Feminists are ugly. - I can’t think of any men my age or younger who don’t know how to cook [or] don’t enjoy cooking. This is in stark contrast to the women of the same generations, who (typically) view cooking as an indignity.

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Title Feminists are ugly. - I can’t think of any men my age or younger who don’t know how to cook [or] don’t enjoy cooking. This is in stark contrast to the women of the same generations, who (typically) view cooking as an indignity.
Author redpillschool
Upvotes 467
Comments 121
Date 29 January 2019 03:19 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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Link https://theredarchive.com/post/218319
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[–]Modredpillschool[S,M] [score hidden] stickied comment (0 children) | Copy

We discussed this a few years back but I thought it was worth revisiting.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 238 points239 points  (26 children) | Copy

From Archwinger on this topic:

This article is alarmingly true in ways that nearly bring tears to my eyes.

One of my favorite hobbies is cooking. I cook a good 90% of the meals for my family. And for guests, visitors, strangers, people at work. I’m no Martha Stewart, but I’m a decent cook, and I really enjoy doing it. Not the cutting, not the standing at the stove, not dabbling in the spice rack, but just the overall act of creating food that other people enjoy. Whenever my wife is wowed by something I made, she always asks “What did you put in here?” and I always respond “Love.” She chuckles like I’m joking, then asks what I really put in there, but that was a pretty honest response. I cook with love. There’s a piece of me on each plate. There’s just something about creating an enjoyable, nourishing, and just plain tasty dish, and having other people enjoy the thing I created. To share my love in that way.

What I do today used to be what most women did all the time. Not because they were oppressed and forced to by the evil patriarchy, but because it was an admirable thing to spend the day creating something, out of love, and nourishing your family with it. To bring homemade pastries to the neighbors. To make the appetizers for your kid’s event. To invite your husband’s boss over for dinner. To share your love. Everyone’s got to eat, so the one universal way you can give your love to everyone is by feeding them.

Today, most modern women laugh and spit at the act of cooking. Or cleaning. Or folding the laundry. Or having sex with their husbands. The very notion of doing anything that serves, helps, facilitates, or gratifies another person – especially a man and especially, especially their husband--is demeaning, oppressive, and downright insulting. It’s not so much that women brag about not knowing how to cook. They brag that they don’t have to cook.

That’s really the modern woman’s ideal. The less they have to do, the more bragging rights they have among other women. The ideal situation is to marry a hot, wealthy, superman of male candidates, but not have to get a job and work, cook for the family, clean the house and do laundry, or have sex with her husband. That’s the epitome of self-worth in the most women’s eyes. I’m so hot that my husband “loves me for me”! Which is code for: I don’t have to do anything, just exist. My vagina is so valuable, just for being a vagina, that I don’t have to do anything for anybody else. Everybody does for me. I’m a princess. That is the highest epitome of female bragging rights among their peers.

Oh, but if the husband ever loses his job, doesn’t take the trash out, or leaves the toilet seat up, he’s getting divorced. A princess shouldn’t have to put up with that shit.

[–]Buchloe177 points178 points  (8 children) | Copy

My grandma was married to one man, cooked for their kids every day while he busted his ass plumbing. He drank and smoked, but she never left him and I've only ever heard her speak respectfully about him (he was a boss though). All her kids have a high sense of morality and self respect. Then she cooked for all her grandkids. Gave us all baths in the kitchen sink. She's 90 now. Has 4 kids, 7 grandkids, 9 great-grandkids so far. She has no complaints about her life. She loved her family, cared for them and fed them proper. She is a peaceful and satisfied person, and has not an ounce of shame or regret, and neither should any woman for doing what she was designed to do. That deserves respect, and any modern woman with an ounce of those qualities is like a beacon of light in this era.

[–]Dash_of_islam98 points99 points  (1 child) | Copy

She invested in her family and relationships.

