[FR] Lessons from the Past: My Road to Zion

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April 16, 2016

Moved to /r/marriedredpill at mod request.

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Title [FR] Lessons from the Past: My Road to Zion
Author 2gunsgetsome
Upvotes 10
Comments 16
Date 16 April 2016 12:49 AM UTC (5 years ago)
Subreddit askMRP
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/207498
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/askMRP/comments/4ezq7g/fr_lessons_from_the_past_my_road_to_zion/
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[–]BluepillProfessorMod / Red Beret2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

How you got past the word limit on your first post is quite the mystery.

I sense an up an coming challenger to /u/jacktenofhearts

There is depth, knowledge and passion in this piece which is really aiming to teach with your unique (and soon to be mandated) use of [RED PILL LESSON].

When we talked about keeping a "Log" this is what I had in mind as the exemplar top shelf post.

Please repost this on MRP. This is way to good to leave on /r/askMRP.

Looking forward to your first year MAP

[–]2gunsgetsome[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Roger, and thanks for the feedback. My journal is on my work computer so I'll make the adjustments on Monday. I'll also see what I can do about adding some content navigation aides as mentioned by the vets above.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

I read this last night then it disappeared. Your story's almost Dickensian, seriously. I can't wait for the next installment.

[–]massimoliani0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Same. Glad to see OP got the removal sorted out.

[–]PersaeusRed Beret1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

You should have posted this wall of text on MRP instead of ask since this essentially a field report of your pre-MRP life, and you are not asking a question . I will wait on your MAP report to comment further . Nice , well written saga. You have recognized many RP truths. How are you taking the puss off the pedestal and killing your epic oneitis?

[–]2gunsgetsome[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I actually have a journal entry that I intend to turn into a post about killing my oneitis. I looked at my married relationship the same way I looked at my career (pretty much exactly as /u/jacktenofhearts alluded above). Experience has shown me there is an abundance of great jobs any time I decide to look for a new one. I've never been afraid to walk away from a job that didn't meet my desires as far as pay, respect, or (most important to me) stimulation. Basically, I embraced abundance mentality and confirmed it to myself through discussion with plate spinning and MGTOW buddies, and increasing interaction with other women in social settings.

My wife's pussy is off the pedestal because I have better things to spend energy on than pushing through LMR. We're having sex with enough regularity that I know it will happen eventually. And anyway, initiation met with "Maybe, OK, fine" never ends as well as when it's met with "Fuck yeah!"

Pussy in general could still be on the pedestal but in my recent social interactions with women (currently on Dread Level 6), I've been focusing more on my own enjoyment of the Game than getting sex. So I don't actually think about it that much.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (9 children) | Copy

Virgin hooked up with chick who never gave BJ's, married her anyway. Sex trickled and he wasn't happy, but they had kids anyway. He went from drinking too much pop to drinking too much beer. He's an unattractive fat fuck with no game and a good job. Now he read the sidebar books, seems to understand the sidebar content, and is going to give us a wall of text MAP in an upcoming installment that desperately needs a table of contents and hyperlinks.
Congratulations, I guess.
I should have stopped at paragraph 2, when you said this:

I can’t shake the feeling that I’m seeking validation by listing my progress

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Spark notes version lol

[–]2gunsgetsome[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Precisely. Except I picked through my puke to look for clues as to WTF I ate that made me sick in the first place. (Doesn't everyone examine their puke...?)

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I agree with Jack - you're probably going to be fine.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Did redpillthrowaway1337 hit up a time machine?

Saving the best, version 2

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

really? there was that much content? i skipped the whole thing b/c i thought it was filled with trite and useless bullshit. how much of that do you think was necessary and key substance 2%? 5%? it's a lot easier to spew pages of bullshit than a concise, condensed paragraph. the ability to do the latter is a sign of expertise. (WHATUP j10!) an individual should be an expert in his own existence, psychoanalyzing someone else's bullshit can be distilled into nuance and complexities - if someone else is going to be too fucking lazy to introspect, someone's gotta spell it out piece by piece for them (this is what J10 actually does).

it's mostly a formatting issue though - needs headers to augment keypoints and make sections bite sized. crazy long post. hindsight's 20/20. sad oft repeated story.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Same, if I get quiet time, I may check it out, though I have a new scott adams book.

glad to hear it's not a giant hamster

[–]jacktenofheartsRed Beret1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

I did think there was an interesting thought about his caveats about validation versus calibration. You shouldn't do things out of the expectation that your wife will fuck you. But if you're doing things and your wife fucks you more often, very possible that there's a correlation worth considering. This is a nuance that constantly goes overlooked by MRP, in my opinion.

Otherwise, pretty much your standard story of a guy who surrenders boundaries to his wife, gets upset when she's shockingly unappreciaive, and finds solace in vices instead of rocking the boat to re-establish those boundaries. Chances are any actual "beta bucks" is capable of demonstrating executive competence and control - hence why they're paid to earn those bucks. Bringing that workplace attitude into your home will usually pay dividends. This is apparently a RED PILL LESSON. Although I'm amused that this lesson is given equal importance to women being bad at spatial estimates for physical objects.

In any event, I predict OP will turn things around pretty quickly. Until he posts here whining that his wife fucks him more often, but she's still acting 'unfeminine,' even though he keeps flirting with his band groupies in front of her.

[–]2gunsgetsome[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Calibration and correlating is exactly what I was trying to describe in my caveat. I'm going to steal your words for my repost in MRP, so thanks!

I actually have a journal entry that I'm converting to a post about turning my career attitude toward my marriage as a way to kill my oneitis.

Spoiler for my MAP report: Things are turning around, pretty much exactly as you've predicted, minus the wife seeing the groupies.

Ultimately I don't control the actions or choices of anyone but myself. If my wife decides not to adjust her femininity, that's on her. If I decide that's a trait I require regardless of other value she might bring, I'll walk. If I'm willing to overlook a tomboy dress code because she's a kick-ass FO, then I'll stay.

The Family Alpha frequently says the reflection your woman shows of you is 6 months in the past. I'll have to have enough patience to let my timeline play out.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

validation versus calibration

I agree, and that's how I see several aspects of my wife's behavior, but that may just be my hamster talking.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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