Got accused of sexual assault/rape. How to proceed?

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February 16, 2019
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Background on me: HIGH SMV, 8/10, Athletic Body/Muscular Physique, nice jaw, attend top university, hard STEM major, guaranteed job, have a nice car, service man, and have a hobby that makes me money.

Background on Sally: Petite, nice body, HIGH SMV, 9/10 All the guys at the party wanted her, smart, pretty, cheerleader type, etc.

I went to a birthday party tonight with my 4 close friends at university. As soon as I got to the party, I greeted everyone, talked to everyone and made my presence known around the room. I had one cup of alcohol and I did take a 3 hits of weed. I’m talking to my friends, talking to people, and vibing the entire night. This entire time this girl we’ll call her Sally, keeps eyeing me. Even as she dances in other dudes at the party, she watches me the entire night. She sees me talk to girls, guys, and overall just have a good time.

The birthday person finally came and we cheered for him and danced and everyone was having a great time.

I sit on the couch and browse social media. My female friend we’ll call her Monica starts talking to me asking if I’m ok. I say I’m fine I’m texting my other friend (we’ll call him Josh who was the DJ) and we start making more small talk. Eventually this other girl named “Jessica” comes up to me and we start talking. After I finished talking with Jessica I went outside to sit down by the campfire. I’m on my phone and everyone around me is talking. Jessica is across from me too.

Eventually everyone gets distracted by some drunk idiot. I get up and tell Jessica I’m about to leave and I tell her we should exchange numbers. We do. Keep in mind Sally was eyeing my like a piece of meat the entire night. She even saw me get Jessica’s number.

I’m heading to leave the party and go home and I see my friend Josh outside. Sally is talking to him and his other friends as well. Then Josh comes up to me and says I should take sally home. I’m reluctant because alcohol has been involved. Sally assures me it will be ok. So we start walking back to my car, only problem is the party was in an apartment. So I forgot which visitors spot I parked. So Sally and I start walking and talking. Entire time I’m agree and amplify, passing shit tests, maintaining mystery, applying kino by touching her arm, waist, and hair as we walk and talk. Sally is laughing, showing interest, having a great time.

We finally find my car. We get inside and Sally says she’s hungry. I give her 2 fast food options. We go to option 1 and the line is too long. We go to option 2. On our way to option 2 Sally asks me for my Instagram. I give it to her. She saw I was very accomplished and stuff. At option 2 Sally gets fries and chicken. I just get fries. I ask Sally where she would like to go, she said my place. So we do.

We get back to my place, at no point does Sally say she wants to leave or she’s uncomfortable. We walk to my apartment and Sally asks me if i have any makeup remover. I jokingly say of course. She asks why I have that. I make a joke about my sister. We go upstairs to my place in my bedroom and she asks me again. I say no. She asks if I have face wash, I say yes and give it to her. She then washes her face. Then she asks if I have a big t shirt she could wear. I told her no but I have my jacket. I gave her my jacket. Sally goes into the bathroom to change. I change outside in the bedroom. Sally comes out of the bathroom without her bra, panties, and clothes she was wearing. All she had on was my jacket.

We get into my bed and Sally gets her food and starts eating. We are talking and I’m applying light kino by touching her thigh. Sally then says she full and I take the food from her and put it on the counter. We both lay down in my bed and talk. Then I lean in for a kiss, Sally starts kissing me back and everything’s going well. Sally then says she has to go to the bathroom. She gets up and goes.

10minutes go by and I don’t see or hear Sally in the bathroom. I go to the bathroom and knock. She doesn’t answer. I open the door and she’s on the phone with someone and has the shower running so I cant hear her. I ask her if everything is ok. She says it’s fine and she’s okay. I say ok and leave the bathroom. Sally then comes out of the bathroom and gets into bed with me. We lay down then start back kissing and stuff. That’s when Sally’s phone starts to ring. She jumps out of bed to answer it and goes to the bathroom. She doesn’t come out for another 10minutes. I hear a door slam. I get up and check the bathroom. Sally is gone. I share a bathroom with someone and apparently sally left my apartment through me and my neighbors bathroom then left through his front door. Sally left her bra, panties, and purse with ID and stuff in my place.

I immediately called my female friend Tasha who lives walking distance. I explain the situation and how the girl disappeared and I’m trying to find her. As I’m on the phone with Tasha I’m sending Tasha pictures of Sally’s ID, Instagram, and University ID.

About 20-30min pass and I hear a knock at my door. I hang up the phone with Tasha in case it was Sally. I open the door and It’s this random dude I don’t know. Sally is next to him. I’ll call the dude Bob. Bob tells me to give Sally back her stuff and I’m thinking oh shit Bob is Sally’s boyfriend. Bob then says angrily “Sally told me you were in here trying to rape her man.” I explained to Bob that’s not what happened and I didn’t touch Sally or make her or try to force her.