It is extremely unlikely her family will abandon her in old age since she is probably really appreciated for all she has done.

That's how stable families worked in the old days

[–]LukesLikeIt11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

Everyone is just really entitled these days. We get what we don’t earn and complain if we dont. We bitch and moan at other people to make happen what we desire.

[–]riggedved9 points10 points  (2 children) | Copy

This is almost a carbon copy of my family. My grandfather didn't drink or smoke though. He's 92 and he still works 12 hours a day. I count everyday a blessing because I get to witness the sheer greatness in character that my grandparents are. They're "real." No fairness.

[–]Buchloe3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

For real. Those great depression era people are no joke, some of the finest people ever. Dude, my grandma's brothers, I got to be around all of them. Most were married until the day they died. There's still one left. He had a stroke though, they couldn't keep him off his damn tractor lol.

My dad wasn't around much except weekends (thanks mom, feminism), and both my grandpas died before I was born, but I loved being around those old dudes and feel so lucky and proud to have known people like that.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

> This is almost a carbon copy of my family.

You misspelled "most american families 50 years ago."

[–]Luckyluke234 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

fuck me man, you got to respect that. keeps the house together i say

[–]Endorsed Contributorredpillcad3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

No career and cats and boxed wine and trail of men who pumped and dumped for her!

[–]Buchloe1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Nope. But honestly, the jokes on them. At the end of that path, there's no satisfaction, nothing to show for a life well lived. But even at 90 the hamster will probably lie and tell them there was.

[–]MaxWyght28 points29 points  (7 children) | Copy

Whenever my wife is wowed by something I made, she always asks “What did you put in here?” and I always respond “Love.” She chuckles like I’m joking, then asks what I really put in there, but that was a pretty honest response. I cook with love.

So, before I actually comment on this bit, I have to preface this:
I've worked in kitchens from the time I was 19 until I was 24.
Started as a lowly sandwich maker, and moved up until I got a job as a line chef in one of Israel's top restaurants.

I learned to make just about anything, from a lowly chopped salad, all the way to those fancy cakes that look like they were made of marble.

Cooking is an art.

The best chefs are those that love their job.
Because they treat each single meal as a work of art.

As for the love thing:
When I was younger, I used to read a bunch of manga, and in one of them, the protagonist said something along the lines of:
Cooking is a way to bare your soul.
No matter how close you stick to a recipe, if your soul isn't there, the food will suck.
And if you cook for someone, it is a way of showing them your soul.

The last time I had a girl cook for me, the food was supposedly delicious, in the sense that it smelled and looked lovely, but the taste was off.
Can't really explain it unfortunately, but I'm sure you all know that flavor, where something turned bad, but is still technically edible and won't make you shit out your colon?

A week later it turned out I was cucking some poor fuck.

[–]Sonny_Luna10 points11 points  (2 children) | Copy

The best chefs are those that love their job. Because they treat each single meal as a work of art.

I feel so confused by the vibe of this sub. I disagree with the very argument of this whole thread but even this particular post makes no sense to me. I worked in restaurants for MANY years and even your experience strikes me as silly. Many of the chefs I encountered over the long years I've worked in restaurants have been surly fucks who are just paying the rent.

I'm not talking about dive bars, either.

Why does this argument against feminism need to be so self righteous and emotional? It's not enough to feel like women need to be more domestic but we need them to want to be uber passionate about it as well?

Third wave feminism is annoying and retarded, yes. But why the tendency view women so maternally, where they not only cook and clean for you but just can't fucking wait to get home to do it? It seems like mommy-issue stuff. Can't we at least cite duty as a reason?

This doesn't make much sense to me.

EDIT - I just gotta say that this:

I've worked in kitchens from the time I was 19 until I was 24.

...isn't really a whole hell of a lot of experience. Try doing it as your career for 25 years and tell me how much passion you can muster for it every single 12 hour day you work in your 70 hour workweek.

