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Why do so many girls try to “break me?”

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February 19, 2019

I’ve noticed a weird trend lately in the women I meet, date, befriend, etc. They all try to break me down and test me. They’ll do things to try and make me jealous (e.g., parading other guys’ text messages/social media DMs in front of me) or prod at me with weird dismissive comments to try and put me down. The weird part is they’re always on my dick constantly hitting me up to hang out, hook up, etc., and yet they’ll still try to throw verbal jabs at me for no reason.

It doesn’t make any fuckin sense, if they’re interested enough to constantly want to see me and fuck me, why do they keep testing me? It’s so annoying because these girls really think they’re slick and assume I don’t notice it, but I do. I always check em on it and I obviously never show that it affects me, but fuck man it’s irritating.

Sometimes I wonder if playing these annoying mental chess games with these thots is even worth the 20 minutes of vaginal/anal penetration anymore 🙄.

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Title Why do so many girls try to “break me?”
Author Narcissist456
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Date 19 February 2019 09:08 AM UTC (2 years ago)
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[–]Endorsed Contributormonsieurhire2172 points173 points  (73 children) | Copy

They are testing you to see if you are weak.

If you act weak, you fail. If you act strong, you pass.

Then they test you again, just to make sure you didn't go soft.

Acting weak, or hinting that you are weak leads to more tests. Weak can be anything don't like, things associated with weakness, or actual weakness.

They are terrified that you will go soft on them at key points in their lives, and they don't want to get stuck with a lemon.

[–]GGrub884 points85 points  (36 children) | Copy

Don't they realize that with all this shit testing they hurt themselves in the long run?

Sure they can ensure they have a "strong" man, but said strong man will eventually get tired of putting up with their crap and dump them for someone less annoying.

Nobody likes a confrontational woman.

They also fail to realize that a man can fail a shit test because he didn't want to sound rude, but he can hold his shit together when something serious happens.

[–]AloofusMaximus71 points72 points  (20 children) | Copy

Most men deal horribly with shit tests because they're not congruent (ie they're faking it). If you've never actually struggled, failed, or faced real're not going to be Billy badass.

Most Western men are also raised in a coddled/overprotected state so it's really no surprise.

After a while you won't even think about shit tests or give a shit.

[–]IStriveForRedemption19 points20 points  (0 children) | Copy

True. Also try living with constant voices in your head trying to put you down but you face them everyday. Shit tests are a joke then

[–]WayneNolting13 points14 points  (18 children) | Copy

Indeed. This is where the typical advice of spin more plates, do more cool shit in your life, and get in the gym and lift bro will help you to give less fucks. While giving less fucks, you will hardly ever even notice the shit tests anymore. Tough love here, you're just weak if this shit bothers you. Get stronger (mentally, financially, and physically). Read books, specifically RP.

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (3 children) | Copy

What you must do, I think, is realize that those hoes aren't worth shit. What does it matter if they think you are congruent or not? Who do they think they are, what have they ever achieved in their lives to judge you? By actually becoming the man they want you are making a mistake, you are playing into their own game. This isn't to say you shouldn't improve yourself; you should. But for yourself, not for them. People who never achieved anything can't properly judge value, they can only judge appearances.

[–]SkankHuntL895 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

That last sentence is fucking gold mate. Bang on.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Thanks. The easiest people to bs are the kinds of people who never achieved anything, don't know anything, aren't good for anything but think knowledge and self-improvement are for fools (this is just a cope, it's easy to look smart and like you have everything all figured out when you never try); the reason is that these people don't logic, so they judge everything by appearances.

Most women of course fit in this group. They live in a world of appearances where value is defined not by what you achieve, but what you can convince people of. It's all just laziness.

[–]WayneNolting3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy


[–]GGrub82 points3 points  (13 children) | Copy

Tough love here, you're just weak if this shit bothers you.

Disagree. I don't think I'm weak for believing that some girl who just met me isn't in position to criticize my life style, aesthetics or social status, especially when they're the product of sweat and blood. I know it's a shit test and I need to answer accordingly, but something like that just shouldn't be taken for granted. The right thing should be her shutting the hell up, be pleasant and politely ask after she has earned that right. That would be a demonstration of femininity and grace, something men love in girls.

Just like they shame us for our male instincts, they should be shamed for this crappy attitude, whether it's justified by biology or it's just a sense of entitlement they got from third wave feminism.

I will still play this dumb game because the alternative would be appearing as a loser, but I'll never blindly accept it as "what should be".

[–]WayneNolting3 points4 points  (12 children) | Copy

I don't disagree with your thoughts or feelings here, I'm just saying you need the strength to put her in her place, and do so without getting butt hurt in front of her. Amused Mastery or whatever. Dumb thots are going to test you whether they have earned that right or not.

[–]Biggdog220 points1 point  (8 children) | Copy

So is it wrong to call A bitch out? I’ve read it is and isn’t. But when I get tested to shit after a long day of squatting and traininjng bjj the last thing I wana do is hear from nagging thot I’ve banged twice. It makes me want to tell them to shut the fuck up. Is that wrong?

[–]WayneNolting1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

I think the question is, can you do it while being funny / cocky. That is can you creatively call her out without being butthurt. You'll be simultaneously putting her in her place, which she actually wants, and proving to her that you're strong enough to take the shit test. Does that make sense? It kills 2 birds with one stone.

[–]Biggdog220 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Somewhat. If you could provide an example that’d be awesome. Every time I try to put a thot in her place I come off as a dick. Like telling them they act like a little girl

[–]WayneNolting0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

One time I met up for a burger with an old friend I used to snowboard with. At this point I was 8/10 into my marriage, and she was shit testing me regularly.

We were standing outside and my friend was admiring my new truck. We were having a great dinner, catching up, and I was actually feeling good for a minute. She was sitting off to the side pouting about some bullshit when he said "Sweet truck, 350 or 454"? As my mouth began to open she quickly jumped in to interrupt and said "He wouldn't fucking know". It caught me so off guard that I had to pause for a minute before answering. I was so visibly angry with her, both of them knew it, and things like this were getting deeper under my skin at the time. (For the record I did know, because I spent my childhood rebuilding cars, unlike this bitch who hasn't built shit her entire life.)

