Day 0 of Swallowing the pill after my wife mocked me - Is my marriage salvageable?

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This was tough for me to write out, so please bare with me.....

My marriage is on the rocks. I am to blame for the problems. I've basically been a drunk captain this entire time. I never owned my own shit.

It has been ten years of me acting like a bitch, complaining about not getting enough sex, getting into screaming fights with my wife and two boy when things don't go right, etc.

I'm 40 years old and weigh 215lbs. In spite of my excess weight, I'm still fairly good looking. She is 41 and weighs closer to 250lbs and her looks are starting to weather. We weren't always like this. I used to be 185lbs when we got married. She too was much less. In spite of her looks today vs mine, she has complete frame and control and perceives her SMV as being much higher than mine.

Our sex life is in shambles. I feel like I don't get enough. I used to feel like I deserved it. But she thinks otherwise. She hasn't kissed me passionately in years. Blowjobs are non-existent. She doesn't let me touch her breasts. When I try to run my hands between her legs she tells me that she is good and doesn't need to be looked after. She is repulsed by my touch. She is checked out from me.

I am thinner than her. Better looking than her. Have more potential than her and she is the one who is checked out in this relationship. I am to blame for the problems.

When sex does happen, its for my pleasure and benefit and mainly to shut me up. "Do what you need to do" is what she says on nights she is willing to close to her eyes and wait for things to be over.

Last night I wanted her and she declined. Today I had a bad day at work, brought the bad day home. I yelled at my wife. I yelled at my kids and tonight she comes out swinging at me mocking me for being a little bitch because I didn't get what I wanted from her last night...... and you know what? She is right. I am a bitch.

She also knows that I'm her bitch. A good provider with a job in the $150k range. I am a safe bet for her. She puts up with me because she gets first crack at the money for the house, the kids, etc which I have always allowed.

This admittance on my part has been hard for me to write out. Mainly because it shows my true self. A loser. A lost little boy.

Even this reddit username of mine proves that I have deviated from being a real man with control. This account started off as a "therapeutic" account for myself where I would talk about fantasizing my sister in law and wanting to have sex with her. As I spread my pathetic fantasy, I would start trolling other sub reddits in order to gain karma. Looking back at some of my posts I see how immature and how pathetic of a man I have been over the past year. Its no wonder my wife has lost all desire for me. I'm acting like a 14 year old boy.

I want things to change. I want to change. I want to be a husband my wife respects. I want to be the father who in control of his ship at all times. I want to lose weight. I want to feel better about myself. I have lost myself and have lost my ways. I need to be a better man. Firstly for myself. Secondly for my kids. And thirdly for my wife.

She was once in love with me. Not so much anymore.

Where is my wife at this moment? She's checked out. She went to sleep 30 minutes ago. She doesn't want to talk to me. She doesn't want to watch TV with me. She doesn't want to spend time with me. She would rather close her eyes and sleep than be in the presence of a drunken captain. I don't blame her.

My question to askMRP is the following: Is my marriage salvageable? Or am I fucked?

I am looking for brutally honest replies. I hit the low point when I realized tonight that my wife mocked me. She mocked me. It hurts to admit. The woman I love mocked me and I am to blame for it.

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Title Day 0 of Swallowing the pill after my wife mocked me - Is my marriage salvageable?
Author throwaway-iwantmysil
Upvotes 18
Comments 74
Date 21 February 2019 03:40 AM UTC (2 years ago)
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[–]SteelSharpensSteelMod / Red Beret[M] [score hidden] stickied comment (4 children) | Copy

I’m very tempted to lock this, given the OPs post and trolling history.

OP, you haven’t done shit. Trolling for imaginary internet points that don’t matter?!?

I will tell you this. If you don’t post by end of day in the OYS threads, I’m locking this and banning you permanently from MRP. Prove to us (and yourself) that you actually want to change. Or continue to be a bitch. Your choice.

Edit: OP did post in OYS, so I'm keeping this unlocked.

