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Small Shampoo Bottle Thrown At My Head

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December 12, 2016
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So the other day I'm responding to Ex_Addict on some Ask MRP thread, and smack I get hit in the head by an unknown object thrown at my head. I'd like to share my experience and get some honest (brutal if need be) feedback.


TL/DR: Wife threw and hit me in the head with hotel shampoo bottle, I wanted to freak but held frame, closed with her later that day. Next day guess what? Heavy shit tests returned.

On the weekend our family was out of town with M&FIL as well as SIL and nephew at a resort.

Kids are off playing happily in another room with nephew, I am taking some time to myself reading and responding to a thread on Ask MRP. Just then my wife gives me an order (which she is doing a lot lately, not sure if main event is impending). I don't like a) her tone b) what she is asking me to do and c) that this is the first private moment I have taken since we arrived the day before. I ignore, and with in a moment or two WHAP I get hit in the head with something. It hurts, and I look up at my wife and she has this ":-O" look on her face as if it surprised her as much as it did me. I then look down at the ground to understand what it is (I don't actually find the shampoo bottle). I'm pissed. It hurts, and it has been done intentionally. My gut reaction is to get angry, ask WTF, and vent. But I'm in the MRP mode, and without skipping a beat, I get up and walk calmly out of the suite across the hall and into ours. I close the door and am alone. I finish my reply to Ex_Addict, and pause to consider my next move. My head still hurts and I want this girl to know she can't throw things at my head. I now she knows she made a mistake. I also know by her ":-O" face (and her gender) that she will not openly take ownership of the fact that she did this on purpose. It just doesn't feel good to do that for her. I decide with my head still hurting, to play the it didn't hurt game. Kind of like if a dude punches you and you look back at him and say is that all you've got?

So once I have composure, I walk back into the suite where everyone else is just sitting down for a bite, and as I enter she says right away "I didn't mean to hit you in the head". My regular self would have retorted something, but I didn't say anything, I just locked eyes with her. At this point she pulls her self in tight pressing her tits against my chest and her pelvis against mine. She says again something about "I didn't do it". I know she knows she did do it on purpose, and I also know she knew full well there was a very good chance she would hurt me. SHE MEANT TO. I'm OK with this, it was a fucking hotel shampoo bottle, nothing big, but fuck my head is still smarting.

I take the moment to set boundaries. Simple, succinct, and to the point. "You may not throw things at me" I say in front of my kids, her parents, and my SIL / nephew. No one says a word, they all know I mean it, and understand that the oldest kid in the house just got told.

I break the hold she has on me prematurely even though I want to hate fuck her right there in front of everyone and am really enjoying those tits and pussy pushed up against my body. She grabs some food and starts talking about what there is to eat. Here is some meat, oh and here is some cheese, and salad, and blah blah blah I stay somewhat neutral, but still allow her to brush her tits against me. We finish the meal, and I declare "the smaller children will never go for a nap this afternoon" (I really just want them tired so they will sleep early as apposed to the night before).

Nobody seems ready or motivated once the meal is finished and coffee is done, so I announce suddenly "well I'm off to the pool". Why? "Because the hot tub is awesome". I leave.

I'm in the hotub alone chatting up a SMV 1 or 2 below me and my wife's SMV, and this gal enjoying it. She's out of town on a girls weekend, and I know the wheels are spinning in her head. 10 minutes into the chat my oldest comes poolside and asks me this or that. I say who are you with? He says "mom". I know at this point mom has had a chance to see me in the hot tub chatting. Out of town mom scatters sensing she's in for some eyes from this guy's wife shortly, and moves into the main pool. The rest of the family arrives, we swim, play, and later go out for dinner.

Later that evening, kids are in bed, FIL asks women if they would like a drink. The all say "mmm... noo...." and father in law sits down. There is no whiskey there and I'm off carbs for the time being (Keto is working quite well BTW, abs especially are starting to show signs). So I don't want a drink, but I'm in the kitchen area already. I grab three glasses, and pour a drink my wife just loves into all three on ice. I walk over and hand a glass to everyone I know who will take one my wife included. I follow it up with two more in the next hour.

A short time later we have all the kids sleeping, and we are brushing teeth and getting ready for bed. I pull my dick out right there and she's receptive. She starts out right away with a blowjob, and then I fuck her hard like the slut she is for me - a good session.

