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[25m] my girlfriend[24f] told me she had only slept with 3 guys, her best friend[24f] blurted out that they slept with a guy every city in Europe they visited

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Title [25m] my girlfriend[24f] told me she had only slept with 3 guys, her best friend[24f] blurted out that they slept with a guy every city in Europe they visited
Author redpillschool
Upvotes 444
Comments 180
Date 07 February 2019 08:45 PM UTC (1 year ago)
Subreddit TheRedPill
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/218379
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/ao8dcu/25m_my_girlfriend24f_told_me_she_had_only_slept/
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[–]Modredpillschool[S] 292 points293 points  (24 children) | Copy

An eye-opening moment for men. She made him pay full price (waiting and all) for the same thing she gave out free to random strangers on her trip abroad.

Sidenote: Every time a woman wants to take a road trip or travel abroad with her girlfriend(s), it's for strange dick. Especially if it's for spring break.

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[–]Modredpillschool[S] 126 points127 points  (5 children) | Copy

If she's a plate? Just make sure you wrap it up and keep on plowing.

If it's a LTR, well shame on you for not properly vetting, but silent-downgrade to plate is in order.

[–]destraht71 points72 points  (1 child) | Copy

sudo gf-admin downgrade --level=plate --quiet --yes --force > /dev/null

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sudo gf-admin install --level=plate --sources="/day/game/*;/night/game/*;/social/tinder/*"

[–]PM_ME_NUDES_PLEEZ5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

Can anyone link me to a resource for properly vetting ltr?

[–]ImHerWonderland1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Read the sidebar and read top posts of all time, your answer is there.

[–]pm_me_tangibles38 points39 points  (5 children) | Copy

Sometimes, i just call them on it with a lighthearted idgaf attitude. usually it works out well and they open up after the initial mock shock. some even respect me for not buying their bs but not judging them on it either.

could be a risky move, but who cares either way?

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[–]MilkMoney11135 points36 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah just gotta accept it. It’s in their biological nature. They don’t/can’t play by the same rules as men do so they have to resort to other methods. It is what it is

[–]pm_me_tangibles2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I don't care about the count itself but the act of lying.

Exactly. They should know that - when with a red pilled guy - there's no point lying. We ain't gonna judge them and their slutty ways are not hidden like when they're with blue pill guys. So LTR would never be an option.

But I guess hope reigns supreme and they hope they can still reign in a RP guy by maintaining the lie.

Bless them.

How can you like someone like that?

Take from each person what they can give, and either forgive them their failures, or move on. If she's got a tight puss, nice rack and gives good head - who cares that she needs to lie to maintain her belief that her life is worth living?

Bless her. Just don't take her seriously, but I'm sure you already know that.

[–]noct3rn4l16 points17 points  (1 child) | Copy

Agreed. I usually go with the idgaf playful mock when they hit me with some low ass bodycount. Like bih, id rather you be offended by my opinion than you think im dumb enough to believe that shit.

[–]pm_me_tangibles2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

my view is who cares as long as they put out and are pleasant enough in between the blatant lies.

[–]PM_Happy_Puppy_Pics15 points16 points  (3 children) | Copy

If a girl volunteers a number multiply it by 3.

[–]Gr0o0vy15 points16 points  (2 children) | Copy

2 or more visible tattoos or piercings by 5 (or depending on the piercing locations by 10) but once you see that it is pretty clear who are you dealing with

[–]Zech4riah6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Your more specific multipliers can be sadly close to the truth... :E

[–]sorry_mommy0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

A girl who is that open with her sexuality generally won't lie about her N count - she either won't volunteer it, or will tell you she can't remember/can't count that high. For this type of chick who is open and unashamed about her sexual nature, just wear a condom.

[–]sorry_mommy2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Simple TRP rule of thumb is: always take her N count and multiply by 3. If she says she's a virgin just add 3.

[–]AllThatJack33 points34 points  (1 child) | Copy

Agreed and I have to say there’s a ton of truth on this site. I’d enjoyed it immensely. Also, as an old school guy (53) who’s learned a few realities on my own over the years (experience is golden) whenever this subject comes up with women, the worst thing a man can do is put her ON THE PEDESTAL. Now, by fawning over her you virtually created the LIE. I’ve learned early on how to get a woman to TALK OPENLY IN BED and admit right out of the gate reality. SHE IS A SEXUAL CREATURE LIKE YOU. Truly even women in my age group will spew bullshit if you allow it. I just bust out laughing and kill the conversation immediately with, “I’m sure you’ve been just as much of a whore as me for many of the same reasons and a few different ones, no need to bullshit me, I personally stopped counting long ago. If you want their sexuality, then take it, twosomes, threesomes, and whatever fucked up shit you can imagine. I’ve brought it up, laughed and admitted my foibles immediately, why? Why the hell not. I’m a grown ass man I aint playing that fucking game.

Anyway, I find that attitude works well every damn time.

I just don’t agree with this whole fucking conversation. Get her in bed, satisfy her, and start digging if you want her history. If you allow her comfort enough to spew she will. If it’s fun, and your looking to dig into what fetishes she likes, what floats her boat, etc... then go for it but be man enough to know you ain’t fucking Magellan or Marco Polo because in today’s world, SHE”S HAD DICK.

Whole subject pissing me off. She made him pay the price because he didn’t FUCK HER ON THE FIRST DATE and HE LIKED HER.

It’s a crazy nutty ass world we live in. If ya gonna play the game play it well or just don’t.