[–]0io-Tsundere31 points32 points  (5 children) | Copy

The short answer is probably, yes. But nobody knows for sure until you fix yourself.

Don't worry too much about sex or the marriage right now. Your priority is to get in the gym and lift and go on a cutting diet for the next 6 months or a year until you're under 15% body fat. Both lifting and diet are super-important, but diet is more important since you're fat. Keto / Low Carb diets work well for a lot of men. You should probably start immediately. If you lose a pound a week you'd be back at 185 in 30 weeks, which is enough time to get to a much better place than you are now.

I would take her up on the "do what you need to do" sex whenever it is offered at this stage (right now). Be a little faster and rougher than you usually are and make sure you get yourself off from it. (Caveman style)

As for personality, mental game, etc... the right answer about 90% of the time is going to be STFU. Just try not to get drawn in to any pointless arguments, don't raise your voice, don't explain things, etc.

By the end of the Summer you should be in much better physical shape than you are now, and well on your way towards your goals. You'll probably be getting more sex by then (who knows) maybe the wife will start treating you better and start losing weight too. Maybe not.

By the end of 2019, if you're dedicated and religious about your diet and lifting weights, you should be in pretty good shape, to where you could date or fuck other women if your wife left you. Which is about the point that she should should suddenly be a lot more interested in you.

I can't tell the future, but if you really did the above like your life depended on it, I don't see any reason why your wife wouldn't be all over you. You would certainly be objectively "hotter" than a 250 pound obese middle-aged lady, to the point where everyone would see you two in public and think that you could do a lot better. My guess is that there will be a lag, and by the end of the Summer she'll notice "holy fuck, what's going on with my husband" and probably start trying to get her act together too. But that's just a guess. And if she never, ever comes around, and you have to start all over again, you'll be in a much better position to start all over again than you are now.

TLDR; Yes, it's doable, but you have to put in a ton of work on yourself to make it happen.

[–]BobbyPeruRed Beret4 points5 points  (4 children) | Copy

My guess is that there will be a lag, and by the end of the Summer she'll notice "holy fuck, what's going on with my husband" and probably start trying to get her act together too

I was already pretty big and in shape, and I went on a mission the last 4 months. I bulked up 15 lbs. Its not all muscle, but I added 50lbs onto bench, 50 lbs onto squat, 20 lbs onto overhead press, 100 lbs onto leg extensions... etc. I’m very noticeably more muscular and friends are commenting. Long story short, yes this does wonders for dread to the point that I have to add in some comfort, and I’m 50... so no excuses. Now, I’m mostly plateaued, so I’m going to cut about 7 lbs and increase the passive dread even more. Did she come along? Not yet, but this has worked in the past to get her ass in gear

[–]aherrns0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Does she feel the dread at this point?

[–]BobbyPeruRed Beret1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

The nature of passive dread is it varies from day to day. An analogy would be a passive income investment like a good stock... some days it’s up, some down... but it’s trending upward long term.

[–]gameoflibidos1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

I volunteered at my kids elementary this morning. Not many dads do that. I wish my wife was there. Every soccer mom I talked to was all giggly, stammering and hair flipping. That's the kind of shit that will turn your wife into dick grabbing velcro. haha

[–]aherrns2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Ah... the children's school... so many pussies... only one dick...

[–]helaughsinhidden17 points18 points  (9 children) | Copy

I've seen better men lose better marriages and worse men turn around crappier ones.

You have advantages. You are humble in realizing you are the reason.

You recognize your actions that need to change and hate them.

You took her off the pedestal, putting yourself and kids first. It is actually a very attractive way go be.

You want to change and be a better version of yourself, to actually grow, not stay the same and recite a magic spell.


Read the sidebar materials... in order. Probably at the gym.

Take your anger out on the weights and treadmill.

Post in OYS.

Maybe get a unique ID that is free of the cringe posts too.

Welcome to the rest of your life

[–]catchpull5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Good post to this gentlemen Sir!

[–]aherrns1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

Sorry, what is OYS?