So the next day I wake up and am going through my routine when I just wake up, and I remind myself. This isn't over. I can't relax. I reached no endpoint last night. Rather it was just part of the journey. My old self would have thought "OK now that we have an understanding everything will keep going well as it did last night".

And then yesterday happened, and somewhere about late afternoon the heavier shit tests started again and some were passed well, and some less well. Guess what: I wasn't in a position where she was clawing at me to suck my dick and get fucked before I left the house for sports. And guess what? That's MRP. There is always a lot of room for improvement.

How did I do. Any suggestions?


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Title Small Shampoo Bottle Thrown At My Head
Author 470_2_700_nm
Upvotes 13
Comments 142
Date 12 December 2016 03:40 PM UTC (3 years ago)
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Link https://theredarchive.com/post/206786
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[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (64 children) | Copy

You failed the actual shit test by punching her pussy pass and this is why she was shit testing you the next day. Betas let women absolve their sins with sex. Alphas don't reward shitty behavior. So here you are thinking you "won" because you got your dick in her pussy. This is so fundamentally backwards I don't know where to start. Take her pussy off the pedestal and put your cock where it belongs.

All you did was prove how trivial it is for her to harvest your precious masculine sexual energy with some silly coy girly sexual manipulations. She tosses a hotel soap bottle at your head and you spend the evening scheming how to get into her pants? Really?!? Why on earth you would you even consider rewarding this behavior with the good, hard sex women desperately crave is beyond me. All it takes is rubbing up on you a bit and you give her the pounding she's begging for? The correct way to handle this is to "reward" her with a non-PIV evening where she's left feeling empty for your cock.

Really now. It's like the idiots who train their women to get caveman by playing the starfish card. You are the prize.

[–]innominating8 points9 points  (10 children) | Copy

This.

No PIV, blow it on her face and say, "at least it wasn't a shampoo bottle."

[–]470_2_700_nm[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

"at least it wasn't a shampoo bottle in your ass" I think you mean?

Oh no wait I get it.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (7 children) | Copy

that's hostile and not Alpha. It shows butthurt.

[–]innominating4 points5 points  (6 children) | Copy

You're right darling, which is why I would have walked out, railed a plate, blown my load on her face, and thought to myself how much better that was than having a disrespectful wife throw shit at my head.

You'll say be an oak, be stoic, don't be butthurt, but here is the thing, there is a whole wide world or 24-26 year old pussy waiting to be drilled, and I'm not going to waste my time sitting around being stoic and non butthurt while a woman, any woman, throws shit at my head.

All this being said, a year ago I would have acted exactly as OP acted and six months before that I would have confronted her in anger right when it happened, which would have been even worse. How things change.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy

This is why all this is so hard. I guess it's a matter of deciding what direction you are headed in at the moment: upward spiral trajectory (your marriage gets better and better), or downward spiral trajectory (start spinning plates. Awsome and validating at first, then starts to feel sort of empty. And I'm not just talking about your balls). And since you're married and trying to make it work, I'm assuming you are the pairing off kind and not the autistic wolf in da club kind.

She needs to step up. Dread. You choose which brand.

I thought about it later a bit further: if she's throwing shit at your head, it's already really bad. She might be trying to tell you something.

[–]innominating2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

If done right MRP leads the man to get better and better without regard to the marriage.

Deciding between marriage and spinning plates isn't an up or down, right or wrong decision.

Yes, being a better man, and dread, would keep wife from throwing things at OP's head.

[–]470_2_700_nm[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

I agree. I need time. I'm heading in the right direction.

[–]innominating0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

As I said in one of my previous comments, your response was fine. Keep at it, your moving in the right direction.

[–]470_2_700_nm[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

If she really is trying to tell me something, I've already made my peace with that.

[–]470_2_700_nm[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

^ This is solid.

[–]470_2_700_nm[S] 2 points3 points  (29 children) | Copy

I hear you on this. Let's expand. Are you saying I should have withheld sex? It's my understanding that we are to initiate initiate initiate, and I've been doing this with success. Regardless of whether massive shit tests are going on or not, this bitch is getting attention from my dick.