Afterwards, I yelled at her in the car "Don't ever fucking emasculate me in front of my fucking friends ever fucking again you fucking bitch". But by doing so, I failed... hardcore. What I should have said, without even batting an eye is something like "It's a 454, it's easy to remember because it's what I squat, unlike these scrawny weak little arms" pointing to her arms (or some shit like that, you get the point). The bigger point is, it genuinely can't visibly bother you. In fact, if you were spinning plates, lifting, reading books, and improving your own life / options instead of worrying about some dumb bitch it really doesn't bother you.

Right now, I'm lifting 3-4 days per week, and I have four different chicks in the rotation. Nothing any of them say or do bothers me anymore, because I always have options. For the first time in my life, I can say I don't give a fuck and mean it.

[–]WayneNolting0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Something I've really had to work on personally is my witty comebacks, otherwise I always ended up with the classic George Costanza "That's what I should have said".

[–]WayneNolting0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Also, women are not going to shit test you when you're feeling good. They're always going to test you the most when they can tell you're stressed out. For what it's worth, if you ever decide to get married because you think it's going to get easier, it won't, it only gets worse.

[–]Biggdog220 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

So true. A chick I banged shit tested me next time we chilled and she could tell It annoyed me. Needless to say we got in an arguement all night and I never saw her again. Smh I probly would of just laughed it off but ever since I found out about shit tests I get annoyed by em. I used to not give af

[–]omega_dawg930 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

plus it's a biological thing... they're gonna test without even knowing it acknowledging they're doing it.

it's just in them. want pussy? then you have to play that game.

[–]WayneNolting0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Yep. There's a couple of chapters of just this in The Rational Male. Dudes get married because they think the game is going to become easier, but it gets harder because you have fewer options, and therefore it's much harder to not give a fuck or hide it when something is bothering you. Being married is literally a prisoner's dilemma in Economic Game Theory, look it up. At no point are you ever on the same team. The only way to drive both players to the best possible equilibrium for the family unit is for the male to exert strength in the relationship. Most soyboys these days don't have the fortitude to do that.

[–]omega_dawg930 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

married game is another entirely different "animal."

things change drastically bc society, the law (including cops) and the court of public opinion are all on her side.

she's innocent even when she's guilty. as a man you're born guilty. "just give up the $$ and go away... until i need semen or protection" is basically the deal.

[–]alphabachelor12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy

Don’t they realize...

My theory is shit testing like this is legacy code from our caveman days.

Back then, there was no police, court system, social services, etc.

The only thing determining that a woman could feel safe instead of being raped and enslaved was a strong alpha male.

Same thing goes for us. Why do we want to fuck multiple women, even when we’re in a relationship with a great woman. It’s because multiple women means multiple kids and multiple kids with multiple grandkids. That means your tribe will be larger than the rest and your bloodline will be able to secure and defend nearby resources. Which is why we still today tribalism in the 2nd and 3rd world where strong institutions are not present.

When you view human behavior through the lens of evolutionary biology, a lot of it makes sense. While no longer needed today, it’s going to take a while to break a 2 million year habit.

[–]Endorsed Contributormonsieurhire25 points6 points  (3 children) | Copy

I'm pretty sure that the vast majority of them, if not all of them shit-test. The difference is, you won't see it if it's not your woman. So, you'll see some woman who is in a relationship in public, and she's all on her best behavior because of her public image, and also her ego is being inflated by the validation of being in an LTR. And she'll be nice to you, so you'll think, oh, what a catch. But then she'll maybe bash her LTR to you, or even worse, she'll shit on him in front of you, either directly with a verbal put-down, or indirectly by ignoring him. Then, you'll be like, "holy shit, that could be me."

They ALL do it. They only ones that don't are the ones in poorly written Hollywood fantasy scripts.

They will do it less if you hold up your end of the bargain as a male partner.

For example, if you lose your job, get depressed, take to drink, etc., they will threaten to abandon you, then if you don't reform, like in a day, they will abandon you as soon as they can. If they see any of the warning signs that you are a fuck-up, they will begin making preparations to branch-swing. The exceptions would be if you are both young, good-looking, come from prosperous families, and the sex is good. In that case, they are addicted to the sex and can give you "time to mature." Otherwise, you will be dumped quickly. In the best-case scenario, they will discreetly explore other options or cheat on the sly.

If you are bringing home a lot of money, lift, wear nice clothes, they will still shit-test you, but it will be a different kind. They will want to suck up more of your time, but then paradoxically, if you give them more time, they will accuse you of smothering them. They'll demand more stuff, or more expensive stuff. They'll act insecure and suspicious. They may even think you are going to cheat on them or leave them, so they might even threaten to leave you, or if they are really nuts, they'll actually start an affair out of paranoia. That's because, since you are high value, the danger is real that some other woman or women will try to poach you. But paradoxically, if you capitulate too much to their demands, then they are controlling you, and then you are weak. The way to pass is to just shrug it all off, and try to avoid the worst of it, and occasionally reassure them, and hope they grow more secure in the relationship. But you do have to weather their BS. But, it's kind of like a little kid. Little kids can't help their irrational tantrums much, and you don't hold it against them when they behave irrationally. So, you kind of have to treat the woman the same way. You have to bemusedly humor her occasionally, but mostly tune it out.

[–]mrrooftops0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy


[–]Endorsed Contributormonsieurhire23 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Nah, you are a lot less fucked if you realize what is going on, come to terms with it, and plan accordingly. There is no room for the weak, though, and perhaps that's a good thing. I mean, back in the good old days, they would just throw guys into a combat zone, a salt mine, a prison, a factory, or sacrifice them Aztec style. Today they have more refined, passive-aggressive ways of thinning the herd.

[–]mrrooftops0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy


[–]TheStumblingWolf10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's nature. Look at it from their point of view as quality control.

[–]awalt_cupcake3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Consider the fact they don't want to keep you around forever. They want your kid. After they have your kid, they can go back to the tribe to get help raising it knowing you'll maybe come around when the kid is older.