[–]dulkemaru5119 points20 points  (0 children) | Copy

know you ain’t fucking Magellan

If only Columbus had known that his "virgin" America had shiploads of Viking raiders before him. I'd rather know than die like him -- blue.

[–]Zech4riah9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy

And especially when they travel abroad alone. It's a dead giveaway - even more than with their girlfriend(s).

Usually they verbalize it like "Yeah, it's so nice to just go on your own schedule and meet new people". Translation: "I can hop on any dick I want and when I want without nobody knowing it back home".

[–]Stron2g1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

The cock carousel in its purest form LOL

[–]omega_dawg9320 points21 points  (0 children) | Copy

she wasn't lying... bc context is important.

3 guys... meaning today, this week, or this month?

frame the question correctly. lmao

[–]bjcm5891103 points104 points  (6 children) | Copy

If a girl you're considering a LTR with has gone across Asia or Europe to "find herself", what it really means is she went looking to find exotic or fellow tourist dick. Major red flag.

[–]dingleburry_joe29 points30 points  (5 children) | Copy

For real I cringe when guys tell me their girlfriends when on the trip to some place with their hoes they call “friends.”

[–]DntPnicIGotThis44 points45 points  (4 children) | Copy

so my ex-gf really really wanted to on a trip to New Orleans with her two best friends. One day I got a random phone call from her while she was on her way to work, but it turns out she just butt dialed me somehow adding me to her group conversation . I stayed on the line and long story short she started to talk about how when they got down to NO how she planned to cheat and how they all should get dicked down because it's not like they'd ever see any of those guys again.

Although I completely swallowed the pill, I can't lie it was heartbreaking none the less. But it got worse. So I break up with her and start to clear her stuff off my computer and I get into her Google photos. Lo and behold she was dicking down her ex and taking pictures/videos of it.

I crossed checked the days with our text messages and discovered patterns. The most obvious of which were that she was banging old dude on days when she was seemingly pissed with me for no reason or when I was out of town for extended periods of time.

If you don't accept anything the red pill teaches, accept that all women are like that and know that if your little snowflake is pretty, she's probably still going around the block.

[–]jonpe8726 points27 points  (1 child) | Copy

You should make a post about this history, pretty sure you have a lot of information to share

[–]2awalt_cupcake8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

I second this. These patterns are very important.

[–]ChrimsonChin9883 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Regarding the 'patterns/signs'; Probably more like she was angry with herself for cheating and the guilt feelings that come with it... Then she makes up silly reason to be angry with you so it justifies the cheating. Classic defense mechanism.

I do agree with comments below that it could be informative to make a short post about this if you want to...

[–]magx012 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

the guilt feelings

Oh, you haven't been here long enough I see.

[–]Cum_Victor93 points94 points  (0 children) | Copy

Women truly believe that having sex with a dude doesn't count as sex. They actually and fully convince themselves of this.

Never believe what she says.

[–]TRP VanguardWhisper159 points160 points  (24 children) | Copy

Any man who is in the know would have expected this the moment he learned about the trip.

There are girls who don't fuck every Juan, Franz, and Jànos they encounter... but those girls don't go on backpacking trips through Europe.

If she travels for pleasure (not business) without her parents, husband, or boyfriend, she will ride strange dick. Period.

There is a reason Victorians considered it scandalous for a woman to travel alone... and it's not just because they were prudes. They understood what really happens.

[–]BoobyLover6942022 points23 points  (21 children) | Copy

ahhh man, my girlfriend is going to Europe for like 10 days at the beginning of March. I didn't really give AF since I have a fuckton of assignments due that month, and this semester really counts since I'll be applying to law school next year...

you saying I should break up with her? I know she's going to be in like Amsterdam with her brother for a few days, then she's going to Paris alone for 5 days.

I really wasn't thinking much of it before, but now I'm like, fuck, what do I do? We've been together 2 years as of March as well, think I should just break up with her? The problem is she has a very nice ass and likes girls, so the sex is awesome and since I work 5 days a week as well as go to school full time, I literally have no time to troll tinder/pof/bumble/hinge since I dont finish work till 2 am usually (I work at a sports bar in the suburbs, so very rarely any hot single chicks come in).

ahhh fuck I knew there was a reason I stayed away from this sub for a while.... and I also knew there was a reason I came back to it. I like to think she wont cheat on me, but she's alone in Paris for 5 days...

[–]TRP VanguardWhisper16 points17 points  (1 child) | Copy

The problem is she has a very nice ass and likes girls, so the sex is awesome

This is a bad reason to promote to LTR.

When you promote a girl to lock down a steady source of good sex, you are acting and making decisions based on scarcity mentality. Your best course of action is to behave as if you can get a girl for sex anytime you want one... regardless of whether or not this is true.

I did not promote FunSize to the point where she is actually living in my house because she is good at sucking cock. I did so because she is always well-behaved and obedient, whatever I do is more fun with her along than with her absent, and whenever I have a problem, she is sometimes part of the solution, but never part of the problem.

This girl might or might not cheat on you, but your problem is bigger. A girl who is just good at sex, is a sex girl. To be a relationship girl, a girl has make you want the relationship bits. She has to enhance your life. Otherwise, you are giving away your value too cheaply.

Just as girls are not vending machines into which you insert attention coins until sex falls out, you are not a slot machine where girls pull the sex handle until they win the relationship prize. You have to get sex by making girls want sex, and girls have to get relationships by making you want one.

What you need to do is read the Bitch Management Hierarchy again... and consider long and hard whether this girl has really earned her way to LTR. Personally, I can't say, because I haven't observed her, but the fact that she would even consider traveling alone when she is in a relationship makes me suspicious. This is not the behaviour of a girl who has found the man she wants to stay with for life, and is "all-in" on trying to make him stay.