So now you've suggested another thing, pointing out quite correctly that she displayed shitty behaviour, and that her ride to pound town was undeserved.

What would be your play? I think I like innominiating's idea of no PIV and finishing in the face with the shampoo bottle punchline. That's pretty good.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (25 children) | Copy

While I understand pikachu's reply, it simply doesn't work that way.

Either she knows that she fucked up and wants to apologize or she was doing it "subconsciously" to prod your shit.

If she were a MAN, you can do all that other shit you said after pika's reply. But honestly, if you do anything like that its you being butthurt. Thats the only way she can or would perceive it. Even her rubbing her tits on you was an apology. Why? Because that is her contribution to your life.

Another way to handle it would have been to ghost the occasion completely.

Why? You have three things to offer : attention, affection, and time. By staying you either offer all three, or are passive aggressive by staying (time) but not offering her those things.

Could have left the place and went to the pool immediately..

If someone asks, you had to take a hike / walk off your headache/look for a place to hide her body.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (20 children) | Copy

But it does work this way. A woman who's been fucked hard by a man of value will be radiating satisfied feminine energy the next day (at least!). OP's wife knows she didn't earn it -- he didn't make her prove her worth after she disrespected him. Shit tests the day after is what "regret rape" looks like in marriage/LTR.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (19 children) | Copy

fucked hard by a man of value

Absolutely .

But since she is throwing shit at him, we know he isn't there yet.

Men of value can get a lot of mileage out of their value. Think of it like the Value-Pass.

But its a whole different balance with a guy who is just getting there.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (18 children) | Copy

But you don't get there by being butthurt. He needs to display the cognitive dissonance created by Alpha Fucking + empathy in the form of stoicism/not being butthurt. That is truly impressive to a woman. Cause we can't do it. Only you guys can. That's why we follow you.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (17 children) | Copy

Tits or gtfo

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (14 children) | Copy

Flair added until complete

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (10 children) | Copy

dont see it, boo

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (9 children) | Copy

it's there, give it a minute.

[–]InChargeManRed Beret0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

ROFL, nice.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Ha!! Wow. Ok I'll be leaving now. With my awsome tits incognito.

[–]bowhunter60 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Has this actually worked in the past?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Not yet. That's not the point however. Maybe for stone?

[–]PersaeusRed Beret0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

pikachu's reply

fuck man, your killing me

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

wasn't actually meant in a derogatory way. but, meh.

[–]PersaeusRed Beret2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

I did not take it that way,

Medusa is a huge fan of Pikachu

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Pika Pika! Chuuuuu

wife and siblings in law are as well.

[–]Griever1145 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

When she is being shitty, you withhold the ONLY weapons us men have: time and affection.

She said im sorry, with her body. Her ONLY weapon. You literally excused her for hitting you so long as she puts out.

Do you see it now? She is shit testing you because you FAILED the shit test.

[–]470_2_700_nm[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I think you are right here. The blowjob and hard sex was great. But morning after I had this feeling like... "keep your head up".

I'm beginning to think I have failed this shit test as well.

[–]innominating2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

If you fucked her good and dominant, you did fine. You have kids, so you have reasons to let this woman hang around. MRP is hard mode.

[–]bowhunter62 points3 points  (8 children) | Copy

You don't think that withholding a brutal fucking due to her little shampoo screen pass exhibits more butthurt and ability to affect his mood than blowing it off and taking what's his later? I see what your point is about conditioning your response to her tantrum and rewarding bad behaviour, but my understanding of TRP indicates that his response was correct. She may have shit-tested him regardless the next day, and it's his job to blow it out of the water. I do find that the jury may be out on the officially correct way to handle this crappy situation, though.

I though OP handled his response and subsequent actions well.

[–]innominating2 points3 points  (5 children) | Copy

TRP would indicate walk out, call other plates and downgrade bitch who throws shit at head to lowest level fuck buddy, if you have time and only until she shows signs of the wall, then why bother.

MRP on the other hand would indicate OP responded well. That's why MRP is hard mode.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

Hard mode like a bear with a foot caught in a bear trap.

[–]470_2_700_nm[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Don't say that man.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Hyperbole that's all. Everytime I hear hard mode I have to smile. It's like a horse, once you learn how to ride it's easy, and just keep your hands on the reins. Any skill set takes some time to learn, but this is a more natural skill set that you have to give yourself permission to learn.