I call Tasha back and tell her to get to my apartment ASAP. At this time Sally still has on my jacket. Bob tells me he’s going to call the cops. I tell bob to do it so we can explain the situation. Bob and Sally go to leave while Sally is still wearing my jacket which costs: $70. I tell bob that Sally needs to take it off. Bob tells sally as well. Sally doesn’t and says she’s naked underneath she can’t.

I follow bob and sally outside my apartment and Bob and I are in a verbal and somewhat physical altercation, Bob also has called the police and has them on the phone. Tasha is also still on the phone with me listening. I tell Tasha again to come over. She does. This time I’m trying to call all my friends even Josh, the one who told me to take Sally home and no one answers.

Right after the police were called Sally starts crying saying how I didn’t touch her and all we did was kiss and how she made it up and just wanted to leave and didn’t want any police. Sally also still has on my jacket. I’m arguing with Bob and Tasha finally comes. The police also come. I sit down and I hand Tasha my phone to record. Police ask what happened and Bob explains to the police that I tried to rape sally and fight him. The police had me sit down.

Sally then explain what happened to the police and then I gave Tasha my phone and told her to start recording. She did. Tasha recorded the entire interaction with myself and the policeman. I explained my side of the story and was extremely respectful and cooperative.

The police tell me that I’m not being charged or arrested because Sally admitted nothing happened and we only kissed. She said I didn’t try to penetrate her, force myself on her, or make her uncomfortable. The police say no report is being written because nothing happened but he told me to stay clear of parties and alcohol so I can avoid these situations.

What I’m afraid of is what if the Bob and Sally try to ruin my reputation at school. Like they say I tried to rape her and I’m a rapist and what not. I have my whole future ahead of me, I’m afraid of what this means for me or if they try to blackmail me or extort me.

What should I do here? I have witnesses, videoproof, receipts from the food, time stamps, call Logs, etc.

TL;DR: Girl kept eyeing me at a party while I was being social and fun, I took the girl to eat and then back to my home, we made out twice in my bed, she ran away, accusesed me of sexual assault/rape, called her boyfriend, police were called, no files are being charged against me because the girl admitted she lied and nothing happened. But I’m afraid of what this means for me?


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Title Got accused of sexual assault/rape. How to proceed?
Author TRPKaty
Upvotes 155
Comments 124
Date 16 February 2019 10:10 AM UTC (2 years ago)
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[–]1atticusfinch1973234 points235 points  (11 children) | Copy

Bob is obviously an orbiter white knight, but you screwed up by engaging him at all and allowing it to escalate to where it did with police. You're lucky Sally told the truth.

Odds are she has a boyfriend and felt guilty in the moment. Sucks for you. Avoid them both.

[–]rusfairfax46 points47 points  (1 child) | Copy

Classic sexual assault allegation scenario: you hook up with a girl who has a boyfriend/husband, she gets the guilts, claims sexual assault.

I’ve seen careers ruined by this.

Never never never go near a woman with a pre-existing partner. And be sure to ask if you don’t know.

[–]GrinninGremlin4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Never never never go near a woman with a pre-existing partner.

This advice sounds good on the surface, but it isn't really practical because if she lies and says she is single...How would you know otherwise? Waiting and getting to know someone over time might give you a glimpse of schedule inconsistencies that indicate she is occupied with spending time with someone else...but it could just as likely be that she is busy with school, work, or hobbies also.

Unless you have the motivation to stalk her then most of your information about her relationship status comes from her. The stalking plan, however, is a bad idea for many reasons. Aside from any illegality, if she did discover it, you would immediately be pegged and outed as a "creepy, desperate, needy, insecure" person to her and her friends....not exactly the PR reputation you want.

[–]Imtoosexyformypants10 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy

I’ve met crazy lately, real dangerous crazy. I thought I knew but had no idea.

This guy did himself a great injustice by not vetting properly. One of the reasons I don’t sleep with woman on the first night. You roll the dice when you fuck with woman you’ve just met. I’m not advocating to stop, just what the inherent risks are.

[–]thisislife45640 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

so true, once girl came over, we got naked, then I listened to her how her boyfriend used to rape her hundreds of times. this went on from 11pm to 4am...

[–]livefreeofdie4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

What should have OP done with Bob?

[–][deleted] 104 points105 points  (2 children) | Copy

Wow... When the alleged victim is saying that she didn't get raped but the white knight who wasn't even there says the contrary... It's Bob who should get arrested on a high felony of supreme faggotery.

Seriously though, you're probably freaking out right now . Let's look at the positive: Sally told the truth and you have that on video. That is pure fucking gold. Make copies, put it on a cloud server ASAP. This is your lifeline right there.