[–]Nitsujsith1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

you do realize that they aren’t even aware they are doing it a majority of the time and it also benefits the human race as a whole. Hypergamy made humans the smartest animal on the planet whether you like it or not

[–]W_O_M_B_A_T1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Don't they realize that with all this shit testing they hurt themselves in the long run?

Alpha fucks, beta bucks.

They're not hurting themselves, the supply of weak infantile followers is hardly limited.

[–]Narcissist4560 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Exactly this!

[–]VigilantSmartbomb0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I think it's cause they think they're the best thing in your life. Might want to up the playing field and let them find out about each other. Feel like this might help them stop testing but also up their own game? They shouldnt be the only ones testing

[–]kellykebab0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

There is definitely a small bias within some parts of the RP community where dudes vastly overrate the self-awareness and insight behind women's shit tests. Like men, some women are reasonably perceptive of others, and some are really atrocious at reading other people.

A shit test only tells you what one particular woman is like. It's not an "objective" mirror that will give you a perfect reading of how all women everywhere are going to view you.

Of course, if you find that you get shit tested constantly by every woman you interact with, then yeah, maybe you are a bit weak.

[–]EnlightenAllMankind0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I hear you dude, but in the long run it’s their biological imperative to shit test. Most women don’t mean to be obstinate, but they will if it means securing a strong mate. Don’t worry dude, one day you’ll hit your stride with one if you haven’t already.

[–]latinasonly-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

a real man tells her quit acting annoying or i aint gonna hang out with you no more if hes actually being annoyed.

dont wanna be rude in your response, " i wont be responding , because unlike you im not rude "

also , its important to respond in kind with the emotions of whatever sh*t shes throwing at you. if shes just playing around or being teasy aggressive, then you respond with "pretending to get mad " or a joke and you keep a positive vibe. however, if shes casting negative emotions at you , you tell her off in a serious way if need be .

[–]lnternetLiftingCoach10 points11 points  (15 children) | Copy

But how far should one be willing to accept and stand up with when it comes to being shit tested?

I have been dating this girl for a few weeks. From the second date and to the sixth date, she has mentioned several times on each date her number of sexual partners, her number of guys she has made out with, her Tinder matches, guys she has met on Tinder, guys with a similar ethnic/racial background as me who she has made out with, ex-boyfriends, etc. All this while telling me she is looking for something serious.

Where should one draw the line between a girl's gentle, well-meaning test of one's confidence and blatant disrespect? Or should this be an individual preference depending on whether you feel you have been disrespected enough? With regard to the aforementioned girl, I have ended things since our last date.

[–]Michael_Uchiha68 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah, good thing you left her. Nothing good comes from a chick like that.

I wonder how girls would react if the situation was reversed, with us guys subtly bragging about every chick we've ever been with (Tits, Ass, Physique, Crazy stories and all haha) ? I'm sure it'd crush their self-esteem.

[–]Eldudearino894 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

I always have engaged with them, and actually discuss the guys (assuming you are hitting it already). Use all that information towards red/green flags. Women love to talk use that information. Stay strong. It does get annoying sometimes.

[–]DickMystery4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

She's telling you she's a slut and then telling herself she isn't (anymore).

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It's almost as if she's teasing him into calling her a slut or treating her like one and yet if he doesn't, she will know he's lying.

[–]lnternetLiftingCoach0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah. I guess she had her “fun days” and now wants to settle. I suppose she chose me because I displayed certain beta traits, which I will be conscious of in the future.

[–]Narcissist4562 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

She sounds annoying and disrespectful.

[–]Endorsed Contributormonsieurhire22 points3 points  (7 children) | Copy

Eh, this isn't necessarily shit-testing, but more like ignorance and strategic idiocy on her part. Women should NEVER disclose their number of sexual partners. If the girl is a virgin the guy will think there is something wrong, unless she's in the 18-19 range, or however many partners she has had, it will be too many, or he'll compare himself. I mean, she can say that she's had a boyfriend and a fling or two, but anything beyond that is not going to be good PR. Also, she should never volunteer this information.

I think the reason volunteer this stuff is because they are brainwashed by the TV into thinking that men and women are equal, and that men desire women who act and think like what they perceive men to act and think like. So, women are attracted to guys with high lay counts, so they think that men will be attracted to women with high lay counts. I literally just had this experience, where the girl probably thought she was bragging to me about her "experience" and "desirability," but to me all she was doing was disqualifying herself for lacking impulse control and having incompatible values.

You mention that you have been "dating" this girl. Has it gotten physical yet? If you are at date 6 and there is no physicality, she may be wondering why you haven't made a move, and all this sex talk is her trying to tease out what your sexuality is.

[–]DakJev2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

100% nailed it bro. I can confirm. 4 Years ago, when I was 23, I was super oblivious to signs that a girl liked me. This 200-250 pound white chick gave me her number and hit on me hard bruh. She wasn't fat, she was PHAT. Anyways, I thought she just wanted to be friends. When we spoke on the phone, I was confused, kinda offended about her bragging about all these guys hitting on her. Told me about all these guys wanting to take her to places and going out with different guys. Kinda jokingly accused her of bragging but I still couldn't understand what was going on. Was she trying to make me jealous? I thought. That was not the case. After hanging out with her at her apartment, I could see that her whole life consisted of watching Netflix and playing video games all day. In hindsight, I can now understand she thought I was a player dude so she was trying to overinflate her value by telling me about all the guys interested in her. Females project what they find attractive in men, they think men will find attractive in women. Also, she tried turning the conversation sexual by telling me about all these condoms she had, even sending me a picture. I was beta af, so I was just massively turned off since I had no experience with women, but now I know that was her way of telling me to fuck her lmao. Long story short, she gave up on me since I didn't escalate at all.

[–]Endorsed Contributormonsieurhire21 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Right, non-escalation is the proper way of rejection. Laughing in their face, or any of the typical harsh ways women reject men would have possibly created social liability for you. In this case, she might just have spread a rumor nobody would have believed that you were "gay" for not wanting her.

[–]lnternetLiftingCoach1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

I agree with your observations and thoughts.