Guys in my office complain about there 1X-month sex or no BJs. These are the same guys that are mildly horrified when I mention anything with an RP viewpoint.

[–]470_2_700_nm[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The imagery was pretty brilliant for me at the time I read this last night.

[–]bowhunter61 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

That was my understanding as well.

[–]Scubastyles1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

And the plot thickens

[–]470_2_700_nm[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I think my best response would have been the one where I leave and don't return till much later, then when I do get back nail her hard and at the end of it all tell her straight and hard: Don't fucking do that again. Here are the consequences if you do.

Problem is it was a family event, and I can't just leave - my kids are going to start to be affected by that kind of thing. I wanted to make it a non-issue.

[–]470_2_700_nm[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Pikadildo you may be right here. I'm paying the price right now, she's locking things up - just gave me a hard no on anything sexual for the night. Will see how long that lasts.

However I think the essence of what is being debated here is how far one should go here to remove time & attention, how hard I should ratchet up dread, and how I can learn from this to be less of a pussy.

What is at play right now, is she is doing this constant compliance thing, and I'm fogging or avoiding it all together. I've got to say, it's incredibly liberating to all of a sudden not feel at the command of her constant direction through the day. I've just let go of the idea that I need to jump. It was almost unconscious to me to just go along with it. I guess I've been such a drunk captain she can't even imagine handing back the keys.

Fuck I look back at pictures of myself all un-kept and out of shape with a shlub look on my face for the picture. No fucking wonder the sex was dropping off.

i feel so much better now approaching a body i had in my early 20's rather than being a fat skinny guy.

[–]redearththeory6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy

I would have tried to fit the phrase "you throw like a girl" in there somewhere. But that was a difficult situation handled well. Nice work.

[–]470_2_700_nm[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah my best was "it didn't hurt". Good suggestion though.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

the phrase "you throw like a girl"

good one!

[–]BluepillProfessorMod / Red Beret7 points8 points  (30 children) | Copy

If you were a woman everybody would be screaming abuse and how you need to leave and go to a battered women's shelter. As a man, I suspect everybody will tell you to suck it up buttercup- you chose an abusive, hostile bitch as a wife so enjoy your life bro.

You are correct to not expect the shit tests to end. They shit test constantly and almost unendingly. In the not so distant past a backhand or threat of same could shut them up but today all we have is ignore and STFU while they have free reign to badger, cajole, deny, manipulate, bitch, whine, and complain. It is the best you can do and it is not going to end the Shit Tests. Ever. Eventually you get into a mind set where you truly are not affected by them.

When you get to that point the shit tests decrease substantially. Like the corner bully, when she realizes she is not hurting you or getting a reaction out of you any more her main motivation for the constant shit tests can be removed.

That doesn't end them, however. Only with extreme punishment, such as physical abuse, whips, chains, severe floggings, the Pear of Anguish, the rack (or at least a severe bare bottom spanking) can they be stopped. With the tools we have, they will ALWAYS continue and the best we can do is to simply stop caring about what she thinks or says. Then she cannot hurt you any more- though she will continue to try relentlessly.

Welcome to MRP.

[–]470_2_700_nm[S] 1 point2 points  (23 children) | Copy

Yeah we were no sooner home than she started with the bossy "I'm in a mood so everyone is going to be in a mood" projection of emotion on the household. Right now I'm ignoring it, but soon I'm going to tell her that's got to stop, because for example, she will then send my son after me to yell at me "DADDY!!!!!! MOM WANTS YOU!!!!!"

I don't like that dynamic, I'm just picking my time to make the point. Long and short of it, I need to tell her not to bring the kids in on her bullshit.

Another one she has dragged my oldest in on is the shaming for making sure my teeth are brushed, my hair is gelled, and my clothes are looking good before going out.

[–]mrpCamper2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

I'm really trying to figure out how I would react if my wife told me to brush my teeth. I'm at a loss here.

[–]youcantdenythat2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

She shouldn't have to!! Dude, keep your teeth clean.

[–]470_2_700_nm[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I made a mistake here and was not clear. I get shamed sometimes for looking good when I go out, sometimes under the guise of "you will make us late" even though that in actuality is not true. And she enlists our oldest son to help.

