless. Rule of thumb:

"Never argue with an Idiot, they will drag the fight down to their level and beat you with experience".

[–]drty_prRed Beret1 point2 points  (7 children) | Copy

You can't even debate with her. Let alone argue. Their only objective is to win. Solving the issue of what's being discussed is a distant second to victory.

The vast majority of conversations with women are about what she feels, what she wants and what she likes.

I used to make the mistake of trying to tell her how I feel during a conversation about say "someone who is pregnant". I now realize that all she wants is for me to give her open ended answers so she can continue flow in femine bullshit.

Warning though: don't give her too much of this. Otherwise you come off like a bitch

[–]mundocorde[S] 0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy

ant". The vast majority of conversations with women are about what she feels, what she wants and what she likes.

Hmm... I don't agree. She's extremely practical. She's always talking about things to do, bills to pay, stuff that must be done, etc. I am the one thinking mainly about my job, food, and when are we going to have sex again. Yeah, this is super beta and I am working on it. I need to lead. I will. I'm learning.

Warning though: don't give her too much of this. Otherwise you come off like a bitch

I didn't get this. Too much of what?

[–]drty_prRed Beret0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Don't be her friend. Be her man.

[–]BluepillProfessorMod / Red Beret1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

He's not. She would never treat her friends like this. She is treating him like her little boy. She makes lists for him to do and orders him around. He is probably afraid to make eye contact with her.

[–]drty_prRed Beret0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Funny you should mention that. As of late, I've made an effort to always stare her in the eyes while communicating. Previously, she would always hold contact longer than me. Now she has to look away first every time

[–]BluepillProfessorMod / Red Beret1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's definitely a start. I am confident this is going to be one of our success stories.

[–]BluepillProfessorMod / Red Beret0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Why do you imagine thinking about your job, food, and sex is "beta?"

[–]mundocorde[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Amen to that.

[–]mundocorde[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Don't be sorry. The whole thing was ridiculous. The only thing that was missing was the laughing track.

Still, I frigging hate being the Al Bundy in this stupid dramedy.

[–]speak_ur_mind1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

You and your wife both sound annoying as hell.

You both make a big deal out of condiments and ketchup. God bless you.

edit: no. it doesn't have anything to do with looks. You both have poor dynamics and give importance to trivial things.

[–]mundocorde[S] -1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

Thanks for your comment.

Perhaps you're right. I think I am very annoying to my wife. And she is to me too, sometimes.

[–]speak_ur_mind0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

In this scenario, she was being over the top with the ketchup. Just get up and use it. Don't ask for her permission for your taste buds. TC.

[–]screechhaterRed Beret1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

First of all, don't put ketchup on every goddamned thing, that's childish shit

Second, put the toddler to bed yourself and tell her she is sleeping in her/your bed. And, demand it. That's the first step

Third, lift Third- A Diet

Fourth, read and start learning to pass shit tests. This test could have been avoided in the first place. Go to a good steak house, does it need A-1 ? Go to a fine French restaurant and I fucking dare you to take out a packet of ketchup and put it on anything, let me know what happens

When you are owning your Shit, putting salt or seasoning in anything, is going to be because it needs it and not because of some stupid Fucking childish habit. And that my friend is why she sleeps with the toddler. Because that is childish Shit

Mommy, can I dip my carrots in ketchup ?

BTW - I dip my carrots in peanut butter - no, the wife doesn't fuck with me. I also pour salsa on my food, not spoon it. Course, I am attractive, so I can get away with it

[–]mundocorde[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

First of all, don't put ketchup on every goddamned thing, that's childish shit

Dude, let me be. First my mom, then my wife, now you. He he. I don't put it on everything, though.

Second, put the toddler to bed yourself and tell her she is sleeping in her/your bed. And, demand it. That's the first step

Toddler (still) won't sleep without her mom, but good call on demanding.