Regarding your reputation, you should totally sue for diffamation and complain to your school that you are being harassed if the white knight tries anything. You should post on the legal advice sub right now to see what your options are if that happens.

IMO, and as others have said, Sally is probably just guilty she cheated on her boyfriend and she called her white knight for emotional support. The white knight, his head full of bullshit from gender studies classes and his tiny dick hard for Sally, tried to convince her that she got raped. Sally, not being that idiotic, said otherwise.

[–]Bedtimeshine10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

No bob saw her Snapchat location or some shit and was close to her tracking her down.

[–]huntersam133 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

now thats a charge

[–]jklifexxx72 points73 points  (9 children) | Copy

This is why I don’t go to bars or invite a women over to my place if she has taken even a single sip of alcohol

[–]gainzsince200113 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy

Noted

[–]_Legendairy_ 1 points [recovered]  (2 children) | Copy

Where exactly do you go, if you don’t mind me asking?

[–]jklifexxx18 points19 points  (1 child) | Copy

Day game lmao, plus i’m military & black so no matter what if she had any alcohol it wouldn’t be consent i’d be screwed especially with this whole metoo movement..not putting myself in that situation

[–]livefreeofdie0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

How do you bang and score chicks then?

[–]SlappaDaBayssMon7 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy

...

[–]jklifexxx7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

Lmao there’s cold approaching/day game/Tons of other stuff clubs isn’t the only way

[–]SlappaDaBayssMon2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Lol that was my point.

[–]mrpthrowa92 points93 points  (17 children) | Copy

Get a lawyer.

This may all blow over which is likely

If it doesn’t you’re gonna wish you had a lawyer I assure you

Also this Bob dude... is lower than scum and you should treat him as such

Hold frame throughout, no apologies no reach out... sounds like you have a good social circle this is when you’ll discover your true friends

[–]OutsideTheCage317 points18 points  (1 child) | Copy

Get a lawyer.

This is the only intelligent and reasonable response on this thread.

"Get a lawyer" is always the right answer.

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yes, always get a lawyer. I like being paid.

[–]Charlie_0071 point2 points  (13 children) | Copy

I really don’t think you can blame Bob here. If your female friend called you and said the same, you would come to her defense. This is all about Sally and her mental health barometer is out of whack. I’m guessing Bob called her, and then she couldn’t figure out how to get out of the situation Or how to explain why she was with you. Or maybe she was just looking for him to rescue her. Who knows. But I do agree that you probably would be wise speaking to a lawyer.

Sadly this happens more than you think. It just goes to show why you don’t jump into bed with somebody on the same day you meet them. This could very well have been a lesson hard learned. If you had slept with her, you would be up shits creek for sure.

Going forward, take a woman out on a few dates and get to know them + figure out if they are a psychopath first. Quite honestly, you might’ve had a little fun that night but then spent an entire lifetime being labeled as a sexual predator which means no job, jail time, and a shitty life. We all have known “that” guy in college, because these bat-shit women are all around us. You’re fucking lucky that she admitted on tape that she lied. Typically it doesn’t go down like that.

[–]mrpthrowa26 points27 points  (0 children) | Copy

white knight, I have no time for a female “friend” who calls me because she made some poor decisions through the night, much less outright lie which is what 99% of these cases are. If she was in danger she would dial 999.

[–]satlinrabbow22 points23 points  (6 children) | Copy

If your female friend called you and said the same, you would come to her defense

Only if I were a faggot. Women can call their own police and take care of themselves, they dont need a "man" to do it for them. so no. I WOULDNT come to her defense.

Sidebar more, post less.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Would you have done it when you were still blue pilled?

[–]whitepois0n-5 points-4 points  (4 children) | Copy

What if it was your girlfriend? Would you still not come to her defense?

[–]Hyper_Sonik5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

First of all, if your girlfriend is going to parties and doing stuff with other guys then you're an idiot and second, you need to learn to not take what women say at first value. Before you come.to a conclusion use some critical thinking and ask logical questions.....

[–]mrpthrowa4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

Faggot what’s your girlfriend doing at someone’s place half naked in the middle of the night?

[–]whitepois0n-2 points-1 points  (1 child) | Copy

Man. It just a hypothetical. If you your girlfriend called saying someone raped her. I can't imagine I would be the most level headed person.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Your hypothetical is dumb because it requires you to presume that your girlfriend, who was getting drunk somewhere without limits, is in a room somewhere with some stranger by herself and didn’t have the presence of mind to ask her friends to watch her, should be automatically believed because she’s a sweet angelic damsel who did nothing wrong.

If your girlfriend calls you when she was supposed to be at work but somehow got kidnapped and ended up in a strangers room, you fucking run straight to wherever she is no questions asked.