[–]helaughsinhidden2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

Weekly post in r/marriedredpill called "Own Your Shit" where you make an honest post and say what's going on and the rest of us, especially Mods and those with Flair will either congratulate you or call out faggotry.

Best friends you will ever have since we don't care about your feelings, just brutal honesty.

[–]aherrns0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Tnx u. Tough love is the best love.

[–]FereallyRedHard Core Red11 points12 points  (5 children) | Copy

Is my marriage salvageable?

Change your mindset.

Marriage doesn't matter.

You fix yourself here.

The stay plan is the go plan.

If you're the problem, then if you don't unfuck yourself then you will continue to be the problem and poison the relationship and any future relationship, because you are the problem.

If you're not the problem (you are), then you will know to get the fuck out after you have unfucked yourself, and you won't continue to poison future relationships.

So, you can't fix the marriage, you can't fix your wife, you can't fix future relationships.

Only thing you can change is yourself.

So unfuck yourself. EVERYTHING else is just clutter.

[–]itiswr1ttenRed Beret22 points23 points  (4 children) | Copy

What he said with the corollary: if (HUGE If) you unfuck yourself, you'll encounter three heads of Cerberus along the way, usually in order. Try not to get bitten.

Head One - Rambo. Project the high standards you've set yourself unto your wife. Become angry and resentful you're improving and she isn't. Barrel over her with your newfound fake alphaness. Destroy everything if this path continues.

Head Two - Ennui. Fail to understand your progress is meaningful regardless of change or lack thereof in your current relationship. Progress is irrelevant to anyone but you.

Head Three - Indecisiveness. Having made major changes to your physique, game, and mission, can you commit to a path that you might walk alone? This is "stay plan is go plan".

Good luck OP. Time to post in the weekly thread

[–]simbarlionRed Beret4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

very nice

[–]redwall922 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Head Two - Ennui. Fail to understand your progress is meaningful regardless of change or lack thereof in your current relationship. Progress is irrelevant to anyone but you.

I like how you've put this into words. I see in your other comment here that you regret responding in this thread. But the gems are normally in the comments.

Everybody knows Rambo here. The narrow path culls out the guys that never leave the Rambo stage. Seems like there's a tendency to go back and forth between defining one's own progress (what you label Ennui) and being angry nobody is noticing (Rambo) ... back and forth, back and forth. Being able to define one's own progress is that skill to make yourself your own point of origin for your own actions. That skill is so difficult to come by after guys have thrown the duty of owning their actions onto others for years and years. The unfucking process is a meaningful process, regardless of change or lack thereof in a current relationship.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

This sums up the areas I have failed and still do. Great post especially for newer guys.

[–]FereallyRedHard Core Red0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Nice. I wrote Captain Rambo to address these and to flesh out the 1000 foot rope concept...

[–]rocknrollchuck4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

When sex does happen, its for my pleasure and benefit and mainly to shut me up. "Do what you need to do" is what she says on nights she is willing to close to her eyes and wait for things to be over.

Every Unhappy Wife is a Rape Victim.

[–]BobbyPeruRed Beret16 points17 points  (2 children) | Copy

Garbage post.

Read the sidebar, lift, and STFU - report back on the OYS thread weekly.

[–]itiswr1ttenRed Beret9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

Holy shit read his history. I'm mad I responded

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Why would you want to salvage a relationship with a land whale

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

You yelled at your kids because you had a bad day? Shit you have a lot of work to do. I would worry less if your marriage is salvageable and focus more on this; Are you salvageable.

I'm assuming you haven't read any of the books because almost every paragraph if yours has you doing something AGAINST the theories and pillars of RP.

Even if you read the sidebar twice and started to internalize it... it will be months before you start to see some change in your wife.... so expect the next few months to not change (in terms of your wifes relationship)

IF you really care, start reading all the books... internalize it... think on it... and start to improve every damn day.