Third, lift Third- A Diet

So, regarding lift and diet. I read everywhere I should lift. The thing is, I am not fat, by any means. I am 74 kg. and 1.76 mts. And I am not ugly. I am attractive physically, actually. I am not an Adonis or that Old Spice guy, but I am OK. I am not a fat slob. So I don't know if I should lift. The same regarding the diet.

When I said I was not attractive enough, I implied that I was so beta that my wife felt disgusted at me and that's why there is not intimacy.

Fourth, read and start learning to pass shit tests. This test could have been avoided in the first place. Go to a good steak house, does it need A-1 ? Go to a fine French restaurant and I fucking dare you to take out a packet of ketchup and put it on anything, let me know what happens

I don't put ketchup in a fine French restaurant. But I do frantically look for it when I am having a sandwich.

When you are owning your Shit, putting salt or seasoning in anything, is going to be because it needs it and not because of some stupid Fucking childish habit. And that my friend is why she sleeps with the toddler. Because that is childish Shit Mommy, can I dip my carrots in ketchup ?

Kind of agree with you. Still, I should be able to put whatever I want in my damn sammich.

BTW - I dip my carrots in peanut butter - no, the wife doesn't fuck with me. I also pour salsa on my food, not spoon it. Course, I am attractive, so I can get away with it

He he.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Quit explaining yourself. A man owns a fucking decision even if it's a mistake.

[–]rocknrollchuck0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Toddler (still) won't sleep without her mom, but good call on demanding.

This is a big part of your problem. A baby I understand, but a toddler? You need to break that habit if you ever want your wife back in your bed. You both need to let the child cry himself to sleep for a few nights. It will stop when he realizes that mommy isn't coming. This will take time and effort for both of you. Of course if your wife refuses, you have your answer - she uses the child to avoid sleeping with you.

So I don't know if I should lift.

Let me help you with that: YES, you need to lift. You will become more attractive, feel better, and it gives you somewhere to go (the gym) so your wife can miss you.

[–]mundocorde[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Thanks for your answer.

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[–]WesternhagenWinner0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Before the age of about 10, mommy told me what kind of food I could have, and when I could have it, and how much I could have. Since then, I have decided this for myself. There is absolutely no chance anyone is going to break my "food frame" and dictate what, when, or how much I eat. I'm not even going to discuss it. On the plus side, it is usually only the kids who test my food frame by continually agitating for fast food. Wife knows better than to say anything.

PS You are getting it that "no ketchup for you" has her in the mommy role and you in the naughty boy role, right?

[–]mundocorde[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

PS You are getting it that "no ketchup for you" has her in the mommy role and you in the naughty boy role, right?

I am aware of it. Working on it.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

There's a lot of pointless fighting going on in your life. Keep reading, keep lifting, and get your diet on lock. This is going to take many months of consistent work on your part. After a while, it won't even seem like work. Start posting on the OYS thread. It will be good for you to gain introspection. And laugh more.

[–]BrazilRedPill0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

You sucked at it, but since things got that far, you should have put her apart, opened the fridge and got the fucking ketchup.

Stop asking her if you can do stuff. This makes her the dominant and you her bitch. It's fucking lame.

Set boundaries. You do what you want. You don't need her approval. You are the leader of your family. You want something, you fucking get it. Lift heavy, read the sidebar, think straight, think hard.

[–]mundocorde[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I agree, BrazilRedPill. The thing is she put herself in front of the frigging refrigerator, where the ketchup was. I didn't want to touch her, let alone push her. Ugh.

[–]BrazilRedPill0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

OK, keep on doing your shit way, you are good at it.

[–]bogeyd6Mod / Red Militia0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Just to pile it on, you also have boundary issues. You tell her like ketchup and use it whenever you want. After the episode she gives you shit about the beans and you decide not to put ketchup on it.

[–]ParadoxThatDrivesUs0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Sex is gonna be a long haul, but you should have little trouble solving this kind of bullshit if you read the sidebar. It's completely within your control.

[–]mundocorde[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yep. Working on it.