[–]MikeTyson91[🍰] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Third wave feminism is annoying and retarded, yes

That's the problem: feminism has no waves. Ever heard of a boiling frog?

[–]5Imperator_Red4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

It was always a bad idea. There are numerous economic studies that show that as soon as women gained the right to vote, government spending doubled. They can isolate the effect because many states gave women the vote before the 19th amendment passed and the result is always the same.

[–]PM_Happy_Puppy_Pics4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

A week later it turned out I was cucking some poor fuck.

Can you tell me exactly what this means? I don't know if I understand all the words here. Thank you.

[–]tempolaca18 points19 points  (0 children) | Copy

The girl he was fucking secretly had a boyfriend.

[–]Managicall0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

cucking the food is called remicrowaving over and over and over.

[–]party_dragon0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

you should post a thread about your experiences, tips & tricks of professional chefs, and maybe even some interesting/quick/complex recipes!

[–]NohoTwoPointOh6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Stickyworthy post.

[–]Luckyluke231 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

jesus. we have fallen a long way down the shit hole, haven't we?

[–]BlameitonBigDave1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

The cooking is love message is powerful and true, learning to cook was a turning point in increasing my self esteem a few years ago, as taking the time to create something from scratch took on meaning, as I was doing it purely for myself it became an act of love towards myself, indicating that I could believe that I was worthy of loving and taking time for myself.

In my experience with multiple ex-partners, this ignorance of cooking is an issue, but what I found made a massive change in their behaviour (and improved the relationship) was injecting fun into the cooking experience and doing it together. Leading, divvying up responsibilities, teasing her, calling her a waitress and messing around can turn a boring daily chore into an intimate and sexy experience (so much sexual tension when you pull her close and both start feeding each other) - I've found that some ex-partners have gone from having no interest in cooking, diet or nutrition, to actively taking the time to cook me nutritious meals and improve their health - a win win situation for everyone involved. Another thing, they all say they have never had such a good time with anyone else, just by cooking together.

What I'm saying is we have the ability to lead by example to get the behaviour we want to see, in this case with cooking and some will follow, even if feminism or society tells them the usual toxic lies - and those that don't follow can carry on into a squidgy, diabetes-riddled old age.

[–]PM_Me_OK2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Its not accurate though. Im sure there are women out there like this, but most arent that fickle and selfish/self centered. Its a big exaggeration.

[–]red_philosopher0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It smacks a little bit of anger phase AWALT, but it's certainly true to an extent.

[–]jazerac-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

I don't know if its just my strong male frame, but I never experience this "me me me" with women, because they know and fear what I am capable of. Don't put pussy on a pedestal, and its amazing what they will do for your "love."

[–]BewareTheOldMan0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Don't put pussy on a pedestal

I concur and support this message.

[–]hidemyface1234-4 points-3 points  (0 children) | Copy

To invite your husband’s boss over for dinner.

That's not love. That's lust. (Hypergamy).

Otherwise I agree.

[–]dingleburry_joe80 points81 points  (8 children) | Copy

In my experience, I never ltr someone who doesn't know how to cook for this reason. I made this mistake once but not again. Most guys I know like to cook, but many girls I know today can't cook for shit. Many guys who have standards want women who cook. So women who do are of higher value than those don't. Just another filter for me to vet the ladies.

[–]Endorsed ContributorUEMcGill44 points45 points  (4 children) | Copy

Or at least willing to learn. An easy vetting process is to just schedule a meal date and make them your helper. You can test her for submission, eagerness and ability to follow orders.

[–]Sonny_Luna19 points20 points  (0 children) | Copy

Or at least willing to learn.

Yes! That is more than sufficient.

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's best to start with a woman from a culture that breeds that mindset. Where her philosophy is to serve the man she likes. It can't be substituted. The feeling in the air is different. It's great.