She has been very keen and intent on telling me about her sexual encounters. I believe this stems from insecurity, low self-esteem, and an alarming need for validation from her part. While women prefer men with sexual experience, to a certain degree, men favour women with sexual chastity, to a certain degree. For some reason, her preference for an experienced partner was projected on to me, which is probably why she has told me about these encounters.

I believe she tried to inflate her value by displaying the amount of attention she received from other men, not knowing it had the complete opposite effect by making me lose respect for her and by devaluing herself as a person. She clearly has values incompatible with mine, has an excessive and almost pathological need for validation, and is far beyond the possibility of pair bonding with anyone because of her n-count of +30 at 20 years of age. She even told me that sex feels meaningless to her. Once again, she was very keen on telling me all this information. Other than the first date, she has told me about her promiscuous past several times on each date that has followed since.

And yes, I have been dating her for a few weeks, and we had intercourse from the third date and onwards, which was also my first time. She is very intent on wanting something serious and I do not see any future with her whatsoever, which is why I have ignored her the past few weeks. Although she was my first time and she, objectively and on first hand, had everything that I look for in a long-term partner, her disrespect towards me, insecurity, self-esteem, and excessive and pathological need for validation combined with her sexual promiscuity and inability to pair bond is why I decided to call it quits.

[–]Endorsed Contributormonsieurhire21 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

Yup. It's sad. They are completely brainwashed now. I saw it in high school and in college. I think that she literally drove you away. She probably also thought that if she was honest and disclosed everything, you would respect that, which you could have in theory, had she LEARNED something from those experiences and grew as a person, which is theoretically possible.

[–]lnternetLiftingCoach0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

True. She definitely pushed me away and was unable to see the grave consequences of her actions, i.e. learn from her experiences, as you put it. It is an unfortunate, albeit inevitable trend in the West, and we can do nothing but sit and observe this degeneracy on the sidelines.

[–]Endorsed Contributormonsieurhire20 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Well, you can do several things:

  1. Don't participate in it;
  2. Find groups of people that don't participate in it;
  3. Shun people that participate in it;
  4. Organize people who either don't participate in it, or are on the borderlines;

  5. While it exists, it is not useful, IMO, to completely eradicate it; it is useful as a counterexample of how NOT to live; if it were prohibited, people would then clamor for it because they would have no direct experience or example of how it DOESN'T work; sad but true.

[–]lnternetLiftingCoach0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Oh, yes. I respect people’s integrity and autonomy with regard to making their own decisions. I just feel sorry that they have been conditioned to a lifestyle that will prove itself detrimental to finding a long-term partner, settling down, and falling in love.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Where should one draw the line between a girl's gentle, well-meaning test of one's confidence and blatant disrespect?

Shit tests are as gentle and well-meaning as checking some fruit you are about to buy for ripeness and quality. Being treated like a product doesn't seem respectful in any way. Just my opinion.

[–]Biggdog222 points3 points  (6 children) | Copy

It just doesn’t make sense that they test you if your weak if their interested. Why do we have to be so strong for them I mean some of these tests are pure shit to deal with for just having fucked once already

[–]Endorsed Contributormonsieurhire22 points3 points  (5 children) | Copy

It's their nature. They do it automatically. My mom has literally been on auto-shit-test to my dad every day of their marriage that I have been present. Every time I'm over there she's make threats. He just ignores it, smiles, laughs, or occasionally withdraws, or loses his temper. But mostly he shrugs it off. It doesn't affect his ability to carry on his life or complete his responsibilities. He eats healthy, lifts, makes money, takes care of what needs to be done, while she relentlessly harangues him that he isn't doing enough and she's tired, lol. But from his perspective, she's like comic relief. I still find her behavior disrespectful, and I call her out on it ALL the time. She actually treats me better than him. As soon as she starts in on me, I immediately nip it in the bud, so I actually get treated better. There's no malice on my end. I had many revelations that she is simply not dealing with a full deck and that her outbursts are not meant to be taken seriously. And it's not like she has a substance abuse problem or cheats or does anything anti-social. But she cannot control her emotions well and she frequently makes outbursts over nothing.

So anyway, they test you to see if you are weak or strong. "Weak" or "ignorant" men fail the shit test. They give up. They get discouraged. They stutter. They defend themselves. They get bogged down in arguments. The strong men either shrug and move on, or cut through the bullshit defenses to claim the woman if they want her badly enough. But once they get the woman, she will continually test them until death, because she doesn't want a weak man. Think of it this way: You get with a hot girl, you get into a relationship. Things get comfortable. Suddenly she starts eating a lot, putting on weight. At first you are fine because she's still hot, but then you start to get concerned. What is she turns into a smelly landwhale? So you start making comments... nudging her... questioning her.... It's unpleasant for her because maybe she's bluepilled and thinks you love her purely for intangible soul, and not her sweet can (you can love both, but it's easier if the can is sweet), so she gets defensive... but now she has a choice: continue being weak and risk getting dumped, or strengthen herself and be more disciplined. Some strong women will sometimes say, "Fuck you, I'm going to be a landwhale because it's my choice," and then YOU have a choice to make. Others will channel their strength into disciplining their bodies. Weak women will either not be able to control their bodies, or will only due it if you coerce them. If you have to coerce the girl into working out or eating right, you will lose respect for her, the same way a woman would be irritated at having to remind you to make money or make her feel special by lifting and fucking her right.

[–]Biggdog220 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

Yeah I get that. But isn’t their a line where it’s just like alright these shit tests are annoying and I don’t wana deal with it? So that makes you weak if you give up and stop dealing with shit tests?

[–]Endorsed Contributormonsieurhire20 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Well, it you cannot "deal" with a woman's shit-test, how are you going to be able to deal with a child's tantrum, a guy who is trying to mug you, your boss who won't give you a raise or a promotion, some adverse health event, a wild animal, contractors trying to rip you off, etc. etc. Yeah, it can be annoying and counter-productive, but how are else are they going to know if they have a good man or a lemon?