[–]Itstinksoutthere-2 points-1 points  (4 children) | Copy

Ketchup!!! You are a fat disgusting manchild and your wife is calling you out on your bullshit. No grown man should be putting ketchup on anything. If your wife is calling you out on your macros (protein) it means she thinks you are unattractive (like you said) and is trying to get you healthy. If you are living the Redpill lifestyle you wouldn't have anything to do with that garbage in the first place. You think this is about ketchup but it's not it's about you not taking ownership of your health and your body. Your wife shouldn't have to tell you what's good for you you should know and live that shit!

[–]black_second_coming1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

No grown man should be putting ketchup on anything.

But what about my tater tots?

[–]WhiteTrashKillerRed Beret2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

No Ketchup! What about a motherfucking Burger?

He must be European! Puttin Mayo on his Frittes!

[–]Itstinksoutthere1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Mustard. Avoid sugary shit at all costs!

[–]black_second_coming0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I know, I was joking. Actually I started keto again this week after losing 85 lbs on it a few years ago.

[–]beta_no_mo-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Was this a serious confrontation? Seems like a prime opportunity to pick her up and throw her on the sofa or bed and fuck her senseless. Then, go get your ketchup. If she refuses the sex, still go back and get the ketchup.

Either way, get your ketchup.

[–]weakandsensitive-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy

how do you have the energy to remember specific line by line conversations about trivialities?

what would i have done? i would've taken steps years ago to not become you. but since you can't do that, you can probably start taking steps now - like reading the sidebar and reading about STFU.

[–]mundocorde[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

how do you have the energy to remember specific line by line conversations about trivialities?

It happened about an hour before I wrote this, so it was fresh in my mind.

Yeah, working on becoming more alpha.

[–]weakandsensitive0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

so this conversation about this trivial bullshit was so important to you that you decided that you needed to store it in your long term memory? think about that for a second.

[–]redearththeory-1 points0 points  (4 children) | Copy

Her: "No, you're not putting ketchup to your sandwich. It has a great flavor. Are you telling me you don't like it?"

So that's the conversation she wants to have. But who fucking cares what she wants to talk about. Communicate what you want to communicate.

Suggested response - I'll be putting ketchup on it. * puts ketchup on it *.

[–]mundocorde[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Suggested response - I'll be putting ketchup on it. * puts ketchup on it *.

Yeah, but she's blocking the damn fridge, so... I could have stormed to the convenience store (childish), or push her to the side (rude?), or go back to my plate and keep eating (what I did: super beta).

[–]redearththeory1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Walk over to the fridge and say "You don't get to decide were I go in my own house or what I put on my food, get out of the way of my fridge and my ketchup". If she doesn't move, say "I'm not going to spend time with you when you act like a fucking child" then put the sandwich down, get your coat, say nothing more, walk out the door, go have lunch somewhere you like, don't respond to any messages or calls and come back 3 hours later. When you get back, your position should be "If you behave like an adult we can try spending time together again". If she continues to shit test you, leave again.

[–]mundocorde[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Awesome answer. Yep.

[–]weakandsensitive0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

if you weren't a scrub, you could've just lifted her up and moved her aside. but i'm guessing you haven't lifted shit.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (10 children) | Copy

why... why did you think this was a shit test?

how do you not know this was a comfort test?

how do you not know its NOT ABOUT THE KETCHUP?

keep reading.

[–]Mecha752 points3 points  (7 children) | Copy

Its a dead bedroom scenario, why would she need comfort? Regardless of which type of test, if that was a half way decent depiction of the actual argument, then he found himself a pretty good wife. She kept doubling down on the same test. It screams "please pass this damn test". She is his biggest cheerleader to becoming her alpha male. Now if the OP could realize that, then he would breeze passed them and could take her to the bedroom soon after.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

why would she need comfort?

Because she is a female...

now If you meant why should she deserve it.. different story.

[–]mundocorde[S] 0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy

Wow, I really hope you're right! I think you are, actually.

What does OP mean?