I also assume you watch too much porn considering your crazy fantasy... you might want to quit that too

Your wife doesnt want to 'watch TV with you' - Good, its a waste of time

[–]MrChad_ThundercockBig Red Machine9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy

Mommy yelled at you? Tell MCT how bad it hurts...

“I am looking for brutally honest replies”

1) You’re a loser piece of shit

2) You’re a fat piece of shit.

3) Despite what you think, your SMV is way lower than hers- because of your weak beta behaviors. Very unattractive.

4) Your wife will act as shitty as you allow. Only doing what she is programmed to do.

5) She’s just mirroring you: being a lazy lost fat piece of shit with no vision or goals.

6) She only likes the resources you provide her (your $) Do you really think she wants your little 2” penis near her? Can you even see it when you look down?

7) You want to fuck your SIL? Faggot. Creep.

You sound like the fat tub of shit in Shawshank Redemption crying out for his mommy on the first night in jail. You need a beat down.

Listen to u/BobbyPeru

The first step is to unfuck YOURSELF. You have a lot of work to do.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

You want to fuck your SIL? Faggot. Creep.

That little gem was really buried in the gayness of the post. Missed it the first read through.

[–]QSDT5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

All men are salvageable if they want it enough, not all marriages are, so work on you and see what happens, Go Plan is the same as Stay Plan.

[–]simbarlionRed Beret2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Good one for knowing a lot of what you have to do. But above all, get it clear in your head, this is about you and it takes time. Lots of time. All the stfu and lifting, yep, do it. Read it all. Read Steels post and all the links a hundred times.

Have a think about what it is you actually want to become as a man, what YOUR goal? It should be amongst other things to get to the point where you know your ok if you split up. Looks and frame in check so you can pick up. Finances in order. Healthy. Strong relationships with the kids - so no matter where they are, they would rather be with you. Work out what that person looks like in your mind. Its going to take you a while to get there so strap in.

But my interest here is that you clearly have a few things to address in your mindset, so forget the nitty gritty daily marriage (battlezone) issues for a bit. You need to get the mental peace in your head, as in, past the anger, past the revenge, all that shit. Right now you sound like a train wreck of needy hoplessness. To get this peace, you need to mentally check out from the relationship. Form a view in your mind it is over, and starting acting that way. This mind shift should be undetectable. Be less needy, less available, give less fucks. And not because thats what will get her back into you, do it because thats the Red Pill way - it doesn't stop you being nice, fun etc.

Give it a week for the dust to settle, then start being your own point of reference, point of origin, less influenced by her whims. And get your shit together. its embarassing to our gender.

[–]Pher632 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I hope you are sincere OP. Your post history suggests otherwise

[–]justpickanyusernameRed Beret2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Shouldn’t you be on Day 1 instead of Day 0? You haven’t left the starting blocks yet.

[–]Acerp3212 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Cut the “I want” bullshit. That’s loser talk if I ever heard it. If you know what you “want,” decide what actions will get it. Take fucking action. Commit.

Ever heard people tell you about their diet to lose weight? They are always trying. Trying. Notice the difference between someone who loses it and keeps it off. They werent trying. They were doing.

[–]Reach180Red Beret2 points3 points  (6 children) | Copy

She is 41 and weighs closer to 250lbs

Are you really attracted to that, or do you just crave the validation of getting someone to agree to fuck you.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

If I had a wife that said “do what you need to do”, first of all I wouldn’t be fucking her, I’d save my mojo for a women that wants it.

I’d be flirting with other women, making sure I’m on top of my game in al areas of life, and generally keeping my options open.

If she changes her tune, because I have other options which is attractive to women, maybe I wouldn’t jump ship... or if a better option presented itself maybe I would

[–]RedPillCoach2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

She is checked out from me.

I bet you two are so checked IN that you finish each others sentences.

In many cases, certainly yours, the solution is to differentiate yourself, build a life without her, and then later offer her a chance to join you.

my wife mocked me

No woman can ever harm you except that you give her the power to do so (paraphrasing Marcus Aurelius).