[–]DickMystery0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Lol, whenever I try that I get irritated because they are either in the way or don't do stuff the way I want them to be done (when I'm cooking) so I'll either make them sit down on my couch (or somewhere I won't walk into them) and occasionally ask whenever I need an extra pair of hands. My place, my way, unless they have another just as or more efficient way. Guess working in a restaurant kitchen from 16-18 has done that to me.

A plate once invited me to bake and eat some pancakes (was a joke running between us). Eventually I just took over and taught her some more efficient things, because she'd get distracted a lot.

[–]Buchloe15 points16 points  (1 child) | Copy

For real, if she can't or doesn't enjoy cooking, or won't cook together with me, that's a huge red flag that she has little to contribute in the long term. One of the best things to do as a date is cook with a chick. And if she's game, she's often worth getting to know, and cooking together is a good way to get to know someone.

[–]stevecapw7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

+1. This has become a go-to move for vetting women.

[–]Ihatemoi1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

My thoughts exactly. At the beginning when I was a blue pilled beta bucks, I did not have standards for a woman, I used to say "If she does not know how to cook, that is okay, what matter are the feelings and I can cook <3". Not anymore, I want my lady to be able to cook, not only that but she has to cook for me. I also want boobs, boobs are important.

[–]AlexDr0ps34 points35 points  (1 child) | Copy

Cooking should be a fundamental skill for everybody. If you can't cook you're probably showing your inadequacy in other ways.

I don't exclusively make my woman cook, either. We take turns or cook together. Its pretty much the only way to live healthy and not break the bank

[–]Sonny_Luna-5 points-4 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is a much more measured stance on the matter than OP's. Cool. You guys both cook for each other. That's fucking awesome. It'd also be awesome if she was a great cook and handled it most of the time. But is it necessary to desire a woman that relishes the idea of cooking every single meal, all the time?

[–]Mgtow_troaway34 points35 points  (3 children) | Copy

Isn't cooking supposed to be one of those skills you learn to keep yourself alive?

[–]UshankaDalek33 points34 points  (2 children) | Copy

Not when you can just defrost chicken nuggests or swipe on your phone until somebody buys you a meal.

[–]alittletoosmooth2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

I doubt they can handle the chicken nuggets. Let's be realistic.

[–]UshankaDalek5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

The chicken nuggets are anecdotal.

[–][deleted] 79 points80 points  (8 children) | Copy

I let Russian Lesbians couchsurf at my place for 2 days. I thought, "Cool, Russian Lesbians!" They were disgusting. They had a horrible smell and I had to practically throw out the sheets when they left. They also left a surprise in the toilet for me before moving out. I will never let lesbians I don't know stay at my place again ever.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 103 points104 points  (6 children) | Copy

As somebody who worked retail in highschool, the women's bathrooms were always far worse than the men's.

Women are fucking nasty when they're not trying to impress men.

[–]FalconWrite38 points39 points  (4 children) | Copy

I didn't fully stop pedestalizing women until a plate left my spot with the unflushed toilet's seat up. These bitches triflin

[–]Endorsed Contributorex_addict_bro30 points31 points  (3 children) | Copy

So what you suggest is... they do poop? Like, for real?

[–]CensorThis11134 points35 points  (0 children) | Copy

Or shotgun-blast blood and other human cells into nooks and cracks that will leave you wondering for weeks.

Some girls are absolutely disgusting when it comes to their periods. Although I don't know why periods are so special. Most humans I know wouldn't drip shit on the floor and neglect to clean it up, but the amount of bathroom-blood I've cleaned in my life has left me with true contempt.

[–]FalconWrite16 points17 points  (0 children) | Copy

And if you stare long into an abyss, you may see a massive fucking shit being taken in your house

[–]Menchstick5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

I poop as well but I can't remember ever forgetting to flush the toilet. I mean, the smell is kind of hard not to notice.