If your girlfriend calls you because shes went to a party with alchohol and ended up in a strange dudes room by herself “by accident” like this situation, first question is wtf?

It’s your kind of dumbass white knight mentality that allow women to get away with shit like this.

[–]W_O_M_B_A_T5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

I really don’t think you can blame Bob here. If your female friend called you and said the same, you would come to her defense.

Cringe. This is the beta white knight response.

The alpha response is to tell her go police or go the fuck home, maybe call her a cab if you're feeling generous. Under no circumstances should you swoop in guns loaded, because if she's not willing to call the police, it didn't happen.

Even if it did you can't help people who are unwilling to help themselves.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The point is, most people aren't alphas and wouldn't react in that way. You can hardly blame a beta for acting like a beta if they've never known any other way to act.

[–]Glennus6264 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Ya but there was a moment when Bob and him get into it, he calls the cops, then she admits she faked it before the cops came. As soon as they get there he makes an accusation even tho he's aware she lied.

The guy is veritable scum, and clearly wants top beta orbiter status.

[–]Bedtimeshine2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

And security cameras. I invested in those a long time ago. Even in my bed room.

[–]SalporinRP0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Best advice in this thread. Luckily this girl said you two just kissed to the cops and it's on video so you should be fine but get a lawyer. It might be 100-150 bucks for a consultation but it will be worth every penny I guarantee it.

[–][deleted] 28 points29 points  (1 child) | Copy

Do not say a word to anyone. Do not talk to the university admin. Get a lawyer.

[–]thisislife45640 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

if u refuse the appt with the title 9 ppl they throw their book at you

[–]GrinninGremlin36 points37 points  (11 children) | Copy

Install hidden cameras in your bedroom to prevent future he said/she said bullshit.

As for current POS...hire a defamation attorney. She accused you of a crime to "Bob" with no evidence. That is "defamation per se" and does not require a showing of damage to prevail.

Act quickly before it snowballs out of control. Once litigation is initiated against her, school officials will be more hesitant to jump into the frey...not that they won't, but that they will at least pause to think instead of reactively declaring you guilty by accusation.

[–]razeeqlfc 1 points [recovered]  (5 children) | Copy

Wouldn’t it be easier if you have proof in video? Or is recording without consent illegal?

[–]GrinninGremlin41 points42 points  (1 child) | Copy

is recording without consent illegal?

Nothing known only to yourself is illegal. Hardwire the cameras into a separate (non-networked computer system) ... no wifi interception or hacking possible. Only release videos to your defense attorney after a criminal case has been filed against you. Your attorney will be required to release videos to prosecutor under reciprocal discovery...meaning you are not liable for publication...and more importantly, under 5th Amendment protection against self incrimination, can not be forced to disclose info about videos.

Worse case situation...you get prosecuted for illegal recording...but have more serious rape charge dropped.

[–]FKaroundNfindOUT3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is likely the most valuable comment any of us will read this year. Thanks.

[–]CharlesChadworth9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

Your home your rules. Nothing forbids you from having security cameras. Even if it was illegal to record it, I would still record as it would clear you.

Get in trouble for recording, or get in worse trouble for a false rape case. You choose.

[–]flapjacksrbetter2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

There is one party consent in some states

[–]Charlie_007-2 points-1 points  (2 children) | Copy

I would be real careful installing hidden cameras in your bedroom that you plan to record your interactions with girls. This probably isn’t even legal in most states.

[–]GrinninGremlin22 points23 points  (1 child) | Copy

Yes, careful would be why you don't use a network or wifi system for cameras. Because if videos get out, then you have a legal problem

BUT

If you already have a legal problem...such as a false rape accusation, then you have to consider that the penalty for recording is less than the penalty for being falsely convicted of rape. Indisputably it can cause a problem, but if you never ever let the videos get released except as a defense to false rape...then you can't be prosecuted for what no one except you yourself are aware of.

Its sad that our legal system is so inept that it forces illegal activity to defend oneself, but that's just where we are at.

[–]BittyMitty2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Finally someone gets it.

[–]BurnoutRS17 points18 points  (0 children) | Copy

"steer clear of parties and alcohol to avoid these situations"

Dont worry kids, we're gonna ensure that everything fun has so many potential consequences that even thinking about it isnt worth it.

Society heaves a collective sigh of defeat and returns to the masturbatorium

[–]Merica91121 points22 points  (12 children) | Copy

This might be unpopular to ask but how did the situation go from Sally friend asking you to take her home to her laying on your bed an hour later?

Do you see what I'm getting at? Because it wasn't meant to be.. Out of tons of girls I've took home it never diverted like a situation like that. It was always clear for beginning to end that the intent was to be in my bed, unfortunately not your situation.

