Are American girls 'easier' than British/European girls?

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February 24, 2019
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I live in London, UK. Most American expats/tourists/international students I meet can hold a conversation and do not expect you to do all the legwork. Their signals inviting you to approach are so plain as day that you really have to be an autist to ignore them. I've even had one approach me.

On the other hand, most British/European chicks I meet are so reserved and nonchalant that you really have to do all the chasing. They make the field reports on here look like fiction. While I believe that the core TRP principles apply to most women anywhere in the world, I feel that everything in between is catered more towards American women.

TL;DR: If I'm a 6/10, I believe I would have to do the same amount of work to game a 9/10 American chick as I would a 6/10 British chick.

Does anyone agree or disagree? Curious to hear your thoughts.


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Title Are American girls 'easier' than British/European girls?
Author pythasaurus
Upvotes 86
Comments 59
Date 24 February 2019 11:57 AM UTC (2 years ago)
Subreddit askTRP
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/219883
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[–]the-cat-killa87 points88 points  (2 children) | Copy

Even in America it's regional. Near New York and some southern states women are very approachable and may even open with you. Near Philadelphia and some other cities they definitely have their shields up more. Also I think you might be benefitting from women on vacation with the Americans you run into. Strange dick on vacation doesn't even register on their n count. That's what a lot of girls trips are for.

[–]thatguy3O523 points24 points  (0 children) | Copy

I also think the vacation factor is two fold. You have the "doesn't count factor" but also the woman you'll run into traveling internationally probably are just more outgoing in general. Or at least you probably won't bump into the less outgoing people while traveling.

[–]pickyourselfupman4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeh I was thinking that too. Guys and girls want to get laid on vacation, and American women are goo goo for British men with those accents.

And “yeah, I was on vacation so it didn’t even count, why would I tell him? He’s not the boss of me and he better not turn into some controlling asshole who won’t let me have fun on vacation when I’m vulnerable and trying to find myself. Anyways, yeah that trip he wants to take with his family to Israel to do his gay little pilgrimage and see some dumb temple is a big no no for me.

[–]clarix565 points66 points  (8 children) | Copy

Hehe, here we go: most of the time, yes, American girls are more "open". I don't want to call them easy because that's not exactly true; American (and south american) girls are more straightforward with their sexuality, and will usually understand that a nice ride on a guy's dick doesn't require their Family's seal, their Friend's approval and the Pope's blessing...

Regarding Europe, It depends on where you are living. However, what you'll often find the average woman in western Europe has a strong traditional culture that will demand the guy do all the chasing. This is a problem if you are used to gaming american girls because you may not want to go after the girl if she doesn't show any kind of interest. In other words, if you raise your SMV you may have better chances but you'll still have to hit on them because it's hard to get a good read on these women.

You even risk getting shut down by women who are way lower than you on the market scale just because they label you as "wanting sex". It doesn't matter if they want it or not too, you just shouldn't behave that way in their view. You can somehow explain this as a consequence of these women being influenced by modern time tendencies (social validation via social media, for example), but at the same time wanting to keep with their "tradition".

They are still sluts most of the time, but they self-regulate a lot among themselves. For example, I used to work with a woman in southern France that used to judge other women and called them sluts, and then she would try to tease her boss to make him her beta bitch, without ever sleeping with him, all while being married and with a son lol.

There's a lot of slut-shaming also. Hooking up with someone your family or friends don't know about will likely get you labeled as a whore. Women who managed to lock down some cock have way more power than those still looking, and will try to get them hooked up; ignore them and risk your reputation lol.

The traditional European girl may be attracted to you but will purposely shut down any display of it, so the ball is always on your court: you have to go after her with virtually no signals, and find out later on if she has the hots for you or not, thus guaranteeing a lot of rejections because, well, how the fuck are you supposed to know lol.

The only way you'll get a more "american" experience is during night life on big cities, and many women aren't even European. There's a reason why prostitution is legal or pseudo-legal in so many European countries: men who wish to get off don't want to put up with the "normal" crap their women make them go through.

You can better understand traditional European game as an LTR-oriented game. In fact, in many countries going to a bar at night means going out with friends without looking to score; if you approach one of these women and they don't know who you are, it's very likely they'll look at you as a pain in the ass.

There's also no such thing as "if I give you plausible deniability, we can hook up". She'll never do it unless she has some approval from someone else, which means you are most of the time subjected to the opinion of some bitch already fucking a cock that will try to get your woman to either sleep with you or not.