I see this for what it is and don't respond at all.

My wife is not reminding me to brush my teeth. I can handle that on my own.

[–]red_blue_and_hot0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Oh, I would have informed her that, yes, I did all of that. I also managed to not stop breathing in the meantime, and not forget my name, and not fall on my head while walking. Now that we're done with the complicated stuff like keeping my heart beating, is she ready yet, because the car is leaving in ten minutes. Also, did you brush your teeth because, woah, I can smell your breath from here. And, change out of your houseclothes into something reasonable... really, you were going to wear that? With how fat it makes you look? Hrm, if you want...

I only have to do this routine once every few years as a reminder to not ask stupid shit.

[–]freshona1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

I don't like that dynamic, I'm just picking my time to make the point

The right time is immediately.

You spot her doing that shit, you can take her to the side away from the kids ( or not) and tell her to either lighten up or get the fuck out of the house if she can't behave.

What she gonna do, get more mad? :D

[–]470_2_700_nm[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Good advice - I'll act on that.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (8 children) | Copy

Did you ever think about leaving the house and not wasting your time placating a cunt being cunty?

Find a hotel, read a book quietly if you have to,

[–]470_2_700_nm[S] 2 points3 points  (7 children) | Copy

I did not contemplate something that heavy. It was a cunty thing to do, but alas, it was only a hotel shampoo bottle. You get the bind I was in? I didn't even consider ghosting Note I think I'm using Ghosting wrong here I thing ghosting means leaving completely, like it's over that hard at the time because of this, however in the future I like all the suggestions given here. Had not even thought of them, and now that will certainly be an option in the future.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (6 children) | Copy

I used to own pythons growing up. Fun little pets. The one rule we just knew, was to never poke them on the head.

Step dad did it once, thing bit onto his hand, wrapped around his body. Took me and my brother to unwind the thing from him.

All he did was push it down by the nose, because he kept trying to get out of the cage, instead of eating the rabbit he threw in there.

You have 3 tools. Attention, affection, and commitment. Your SMV is what gives those tools teeth.

Build the latter, use the former to encourage good behaviour, and discourage bad behaviour

[–]470_2_700_nm[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Got it. I'm building.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

I am guessing he never poked a snake in the head again

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

6 months later I joined the military. Haven't spoken to him since.

Who knows? From what I remember, learnin was never his strongpoint. Probably blamed the snake, and kept doing it

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

tastes like chicken I hear

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

40 year old heavy equipment operator? Probably tastes more like ass and desil fuel

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

was talking about snake meat.... but thanks for the flavor profile

[–]youcantdenythat0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy

Uh, you should be brushing your teeth and taking care of yourself. This is why she bosses you around, because you're not taking care of the basics.

[–]470_2_700_nm[S] 0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy

Where did you get that I don't take care of myself? Where did you get that I don't brush my teeth?

[–]youcantdenythat1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy

Another one she has dragged my oldest in on is the shaming for making sure my teeth are brushed, my hair is gelled, and my clothes are looking good before going out.

The only reason I would be upset about this is if I wasn't doing it. If someone told me to brush my teeth that were already brushed I would find it cute.

[–]470_2_700_nm[S] 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

Good on you. I don't like my wife sending my boy to do her bitching for her. Can you see that?

[–]youcantdenythat1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

You can't always get what you want.

If you are going to get upset at all these stupid little things then your life is going to be a living hell. And she's going to be laughing her ass off the whole time.

Amused mastery is your friend with this kind of stuff. She's shit testing you. Another word might be teasing. It's a game. Make it fun. Find ways to tease her back.

Here's an idea, every time she sends your son, sidetrack him with something else. Find something fun to do with him. Go play his video game with him or teach him poker or something. Make her come looking for you and draw her into your frame instead of chasing hers.

If you let her little games piss you off, you lose.

If you show you can play her games right back at her, you not only take charge of the situation, you can then start leading them into the life you want.

You can do this with shampoo bottles too. When she hit you, you could have looked at her with a shocked smile, then went over and picked her up and cavemanned her into the bedroom and playfully put her over your knee and spanked her bare bottom.

Or you could have picked her up and threw her in the pool and jumped in with her. You could have thrown a pillow at her and started a pillow fight until you both were wrestling on the ground.