You did NOT do any leg work as far as making her completely comfortable in going home with you, it was you suppose to Sally friend a favor and bring her home. It was not no slick way so Sally could get to know you.

If you would of put the leg work at the party, even just for 20 minutes, she could build trust in you and figure it be cool to go home with you, but instead YOU eye fucked her in the party.

The problem is YOU try to build repor while when you were supposed to bring her home so instead to bring her to your home because that's what YOU wanted. And too tell you the truth, even if it was cool as far as how the situation got diverted to your place instead, you probably should of tooken more time before escalating. Probably in that situation should have her do some escalating at your house to 100% know she was DTF.

Look. Whoopie doo that she asked you get food for her. Doesn't mean she was totally comfortable with you. Girls stay asking men to do shit for them on the daily doesn't mean that going to be a solid close. And I'm not completely sure she was eye fucking you like you say she was doing in the party. What are you going to tell the court that? "Well we didn't talk at all but her eyes said she wanted to come home with me"

Bro. Do you see what I'm getting at? I'm not trying to shit on you. I'm just trying to point out in the future you gotta seal the deal a lot fucking better than what happen that night. Yeah hearing the story I wouldn't guess it was going to take a U turn like that but it did.

Either way, you didn't rape her and she knows that you didn't but she knows that. But you did not do the full leg work in getting her to lay in your bed in how she did.

I don't care if she agreed to go home with you while already in your car. She probably thought if she said no that you would probably do some bad shit on the spot or even leave her on the side of the road. The report of you was not fully built with her that night. It wouldn't kill you from how the party situation panned out if you just get her number and build from there.

[–]GrinninGremlin8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

What are you going to tell the court that?

Good point...you not only have to consider what really happened, but how it will look in hindsight to others who weren't there.

[–]bestCallEver10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

The word you're looking for is rapport.

[–]pag_el2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

What's your point here? Do you need to hear the words of consent to fuck a girl? Never had a ONS? Girls wanting to fuck a guy they dont know is nothing new, I think OP did good except for talking with beta Bob. Fucking a random girl is always a risk.

You did NOT do any leg work as far as making her completely comfortable in going home with you

She obviously felt comfortable. He asked where she wanted to go, she said to his place. She got the tingles and acted on it, but had LMR and obviously a fat feminist cockblocking friend on the phone.

[–]Merica9112 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

I thought I make my point clear..

Because it was only a ride home via her friend asking the best he should of done was ask for her number. BUTTTTTTT if SHE initiated to his crib, that would be a different story. Girls I've took from bars, clubs etc initiated right there and then that they would be going to my house. I never diverted a plan drop off to her own house but to only go to mine.

Do you need to hear the words of consent to fuck a girl?

First off, he didn't even fuck her and looks at the shit strom he went through for a kiss.

And second, unfortunately 2019 you need a bit more reassurance.

I'm sorry but there's a lot of gaps in the sexual end part of the OP story even though 4/5th of his story he was detailed as shit to the point I felt like I was reading a novel.

She Obviously felt comfortable

OK then what happened? What happened to make her felt so uncomfortable that she fucking jumped out the bathroom window? Remember actions speakers more truth then words. Whether it was in the car or the crib, she clearly didn't feel comfortable.

I'm sorry but all the years shaking up that never once happen to me but I've seen it happen to friends and I know the reason why it did because of pushy weird diversion shit like this.

And even if the friend called her up which I doubt (I'm sure Sally text her to tell her to call her) and Sally said I'm totally fine I'm just at the OP house.. Do you really think her friend was going to tell her parents on her that she's gonna on night stand from a dude she just met? No.

Again. If she was DTF all this would never happen

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

OK then what happened?

dude anything can happen in a (crazy) chick's head. Some actually have several people in there competing for airtime and vying for control. You dont even need to assume a fat feminist friend on the phone for her behavior to have turned around like that.

Your point about him not having prepared the bedding properly still stands well on its own though. He would have spotted other sides of her if he had taken more time to know her before going for the kill.

[–]TRPKaty 1 points [recovered]  (6 children) | Copy

I did do leg work to make her comfortable. We spent 20min trying to find my car. In that time we were talking, getting to know each other, etc. She was asking me about my major, job, etc. She was extremely comfortable coming back to my place especially since she was the one who suggested it. At the party I did talk to her and meet her when I first arrived.

[–]GrinninGremlin2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

We spent 20min trying to find my car.

Does that parking lot have security cameras? Was she stumbling/falling drunk? Were the two of you holding hands?

What "story" would that video (if it exists) tell to some observer who didn't know what happened?

[–]htbf4 points5 points  (4 children) | Copy

That's small talk, not escalation or flirting.

[–]TRPKaty 1 points [recovered]  (3 children) | Copy

We were flirting, I was escalating and applying kino. She was showing high levels of interest and flirting back. I also utilized push/pull strategies. The rapport and build up was there.