So, it's a balancing act. If you get angry and upset at her, that tells her how you will react in other situations. If you run away and avoid her, that also tells her something. If you calmly shrug it off most of the time, and then give her space to cool off to realize that she's overreacting and behaving irrationally, that also says something.

I mean, if she cheats on you, lies to you about something serious (not how many scoops of ice cream she had), steals your money, threatens to kill you (serious threat), threatens to have you arrested, incarcerated, sued, beaten up, etc. etc. Those aren't shit-tests, those are you need to GTFO of the relationship now events.

Shit-tests are the price you pay for being in a relationship. I have never read anyone on here write otherwise. The only question is frequency, severity, and how you deal with them.

Also, you can also just leave and find another woman, but at the end of the day, they all do it.

[–]Biggdog220 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

True. Thanks dog. So just shrug it off and don’t let it bug you. Makes sense if you can’t deal with women’s shit how are you Gona deal with other shit.

So best to just not react and keep it cool? I thought some women want to be put in their place?

So the worst thing to do on a shit test is get emotional and butt hurt?

[–]Endorsed Contributormonsieurhire20 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

It's best for your "action" of calm, non-emotional non-reaction to cue her to put herself into place, rather to have to actually say, "Bitch, calm the fuck down." Words activate the reflex to argue and oppose. Also, when I look back to my friendships with dudes, there was this one dude who would never waste his time trying to persuade me to do anything. If I wanted to go to the gym and lift with him, it was on me to make sure I was ready when he was ready. That basically put me in his frame, instead of him having to wait for my lazy man-child ass. There are some people that you wouldn't even THINK to disrespect because you hold them in such high esteem that you would not want to let them down. The trick is to emulate them and be them so that you get treated with the same respect.

[–]Biggdog220 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah I guess. Idk my frame has been shit since I found trp. Not blaming I’ve been getting laid a lot more but the shit tests get annoying. I was never even aware of the term before 1.5 years ago. Just thought all chicks were retarted and I’d laugh it off.

Now I’m reacting. Fuck me right

[–]jackandjill222 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

That sounds like too much work. Her sensibilities are annoying it sounds like more fun to make money.

[–]Endorsed Contributormonsieurhire20 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Making money = strength. We are in violent agreement. If a woman shit tests you, ignore and get back to making money. She'll come around, and if she doesn't, she can GTFO.

[–]AceMav210 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

That being said. Additionally they want monogamy, the shit tests are an effort to bait you into interest. Passing causes you to retain your current position.

[–]Endorsed Contributormonsieurhire21 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Eh, you say that, but if they are willing to share alpha, it is more like that they just want alpha at any price. They don't want monogamy with a beta or below. They want the beta's unilateral monogamy and commitment so they can extract his resources without any pilfering competitors, but they themselves don't want to be monogamous to him.

[–]AceMav210 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

That's dope. Also they share alpha contingent with their monogamous imperative, they're shopping for a bf. That's why every plate has a shelf life. Eventually settling for beta while still shopping on the market low key.

[–]Orochimaru3310 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

If a girl shit test me can I say to her "cut that shit, I'm not dealing any of that bullshit your tryna pull me."

I think this can work, but after awhile it'll stop.

[–]Endorsed Contributormonsieurhire20 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

That's not good enough because it's words. It has to be actions.

Removing yourself when she is "like this" and returning when she "calms down" but without appearing butt-hurt or sullen is probably a better approach.

[–]Biggdog220 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

What do you mean by getting soft?

[–]Endorsed Contributormonsieurhire20 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Well, in order to get the woman, some guys go through a period of monk mode, lifting, working, self-improvement, etc. Then they get the girl, go hog wild with the sex, their bodies get flooded with pleasure chemicals, but without doing any "real" work for the reward, so then their equilibrium is thrown off, and they start slacking off because work suddenly becomes really hard again. Or they just get lazy for some other reason, or they are perceived as being lazy. Or the girl sees through the image to the man and finds him wanting.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

When women were women and men where men were there more comfort tests?

[–]Endorsed Contributormonsieurhire20 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I think so probably, but I'm not that old. From what I've heard from my elders, the main thing people were worried about was rapacious male sexuality knocking up women and leaving them to support kids in poverty with no possibility of remarriage. My grandparents got married right out of high school. My grandfather was a working stiff, and my grandmother was a beautiful woman. They were married their whole lives. My dad and my mom got married in their mid-twenties. They actually thought my dad would never get married because he was "old" at 28!

Now, the "comfort" tests are, "can you instantaneously satisfy my every whim including those I don't anticipate, plus all future whims????" not "can you provide food and shelter and help me raise the kids."

So, it's insane mode, it seems.

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second one sounds more reasonable

[–]DeGENZerate22 points23 points  (3 children) | Copy

The giggling of grandchildren crowds the comfy bean bag by the christmas tree. How did you meet grandma, Jimmy asks. Well, you say to Jimmy, I was at the club and this HB8 slut was coming down off molly. I threw some negs and she came home with me. This is when the shit testing began. It was constant probably from her high n-count. With every shit test I held frame by agree and amplifying. Then BOOM last minute resistance. She gave me the thousand cock stare but I wasn't a quitter. I tried re-engaging. Inch back two forward. Nothing was working so I disengaged and then she showed me that sweet golden poon. Let me see if I can find that field report...

[–]yes_kid2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Lol this is actually a great comment.

[–]RedHoodhandles0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Haha thank you for this one. I needed this right now.

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[–]omega_dawg9336 points37 points  (10 children) | Copy

I've got bad news for op... the testing never stops. never.

marriage doesn't stop it either. my parents have been together for 53 yrs and my mom STILL tests my dad today... almost every day.

sometimes it's small stuff... sometimes it's big but she will mess with him every.

idk why or how he tolerates it but at almost 80, i guess he ran out of fucks to give long ago. lol.

my advice... just keep doing what you're doing op. fuck em then put up with the annoying shit. look at it as practice for the "final exam" aka life as a married man.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (4 children) | Copy

idk why or how he tolerates it but at almost 80, i guess he ran out of fucks to give long ago. lol.

Maybe he's just hard of hearing? My grandfather is about the same age and I think he turns his hearing aid off when he's around my grandmother. She's annoying af and never shuts up.