During my stay in Italy, I've seen women literally sleep only with guys pre-approved by their friends. Their social circle is a big jerk-circle of people who all know each other, and they only take a new person in only if it's to create a new couple; women are supposed to say "thank you" and try to sleep with the guy lol.

Oh, and one last thing: entitlement. You'll see a lot of women act like over-entitled princesses even when they are 5' monkeys with no ass, no boobs and overgrown teeth just because they are fucking someone. In fact, European girls sometimes are so easy to piss off just because they are not used to being "rejected" or told "no".

I think (not sure though) that Spanish women may be different, but I've mostly been to France, Italy, Germany and England. Italy is very difficult, France is close. In all of these countries, foreign women tend to be more open than natives though.

[–]pythasaurus7 points8 points  (5 children) | Copy

Great answer, thank you for going so in-depth. This is why I feel like some of the gaming tips on here can make someone seem so outlandish in some places outside of the states and sets you up to be a creep. I feel like gaming women requires more structure here e.g. needing mutual friends or social events. I don't drink so nightclubs aren't my thing.

That being said, because women's signals are so confusing here, I feel like there are relatively few guys putting work in to their SMV. Defeatist mentalities are also very rampant among both white and ethnic minorities. That makes it easier for high SMV guys to stand out hence why I'm incredibly grateful for discovering TRP.

[–]mrrooftops7 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy

Unless you are a foreign traveller passing though on Tinder, then these girls come out of the woodwork because no one they know will ever know they hooked up with you. It was insane. I was their little secret. Spain, Italy, Slovenia, Croatia, Hungary, Czech, Poland, Romania, Ukraine, Latvia. It was one big road trip and there were -hot- girls in every country. Just don't ask to meet their friends or family. Lolol

[–]tekn0_0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

How was it different in each of those countries?

[–]celincelin0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

EE is different like that, you get a big ass status boost if you’re a young non fat American. You can even be Black, just don’t be Asian.

[–]rugged796 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

The answer is both.

There are a lot of posters that never work on their SMV and try to get "tips" on how to get in a girls pants fast. They've never read the sidebar or even know why it's necessary for bitch management.

The Top Guns on this site are the real deal. They're putting big numbers on the scoreboard and it reflects in the consistency and knowledge of their replies.

Some of the outlandish techniques are written by the posers that just pieced together info from posts and replies from this site. They've never field tested it.

Some just sound outlandish because you haven't reached that level of RP yet. Remember the first time you read about AWALT? "Unpossible. There's no way All Women Are Like That". But they were like that. You just couldn't see it yet.

I would say expand you social circle. Don't worry if most of them are just acquaintances. Also don't cut yourself off from nightclubs, they are intimidating initially, but when you gain experience, it is one of the easiest places to get a plate.

[–]Chaddeus_Rex1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

American (and south american) girls are more straightforward with their sexuality,

South American, yes. American girls, no.

American girls pretend to be open, but they're not.

[–]Monkitail0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

So, stick to hookers in Europe, gotcha!

[–][deleted] 44 points45 points  (7 children) | Copy

British guys slay in the USA

[–]sstidman8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

This is absolutely a fact. OPs success with American women is less about how open American women are and more about how much American women LOVE a guy with a British accent. I went to Dublin a coupe of times and found the reverse...super easy to meet women there. So it might just be a fascination with exotic people.

I’ve often said that every British guy should come to the US for a few years after graduating college. They’d be shocked at the level of interest from American women.

I’ve also wondered what would happen if an American guy faked a British accent.

[–][deleted] -4 points-3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Lmao you're full of it, British people have a history of inbreeding is why there so ugly it's a fact.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/news/the-most-googled-questions-about-britain-in-europe/

https://thetab.com/2015/07/16/british-people-ugly-45482

[–]GiraffeOnWheels3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

I've only known a couple and they definitely could, but they were too reserved to do anything about it.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Also a lot of american girls havent actually met british guys. Only exposure has been one direction and other media personalities. I think the reserved factor comes in with our own British culture of minding your own business.

[–]Iceklimber10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

Travel first and foremost:

Women are subjected to restrains at home, but abroad their hypergamy is allowed to run wild free of consequences or social stigma.

British girls who are tourists in other countries are significantly easier than what you experience.