[–]Startlivingfornow6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

I think what he’s getting at, is that it’s your word against hers as everything happened privately.

If you had escalated at the party/people had seen you flirting you’d then have a back up.

In this case, as fucked up as it is, you’re really lucky Sally told the truth and hopefully she sticks to that version of the story.

This should all blow over but take the necessary legal precautions and save that video just in case.

[–]Hjalmbere1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Assuming this isn’t a troll post: You seem to at least have been superficially acquainted with this girl prior to the party. Any obvious red flags such as excessive social media attention whoring, intersectional feminism, mental issues, self-harm, and/or substance abuse?

Sometimes the signs are all there, but the lower head tells the upper head no to interfere. You had a close call.

[–]machiavellianlaws5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

The only thing more dangerous than a manipulative unstable girl, is the insecure unstable white knight orbiter on her side. Holy fuck dude, good luck king

[–]Ndock4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

The insanity of women is part of what keeps me from putting in the effort to fuck with 8/9s. I'm a 6.5/7 so those are within reach, but I feel like half of them are bat shit.

Like these hot girls with no frame that just want to feel doted on and validated, they do whatever they think they can to get their way. She was incapable of just saying "I'm really sorry, but I actually wanna go"?

How do you guys deal with this shit? I figure it's worth the lays in between?

[–]Velebit0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I just had a conversation with a girl who told me she loved me a month ago (she lost interest in the meantime and is slow fading it) and now she was unable to say she lost interest despite me literally saying that and saying it is ok and only asking for her to confirm. She is like 'no comment'.

Many females are catastrophicaly cowardly and I feel like evolution did a shitty job on that.

[–]thy_shall_win0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Try it instead of assuming, I think you'd be surprised.

[–]babybopp5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

I was going for mother goose but turns out it is even worse, an orbiter.

The same shit happened to me. We went to Mexico and this gal I knew came onto me. Went to my room. Lucky didn't smash. White knight who loves her but gets none, calls her boyfriend. He had been stalking her all night. She starts getting calls. Scared shitless. By morning I was taking advantage of a drunk girl when she is the one who came on to me. She flipped her story. I completely ruled that girl out of my life.

[–]circlhat4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

as someone who went though this , get a tape recorder, a lawyer can't do shit, but take your money. I find it so odd that the police won't write a report on her lie, which is why you need a recorder 24/7, any decent cellphone can record the entire night, and backed it up to the cloud automatically. Simply push a button at the start of a party. Also get text savers, where your text are backed up to the cloud

[–]GrinninGremlin0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

get a tape recorder,

Oddly enough, the laws about recording others are generally more restrictive about audio than video.

[–]Bedtimeshine4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Bob is her boyfriend. This is easy to explain bro. Don’t be scared to drop the bomb of evidence if she tries to ruin your reputation. She had time to wash her face and engage in 2 multi-minute phone calls during your attack? riiiight. I would have calmly explained that you bob. “Look at her face, you see any running makeup? Because she washed it off before getting naked, and putting on my jacket and getting into bed with me. Why do you think her clothes are on the floor in the same bathroom she “escaped” from?”

[–]Nergaal2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I’m reluctant because alcohol has been involved. Sally assures me it will be ok.

You failed to be honest with yourself. You knew this girl was trouble and you fully accepted the consequences when you agreed.

[–]Totsean5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

And that's why I always pay after sex. Even with normal girls, I give them some form of money, could be taxi fare or something to eat.

Covers my ass.

[–]GrinninGremlin1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Covers my ass.

Or makes you look like you were feeling guilty and trying to "make up" for something?

The act of paying can be subject to a "spin" in either direction.

[–]Totsean0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

In Philippines, rape accusations aren't something I would take lightly. Paying them off is a lesser crime. They kinda expect it here so its cool.

[–]TheBlackAlistar3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'll say something I don't see anyone else saying. Sally was just jealous as fuck and was using this as a way to get at you. You say you walked around talked with people. Did you say anything at all to her? Other spot I saw was how she seemed butthurt when you joked about having makeup remover. Just my 2 cents.

[–]006rbc1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Sally should be getting a trip to jail for starting that bullshit.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is why as a bi dude, I prefer men.

[–]bear2dbone1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'm sorry this happened to you Ive heard horror stories like this before. The lesson hear is you should not have taken home a drunk/partially drunk girl with so much on the line. Somethings in life you can't change, deal with it best you can and never make that mistake again. Why do I get the feeling you would do this again.

[–]2INNASKILLZ2K181 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

What in THE fuck? I was relieved for you, bro, when I read Sally admitted she was a bitch.

Like seriously, get the fuck outta her. I wouldn't worry, man. I know your head is going to catastrophize, but I'm sure you'll be fine.