I know it's difficult at first, but in time you can learn to associate your anger with amusement. She's acting like a child, so play with her like one. Tease her about it. Find humor in the situation.

[–]470_2_700_nm[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

This is good advice. I like it all. If she had done that in the privacy of our home I would have chased her, unfortunately we were in a suite with F&MIL.

[–]youcantdenythat0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

You said the kids were in the other room. Even if she did it in front of inlaws, I would have told her she was being naughty and needs a spanking and would have chased her around a little bit and gave her some playful swats while she's laughing and giggling.

[–]470_2_700_nm[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I like this ^ and I think it is sound advice.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

I kind of struggle with this. If you do something minorly physical to them, even like taking them by the shoulders and moving them over or something, suddenly you are an abusive asshole. No matter that she litterally was keeping you "prisoner".

Its a monstrous shit test, because there is no right answer. You fail by not being "man enough" to do something physical, and you fail if you are "man enough".

Yea tough shit, suck it up buttercup.

[–]470_2_700_nm[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

That's kind of how I was internalising it. Right after it happened, having called so many men on the MRP subs little bitches, I challenged myself not to be one.

[–]drty_prRed Beret1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

My brother had his life completely turned upside down because he grabbed her, while making sure she didn't leave with the kids while she was drunk. Ultimately, the judge came to reason. Still, for a couple months it was fucked up. Kicked out of his own house and all.

[–]BluepillProfessorMod / Red Beret1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

On rare occasions I have used the lower your voice level and tone with a menacing and deliberate:

"Get...the...fuck...out...of...my....face/way....NOW!"

Of course as you say, just doing that makes you the shitlord even if she was literally holding you prisoner in the room by blocking your exit and screaming in your face.

How did we let it get this far out of control again?

[–]bogeyd6Mod / Red Militia1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Can confirm. Drop your voice a few octaves and speak from the diaphragm. Works wonders.

[–]Nyquil-Junkie3 points4 points  (8 children) | Copy

Boink her on the head with a bottle of shampoo tomorrow and say "oops... did I do that?".

[–]470_2_700_nm[S] 1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy

Quite frankly I was ready to punch someone. I don't care who it is, I don't like getting hit unexpectedly. Maybe I got smacked a few times as a boy where I got to the point as a teenager and was big enough where I began to exude the "I'm going to give it right back" and that ended it right there.

I get your amused mastery suggestion, however you've got to be in the right frame of mind for AM, and I can't fake it that well.

[–]mrpCamper2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Well, we've found an issue you need to work on. A rock or an oak doesn't get knocked off kilter by something like this. I realize the first fre seconds are like a whirl wind but you have to teach yourself to remain calm. look overall, I think you did a great job. A little less butt hurt after you told her seh isn't allowed to throw shit at you. Other than that you're good. But develop that frame to the point where shit can get thrown at you and you remain calm.

[–]Nyquil-Junkie2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

The others missed the AM part... oh well. You handled it well for someone with a short fuse. Good for you.

[–]freshona1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

That's just childish.

[–]470_2_700_nm[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yup oldest child in the house.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

why did you let her keep her underwear?

[–]470_2_700_nm[S] 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

Do you mean I should have ripped them off or are you saying I should stolen all of her underwear for the weekend?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

which ever. Either one sounds fun.

On the other hand, you know you are a mean mean person who drove her to throw shit at you. And if you say shit you are just a little child. Honestly, you probably did better than I would have.

[–]470_2_700_nm[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Well thanks, but I'm keenly interested if there as a different approach I could have taken. Check out Pikadildo's response it's interesting.

[–]sars4452 points3 points  (6 children) | Copy

I think you handled it really well. Nice job holding frame and the bj/sex later is a direct result of how you handled it imo.

I had a similar situation the other night where my wife was raging at me.. I was being calm/A+A etc.. she actually got so mad that she walked up to me and spit in my face. I've seen her mad and she's done some crazy shit before but she has never completely lost control and crossed the line like that. Like OP, obviously my initial urge was to get mad. I very calmly looked her directly in the eyes and explained to her that 1. If she ever does something like that again I will divorce her. 2. If it was a male that did that to me I would have beaten him within an inch of his life. Immediately after I explained that, I put it in the back of my head and moved on with life and decided it wasn't going to bother me anymore.