[–]AnabolLecter40 points41 points  (6 children) | Copy

Spanish/Italian/French are hard IME. Because they get tons of validation. Especially Italian. British way easier. Also their SMV is kinda low (lot of fat/chubby women). American girls are more outgoing and talkative. I would say they're between Spanish/Italian/French and British.

But it depends.

[–]pythasaurus31 points32 points  (4 children) | Copy

Yeah every race has fat/chubby girls but it stands out a lot among the British because they still wear clothing suited for slim girls. You often see 5s masquerading as 8s. It's just cringe.

[–]ZedBaby3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Oh god, that one killed me 😂 so true

[–]jinxedmusic3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

I think Patrice O'neal called it fat ugly bitch with a pretty skinny bitch attitude. 2 girls 1 cup....

[–]AuberyBitoni0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Spanish girls are really easy...

[–]someonesopinion69697 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

of course, the entitlement has stepped up to the extremes in England and in the age of thirsty social media monkeys, it's only got way fucking worse

[–]LongDongLondonDon 1 points [recovered]  (2 children) | Copy

I believe so yes. When I was living in Asia I met a bunch of international girls, some from North America, some from Asia. My London accent alone made it easier for me to game them.

[–]livefreeofdie2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

How many you gamed?

[–]ArchsofArch8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

Short answer yes.

[–]cuztrp5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

If you wanna fill your head with all the misconceptions everyone is throwing at you in the comments, go ahead. But I must tell you: it largely depends on the person. There are a lot of factors that may contribute to the girl's sexual strategy, personality and behaviour and their geographical origins have maybe a little if nothing to do with it. Everyone is different. A girl from the US might be easy, but a girl from Italy might be a lot easier. It depends on how they were raised, their former experiences and soooo many other stuff.

Stop this stereotypical bullshit. Pussy is a pussy wherever you go. Hypergamy is always hypergamy. If she's brown, white, Asian, hides under a burqa, it's the same fucking biology. Same anatomy. Same thinking. They're all women. They all have different SMVs and they all have a certain idea on how they perceive themselves.

For example, an Asian girl might be a 3 where she's from. She comes to Europe and suddenly she's that one exotic cute Asian girl whom everyone wanna bang. But she's easy. And your surprised why she was so easy. That's because she thinks she's low value.

And then you meet an Arab chick who would shittest the life out of you until you cry your life out. She's fucking ugly and very stern. Yet you're wondering why she wasn't that easy.

And then you can always find many many other colorful examples with different stories.

Stop this fuckery and work on yourself instead of filling your head with useless stereotypes.

[–]Moldy_Gecko2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Weird, all I've ever heard is British women are some of the easiest women in the world. That being said, despite some social culture differences, AWALT is AWALT. I live in Japan where it's taboo for women to cheat, but acceptable for the men, however, I still had my dick in a married girls mouth today. It's all a competition, be better than the other guy and you'll likely get the girl.

[–]HandsomeTalos1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

Was wondering the same. I'm from an Eastern European country and will come for the summer in USA, near Boston. I'm gonna have such a cultural shock... can't even imagine.

[–]BuckNekkid180 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

It's really not that much of a "shock". You're going to be doing the same thing you do in your country except in english.

[–]HandsomeTalos0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I imagine people being more friendly and open to conversation than in my country. The language is the last thing that I'm worried about. It's gonna be a fun summer.

[–]Monkitail-3 points-2 points  (0 children) | Copy

How are the bitches in kosovo?

[–]ice_cold_sandwich1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Maybe the pretentious, indie/artyst girls over there.

Or they could just be shy.

[–]tinmarFF1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Slav chicks are even harder also it depends which country but most of them are still raised in patriarchy so they have shields way up and are often more loyal to one man then other chicks I've met in other europen countries.

[–]celincelin1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Slavs are absolutely the easiest. Patriarchy my ass, you probably believe they all still use washboards, too.

[–]rugged791 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yes and no.

If You're a 6/10 trying to get HB9, of course you're going to have to make up the difference to pull her. She's an HB9, she has options.

The foreigner card plays well. When you travel, your SMV goes up a little. If you're 6/10 I'd it turns you into 7-7.5 by default.

Women who travel generally have a more solid foundation than those who don't. If a woman can't figure out the logistics of a vacation, what makes you think they have any other skill sets such as knowing the value of a man or being able to hold a conversation?