[–]omega_dawg930 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

nah... he can hear well.

he's just playing along... knows it will pass like her next fleeting emotion.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

And then there will be another one, and another one, and another one... I suppose at his age he doesn't really care.

[–]omega_dawg930 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

well if you don't know, that's life with a woman.

the shit testing never stops.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Oh I know, believe me.

[–]Jabbermouth7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

AWALT even applies to your own mom, that’s tough.

[–]omega_dawg935 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

AWALT applies to all of them... until you bury them.

[–]Narcissist4560 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yikes man that sounds terrible.

[–]ChadTheWaiter1000 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Does your father pass them or fail

[–]omega_dawg932 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

i think he passes about 90%. but at his age and from his attitude i can promise you he doesn't give a shit.

[–]horologist2018 1 points [recovered]  (8 children) | Copy

u/bellend77 linked you to the Shit Test Encyclopedia, which you should check out.

They're shit testing you. They want to test your frame. They want to see if you break like a bitch, are a fraud, or if you're a real fuckin' man. Can you blame them?

I will tell you, though, that they will shit test you less, test your frame less, the higher your SMV is. Very low SMV's don't get shit tests; they get shit thrown at them. Mid-range SMV gets a pretty good amount of shit tests. Higher SMVs get very few, and the highest SMV gets like no shit tests whatsoever. Girls instinctively know that too much shit test will drive a higher SMV male away, so they do refrain.

Raise your SMV somehow, get abundance (which sounds like you already have), and you'll receive fewer shit tests.

No biggie, man.

[–]VikkBlack4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy

How do I deliberately invite shit tests to see how can I handle them? How do I put myself into these siruations?

[–]1kick619 points20 points  (0 children) | Copy

Talk to women

[–]1Pink1Stink0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Attract women

[–]FKaroundNfindOUT0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Pretend to be more than you are.

[–]xitalis0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

What’s SMV?

[–]horologist2018 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

Sexual Market Value, essentially what you're worth on the open market.

[–]zxcvb780912 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah you are right man. Sometimes I just would rather beat off than deal with it. I have a lady that I see every Sunday and it is always something new. Sometimes she goes to take a nap in the other room but leaves her phone in the room I am in. The whole time she is napping her phone is going off and the volume is all the way up. I want to grab it and smash it. But I think it bothers her more that I don't give a fuck. I am not jealous at all of how many people message her. I don't care how many people she is fucking. lol I just don't care. I did take this weekend off from her though since I had another lady friend here. But she annoyed the fuck out of me as well. But hey ho. Can't live with them can't live without them!

Imagine being married though lol the real joke is on them.

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[–]Narcissist45610 points11 points  (9 children) | Copy

Yeah I know man, but fuck how annoying is that shit??

[–]FalconWrite33 points34 points  (0 children) | Copy

I know what you mean man. Don’t let the tryhards here dismiss it, these little shit tests can build up over time and stress you out like a small stream creating a fissure in a rock. Personally that’s why I compartmentalize the time spent even talking to these chicks. 2 hours a day max, ain’t nobody got time to do these dumbass mental olympics around the clock

[–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen24 points25 points  (5 children) | Copy

You can always become gay.

[–]showerdudes9 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

Or focus more on your mission than playing retarded mental games with thots just for 20 mins of pumping. Thats a shit ton of energy and time wasted. Plates should be begging for you to make time for them to come and suck your dick.

[–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen14 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy


[–]Narcissist4561 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

This may be the appropriate route honestly, minus the gay sex. I enjoy hanging out with my bros more than any thot I’ve met.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

This may be the appropriate route honestly, minus the gay sex.

There's alternatives.

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[–]imtheoneimmortal-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Why should be annoying, actually if i want a gf i want to know if she's worth

[–]RedPillAlphaBigCock25 points26 points  (0 children) | Copy

it's a good thing - stop your fucking complaining and see the funny side

laugh it off and don't give a shit

keep up the good work <3

[–]2INNASKILLZ2K189 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

You could work on amused mastery, for your own entertainment.

Be amused at everything, and have mastery over your inner frame.

[–]Corporation_Pull-in7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

I find this behaviour extremely annoying. It's like they do it because they can get away with it, like a child would do to his parents because he's never been put in his place. I wouldn't put up with that bullshit.

[–]jm5113 points14 points  (1 child) | Copy

It doesn’t make any fuckin sense

Of course it makes sense.

If you were going on a very long journey by car, how thoroughly would you check it out for potential problems?

Why would she be any different? You are the vehicle that she is hoping moves her life forward. Damn right she is going to check for signs of weakness. If she doesn't, she was either never interested or, having found you lacking, is no longer interested in a future with you.

[–]rus93842 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

If you were going on a very long journey by car, how thoroughly would you check it out for potential problems?

Yeah, like checking turn signals when you are not planning to turn.

BTW, I can't say all girls behave that way and guess it depends on how you got acquainted with the girl. Girls are rather curious and believe (and they have a reason to do) most guys are jealous, so if you pretended you have no jealousy, they'll check that. Or that if you acted like you don't give a fuck on despising comments, they'll check that.

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yes, that's called "having a vagina". Get used to it.

[–]hang_all_sjws4 points5 points  (4 children) | Copy

This is one of the ways in which the modern world and 'equality' have fucked men over. For thousands of years, it was considered normal to be able to literally beat a woman if she misbehaved. And women enjoyed it like that. Now, it's considered a crime. Except some cultures have remained based (e.g. Islamic nations).

Women enjoy being dominated. They are masochists. But we have created an environment where it is literally illegal to give them what they secretly crave. So, they act out, like frustrated children - because basically that is what they are. Like children, they require discipline, and like children, if they don't receive discipline, they will act out.

Ultimate solution I guess is to move to Saudi Arabia or Dubai or some place where the proper and natural order of things has not been tainted by Western corruption and the cancer of feminism. Sorry that this is not particularly helpful advice. Just some thoughts.

[–]Narcissist4561 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

I mean, I agree.