She was exactly like a kid who knows they fucked up. A little argument initially, and within the hour she was crying and begging for forgiveness, realizing how badly she crossed a line etc. Just told her it's all good, I'm over it, no worries etc, but I don't imagine it will get to that point again.

Funny side story.. that was a very uncharacteristically bad meltdown for her.. we realized she was late and next day preggo test confirmed our first on the way.

[–]470_2_700_nm[S] 1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy

Did you convert on this? Why?

[–]sars4451 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

What do you mean by convert?

[–]sars4453 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

Oh I see what you're asking. Initially I disagreed with pikadildos response to you but now I can see he was right. Even though you handled the situation well, you have the mindframe mixed up.. you shouldn't be looking for sex as a direct outcome of individual shit tests. You need to live in the moment.. if there's a shit test to handle, I handle it. If I need to leaf-blow the driveway, I leaf-blow it. If I want to go lift, I go lift. If I want to fuck my wife, I fuck her.

Over time, when you do everything right, become a real man, and she respects you, she becomes astronomically more receptive when you decide you want to fuck her. Make sense?

[–]470_2_700_nm[S] 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

Let me be clear. In the instant when I took an unknown object in the head I was certainly not thinking how am I going to handle this so I can fuck her later. I think the time where sex entered into my head was around the the time her tits got shoved into my chest.

[–]RCMasculinity1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

My wife has thrown exactly one object at me in the decade of our marriage. It didn't hurt, but getting whapped in the face with an unexpected object is enough to make anyone see red momentarily. Wives think they can get away with shit that, were it any other person on the planet, would end up in a pile surrounded by a puddle of their various bodily fluids. The sad thing is, they've been trained this way, and usually do get away with it.

[–]470_2_700_nm[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Did you fuck any part of her body in any way.

[–]Scubastyles2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

I feel like I just read about my weekend. Except yesterday, just before a 3 hr. drive she throws a pack of wipes at my face. I raised my eyebrows, laughed, and then calmly said 'dont ever do that again.' She pouted like a child and sat in the back seat with the baby.

Great, I'll listen to the skins game in peace. After an hour of silence she tries to come sit in the front seat and I say 'front seats are for big kids only.' She calls me all sorts of names and stays in the back seat. Idk if that was the right move.

By the third quarter though,she moves up front and tries giving me the old OTPHJ.

Tldr: your story's better. Good job man, I learned from you.

[–]470_2_700_nm[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

We'll I'm glad you did, but take note of the pikadildo comment thread on this post, I think it's adding to my repertoire.

[–]Scubastyles1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Well shit. I didn't win anything. Thanks for pointing me to that

[–]drty_prRed Beret1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

My only question to you man, is as you delv deeper into the tough games of MRP, have you thought how she may respond? Have you considered the potential for serious damage to your health? Maybe she stabs you in the kitchen? Do you own guns?

Good job on handling your situation like a man, but this would be my main concern.

[–]470_2_700_nm[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Good questions, she could stab me and she could learn to use a hunting rifle and shoot me.

That being said, she was fucking around I think and looking for a response, I don't think stabbing and throwing led pills is anywhere close to the same league. I can see how you draw a connection between the two, but no more than someone who might draw a connection between me pinning her to the mattress hard while I lay pipe VS actually raping someone. Totally different league.

[–]drty_prRed Beret1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Were you not talking about cutting dicks off jokes in your last askMRP post? Is she not BPD?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

You 'declare, set boundaries, etc.' dude you aren't leading these people yet you're acting as though you are.

You jump up because nobody is ready to go to the pool?

Tell me, what exactly did you do to ensure your wife and kids would be ready?

Your wife threw something because that is behavior you've accepted up to this point. That's not on her, it's on you.

Drawing that boundary in front of everyone, whatever I'd had the conversation in private but you do you.

Did you ever think the out of town mom scattered because some creepy dude wouldn't stfu in the hot tub?

I don't know what you look like but unless you've got the solid 6 pack or serious vascularity & the 'V' chicks aren't drooling.

Your wife isn't your enemy, the goal isn't to stick it to her it's to lead her as well as the rest of your family to operating at the highest tempo, setting the highest standard from which all others will strive to achieve.