[–]AlphaGinger660 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I used to have a job cleaning a bar in the mornings. I'd sweep and mop the whole place and clean the bathrooms. When I started the job I thought the mens room would be worse to clean on average. Couldn't be further from the truth. The women's room always was filthy. Toilet paper everywhere was standard. I found thongs on the floor multiple times, broken glasses, used tampons not in the garbage (only once). 9/10 days the women's room was worse to clean.

[–]AllahHatesFags19 points20 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is one of those moments where you realize that real life is nothing like porn.

[–]Bilskee1108 points109 points  (5 children) | Copy

Its men's fault for letting them get away with it. Stop giving dick to girls that cant read 4 steps and make hamburger helper for fuck sake.

[–]Casanova-Quinn15 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy

Exactly. Women will be as lazy as men let them. Men need to start dreading/dumping women for being useless outside the bedroom. That’s the only way to correct this behavior.

[–]5Imperator_Red27 points28 points  (1 child) | Copy

Give them your dick, just not your commitment.

[–]FalconWrite28 points29 points  (0 children) | Copy

True fucking shit. At this point I view cooking as a goddamn sacred ancient martial art. Let the kitchen be the dojo, cook up some full flavored front kicks to the fucking pussy

[–]Nushuktan-Tulyiagby27 points28 points  (11 children) | Copy

Not to mention girls bedrooms. I've only been to one chicks house where there wasn't a huge stack of dirty laundry in the corner.

[–]tempolaca1 point2 points  (10 children) | Copy

I have a huge stack of dirty laundry. How the fuck do you avoid that? I'm thinking about buying a huge box so I put the laundry inside.

[–]Xanforth23 points24 points  (6 children) | Copy

By washing the dirty laundry...

[–]rogicar2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

Ok but at some point, after not too long, that dirty laundry becomes a stack unless you just throw your dirty clothes everywhere.

[–]Nushuktan-Tulyiagby8 points9 points  (2 children) | Copy

Well typically you put your dirty clothes in a laundry basket and then you do laundry on a regular basis. Not to sound like a dick but this is pretty common sense.

[–]rogicar4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

Yes. Which was my point exactly. You stack it inside your hamper.

[–]Nushuktan-Tulyiagby3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Oh I thought you were implying that the stack of dirty clothes on the floor is necessary. I got you.

[–]tempolaca0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

You make it sound like it is fucking easy

[–]FalconWrite3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

If you have access to a washing machine and dryer, doing laundry has the same difficulty level as using a damn microwave

[–]Jejmaze15 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy

  1. Get a box to put your laundry in

  2. Regularly empty that box by washing your fucking laundry

[–]UshankaDalek13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy

There is a such thing as a laundry hamper.

[–]CainPrice29 points30 points  (1 child) | Copy

Knowing how to turn groceries into dinner is part of being a grown up. Women who can't cook are still children.

[–]JohnIan1016 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

This and they will hemorrhage money for not doing basic things themselves; cooking and cleaning clothes come to mind.

[–]Sara_Solo33 points34 points  (2 children) | Copy

They worship eating out every night and the ones that do learn to cook over-do it like that girl who sterilized herself so that she could help the environment and make fancy vegan dishes every night.

[–]hidemyface123411 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

Why not? If you can use someone for free food and don't have to fuck em, why buy the bull when his pasture is free?

Stop buying shit for women you're not fucking.

[–]5Imperator_Red20 points21 points  (0 children) | Copy

Or getting absurdly cheap delivery brought to their door by one of the unskilled immigrant masses that they allowed to overrun our countries who are unqualified for any other type of labor.

[–]Hjalmbere39 points40 points  (3 children) | Copy

OP is on to something. I always found it a big turn off when women announce their lack of cooking skills on dating sites. It’s like they’re saying ”I’m not capable of taking care of my man, but I’m happy to take your resources.” I think it’s a sign of the times.