This Sally bitch probably doesn't want anything getting around. Maybe she called her boyfriend, and he called back, so she jetted. She probably realised she left her stuff, and of course couldn't call the boyfriend. So she gets the white knight orbiter fuckwit, and makes up a story to cover her ass.

Be glad you didn't stick your dick in crazy. Even if they DID try to 'extort' you, which I highly doubt, yes it's defamation. You can lawyer up, and you have the police report that she did nothing. You've nothing to worry about.

[–]geo_gan2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

So the police didn’t arrest her for making a false rape accusation? Why not? Is this the double standard and pussypass again? And by blue-pulled white knight officers it seems...

[–]SalporinRP5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

Because she didn't actually fully make the accusation. No report was filed.

The worst she could get charged with is 911 abuse but police are never gonna waste time charging a half-naked girl with 911 abuse in a situation like that where police just showed up, had a civil 10 minute conversation, and then left.

[–]htbf0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

They shouldn't charge her either but a stern verbal get-your-shit-together would be nice.

[–]DeusVictor0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Because she didn’t make a accusation it was her white knight that’s escalated the situation the person at fault is the dude not the girl.

[–]SICFJC1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

The girl admitted she lied. Why the fuck did you even post this.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

His college can still fire him over it. She admitted it to the cops but she can still change her tune the next day at college for extra attention. She can even go back to the police and claim he raped her this time around. She's not even accountable for having called the cops as she has mindcontrolled her beta orbiter in doing it for her.

[–]0io-0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

No charges filed because this is bullshit and she's on the record saying nothing happened. Forget about it and move on.

[–]yes_kid0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

So, Bob is probably her beta white knight who she hooked up with once. Or maybe her providerbeta boyfriend. He beefed her about something so she made up a rape story to cover her sluttiness.

[–]yes_kid0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Give us an update.

[–]JW_20 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I’m sorry you went through this if true, but I just feel like you aren’t telling the full story. I dunno.

[–]pohanyx0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

So, no head?

[–]mrpoopistan0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The police tell me that I’m not being charged or arrested because Sally admitted nothing happened

That's a long story for fuckin nothing.

Hope you got the cops names, because the police report would be the lynchpin of any potential case.

FTR, nothing's going to happen.

[–]justnicepersonhater0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

wow, Bob, Sally and Josh should face death sentence

fucking women lmao. she saw your ig and noticed youre 'perfect' and everything was hanged to her on plate, then she called police on u

[–]ilovevidya0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Lots of bad advice here. I seriously doubt it's going to go around your school, but if it does then just tell people she made it up, you have video don't you? What's the big deal? Stop being a pussy.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

[–]ilovevidya0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

???

By the way I am literally being investigated right now under false allegations. OP said he has video of the encounter with the police, and the girl admitted it was bullshit. Writing a 50 page essay on the subject thereafter is stupid as fuck, this guy just wanted to tell a story and it was shit. If he's genuinely worried then he's a pussy, own your shit. If one girl going around making a false accusation tears your whole being down then you have fucked up somewhere.

[–]Atheist_Utopia0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Wait why the fuck did she kiss you twice, then run away to her BF? It doesn't make sense.

[–]GrinninGremlin11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

Wait why the fuck did she kiss you twice, then run away to her BF? It doesn't make sense.

You expect logic from the mind of a woman? Surely, you jest.

[–]Frebaz2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I think she was fine, until the white knight called and asked her where she is, defense got turned on. She made up a story that he forced her snd she will try to leave. Second time, she jumped cause fuck I didn’t do what my knighty boy told me, I’ll just leave and tell him I had to run that’s why it took me too long (Thank god there was a shared bathrooom lol)

That’s my opinion, I might be wrong.

But the real question is: How dafak did you let her eat in ur bed!! :(

[–]mrpthrowa4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Sudden anti slut defends

[–]RedpilledChris0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Dude if you were falsely accused and are a good standing student I would talk to the dean or someone. Present yourself as someone who deeply respects women and their choices and that you feel awful someone would even consider you would be capable of raping. Ask for help si THAT gets on your file.

In that way if this ever comes back to bite you you can present that as precedent of your good standing.

Finally, I always ask for consent by jokily using my phone to record us both laying on bed and kissing - telling her sexual things in a light mood. Girls love this because they love to see their faces next to alpha guys, and they think I’ll post something to IG or SC. That helps me a lot.

[–]WarriorMonkMode0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

There's effectively nothing you can do but engage in your own whisper campaign with your own friends stating how she attempted to force herself on you and you turned her down.

The police also lied to you, a report was made. Any time they respond to a call a ticket is opened.

Thank your lucky stars that she didn't get you arrested. Thank your lucky stars.

Stop going to college parties and picking up random girls.