[–]SiegreicherMarsch1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

There's no real question here, I think you just tacked something on the end of your puke that you already know the answer to (you don't sound stupid, just pathetic). Hopefully you feel better now. Get to work and promise yourself to never make a post like this again.

[–]vivid_mind1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

You said drunk captain. Do you drink? Maybe it's time to quit? Drinking is fun and games in man's 20s, but past 30 it is a fools juice.

[–]resolutions3161 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

It’s a term d’art on this sub, not an indication of actual alcohol consumption.

[–]screechhaterRed Beret1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

What’s so sad about your post and many others like it, is that you apparently lack a barometer of what a real marraige should resemble.

Better yet, what a happy, fulfilled masculine make brings to the table in a marraige or relationship.

Quit your bitching, you are not a victim in all of this.

Sidebar. Diet. Lift.

Dump the land whale when she refuses to come along.

There are women/spouses out there that will suck your cock. But then again, if you’re fit, attractive and manscape.... totally up to you

[–]RicoDunne1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

250 lbs and her looks are starting to wane.... dude those looks vanished 130 lbs ago.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Is my marriage salvageable?

Here's a better question. If you knew for a fact that your marriage would end 6 months from today, what would you do? Be honest with yourself about what you want, but more importantly be realistic. Don't tell me that you'd bang 100 Instagram models when your fat wife won't even fuck you.

The answer to that question above is your map. What's realistic right now (i.e masturbating to your SIL using your own tears as lubricant) is your starting point, and what you want for yourself 6 months from now is your first objective. There are a ton of resources available to you to help along the way. Read everything on the MRP sidebar and post in OYS. Pick a few flaired members and read their backstories (this was huge for me) so you can see where they started. Acknowledge that you are the one that fucked up your marriage, but do so without putting your wife on a pedestal.

Get to the gym now. Newbie gains are amazing, and if you pick a program and actually stick to it you'll be amazed where you are in 6 months. Stronglifts 5x5 is a good starting place. Find other reasons to get out of the house too. Don't hover around your wife or berate your kids because your life sucks.

Most importantly, shut the fuck up about all of this. I'll say it again because this is where I really think you're going to struggle... SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT EVERYTHING YOU'RE DOING TO IMPROVE YOURSELF! You aren't doing this to get your wife's approval, or to be a better role model for the kids, or for validation for strangers. You're doing this because you're a fat piece of shit right now and you want to be a less shitty version of that in 6 months. If you make it that far, you'll have an idea what you need to do to make some real progress. I don't think you will... prove me wrong.

[–]RedPill-BlackLotusRed Beret1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Can you even lift 250 pounds?

[–]Frosteecat1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

I’m not going to go the morbid curiosity route and peep your history but I get that you are a POS beta assclown. Yesterday. Today is a new day. Don’t waste it.

[–]UnbreakableFrame2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

You need to read the sidebar. I started with 'No More Mr. Nice Guy' first, so that's what I would recommend. You need to get a gym membership and become attractive again.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

I would recommend Married Man's Sex Life Primer. It will explain why his wife isn't attracted to him, it will explain how he can become attractive again, and it will explain what he needs to do to change himself. NMMNG is awesome, don't get me wrong, but it's strictly focused on removing covert contracts and putting yourself first. OP is in dire straits, and needs to get his compass calibrated and pointing in the right direction.

[–]UnbreakableFrame0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I see where you are coming from. That was the 2nd book I read and it was definitely a huge eye-opener.

[–]mrp_awakening0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You're on day 0. You need to learn to STFU and trust the process. If you can't even STFU to a group of internet strangers, how do you expect to STFU and hold frame with your wife? Do OYS, and report changes when they happen (few weeks minimum) or ask questions when you've been doing it long enough to have actually elicited results.

[–]rockstarbottom0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Jesus Christ, less talk, more lift, and get some sidebar, motherfucker.

[–]Captain_pants40 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Can you get your fat wife to respect you again? Of course, she has no other option.