[–]AllahHatesFags24 points25 points  (2 children) | Copy

It goes back to what Rollo calls "value added". Women used to understand that they had to do housework if they didn't have a job and wanted to be a homemaker. Now they don't even want to do that, because their vagina entitles them to a lifetime of leisure. When they are young and hot they can get away with it; when they hit the wall their lack of domestic skills and other value added things catches up with them.

[–]stevecapw12 points13 points  (1 child) | Copy

Ugh, I've had the displeasure of watching two friends' marriages that are just like this. "Stay at home moms" that don't do any Mom tasks.

[–]Sonny_Luna6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Your two friends were fucking up bigtime, then. How horrific their approach to relationships must have been that these women couldn't even stand making a few meals for them?

[–]Galbert12317 points18 points  (0 children) | Copy

People who think that certain tasks are beneath them should be ashamed. You do what needs to get done. Learn as much as you can. Be self reliant.

There was a female director in my old company... cant type to save her life. I remember it being brought up once, she said something like that was a secretary skill... right... as shes single fingering emails out to the finance team... taking an hour on a 5 minute email.

Nothing is beneath you. And do not disrespect people just because they are lower than you on the food chain. We're all just trying to climb.

[–]Andrzej117 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

In this day and age, things like cooking, cleaning, laundry and hygiene are consider tyranny and oppression especially if a woman have to do it for a men. You want woman to clean and cook for a men especially if the man/husband bought the house the woman is living in ? How dare you ask her to do such a degrading task! Men needs to do it or get a cleaning service or a cook as she has no time to do such tasks. She needs to be taken out and fed the most tastiest foods. Well in real life these women who cannot cook or clean will live off of fast food and get fat and since they cannot clen they will live in their own filthy rooms/apartments where clothes and shoes are piling up everywhere and the kitchen and bathroom are filthy. This reminds me of a joke. A girl brings a guy over to her place and they are getting busy and in the heat of the moment girl says " Say something dirty and nasty to me" so the guys stars yelling " Oh the kitchen and the kitchen floor and the bathroom, oh the bathroom and the bathtub"

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[–]tempolaca4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Women will never compete with men in absolutely anything. They are biologically predisposed to not get away from the norm. Women are by their own design, mediocre. It's good that they are that way. We men, are extreme. There are extreme good men, but also men that extremely sucks at anything. It's statistics.

[–]boy_named_su17 points18 points  (11 children) | Copy

Feminism was started by Jewish lesbian Marxists. Seriously, look at the biographies of their leaders

As lesbians, they resented having to be married to men and do their bidding (you were looked down upon for not being married back in the day).

As Marxists, they wanted outcome equality

As Jews, they were smart and educated enough to get their message across

[–]IRunYourRiver10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

This may be true, but it serves no one to remain in this mindset. All throughout nature the battle of the sexes exists and serves to ensure that the best alleles are passed along. Feminism is simply a stage in the human battle of the sexes. It isn't anyone's "fault". It just is. Your responsibility is to learn how to respond to it. Good news is that you're in about the best subreddit for that. Nevertheless, it's hard work either way.

[–]geo_gan1 point2 points  (8 children) | Copy

What does “outcome equality” mean?

[–]5Imperator_Red3 points4 points  (4 children) | Copy

Traditionally in America we have striven for equality of opportunity, meaning that everyone gets a chance and the most meritorious/hard working can rise. As socialists have gained power, they have convinced people that unequal outcomes are face value evidence that there must be hidden discrimination and we must correct it with regulation, because according to their ideology all groups are biologically and culturally equal. Hence they strive for outcome equality - they will never be happy until all groups are equally well off because they use circular reasoning that assumes differences in outcome = discrimination.