A relationship-worthy girl might have a non-zero n-count (the modern world being what it is), but each "1" in that count should have been someone she planned on being the very last "1" she would add. If she is not striving for this, she's a plate or an FWB at most.

[–]Shtafoo78 points79 points  (4 children) | Copy

Chill dude, it’s no fucking guarantee she’s going to cheat on you. Most people here are damaged, and are blaming their self esteem issues on outside factors like the girls they date. Haunting ghosts by living HER past. Not realizing playing video games all day isn’t exactly getting her wet. You are busy, you spend a lot of time improving your life. Sounds like you’re on a good path.

Let her go on the trip, give her one last good fuck before she goes and remember she’s not yours. Keep that in the back of your head at all times and it’ll be alright.

Reading this sub is good for self improvement, but please always question reality yourself. No one knows shit, and in knowing that you might find inner peace some day.

[–]friendandadvisor4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

We can't tell you to dump her, but, the combined wisdom is that women on Le Gran Tour go to meet Monsieur Penis.

Amsterdam?? Paris?? Hmmm...let me guess...what churches are in those cities....

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Good perspective. Especially the 'shes not yours' component.

[–]Ayrab4Trump2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Or you know— maybe she will cheat on him.

Who knows

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Amen brother! I remember the dilution and loserification of this sub hit a peak when a post saying "playing video games all day and staying inside is not conducive to moving forward" and there was an avalanche of comments saying "no no, video gaming is alpha, it gives you problem solving skills" "it's redpill to video game you are determined".

Like theres a lot of truths here but always foster independence and realise you need to be realising yourself not just accepting everything, there are a lot of losers here just sitting here enjoying the woman bashing posts but never moving forward. The idea that theres hordes of people defending video gaming for hours on end and "leveling" characters to level 70 repeatedly on world of war craft, something that takes hours, day, weeks, even months of real life hours tells you enough. Just imagine if those hours were spent in the gym or learning a skill...

I really agree with your comment!

[–]TimGuoRen21 points22 points  (5 children) | Copy

I am a married man and I have some female friends.

No, they are usually not traveling together to look for sex. The only ones who have a lot of sexual partners while traveling also have a lot of sexual partners at home.

I guarantee you that OP's gf did not just have sex with 3 dudes previous to her trip to Europe. She was in three relationships. This is what she meant. She slept around in the US just as she did in Europe.

A girl who does not sleep around will not magically change behavior because she is in Europe.

[–]aDrunkenWhaler19 points20 points  (2 children) | Copy

Whores will be whores, but social backlash is what keeps the rest of the women in check. No social backlash = no reason to act the same way as at home. I've traveled a lot, and enough to never trust a girl that traveled without a boyfriend.

[–]TimGuoRen6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

It is easy enough to have sex in your home state without social backlash.

[–]aDrunkenWhaler2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Nevertheless, there is a risk to it, and many girls will think twice. There is no risk while travelling, at least in their limited minds.

[–]askmrcia-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

No, they are usually not traveling together to look for sex. The only ones who have a lot of sexual partners while traveling also have a lot of sexual partners at home.

This!!!! You hit the nail on the head and I just commented something similar. You will know which girls sleep around when traveling and you will know which ones don't.

[–]zue34 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Keep telling yourself that. I'm sure the op in the relationship advice sub thought the same till reality slapped him in the face.

[–]askmrcia6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Don't worry too much about it. I've been on study abroad trips with women on two separate occasions.

You had your women that were actively looking to drink, party and whore around and you had your women who literally just went sight seeing was in bed by 10am.

When I went to Europe there was like 4 girls (two which had boyfriends) that truly did stay out of trouble. Honestly when I first met them before the trip, I knew they weren't going to be out partying with us crazy people. They came out with us one night and didn't do anything. The entire trip they were in their rooms by 8pm skyping their boyfriends or talking to family. One of those girls I still talk to till this day and she travels a fuck ton. But I seriously doubt she's sleeping around. It wasn't her Character at all to do so. If you check her ig she don't even post pics of herself but just landmarks of the places she's been too. She was one of the girls who didn't drink, didn't go to bars with us and was in bed very early when she was on the trip with us.

It was the same when I went to Japan for a study abroad trip. None of those girls were partying or sleeping around.

Now the girls that did hookup with guys while we were on our European trip? Yes I could tell right away what they were all about. Point is, if your girlfriend showed absolutely no signs of being a whore or anything, I truly don't think she will sleep with guys in a foreign country while she's on a trip with family.

Like that's just sketchy. You don't have anything to worry about unless you noticed signs before hand. The guy in the story that we are responding too is in a relationship with a whore. She slept around in her own country too, not just abroad.

Dont compare your girlfriend to the one in the story.

[–]tempolaca1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I had some female friends through the years, true friends, and they went on trips. Every time they traveled with friends, it was a fuck fest. Every time. But when they traveled alone, they very rarely cheated their boyfriends. Not because they weren't sluts, it's just more hard to do it without friends. Also in business or conference trips they also rarely cheated. Those trips are just too short.

[–]Wood_Warden0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Just as an aside, sounds like you work/study a lot - maybe she hasn't been given enough "attention" and might be seeking it out some where far far away.

[–]PM_ME_NUDES_PLEEZ0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I would never let my girl friend go on any vacation that her parents or myself weren't with her. If you don't wanna break up, tell her to call you every night and facetime when she's in Europe. She could still be fucking during the day, but day sex is rarer, or right before she facetime's but it's better than nothing.