I've been to many European Countries including the UK. London is awesome. But you can't fly or take the ferry over the water every weekend. You should still widen your net. So gaming chicks and making friends as close as Birmingham, Leeds, Newcastle or just outside of London gives you more options. Then you just meet up when they come to London or you feel like going outside London.

[–]ddiogenesofsinope1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Dude London girls are some of the hardest to game in the world.

I went travelling a while back and Im not exaggerating when I said I banged a girl from a different country once a night for about 5 days.

I came back to London and used the exact same game... I was shutdown and went on a dry spell for a year. It was really eye opening. I could game no problem around the world but my own country women were not interested lol

American women I find are highly receptive but I would guess they are probably more true to the red pill monster we see horror stories of. They probably have a much more general mindset of what can I get out of this

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

Good men get laid anywhere.

[–]huey7644 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy

Even in, say, Iran?

[–]Moldy_Gecko8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

Especially in Iran

[–]theubernoob2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Maybe not necessarily in Iran, but with Iranians on vacation, definitely.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yep.

[–]satellite7791 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

You can't directly compare without gaming women in cities where they live, or gaming them only while on vacation. International exchange student/girl on a vacation will be much easier to game.

[–]Imaginary_Historian0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

There are culture differences, sure, and the Euro girls I have been around were a lot more liberal than Americans on average, but never think AWALT doesn't apply. At the primal level, women are women no matter where they are from. I just refused to talk about politics, but did not hold back on game and my results were fundamentally no different than with American chicks.

[–]bootruman0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I [American] dated a girl from Ireland for a time. I can see where you are coming from. I had been talking to her casually in a group of mutual friends but did not sense any sexual tension from her end. One night I walked her to her apartment nearby and I asked if I could come in and she plainly said yes. It turned out that she was really very much into me. It was a great relationship and she could t keep her hands off of me once we dated.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

I mean follow the first two rules and nothing else matters.

But in any case, Foreign girls are always easier to connect with regardless of the country. American girls in the UK or British girls in the states or Australian girls in Germany.

On that note, How easy are German girls though? I swear they’re pretty sexy, albeit a little shallow, but they have to be the easiest of the foreign girls by a fair way!

[–]pythasaurus0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Mini field report.

I met a German girl last weekend at a convention. She was quite the intellectual and had already written and published a 400 page book before turning 18. She was quick to open up about her past which was unusual, and I could tell that she carried a lot of emotional baggage. Her signals were confusing af though e.g. left me randomly, followed me randomly, wouldn't answer some questions properly, other times wouldn't stop talking.

What really weirded me out was when another girl approached us while we were together. After this second girl got to know us, she asked the German girl for her Instagram or number. The German replied that her phone is out of charge so no can do. Afterwards when it was just me and the German again, she was using her phone as normal. Anyway I began to realise she may be a sociopath with a whole bag of issues. Ended up losing her a final time and didn't see her again.

Hopefully she wasn't representative of German girls because that was some bullshit lol.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

My experience has been that they’re crazy in the sack, easy to seduce for a NSA fuck, but highly hypergamous, you wouldn’t want to properly date them. At least the kind that I’ve met in Australia... they’re here for a good time, not a long time.

They’re very practical in that sense, in true German fashion... they usually have boyfriends back home too

[–]zxcvb78090 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

As an American in England I had a very easy time picking up women. I was there for about 2 years. I had like 5-7 women in my rotation usually with new recruits on a regular basis. Now I am back in the states and for the same amount of effort I have 2 women in my rotation. I don't really feel like putting so much effort into dating for less results. The time is better spent on something with higher return.

[–]SirNemesis0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Women who are traveling are easier than local girls. That applies to American girls in Britain just as it applies to British girls in America. Also, Americans have a thing for British accents so that adds to it.

[–]NameUser180 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Fellow Brit here. American girls are 100% easier.

[–]BigWeenus420 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

AWALT unless brainwashed by cults (catholic and the other similar generic brands.)

Go get em.

[–]lampshade28180 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I think it really matters on the girl. Also, bring on vacation, holiday, or studying abroad usually lowers inhibitions. For instance, British/Spanish/Aussies can do well in the US because they are different, but in my experience, US guys do great in Europe and especially Asia. I went on a trip for business school to Shanghai, and the reaction to Americans was crazy. One of my friends is white, about 6'5"/280lbs, played college football. Random people would just come up to him on the street and ask to take pictures, because they had never seen someone like him.



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