[–]hang_all_sjws1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

It's bad, dude. Western society is topsy turvy. It's like a circus of insanity. I'm an older guy, and I've seen things change a bit in my time, invariably for the worse. It's like watching a beautiful sculpture made of ice melt right in front of your eyes.

I've been married for over 20 years. And I love women, particularly my wife, but a lifetime of exposure to women will eventually make you aware of what they are: children. And yet our society has elevated them to the point where they control almost everything, and have an infinite number of rights.

You can't even discipline your own kids any more - in my country it is literally illegal for parents to smack their kids. Can you believe this?? It's just as insane that a man cannot smack his wife when she behaves badly.

Sorry for the rant. I actually understand your frustration. I feel for you - I'm old and settled, but for a young guy trying to make his way in the world, it's like spending your life in a psychiatric hospital.

My real advice - if you want an obedient woman, maybe look for girls who believe in traditional values? Bar sluts are always going to be trouble. If you want a woman who doesn't shit test you and treats you with respect, and old-fashioned girl might be a preferable choice. I don't know... Good luck with it anyway.

[–]Narcissist4562 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Yeah I totally agree with your perspective man. It’s why everyone on this sub keeps saying, “enjoy the decline.” There really aren’t any traditional girls where I live and work (big city). The ones I’ve met who seemed to be family oriented and traditional were only pretending to secure commitment. Women have so many actual mental health illnesses nowadays they’re practically undateable. All thanks to feminism.

[–]hang_all_sjws0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yes, I can imagine it's hard to find trad women. Although, the other day I was walking around my own city, and there were two women (one old, but one young and pretty) on the sidewalk promoting some bible group. They were obviously traditional, particularly based on their attire, and the young one was damn cute. I think they're out there, but you won't find them at bars/nightclubs.

[–]HurricaneHugues2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Your frame is too strong. They can't believe that you're legit and that you're not gonna kiss their ads like those other clowns. Therefore they make it their mission to find your Achilles Heel.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Many girls break guys because they can't control the guy at current value

[–]Narcissist4561 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is probably the case. Trying to get more control over the situation.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's really not... quality doesn't do this, only the herd does.

[–]Kpwn882 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

When you know longer notice the shit tests, you will be a real man.

[–]good-look2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

"Girls will give you shit to see if you are the shit. "

Sure, it gets annoying. It's up to you to decide how much you're willing to take. It gets annoying but I've noticed developing a stoic frame will get you less shit. Lift heavy weights and meditate to help with that.

[–]juggernaut84 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy

Probably because you're passing the shit tests, but only marginally or you're falling some and passing others. Therefore their instinct is to test you again.

[–]Biggdog220 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

So if you pass the shit tests they keep testing you?

[–]juggernaut80 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Depends on how you pass it. Suppose you're an engineer and your job is to assess the stability of 3 buildings that are built on a mountain slope. So you drill into the earth, and check the soil over a period of time. The results are as follows:

Building A (slope is confirmed solid - schedule regular annual test from now on)

Building B (slope is not solid - building is on the verge of collapse) Close down building.

Building C (wildly inconsistent test results - much more testing required urgently)

If you get loads of shit tests all the time then you are likely building C.

[–]Biggdog220 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

True. I think I’ve just been super inconsistent in my frame since I’ve found TRP. Need to get back to the basics. Not blaming TRP but I had solid frame a few years ago. Wasn’t gettin laid as much but frame was better

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Fuck those thots

[–]Biggdog221 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy

Same man I’ve been getting tested to shit and I don’t understand why. If their interested why are they going to test you by saying “oh I wanted to hang out but you killed that vibe” like wtf

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[–]FKaroundNfindOUT0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah. If the imaginary vibe is dead, real actions can't bring it back. Go ghost and let her imagination do that... or not.

Yes. I spelled ghost wrong.

[–]Biggdog220 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I mean I did I deleted her number and shit. So she was just looking for attention?

[–]FKaroundNfindOUT0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I mean I did I deleted her number and shit. So she was just looking for attention?

No. She was looking to dump you.

Depending on the situation, "a lot like I'm gonna/already did kill that pussy?" Or, "bring that mother fucker back with those DSLs you got!" But most likely a complete no contact works best when they're being bratty.

[–]Gr33d3ater1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

If they’re parading other guys interest in her in front of you, then she’s not satisfied with either, how much she feels attracted to you, or insecurity about your attraction to her. Most women I’ve dated would have voiced that feeling instead of doing crazy shit like this.

If they pull that shit, just drop them. Not worth the trouble. Why do most women do crazy shit to you? Because most women you’re attracting are unstable. RP principles aren’t there to bag you the unicorn; it’s a numbers game. You aren’t supposed to be dating the women you pull with these methods. Most of them are as emotionally and intellectually defunct as you would expect an animal acting on instinct to be.

[–]Rokushakuboh1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

It really is just a shit test. They want to see how you will react. Show abundance mentality by being up in other girls dm’s as well.

[–]SwoleyMoleyFrijoley1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Have you ever seen a product that's supposed to be indestructible? So strong and resilient that it would never break? Lifetime guarantee.the first thing you'd want to do if you didn't believe their claim is try and break it. Women want to know if you're really unbreakable.

[–]Narcissist4562 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Ok, but how many fucking times is the bitch gonna smash the thing on the ground before she’s convinced?

[–]InsidiousCurve1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Because they are psychotic and their whole life revolves around their emotional mental map. Start conditioning them through punishment, or make them qualify themselves...etc. Start showing them less attention.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Penis envy. They want to tame you and choke you with your own masculinity. All these attempts at getting to you are just narcissism. At least that's my theory.

[–]GiftedUnlimtedRU1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

If a woman shit tests too much that’s a red flag. It says the only thing in her life is the games between men and women. It’s also done by dumber chicks who think they’re smart or ones that have low emotional-intelligence imo.

Not only that most shit tests are boring, if you’re going to test me make it fun ffs.

[–]mrpoopistan1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I've always been good at shutting these things down. In my experience, you have to engage with the material and either neg or pressure flip. I come from a family of batshit crazy emotional sadists, so blowing people up is for me like a fish swimming in water.

Two of my favorite versions of this play went like this.