[–]Verne421 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Downgrade her from gf to plate, start spinning more plates, cut the ties with her family/don't spend time with them, and make her fight for her time with you If you want to find a loyal gf go to a church, a library, or some place totally distanced from the hedonistic nature of the humankind

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Idk I've backpacked abroad and yes MOST women in their 20s are 'finding themselves' and any strange dick they can see. But man there are some weirdo girls that are hardcore into the backpacking scene.

But yep. Overall as a rule of thumb if you are dating someone and they go on a trip then you should be included in the invite. If you are dating someone for a year and her and her girl friends are going to europe for two weeks then just end it. Im not anti dating, but if you really like someone then abroad is something you would want to experience with them.

[–]ireadredpillonce88 points89 points  (29 children) | Copy

Multiply by 3 and add 7 as I always say. Possibly more pending how many trips abroad she's been on and for how long.

[–]pm_me_tangibles59 points60 points  (23 children) | Copy

one girl i knew said 70. my eyebrow raised dangerously

[–]bjcm589168 points69 points  (12 children) | Copy

I was out with a girl (23 y/o at the time) and she reckoned she lost her v plates at 17 and had been with 66 guys since then. I worked out that (not counting LTR's) that would've worked out to nearly a different guy every month. She is now married, two kids...

I wonder what it's like to realise what a slut your mother was back in the day?

[–]markinsinz732 points33 points  (1 child) | Copy

What kind of guy did she end up marrying

[–]bjcm589138 points39 points  (0 children) | Copy

Never met her husband. But I figure you'd either have to be completely blind to the red flags, or have such low standards you didn't care about putting a ring on it after a decade of being used like a human flesh light. Don't get me wrong, I liked the girl- we got on fairly well- but I could never date a chick like that, let alone marry one.

A rollercoaster is fun, but you don't want to put one in your front yard...

[–]1Original_Dankster27 points28 points  (6 children) | Copy

Times change. My mom was a virgin when she met my dad (he confirmed it when giving me advice). After he died young, she had one boyfriend for a while after him, it didn't last, then hit menopause and lost interest in men.

She was born in the 1930s (I'm middle age myself now).

I truly feel sorry for young men in this day and age. My old man got lucky even for his time, but it was still possible in the 1950s to meet a decent woman. Hasn't been that way for multiple generations.

[–]DigitalDragonSlayer22 points23 points  (5 children) | Copy

Hasn't been that way for multiple generations

Christ it sucks to be a millennial 😭

[–]Battagliare15 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy

It sucks even more if you are a Gen Z...

[–]bjcm589111 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy

In some ways it does, in other ways its' great.

How many jobs back in the 50's allowed a man to work (and make great money) from a home office?

The internet has been both a blessing and a curse at the same time.

[–]DigitalDragonSlayer5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Double edged sword for sure

[–]pag_el6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

Dude it’s still possible in this day and age. My girlfriend was a virgin when we met (we were 20 yrs old). She’s polish, extremely conservative and perfect wife material. Cleans, cooks, and loves it. It’s extremely rare but don’t lose hope. Just gotta travel, is all.

[–]DigitalDragonSlayer3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Oh realistically, I don’t mope on the state of women today. I’m in sales so I view it through a BD lenses: life is a numbers game. I mean one might get lucky, like you, but for the rest of the bro’s out there like myself, we just have to cast a huge net and meet a ton of women to try to find the least fucked one.

Good traits in your girl. Finding conservative chicks in Boston is extra tough, but I’m not complaining and that is a goal.

[–]kellykebab5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Imagine just being that indulged. I'm sure she worked hard for those meaningful lays, too.

[–]pm_me_tangibles2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I wonder what it's like to realise what a slut your mother was back in the day?

In 20 years it'd be rarer to have to have a mother who's not a slut.

[–]Its_the_other_tj40 points41 points  (2 children) | Copy

When I was in my mid 20s I was fucking around with this little 19 year old art student and the topic of numbers came up. Giving very few fucks I told her my actual number, somewhere in the 60s at the time, much to my surprise she says "omg! That's my exact number too!" At 19? Holy fuck. She proceeded to pull out an actual literal fucking journal with guys names that she'd banged. Well mostly names more then a few entrees were like "guy in the blue shirt from the concert" or some such descriptor. The most alarming one simply read "hockey team." Def explained why she was so good in bed I guess shrug

[–]noct3rn4l33 points34 points  (0 children) | Copy

😂😂 i woulda said out loud in my best dave chapelle voice: “damn negga the whole team?!!” and proceeded to laugh my ass off

[–]pm_me_tangibles1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Old me would have been shocked and appalled that a girl could enjoy fucking so many guys. new me knows that women are as horny as men, but far more selective and far sneakier about it because of the negative reaction to the truth they'd get from (a) men like old me and - worse - (b) other women.

[–]TriggeringEveryone11 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy

If she says 70 it's probably the truth.

[–]pm_me_tangibles1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

well you might think differently if you met her. she likes her tats. the first time i met her she was butt naked. life drawing. amazing, sensational tits.

[–]beachbbqlover8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

They tend to get honest at some point.

[–]pm_me_tangibles0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

she was 24 at the time. i'm fairly sure the 3x +7 rule still applied. if anything her memory was so bad she may legit have forgotten, even before solipsism.

[–]jonpe873 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy


I'm laughing so fucking hard

[–]antariusz0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I’m a guy at around 250ish, I think I might be stupid enough to believe a girl that said 70.

[–]pm_me_tangibles0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Multiply by 3 add 7. Never fails.