[–]Mecha750 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

Original poster. Dont be afraid of the shit tests but be encouraged by them. Shit tests suck for PUAs but are great for the noobie MRPers. Its a sign of hope because she wants you to pass and likes what she is seeing from you.

[–]BluepillProfessorMod / Red Beret1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

Women only shit test men to who'm they are sexually attracted. This was not a shit test or a comfort test, or maybe it was both. We have identified these as "Shitty Comfort Tests." They Shit Test over a comfort issue- i.e. bitching about ketchup while playing the martyr that you don't like her food.

Will you fucking stand up to this woman already? Jeez. This is painful. You are either so close, but no cigar (yet) or you are an exceptional troll. Either way I thank you.

Either way, read up on Shit tests and Shit Test responses. If this is real, and you start passing these then prepare to strap yourself in Dorothy, cuz Kansas is going bye bye.

[–]Mecha750 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

I wasnt the OP. I was telling the OP what OP meant. And i would hate to disagree with you, but are you telling me that for a newly married red pilled man to have his wife shit testing him is a bad thing? Its a helluva lot better then to be unresponsive to his self improvement. He should be encouraged if he is getting them because it means exactly what you said - she is sexually attracted to him.

[–]BluepillProfessorMod / Red Beret0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

It is a good thing! How he reacted was a bad thing. He needs to stand up to this woman and laugh in her face at how ridiculous she is. He needs to laugh so hard that he makes her laugh aka having a frame and holding it.

Hopefully you get the Matrix reference? If he starts passing these tests the way he should his DB is going bye bye.

[–]mundocorde[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Thanks, BPP and Mecha75.

BPP: I have listened at your whole podcast. THANKS!

I have passed a few STs. Just saying. Still, I have a LOT to do. Knowing the path and walking it are two different things.

Thanks.

[–]BluepillProfessorMod / Red Beret0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy

You guys are fucked. If it is like this about ketchup, what is the rest of the relationship like? Does she dictate everything in your life? It sounds like a mother scolding her kid.

Want a tip? It's not really about the ketchup. These incredibly stupid, mindless, pointless fights and arguments over trivial bullshit have their roots in something else. She is frustrated about something you're doing, or you in general, and the ketchup crap becomes the vehicle to release that frustration.

I'd guess she is extremely dissatisfied with you, for whatever reason(s), and you have a long road to a happy marriage/better self ahead of you.

[–]BluepillProfessorMod / Red Beret1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

for whatever reason

What could it be? I just...can't make a decision and decide. It is something though, I am sure of it.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's almost like dealing with a child.

[–]InChargeManRed Beret-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

All kinds of shit here, most covered by other responses. One question, why do you need her to "put ketchup on your sandwich"? Just get up, get the ketchup, and put it on your sandwich. She doesn't need another kid asking for shit.

[–]Regis_Divini-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

She stayed in your kids room where you can't touch her... ok. So the ketchup thing aside, it sounds like she doesn't feel safe around you. It's not that she's not attracted to you, she married YOU, but maybe you had a fight that got physical or a "discussion" that got too heated and she felt threatened. You should definitely take the time to sit down and talk with your wife. Ask her how she feels about the relationship. Talk about if her needs are being met, because it also sounds like she's feeling insecure. Talk about your needs and the attention you need as well. Get talking. Find a compromise.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

YOUR FOOD TASTES LIKE SHIT, SO I NEED TO PUT KETCHUP IN IT.

[–]Itstinksoutthere-3 points-2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Ketchup!!! You are a fat disgusting manchild and your wife is calling you out on your bullshit. No grown man should be putting ketchup on anything. If your wife is calling you out on your macros (protein) it means she thinks you are unattractive (like you said) and is trying to get you healthy. If you are living the Redpill lifestyle you wouldn't have anything to do with that garbage in the first place. You think this is about ketchup but it's not it's about you not taking ownership of your health and your body. Your wife shouldn't have to tell you what's good for you you should know and live that shit!

[–]GongShanks0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Is this ketchup shaming? Good grief dude. Red pill is about having self respect. Not being a fucking goody two shoes.



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