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Overly reactive father. How to introduce him to TRP?

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March 12, 2019
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He is not a ''nice guy''. He has no problem saying no and isn't a pusharound. He is a respectable person and runs his own buisness.

The only problem I see in him, through my RP lenses, is his ways with dealing with my mom. Now if it was me, I would have nexted her years ago, but that's out of the question as they have been married for 20+ years.

Everything she says or does, he is always reacting emotionally. Nothing stoic about him. Most of the times my mother is actually wrong for what she says and he has every right to get angry, but as we all know that is not the right way to deal with women. He is always explaining himself to her or arguing with her. Constantly breaking frame.

Once I even told him that he should leave her and he got mad at me because, as he said, I don't want to help with the family issues.

If we were native English speakers, I would have bought him The Rational Male. Since we're Bulgarian, I'm having a hard time getting him into TRP. Everything I say to him (I tried once) sounds like absolute bullshit and like I'm some mad man. The fact that I'm 17 doesn't help.

Any advice on how to get him to step his game up and stop taking every little thing so serious. He should start treating my mother like a child and not valuing what she says so much, but I have no idea how to explain it to him.


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Title Overly reactive father. How to introduce him to TRP?
Author geismaikati
Upvotes 12
Comments 29
Date 12 March 2019 10:46 PM UTC (1 year ago)
Subreddit askMRP
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/221733
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/askMRP/comments/b0ea2k/overly_reactive_father_how_to_introduce_him_to_trp/
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[–]Reach180Red Beret12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy

Would your dad ever think "Wow, 17 year old son, you sure have your shit together. Could you help me be more like you?"

If the answer is no, nothing you could possibly tell him would make him take seriously what you say.

If the answer is yes, he might listen, and then probably decide you're full of shit and trying to manipulate him.

So either way, it doesn't matter what you say. Dude has to find the solution himself. First he has to realize that there is a problem.

But at 17, I too believed there was some magic combination of words that would reveal the truth to people. Took until I was near 40 to realize that's not how people work.

Handle your own shit, prepare to be an example to your own kids and break the chain. Your dad's problems aren't yours to fix.

[–]SorcererKingMod / Red Beret10 points11 points  (4 children) | Copy

that's out of the question as they have been married for 20+ years.

Da fuk dat got to do with the price of tea in China??

Ok, you're 17 and Bulgarian, so I'll translate: why does that matter? Because you're 17 I suppose 20 years sounds like an eternity; it's not. Learn about the sunk cost fallacy and don't worry about your dad. Keep your head on straight and don't make his mistakes.

[–]signsoflife6202 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I feel this but with my brothers.. unfortunately it might be near impossible to unplug him without messing up your relationship with your dad

[–]JudgeDoom692 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Gift him Meditations by Marcus Aurelius. Maybe it'll sink in. Maybe it'll help.

Unfortunately Red Pill is something you have to find on your own. It's impossible to turn someone on to it.

[–]alpha-zach2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Don’t. Talk. About. Fight. Club.

The best way to help is to not let your mom get under your skin. When he sees how well it works he may emulate some of your tactics.

[–]seedster51 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Don't. Stay the fuck away from introducing other people. This is a realization. Not an education

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Sounds like he needs Stoicism more than the full RP gamut. Start there.

[–]captainbourbon501 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

50 something guy here, divorced. I have seen a lot of guys our age and very very few take the RP but will live in misery for multiple reasons. Let him know you support him and that you see how she treats him. At most give him a copy of NMMNG (if he can read english). Change comes very very hard and slow and needs to come from within. Dont let you dad feel like you do no respect him.

[–]weakandsensitive1 point2 points  (7 children) | Copy

. Now if it was me, I would have nexted her years ago,

Love the arrogance of 17 year olds. Have you even fucked a girl?

[–]screechhaterRed Beret0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

There are key factors in statements or actions that instill peaked interest.

It becomes a sordid endeavor, but the possibility does exist to help wake him. I took a friend of mine to Fremont Street in Vegas.

It was quite the enchanted summer eve with the street freaks running amuck, but the “go go dancers” on the bar flipped a switch on the guy. He just stared for what seemed to be hours.

A suppressed sexuality woke up in him that he suppressed after he got married. The conversations between us became “she just won’t fuck”. I steered him toward lifting first. Then the “entrepreneurs in cars” YouTube videos. Seemed to get him to buy the Rational Male.

Good luck. You can inspire him, but you won’t be able to wake him up

[–]Suck-Less0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I’m new here and still working on improving myself. What got me thinking RedPill at 51/20 year marriage was coming across YouTube videos like these:

https://youtu.be/u_tvIn3JARc - RedPill on emotions and women https://youtu.be/FgkrylMIbls - Spetsnaz on men sacrificing for women

Those two videos took me down the rabbit hole. Since he’s your father you can always ask him for “guidance.” Tell him you need his advice and opinion on those two, or whatever got you thinking about RP.

[–]RPWolfAlpha_as_Wolf_2.00 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. Buy him a copy of all 3 Rational Male books, hand them to him and say, "I would appreciate it if you read these, I think you will find them helpful." and leave it at that. He has to want to change, you can't make him.

[–]JacquesOffDerrida0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Check out this thread and the comments.

I’d first look at the two Nicola Method ebooks. See if that gives him something simple to go on.

[–]red-sfpplusHard Core Red-2 points-1 points  (6 children) | Copy

The fact that I'm 17 doesn't help.

Since we're Bulgarian

So do you look like a young terrorist or not? That is all you need to be concerned with here.

through my RP lenses

If you were RP - your would give zero fucks. Dad or not. Your energy and focus would be on yourself - the only person you can help.

Any advice

Dont look like a terrorist and focus on yourself.

[–]SorcererKingMod / Red Beret0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy

No, no, no. Bulgarians are the ones who look like thugs for the Soviets. Albanians are the terrorists.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

So soviet terrorists?

[–]friendandadvisor0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Bulgarians are the ones who look like thugs for the Soviets.

So, IOW, they get laid like tile.

[–]SorcererKingMod / Red Beret1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I've never heard Bulgarians whine about not getting laid, no.

[–]red-sfpplusHard Core Red-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

Which are the ones that sell the rugs?

[–]RPeed2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Haberdashers



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