[–]TimGuoRen2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Yeah, and if she actually had sex with 3 people? What is she supposed to say?

You simply can't know.

[–]aDrunkenWhaler1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Most likely she'll say 1 or 2.

[–]AllahHatesFags0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Just add a zero. Bitch says 3 guys that means it's really ~30 guys.

[–]Pill-de-Blasio147 points148 points  (5 children) | Copy

I was dreading looking at the comments thinking it’d be a bunch of “she’s a free woman, you can’t control her past who cares!1!1!”

Ended up pleasantly surprised though. That poem was fucking gold.

[–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman28 points29 points  (0 children) | Copy

Ended up pleasantly surprised though

Me too, it did look awfully brigaded though.

[–]1-800-Dick-Rockhard18 points19 points  (2 children) | Copy

tbh I've never seen cucked behavior from relationship_advice althought I only check them out once a week for the best of but compared to cuckery in the similar subs it's a god send.

[–]TimGuoRen5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

They always just suggest a break up. So yeah, they are full in character here.

[–]askmrcia1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Relationship_advice sub reddit seems pretty red pill.

Now the much larger relationships sub reddit is pretty blue pill and those comments would have shamed the guy telling him he's too insecure

[–]WuTangAyri38 points39 points  (2 children) | Copy

Those comments really surprised me tho lol. Seems like our ideas are spreading

[–]curiouschipmunk101019 points20 points  (0 children) | Copy

Maybe, it's possible people are simply following the current trend in ideology as a consequence to some of the extreme accusations, commercials etc in recent news

[–]yomo860 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I don't know. It's a pendulum so much is true. Right now, any more pushing of the narrative will come off as ridicilous. It happended in the years prior to 1900 to women, too, when the patriarchy become more and more demanding and less and less giving.

[–][deleted] 61 points62 points  (5 children) | Copy

When you use women to validate your masculinity you also start buying Alpha Soap™. This is a ideological mistake and a deep one. When you live in a consumer society and do not produce you might as well accept that you live in a deep void which lacks any sense of meaning. Actually they do and the only reason they do not commit suicide is because it's just as senseless as their everyday lives.

[–]clavabot25 points26 points  (0 children) | Copy

Are you saying Alpha soap won't get me laid smh doomed for be a curreycel for life gonna kms /s

[–]destraht2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

"too dumb to run, too dead to die" - Marilyn Manson

[–]dingleburry_joe0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Bruh the soap hate is real haha so good

[–]Chadster11362 points63 points  (6 children) | Copy

LOL do redpillers just lurk in the relationship subreddit now? I'm reading comments from it and about 70% seem to be redpill advice

[–]markinsinz744 points45 points  (4 children) | Copy

No people are realising more and more about keeping self respect but they still ride the 'her past don't matter' Rollercoaster.

As an example if that story changed whereby the gf had already told the guy about her past and bla bla and if the guy said that shit didn't make him feel comfortable then the tune of that sub would change to bluepill.

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Nahh there was literally one of the comments saying "Alpha Fux/Beta Bux. Are you beta Bux?"

[–]beachbbqlover-3 points-2 points  (0 children) | Copy

The terminology is getting lame.

"Alpha alpha alpha" Like Rocky from undergrads.

[–]illusiveab3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Even the most blue pilled people start to see ideological patterns after a while

[–]askmrcia1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

That's the Relationship_advice sub reddit. They always been pretty redpill. You're confusing that sub with the much larger and popular relationships sub reddit

[–]vullnet1230 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

From what ive seen, the relationship_advice sub is mostly men, and they give out a lot better advice than the relationship sub.

[–]throwitdownman58 points59 points  (2 children) | Copy

Oldest trick in the book - N counts are never accurate.

[–]yumyumgivemesome26 points27 points  (1 child) | Copy

Awhile back I had a girlfriend who I spoke to openly about this stuff right from the start. I approached the conversation extremely nonjudgmental and as if it didn't matter to me (which it didn't because I knew she didn't have long term potential). She basically listed out the 18-20 guys in her n-count. But she also identified the 8 or so guys that she thinks barely count because they were either a ONS or regrettable decisions. I think those are the types of guys that most girls will immediately remove from their n-count and still be able to tell you their reduced number with a sincere and straight face. And if the number still seems higher than what she'd expect the new boyfriend to be cool with, then she'll surely drop that n-count a little lower. All that said, it wouldn't surprise me if my ex-girlfriend's real number was 2x or 3x what she actually told me.

[–]Americasycho0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Wow you dated a real slut, huh?

[–]1Obediah_Stane24 points25 points  (0 children) | Copy

I put as much credence in what a girl says to me as a politician. Just nod and keep doing whatever you've been doing.

[–]Endorsed Contributorredpillcad108 points109 points  (7 children) | Copy

Before anyone whines about evil women hopping on strange cock why dont you just become the chad they jump on and stop putting yourself in the position where bitches can hurt you in the first place

[–]beachbbqlover16 points17 points  (0 children) | Copy

Shhh! Dont tell them. Fuck!

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lmao at ever thinking you can be 100% chad all the time, especially in a relationship.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

This is correct, if you can’t beat them, join them.

Virtually every young woman you meet in this generation will have been pumped and dumped dozens of times. People should accept it and partake rather than whining.

[–]Endorsed Contributorredpillcad4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

There is no beating them. There is always some guy who is better and there are always hundreds of bitches who are interchangeable into your mission.

Keep that attitude and you will do well

[–]Future_Alpha0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

you just become the chad

Easy to say if you are born good looking. IF you are born ugly, or have hair loss then have fun becoming chad. Getting huge naturally takes YEARS, might as well use roids.