[–]geo_gan2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

Oh right. That’s crazy. So they want some asshole that never worked a day in his life to have the same quality of life as someone who worked 9-5 for 20 years? To be honest in my country with the socialism shit that has taken over, the amount of people who do not work and have all sorts of excuses for it (disability, children etc) who are living off the state and get monthly “rent allowance” which is more than my monthly mortgage and live in exactly the same house I do, is sickening to me. Literally half the country is working paying huge taxes (over 53% of every Euro earned over a measly €27k) and this money is used to support the other half who just take, take, take from the system.

[–]zestytacoz0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

from each according to their ability, to each according to their need

Granted in real life it becomes

from each according to their ability, to the state and the heads of the Party

[–]geo_gan0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

The problem is in my country the useless fucks are very good at making sure they have a big need to get what they want (usually a house). I know this might be alien to USA readers as their country is still very capitalist and doesn’t put up with this shit, but in cucked, feminist controlled, socialist European country I live in this is how it works.

[–]zestytacoz1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I understand that's how it works. It gives an incentive to be as useless as possible, since being useless is the best way to get more resources with as little effort as possible. I can only hope that there's enough pushback against that here and that the hype of the Democrats' tax and give away is overblown.

[–]playful_pachyderm1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

I'm an engineer; you work at fast food; we make the same (equal) amount of money (outcome).

I'm an entrepreneur who risks his livelihood; you're an employee who collects a salary; we have equal say in the operation of the new, now successful, company.

I work 9 hour days; you work 7 hours in the same job and take vacations every 3 weeks and a year off after having a baby; we have the same average income.

[–]geo_gan1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

What? I don’t really get your examples there or what you are saying

[–]playful_pachyderm0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I'm not sure what you don't get, it's not very complicated. Normal people support a principle of "equality of treatment", in which the same rules apply to everyone. Marxists support a principle of "equality of outcome", by which people get the same result regardless of their situation, choices or actions.

[–]OceanPoultry4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

Plenty of men and women hate cooking. Some ppl are fucking lazy. Like me.

[–]Sonny_Luna3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Being lazy aint a good thing but not loving cooking isn't a character flaw in my opinion.

[–]oooKenshiooo3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

My parents grew up in socialist Germany. This led to a few quirks in the traditional genderroles in my area. Big family dinners were mostly prepared by the FATHER of the family. I never realized how odd that was, till I lived in the west for a while.

[–]WhaleSharkPark10 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy

I just got married and cooking has been something I worry about constantly. Moving to college taught me how to cook the basics and my boyfriend taught me what a world of difference seasoning rice could make. But then we were engaged and I realized that as someone who plans to be a work from home mom, I would be cooking dinners for my spice loving and flavor obsessed man for the rest of my life. Even then I had only two extremely healthy and boring dinners I alternated. And I was determined to keep cooking like that, he would just have to adapt. Being married changed that. Our very first dinner was bland spagetti and meatballs and he was so sweet about my terrible efforts that I cried. I had been terrified he would hate it. All I want now when I cook is for him to love it. That has led to a massive learning curve. I am slowly teaching myself better and more creative cooking because it is something that makes him happy, and demanding he be happy with whatever I make is grossly unfair. He has also been good to me, praising what I make and gently suggesting dinners he would like.

Women: So even if we start with no cooking ability, its the effort and selflessness (as well as encouraging and patient husbands) that distinguish nasty women from loving wives.

Men: Look for a woman who, even in her shortcomings, tries out of love.

[–]Speculum0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I would suggest French Cooking Academy on YouTube. It teaches the most basic techniques and recipes.