Get into the gym and work off some of that anger. While you’re contemplating this and trying to justify not doing it, you need to STFU. Shutting your fat mouth will be harder than you think but will do you a lot of good

[–]becoming_alpha0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Direct answer to your question, nobody knows if your marriage is salvageable. She's still putting up with you which is a good sign. The more important question is whether you are salvageable. She's a reflection of you, and it's not pretty. But even you are salvageable.

All the tools are here for you to become the best version of yourself, and guess what, the best version of yourself is attractive to women, maybe even to your wife. Start with NMMNG and WISNIFG, dial in your diet and lift heavy things to exhaustion 3 times a week. You'll need some cardio too for that extra 40 pounds you're carrying. The physical side will be hard and take discipline, but it'll help you develop the mental fortitude for the more difficult task: unfucking your thinking.

You got your victim puke out, now get to work. We can be your sounding board as you progress if we see you're putting in the effort, but we don't like leaches. Steel told you to get your OYS posted today, better get on that ASAP.

[–]TaipanshimshonRed Beret0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Just from the title-

Why should you want to salvage your marriage ? That’s not the point

[–]Dialerstring0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Bro dedicate a few days going to the gym and set obtainable short term goals. OYS at home and clean out that dirty ass car. Your confidences is in shambles so maybe try joining a boxing club, cross-fit, kickboxing gym just do something that will challenge you. Here's an idea "Get fucking busy this Saturday". Fix something around the house, hit the gym, get a hair cut, sign up for a trial boxing class and then find a spot to read NMMNG..

Glad to hear you are starting on NMMNG, so with that being stated, kill any expectation you have in your wife to include sex, validation AND stop settling for bad sex; which you CLEARLY don't have a choice in right now. You need to pick up MAP and understand the stages of DREAD. Lift and STFU and repeat.

[–]gameoflibidos0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

MRP doesn't fix the marriage, it fixes the man.

Sometimes as a side effect, it saves/improves the marriage,... sometimes as a side effect it ends it.

My advice if you want to stay in the marriage is to go slow, make slow changes over time and expect that it will take 6 months to a year to see any noticeable changes with your wife. You'll notice other people reacting to you much sooner, but with wives of years that have lost confidence in us being any kind of useful and strong man, it will take time.

You must follow the steps and read and re-read all the material in the sidebar. Top priority is to get a gym membership and start lifting heavy things asap.

[–]tannerjoseph280 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Hey man, I know this is really late but if it were me, I had treat her slightly similar to how she treats you. Not in the way where she ignores you, but make her realize that she could lose you. She could lose the 150K salary, the house she couldn’t pay for on her own, her entire family. At a certain point in life, I have come to realize that it is not at all who you are as a person, but what you can provide. Make sure you bring a much as possible to the table (be healthier, more fit), and make her afraid you may in fact leave. Never hint towards it or say it out loud, but if you get your shit together, get in shape, you seem to have all of the good commodities the average women searches for in a lifetime partner, it will get to a point where in the back of her mind she will realize she doesnt deserve you and she will change.

[–]SoloQueueXL-5 points-4 points  (5 children) | Copy

Start with telling your wife no. Take charge of everything going on. YOU are the breadwinner. You pay the bills she stays at home and cashes in. As long as you pay everything she has no control over it.

She thinks she does then dip bro, change banks let her pay those bills. Your money your rules homie.

My wife is 8 years older than me. Everytime she does some shit I don't like I tell her upfornt. Or if she tries to get me to use my money on stupid shit I tell her no. She whines a little but understands her place.

It all starts with the first no and just keep going. Even if she divorces you, you'll be more free than you are now. BE SELFISH


[–]MrChad_ThundercockBig Red Machine8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

This fat piece of shit beta can’t go around demanding sex.

[–]SBIIIRed Fucking Commando3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Stop giving advice. You're a fucking retard.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

OP is in no position to do any of this. He’s best off lifting and STFU for a good long while.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Hi, Rambo.

[–]SoloQueueXL-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Wassap nigga

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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