[–]xcalibercaliber15 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy

I thought we were only talking about domestic dick!

[–]Borsao6629 points30 points  (0 children) | Copy

That dick she got in Jamaica don't count! - Chris Rock

[–]markinsinz739 points40 points  (5 children) | Copy

Every girl is like. If she's hot it's damn near guaranteed. Wake up motherfuckers. Get used to this shit. Cause unless you grew up in a small town and met some girl who had a tight grip on her by family and community (Even then but it's ur beSt odds) then it's guaranteed your dating a girl who fucked multiple guys.

AWALT is like 99.99999% true these days. Each time I thought I found a unicorn(not just dating but some girl I meet through frinds of friends) it turns out she hoe-d it up that one summer and what nots.

It's a sex crazed world we live in. Enjoy the ride and the decline

[–]bemore_-2 points-1 points  (3 children) | Copy

I've met a lot of girls that went to all girl schools, a lot of their numbers are always low

[–]420KUSHBUSH0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

getting downvoted for bringing something of insight to the discussion

Ah yes, definite social progress

[–]bemore_2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Internet points don't mean anything. You'll get upvotes if you validate and downvotes if you're contrary

[–]metallicdrama11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

Chris Rock's 7 dick curve is outdated. For these times it's like at least a 30 dick curve.

[–]1clon3man10 points11 points  (5 children) | Copy

Stories like this show a really contrarian viewpoint as to who has "privilege". One gender can have the time of their live in Europe in their 20s while the other has to struggle to make ends meet. I can't do anything other than admire above average attractiveness women who are low in anxiety and live their 20s like this. Must be a hell of a ride compared to everyone else, kind of hard to have low self worth after 5-10 years of that.

[–]bjcm589111 points12 points  (2 children) | Copy

I envied girls like this, back in my early to mid 20's.

But then I realised that the wall remains undefeated- and I could be dating/ marrying/ having children with younger girls for decades to come and enjoying the life of a bachelor if I want- and those few angst-ridden years up to the age of 27 will be nothing but a faint memory.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

the wall remains undefeated haha love it.

[–]TheTrenTrannyTrain5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Then try to elevate yourself so you can bang those 20 year olds.

[–]blackierobinsun39 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

Oh so that’s why women love going to Paris so much

[–]Captain_Raamsley11 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy

abstinence until marriage is looking more and more appealing

[–]beachbbqlover6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'm glad you feel that way.

[–]SKRedPill3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Men exaggerate, women understate.

[–]n8dawwg12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy

She is not your girl, it's just your turn

[–]Dontneedflashbro2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I wouldn't believe a 3/10 200 pound hoe claiming she only slept with eight guys guys. Why are you surprised your gf isn't a special little flower? It's beyond me how you believed her in the first place.

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"she was someone that had her fun and now doesn’t want to do much now that she is in a relationship. I before just thought she was a reserved person but now it’s more like is she just reserved with me?"

The real question here is how can the guy ignore the obvious red flag? All bitches get stingy with the pussy once they get that wedding ring, and even more stingy once they get that baby, so if the cow "doesn’t want to do much now " and is "reserved" when she is trying to seal the deal....he ain't gonna be getting much at all further down the path. Someone needs to introduce this future 'born loser' to MGTOW!

[–]Grimsterr4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's not the count that matters, it's the lie.

Well, the count kinda matters too, but the lie is more important.

[–]WuTangAyri4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

If she is 24 and has already confirmed that she has slept with 3 guys, bro she has slept with waaaaaay more.

Only time a girl hasn't had a lot of partners is when they have had none. Once they get a taste for sex it is addicting

[–]saruin2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Back during my blue pill days it always struck me as odd that my ex INSISTED to me that she slept with only 4 dudes almost to the point of tears. It was as if she was trying to convince herself that.

This was at a time when she "needed a break from the relationship" and you all know how that goes. I'm making the assumption here or maybe I misheard that it was 4 dudes total in her lifetime. Now that I look back, for all I know it could have been "4" dudes during our break or even in one night! I was better off leaving that baggage behind.

EDIT: She also went out of state during that time... yeah, big oof!

[–]1bruiser1816 points17 points  (19 children) | Copy

Yeah when she says she’s only slept with 3 guys, especially at 24, that’s 99% of the time bullshit.

Ironically though, a girl I’m plating is 17 (I’m 18) and claims an n-count of 3 too, including me, though it’s believable because I’ve known her through high school and she had been in 2 serious LTRs the whole time, from the time she was 15 and only broke off the last one a few months ago, so 3 is somewhat believable. There could be another guy or 2 she’s ‘forgetting’ about but either way who gives a shit.

My point - it’s believable for her, a 17 year old girl who had 2 back to back LTRs from age 15. Maybe not, maybe lost her virginity at 10 years old, maybe cheated 100 times during the relationship. Maybe. But from a 24 year old girl? Yeah, I wouldn’t buy that.

[–]UnluckyPenguin13 points14 points  (5 children) | Copy

Father here. I've seen enough to know that a girls relationship with her father (and the father himself) will have a noticeable impact on a girl's n-count.

  1. Is her father squishy or to be feared?
  2. Does she have a good relationship with her father?
  3. Is that a good relationship in the form of the dad bending over backwards to please his daughter (enabling hamsters) or give her real-world advice that might hurt sometimes?

Based on the above answers, you'll know if it's an N-count <5 or... closer to 25+.

[–]1bruiser185 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

Completely agree and have known this for a while.