[–]surfsusa2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I have an acquaintance part of a group of people we hang out with a few times a year.We host the group 2-3 times a year and we meet up for movies to see bands or parties. He is king of the BetaBux. He was and is a success in business. Not a bad looking guy in decent shape. He married this girl, She was nice looking I would say an 8 on a good day. She told him right from the beginning that she would never cook or have kids. They go out to eat most nights or eat the left overs from the previous nights outing or eat over at friend's homes including ours. They have been married for many years. She is a Feminist but not one that is always in your face. They only hosted us 1 time (at a restaurant) 10 years. My woman cooks but so do I. I cook most dishes better than my woman. But my woman has done more than her share of cooking and always made sure that I had a good meal when I got home from work , even if she had a rough day her self. I and a couple of other guys cook for our parties . No we don't Bar B Que. I am talking about Gumbo, Red Beans and rice, Lasagna and Baked or Broiled chicken. His wife is so amazed at all the things I can do. Most of our group events are special occasions and one time I showed up with a pretty cool shirt to mark the occasion. I made it it. When they asked where I got it, I told them I made it. His wife was incredulous that I made that. I bust her chops all the time and let her know that I live in a Man's world and she is lucky to be in it.

[–]masszealots2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

They complain about body standards, cooking, cleaning, going to work, wearing makeup, grooming. All thing MOST men do (besides makeup). Seriously most guys I know diet and go to the gym, while women struggle to not be fat.

[–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

This reminds me of my early 20s, when a girl who was crushing hard on me invited me over for dinner.

This really caught me on the wrong foot because for my entire life the message that women owe men nothing and shouldn't be expected to do anything had been drilled into my skull so deeply (interestingly, that worked only one way - when men did something for women, this was awesome, great, totally okay and showed that he wasn't some vile patriarch) that I ultimately started to expect the opposite - i.e. women doing anything but "serving" men.

[–]5Imperator_Red1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Rules are made for Billy and broken for Chad. I guess cooking is no different than sex.

[–]U-941 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's funny, when girls I've been seeing have offered to cook for, my first thought was always "Ah, shit she really likes me - gotta parachute outta this one somehow."

[–]Avertus1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is the result of one of feminism's tenets, that it's degrading for women to stick into the traditional housewife/homemaker mother role. Notice how stories of "female empowerment" figures mention stuff about family and friends supposedly shaming them from taking up further education or careers and telling them to just be content as a housewife--which is nothing but a jab at the evil patriarchy attempting to suppress their skill potentials.

A man can afford to be incapable of (or in the least terrible at) cooking, but not a woman esp. in an LTR role.

[–]RealisticKiwi1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I don't understand. I hate cooking and don't really know any men who loves it. My ex gfs usually cooked nice meals for me. My current does not really know it but I expect her to cook something always.

[–]jimmyb2070 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The feminist mindset alone makes them Butt Ugly and repulsive. They have become deranged in the way they attack men simply for being a man the way god intended man to be...physically and mentally strong, forward thinking and organized and presenting natural behaviors of being male. It's getting to the point where they despise anything that has a penis.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Cooking is fun and you get to enjoy the end result.

[–]Sonny_Luna0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

This argument seems disingenuous in nature. Every single man your age or younger enjoys cooking? That sounds like absolute horseshit. For me, it's the exact opposite. I'm probably a bit older than you but I can't really think of any men I know who love cooking. I mean, there are probably a few I don't realize, but I believe your argument is completely fabricated. And that's such a weird thing to do because feminism IS stupid. At least the current incarnation of it.

I also can't think of any women I know who consider cooking an indignity.

But why do you feel compelled to approach the argument disingenuously? Can't you just be honest about your criticism?

[–]jimmyb2071 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I like to cook. Put me in front of a grill, I love to cook.

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[–]OgreAllOver0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Cooking is awesome. Im not tge best, but I like to experiment

[–]NextBad0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Women cooking or not cooking is the least of our worries and makes up seem misogynistic unnecessarily, this trad-con narrative red pill is now pushing is definitely a shift.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Why is it misogynistic to desire a woman who knows how to cook?

Or you been drinking the kool-aid so long that expecting any adult behavior in women is misogynistic?

[–]RedPill115-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Feminism: Oppression: being in the hitchen making a sandwhich for your husband!

Feminism: Female empowerment: working for a corporation in their kitchen making sandwhiches for hundreds of people.

Now...who do you think funds feminism?

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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