[–]dmi_30 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Must be a troll

[–]Gruss_p0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

What is only great thing about accusation: you objectively know that you are not high SMV. If you would be Chad, she would GLADLY take it second time, third time... so no accusation. You are probably short or you have ugly face. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/you-are-less-beautiful-than-you-think/

[–]GiraffeOnWheels0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

This is retarded, and you're an idiot with an extra sprinkling of autism.

[–]Gruss_p0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Right, much easier is to take a bluepill and blame everyone else.

[–]GiraffeOnWheels2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

This can happen to attractive people as well. Bitches are crazy. Keep your dick away from anything that crazy, or else.

[–]Flpgneves0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Put cameras on your apartment AND in your bedroom. You can use your on equipment to control it and keep what they record, no security company or anything.

You will always have video evidence on your side.

I did that myself to avoid false rape accusations.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I can't find the post now but I remember on the main sub how there was a story of a Carribean student studying in the UK who got accused falsely of sexual assault, and his SMV went through the roof.

My experience has been similar. Never let it get to a police level though, but prepare to have more pussy then you've ever had before.

[–]reddituser11030 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

These foids get away with everything, that white knight trying to get you arrested too, fucking pathetic society we live in

[–]Zanford0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

As soon as you got to the 'phone call in the bathroom' part my spidey sense said 'boyfriend or parents wondering where she is'. And needless to say her behavior is very weird even for that.

Thank your fucking lucky stars Sally ultimately told the truth. She had your entire life in her hands at that moment. I'm guessing what happened is Bob is a white knight orbiter and Sally accidentally told him enough that she become worried that her boyfriend/parents would find out, and he asked her leading questions to convince himself you did something. Basically they conspired to frame you but then Sally got cold feet about lying to cops and came clean.

You were very smart about getting Tasha to record. You were kinda dumb for fighting Bob and talking to him without already recording. In the paragraph "Right after..." it sounds like Sally came clean to Bob before the police arrive, but then Bob STILL claimed something happened to the police?

Bob is a piece of shit of course. He tried to get you locked up, maybe prison-raped, and completely ruin your reputation with your family and everyone, and your career. Never forget. Never forgive.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Thank your fucking lucky stars

she only did that because OP held strong frame in front of the cops and the betacuck Bobfriend to the point that her story was starting to make her look bad. She just covered her exit routes. If OP had reacted weakly she'd have stuck to her lies. Truth has no value to women, nor do other people really exist in their minds.

[–]Zanford0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I bet you're right. If he'd spazzed out "ohhhh noo I'm a nice guy I would never do that" he might be in jail.

[–]BluBlac590 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

There are men that think their girlfriend is so special that she would never have sex with anyone one else. And if she did the rotten bastard took advantage of her because she had been drinking is somehow tricked her into it. You see, she has no mind or desire of her own. He doesn't understand this because he's a pussy beggar. He's white knighting to save her reputation and to keep her unspoiled by the likes of you. Pretty sad, his anger is misplaced because he can't believe that his princess would be so smutty. It happens. It looks like you going to get out easy. Stand tall and don't try to explain it to the dumb. Get a lawyer and explain what happened. You need to get into front of this and be prepared to fight. And a GOOD private investigator ( retired cop PI) to get everyone's statements. Good luck.

[–]3chazthundergut0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

You say a prayer of gratitude to the universe that she told the truth and this didnt turn into a legal battle and jail time.

You cut out the crazies in your life who outed themselves.

And you proceed as usual dont let a close call prevent you from meeting and fucking women. And continue to he careful.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

he clearly wasnt careful enough, if anything can be learned from this experience.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Sue Bob and Sally for libel, slander, defamation and intentional infliction of emorional distress.

[–]GrinninGremlin0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

libel

Where did you see anything about the accusation being written or published?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Find out in discovery.

[–]GiraffeOnWheels-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Don't worry about your reputation, one crazy bitch probably won't do much damage. One of my exes talks that kind of shit and all the girls I know now roll their eyes and tell me about it later. That's high level crazy and people can see that.

[–]mysticplaces-4 points-3 points  (1 child) | Copy

You sound like an absolute fucking idiot for involving yourself in such a situation. As for your remarks: “top university”, “hard STEM major”, “an entire future ahead of you”, “guaranteed job”, you can keep pipe dreaming. Also learn how to spell while you’re at this “top university” (accusesed). If you had even a slight amount of intelligence you wouldn’t be seeking the advice of strangers.

[–]GrinninGremlin-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

You are trying too hard to find fault with the story.

Even if it were false (which I don't have evidence to support) the story is still a worthwhile possibility to consider. It can be used as an opportunity to contemplate what might be the best way to deal with such a situation if it did occur...and an opportunity to hear input from other people on how they might handle it.



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