  1. Her dad seems to be a strong man, she admires him and doesn’t fuck about with him.

  2. Yes.

  3. I can’t get a detailed answer for this, but I can tell by the respect she has for him he does not bend over backwards and enable her. Her other two sisters turned out very respectable so that says something about him.

Not to say that this disregards AWALT. I’m not pulling the wool over my eyes and pretending this girl is an angel. She may be lying, she may be seeing other people right now. But from what I can tell, she isn’t too awful lol.

[–]UnluckyPenguin0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Not to say that this disregards AWALT.

This is not the place to be politically correct. But let me explain as best I can.

AWALT applies to what women are capable of. However, at least with n-count, certain women who were raised old-fashioned or have a solid family foundation would resist putting themselves in a situation where AWALT would take over.

They could still have a high n-count, it's just less likely based on the expected resistance. However, if you know a woman was in such a situation, then you should expect their actions to follow suit (AWALT).

Regardless, it's much easier when talking man-to-man to use blanket statements without having to explicitly explain that there's always exceptions. You should start embracing blanket statements and find out who in your circle isn't a politically correct SJW.

[–]1bruiser181 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Sure, what you say is right. My point is more so that I’m not going to pretend just because of her dad that she is exempt from such behavior. It is, as you pointed out, much less likely... but still a possibility. Do her friends sleep around? Is she really the only one in the group that doesn’t? Unlikely. If her friends are like her, however, as they are in my case, and she also has a good relationship with daddy, then the chances of her being a slut are far lower.

[–]coopdawgX0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Most recent girl i had engagements with told me i was her 5th.

  1. Father is a socially awkward neckbeard. His wife (her mom) does not and has not ever worked.

  2. Yes, or so it seems

  3. In the form of him paying for her college and graduate school, spoon feeding her everything

When i was told “5” i knew this immediately to be a lie

[–]ProFriendZoner3 points4 points  (10 children) | Copy

"I've only slept with 3 guys" and the rest of the sentence not spoken out loud "... today ... so far."

[–]flipwater4 points5 points  (8 children) | Copy

Sincere question, what makes you so confident that most women have that much sex?

[–]ReformSociety0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

It's called an exaggeration.

[–]flipwater0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah obviously, but the message is that it's unlikely for a woman to have only slept with 3 men. That's what I'm questioning the evidence for

[–]shenanigans380 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

What makes you confident that they haven’t?

[–]flipwater0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

I'm not lol, hence why I said "sincere question"

[–]shenanigans380 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Fair enough. I’m not OP but I’m of the opinion that since it’s so much easier for women to get laid, they therefore have much higher n counts as a collective average than men.

[–]1bruiser180 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Yeah but at 17 years old after being in 2 relationships since 15... very unlikely.

[–]shenanigans380 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I was talking more in general than about OP. But she very likely could have a high n count for her age

[–]1bruiser180 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Lol. Generally, yeah. I go to school with this girl, she had 2 boyfriends the entire time I knew her, started fucking her after last break up.

Never know though, could’ve cheated 100 times during said relationships. AWALT. Just unlikely is my point.

[–]Throw88276 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Those don't count! Obviously! /s

[–]jonpe872 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

3 months without sex? how can you be that stupid?

[–]askmrcia0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Probably came from a traditional religious family where he was taught to respect women and wait until they are ready (aka don't escalate until she gives you clear signs).

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[–]Balkanskii1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Waiting three months for sex - that's the first big flag right here. 3-4 dates tops and then NEXT.

[–]AdamNJH0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

3 tops, with the 3rd you inviting her back to your place.

[–]ImmunosuppressedTau1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I've some real light bulb moments since starting my journey with TRP. I remember there was this girl (HB7, Insta Babe type) that I brought back one night. I fucked her that night and the next day left her in my bed to go kayaking. I never bothered to contact her again. Her bff would give me shit on why I wasn't gonna see her again.

I randomly bumped into her a month later on her way back from a wedding. She starts grilling me on why I dont want a relationship in general but was aiming it at her. I just stated that I dont have time to see someone right now. She starts whinging that she's tired of partying and just wants quiet nights in and someone to share that with ( sounds boring). All the while Im just listening to her. She didn't know however that I knew that she spent the weekend before going around Paris on the back of a scooter with a fat bald guy for some cocaine. Yeah real gf material there.

Women can do the most depraved shit and wipe their memories clear. They are out to con you. They are expert salesmen. They'll tell you a car has only had one previous owner, has a perfect service record and comes with a full tank of fuel but you can be sure you're getting a bad deal.

[–]The_Red_Trooper2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Most women already have been ran thru and gangbanged. before the age of 20. College is an eye opener. Marriage and LTRs are a thing in the past if we are being honest. If you are in a LTR then dont take it serious and have something on the side. Every woman will lie about the notch count so it dont matter what she says. just assume its over 20 so you wont be surprised if you find out.

[–]johnyann1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

It isn’t the n count that’s a problem. It’s the lying. She’s probably gonna lie about a lot of other shit too.

[–]furcryingoutloud0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

How do you ever know the true n-count? And if you can't ever know, why do you care? I don't. But then again, I don't ever expect to have another LTR to save my life, so for me it's a moot subject. If I had to do it all again, I would avoid every single fucking LTR I ever had. Not one was ever worth the hassle.

[–]SILENTSAM690 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I once knew a girl who told three different guys she slept with that she had only ever been with three guys. It was kind of funny. Seems to be the number to trust least.

[–]Shychien0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I wouldn't ask something that I don't care/want to know the answer.