#1. She's bragging about having fucked an NFL player before. I told her, "Fucking the punter doesn't count." That ended it right there.

#2. Similar "these guys are messaging" shit. I said, "Oooooh, shit. Let's fuck with them." She says no and squeals. I tell her, "Don't show me a fun game if you're not gonna invite me to play."

Girl #2 was by far the most skilled at girl game I've ever seen in my life. Notably, she was also a cam girl, so she had a lot of practice fucking with guys.

In both cases, they were two of the most "on" chicks when it came to wanting to fuck. Chick #1 was the full-on "I need your dick in me" now type. In some cases, it can be more of a comfort test or qualification thing. I tend to think Chick #1 was more that type. There are also women who just do not have a fucking off switch with the bullshit. Chick #2 was definitely that type.

One thing I will say is that constantly winning at these little episodes can wear these chicks down. Once you've worn them down completely, they frequently end up going pouty and will eventually bail if you don't provide comfort. I'm a complete ass once I have the upper hand, so . . . I'll absolutely cockblock myself just to throw one more emotional gut punch for laughs.

My guess is that you're attracting a lot of the type of women who just don't have an off switch. For the most part, they're so caught up in whatever crazy shit they're pulling that they barely notice whether you're fucking with them or not.

They often can't even be bothered to notice what your response is, either. Many just keep going like a speeding drunk driver who didn't even see the stop sign or the pedestrians.

[–]Rkingpin 1 points [recovered]  (4 children) | Copy

Only be concerned if they don't try to break you

[–]itsjustsimon- 1 points [recovered]  (3 children) | Copy

That's not true. If your SMV is way higher than hers, shit tests will be nonexistent.

It's always when you're something in the middle and she needs to make a decision.

[–]Narcissist4560 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Ok but what decision are these hoes pondering? I already fucked them several times in extremely brutal caveman fashion. What else is there to decide on???

[–]itsjustsimon- 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

Doesn't matter, she just wants to know if you're still that guy or you become a little bitch.

[–]Narcissist4561 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Quite frankly I don’t care where these bitches put me long as they put my dick in their mouth and shut up.

[–]Jabbermouth0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I would take the advice of the other posters here and then it into a kind of game. Start seeing how ridiculously you can respond to these shit tests and still pass. Make it fun for yourself because the shit tests are not going anywhere.

[–]Lieisnotreal0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

If they keep testing you it probably means you're not really acing the tests.

The mere fact that you put up with it means you're not acing the tests actually

Edit : You know sometimes agree and amplify is not the solution at all. Being a man is knowing when to put your foot down and show who's fucking boss

[–]Endorsed ContributorMetalgear2220 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Women try to break you because they’re searching for a man they’re unable to break.

[–]UpperRedSide 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

They're gonna keep doing that shit bruh. They don't stop testing you.

In a girl's mind, meeting a masculine guy with what they call "big dick energy," rock solid frame, is too good to be true, so, just to make sure, they test you to see if you're a truly alpha as you seem. And then they do it again, to see if anything's changed, and then again, and again, it doesn't really stop.

However, if you actually pass the shittests by coming up with a badass comeback or too instead of simply ignoring it, you run a better chance of ending the shittests altogether and making the girl absolutely apeshit over you.

It's just that you're presented yourself to be strong masculine man on the outside and they are constantly worried that you are different on the inside, so they test you.

[–]Biggdog220 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

So if you appear a weak beta on the outside they ain’t Gona test you

[–]dtyler860 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I know this type very well. They aren’t even vulnerable to Alpha mentality. There are so many desperate guys that actually do you want them that they just want you for the challenge of it but when you don’t give into their shit tests, in a short period of time they will eventually just succumb to the orbiters.

[–]FUCK_YEA_GLITTER0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Anyone here who says to drop chicks who give constant shit tests will find themselves with no girls, or with girls that are way below their attractiveness. This is what girls do. They shit test. Ignore it and/or pass the shit tests and continue on doing whatever you want.

[–]Opioidus0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

That means you've made it bro. Women challenge men they find attractive to see what they're made of.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

They are probing your frame to see if you are are high value enough. And basic insecurity of girls themselves so they need constant validation that they are better than they are.

[–]Narcissist4560 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I think you mean constant validation that I’M better than they are, right? I treat EVERY girl like I’m better than her. Always.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Both. Because if they succeed, they are better than you, by definition. And they wish to succeed and at the same time want you to succeed (subconsciously) because they hope you (or want you to be) are high value male. So they want to see it with their eyes.

[–]3chazthundergut0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Get used to it.

Women are genetically hardwired to seek out and expose male weakness. It is her job to find the cracks in your armor, wedge herself inside those cracks, and fucking break you.

It is your job to maintain your frame. Dismiss her attacks like you would an annoying fly. Agree and amplify her shit tests. Turn the tables on her and tease her right back. Ignore her. Just don't become defensive or butthurt.

By the way this will never stop. Females will always try to break you down. Like I said it is their nature. It becomes much easier to deal with when you realize NOT to take it seriously, and you realize that females only do this kind of behavior to men they are interested in fucking (she is checking your balls to make sure you are sex-worthy). Women don't go out of their way to antagonize men they aren't interested in.

[–]buttgoogler0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

That's called a shit-test. It's a sidebar fucking material. When will people learn to go and read it before asking another autistic question?

[–]flam3srock0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I've wondered this too. For a woman, there is only emotion. Strong emotion will manifest as love (hook up) or hate (shit.) She doesn't know why she feels anything at all, only that you trigger emotions in her and she reacts to them in her behavior. Weak emotion translates to indifference ie you are invisible.

They're not behaving in any specific way only reacting to you. If they detect weakness they react by trying to put a barb in you. If they detect strength then sex and commitment.

[–]ArchsofArch-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

They like you.

[–]kcxvi-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

More fan fiction.

[–]ArchsofArch-3 points-2 points  (0 children) | Copy

They probably think that you seem to be the kind of person who needs that.

The below thing is not true. Women shit test everyone.

You should focus on your frame instead of them.

What do you want from it, go with that. That is all that matters. Chances are that person just wants the best for you.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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