You want you wife clawing at you?

Be a man worth clawing at.

[–]470_2_700_nm[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Solid advice and critique. Thanks.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I meant to write that to OP.

[–]bogeyd6Mod / Red Militia0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy

Reminds me of the time I amplified a comfort test.

[–]470_2_700_nm[S] 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

Can you elaborate?

[–]bogeyd6Mod / Red Militia0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Wife trapped me in the bathroom and made her reach for me, instead of reaching for her. Check my submissions.

[–]470_2_700_nm[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Hey I was looking at your submissions but it did not jump out at me. Can you link?

[–]bogeyd6Mod / Red Militia0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Not now, but can later. Ill priv it to you.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy

I draw a very hard line at physical violence, since I can't respond in kind.

Here's what you should have done.

After the shampoo bottle hit you, leave the house for the evening. DOn't come home. Return the next morning smelling of perfume, booze and cigar smoke. Tell her "if you ever throw anything at me ever again, I will divorce your ass." Don't say anything else. Don't tell her where you were or what you did.

[–]470_2_700_nm[S] 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

I like this. A variation on this has been discusses some threads up. I think it comes down to how big of a deal I thought it to be. And for me, I didn't like it at all, but it wasn't a big enough deal to warrant that kind of nuclear threat. I'll save showing the keys and the code for if it ever really is needed.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

You have to mean it, man. If she ever does throw anything at you again, you have to file papers. You also have to file a police report. Don't ever fuck around with her getting physical with you. Ever.

My wife hit me once, years ago. At the time I let it go. WHen I found RP I went back over that incident again with her. I told her if she ever did anything like that again, I would divorce her. I also told her I would swear out a police report, refer it to the local district attorney, and press charges.

[–]470_2_700_nm[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I do understand this is a slippery slope. For the time being I am going to keep cruising. I believe I need a higher SMV than she has with dread happening all around naturally.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

If she does it again, this might be a good idea. You don't even need the perfume smell. Just disappear for a night.

[–]470_2_700_nm[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yup.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

why say anything? Those actions speak louder than the largest bluff can

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

Being MRP doesn't mean excuse anyone violating your person. She may be the oldest teenager in the room but there are consequences. It's complete horseshit to accept everything a woman throws at you.

[–]470_2_700_nm[S] 1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

Agreed. What would you have done? What is your situation? How many kids?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Made myself absent for a studied amount of time. Come back at a late hour and screw her like it's the last time. When she cums, tell her never again.

[–]470_2_700_nm[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I like this.

[–]BobbyPeru-1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy

Major fail on the shampoo shit test. You let her use her tits to avoid even answering you.

[–]470_2_700_nm[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

You may be right. Currently she is holding out on having any sex with me because I don't "do what she asks" which really means I'm not responding to her driving me around like a fucking remote control car. So after the shampoo bottle, she then uses sex to bring things around, and as soon as she does, begins to stamp and stomp on me. Guys in this sub know what the fuck they are talking about.

We may be headed for main event, I'm not sure. I built tension all night and she responded somewhat, but then began to withdraw as soon as we were close to hitting the bedroom, then all out said she could not get into anything with this "issues" we are having.

[–]BobbyPeru0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

You should not go to a main event until you're ready. Focus on reading the sidebar, lifting, and MAPing. My wife used to ask me to do stuff like that all the time - recommended reading: "practical female psychology." That book discusses the phases of control in the betaization process, and one of the phases is basically having you at her beck and call with endless meaningless tasks.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00RR6RNO6/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1481604097&sr=8-1&pi=SY200_QL40&keywords=practical+female+psychology&dpPl=1&dpID=31x3q3Nk8sL&ref=plSrch

[–]470_2_700_nm[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I was under the impression the main event was not spurred on my the man, rather the woman brings it out. I'd like to avoid the main event if possible, I am under the impression maybe my marriage isn't as bad as it could be? Oh I know maybe my wife is a special snowflake and she's different from the rest.

I just finished that book while hunting last month - awesome read. I wonder why it is not in the sidebar? She is tasking me non stop and then blabbing to me asking why I am "being like this".

It's kind of cute. This morning I woke up and blew my load on the small of her back, carried on with life as usual.



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