Just like one would claim that Siberia, Canada and Alaska is just ice and Tibet is illegal, therefore Brazil is the largest country in the world, one could claim and not even notice that ONS in Europe doesn't count towards that N count.

[–]frooschnate0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Is it normal that thinking about this makes you feel disgusted?

Feel like I still got something tiny inside that lives in fantasy blue-pill land, even if I know it ain’t true.

[–]FlyingSexistPig0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Those guys don't count.

Because of reasons.

[–]AliBarakat0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Is this the reason girls take vacations to Europe?

I bet if it was a guy, he'd have a hard time finding someone to fuck in Europe. Those stuck up Eurotrash hoes... tsk tsk tsk.

[–]AllahHatesFags0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Textbook Alpha Fucks and Beta Bucks. Whenever a thot tells you her n-count, add a zero. What does make me glad are the replies that OP is getting in the thread are making me think more and more guys are taking the Red Pill to some extent or another.

[–]loveladee1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Red pill is becoming common knowledge. You can’t call it red pill tho, that’s the funny part

[–]i_the_throwaway_860 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Reminds me of this

[–]dingleburry_joe0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Your new mantra is your girlfriend doesn’t go on solo trips with her friends. You know what’s going down when this happens. Even if it doesn’t why fuck yourself.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

You can't stop her from going.. but you don't have to be there when she gets back.

Frankly, if you're in a LTR and she desires to go without you, it's a big red flag anyway.

[–]dingleburry_joe0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I think I’ve been blesssed to never have this happen to me. Because of this sub I’ve avoided so many tragedies that many men have suffered

[–]Veli4ko0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It seems that you are a bit insecure. Drop that bitch and go out and fuck a couple of hoes increas your body count and then look for long term relationship.

[–]halfback9100 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

How many cities did she visit? If she just went to Paris that's not too bad! Hahaha.

[–]coopdawgX0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

He should take her back. I bet she’ll have changed, will come to her senses and then they will ride off into the sunset.

[–]dDiegoDLV0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

She had what 4 - 7? first night fucks in Europe (and a bunch of others she lied about stateside) This dope waits 3 months and has to LTR her to get some 🤣

You know she was getting drilled out by someone else in that 3 months time while he was waiting patiently.

[–]SalporinRP0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

That's why it's retarded when guys on askTRP talk n-count being a red flag. No girl is ever going to be honest with you.

It's the other red flags (values, morals, family, lifestyle, etc.) that will give you an impression of how many guys she's fucked.

[–]5Imperator_Red0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Hahaha the comments are red pilled a fuck. Pour it on boys!

Seriously though what a fucking whore. I'm like 90% through the anger/depression phase but sometimes shit like this just makes me so fucking pissed. She's a goddamn used cum rag.

[–]Tdemps010 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

When-ever I ask, the usually give me some BS number. Then they ask me and I be truthful and say its around the 140 range. They then usually add 10-15 on top of their original after that lol

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I’m not surprised about anything anymore! I had an Arab girl request to be deflowered. I really don’t fancy taking a woman’s virginity so I was very hesitant. What shocked me is that she really didn’t care about her religion end it importance of being a virgin. Her plans were to get married and have kids somewhere near in in the future. “If you get hitched up you can kiss your plans to get plowed by me good bye” I responded. With a straight face she said “i dont care. My marraige wont stop me from doing that. He doesn’t have to know”. This bitch was a hijab wearing muslim. Wow. Staight up savage. Stories like these havr thought me to never trust women. They would lie in a heartbeat and think nothing of it. Truth is an inconvenience to them. My ex told me that facts are grows if the make her feel uncomfortable. She would rather spin the truth so that she is the victim. Her prime goal is to be preceived as a saint.

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[–]SunlightandChaos2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I think you might be a bit confused

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EDIT: After reading over the post the first thing that comes to mind is how I would treat a trip to Europe in my 20s.

I would do the same shit. Lying about it and taking control of a man when she gets home and acting difference totally makes sense and should be expected. Cultivating dominance early on in a relationship is basic shit. She was looking to run this dude and did a great job of it. She didn't even think twice about being a whore in Europe, it's called compartmentalization. I do it all the time, it's fabulous for being a piece of shit with some people, and being honorable the rest of the time.

When you are on vacation, with very little social repercussion for being a huge whore, you can more easily get your fuck on. People know you are just here for now, so they take their turn with an exotic. Sounds fucking great. I bet seaport towns are fucking insane full of pussy like this.


I just can't believe a woman would ever need to lie to me about this. I am extremely open about how many women I have had sex with, and I am always overly interested in all the wild sexual things they have done, big dicks, small dicks, black dicks, mexican, all of them.

I want to know how kink they've gone and for how long, the best and the worst shit they've ever done. I love details and I am interested and doing those things that she's done that I've never done to see how I do, this counts triple for anal

So many women have told me anal was horrible, and I have to prove them wrong, even though generally I tend to have a bigger dick than most the dudes they've been with.

Anyways that's so fucking comical. I really believe the only reason women hide what a huge whore they've been is because they believe it will lower their value in your eyes. If you explain that it raises the value then they can't stop sharing.

I had this divorced preachers wife of three kids tell me how she'd been part of a gangbang in front of an audience. She was a ton of fun, gave me the best tit job of my life. Another one was telling me how she had been spitroasted plenty of times but had never been 'airtight' which I thought was just the best look in her eye when she said that.

I would have given her that experience if I knew two dudes that would get naked and bang a chick with me.

She's a hot mess full of holes begging for it. Who gives a fuck if it's just your turn? Have her get an STD check with you and then feel better about it you fucking prudes.

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