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Will women start becoming less attractive as a whole in coming years?

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March 19, 2019

With the massive increase in men with practically no standards, aside from the fact that women compete with each other, what motivation do they really have to stay attractive?

It seems the percentage of land whales is increasing daily. Swiping through Tinder, about 1/50 swipes are actually fuckable. This also applies to what I see in person.

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Title Will women start becoming less attractive as a whole in coming years?
Author SenorSwole
Upvotes 92
Comments 101
Date 19 March 2019 12:48 AM UTC (1 year ago)
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[–]hot_soup1977 points78 points  (5 children) | Copy

I think the young ones are actually becoming more attractive. Social media is encouraging them all to compete to be Chad's whore

[–]SenorSwole 1 points [recovered]  (4 children) | Copy

I literally just passed the biggest whale on earth and she was holding hands with a Chad.

Maybe the surface level is deceiving me but I’m seeing lots of conflicting evidence

[–]King-Manlet8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

You’re not thinking about the rest of them, you’re just focusing on those few.

[–]hot_soup196 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

It might be becoming a bimodal distribution

[–]ayylma0883 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

He is probably just her fckbuddy but she acts if she was the only one or as if they were a couple ( to show off / to feel good and not like the whoe she actually is / to "live the dream)

[–]RedSkeller3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Go to a college campus in America, there are a large majority of women that look like they eat straight mayo and got dumped in a vat of toxic chemicals. Then every so often there is a hot one, but there is less of an in between. So it is an overwhelming majority of SJW trash which is why you see that.

[–]menial_optimist77 points78 points  (6 children) | Copy

No no and no. There will always be chads walking around. It don't matter if 5% of the male population were chads and 95% obese geeks. Seeing a chad here or there up close is enough for most women to go all out on their appearance.

[–]SenorSwole 1 points [recovered]  (5 children) | Copy

So you’re saying all women would compete for this 5%.

Actually you do have a point. Women compete for the top 20% and ignore the bottom 80%.

[–]Quantum_Jiraiya 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

“High SMV dudes will compete for 7’s.”

Yeah. How are you looking at/setting up your ranking?

If you are ranking people linearly (same number of 2’s and 5’s and 9’s etc), then a dude at the top 20% would be “equivalent” to an 8.

If you are ranking people on a bell curve, not much changes, but a guy at the top 20% is probably pursuing 6’s or 7’s as his “equivalent” on this scale.

If you’ve read the pill and lived in society though, you’d also understand most 8’s don’t want to settle for a top 20% guy when they can get railed by the top 5%. The top 1% NFL bound tight end is fine with banging a different 7 or 8 every week.

Look at it this way: Almost ANY woman can get laid. They can almost all get laid at the same rate.

The bottom 30% of guys are not getting laid. The middle 40% are getting seldomly laid. It is really the only top 30% that get laid with any real frequency, and realistically the top 10% that can be choosy in college (7+ etc) without locking down in a relationship.

If this is new to you at all you need to revisit the main sub

[–]Nergaal6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

Actually you do have a point. Women compete for the top 20% and ignore the bottom 80%.

Tinder actually made it 95-5 from the traditional 80-20

[–]ayylma0881 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Just read this after posting. Exactly!! You get it. Women get sooo much validation and have so many guys throwing attention at them ... it is really 95-5 these days

[–]ayylma0881 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Hypergamy. There will always be a top 20% and women will always want to mate with it.

What you are referring to however is the imbalance we are having these days. Sloots have so many sources of validation (insta, snapchat, facebook, twitter, tinder, similar apps) they shift more and more towards the upper 15%, 10%, 5% ... and so on.

Because as you stated no matter how ugly. She will still get attention and validation which in turn will make her think that she actually deserves it. Meanwhile the guy just wants to pump and dump ... but in order to pump he needs to at least fake some minimal interest... therefore the cycle continues.

[–]jaw862511 points12 points  (8 children) | Copy

I went to Rutgers, and I have to say 80% of the women who went there were disgusting. Overweight, no effort into appearance, wearing pajamas to class, radical feminists. The 20% that were hot basically got passed around by the fraternities. I only got with some of them because I had a really nice apartment and drugs/alcohol.

[–]friendswithcocaine2 points3 points  (6 children) | Copy

What kind of drugs though?

[–]jaw86252 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy

Cocaine will always bring women around

[–]friendswithcocaine0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

I can imagine

[–]jaw86250 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

I dont really use it anymore though. Ive found the ultimate sex drugs to be crystal and GHB. GHB has a bad stigma because its claimed to be a "date rape drug". But once I explain what it really is to girls they are usually willing to take it with me. About 20 mins after dosing you get that molly type feeling of wanting to touch each other except your boner is absolutely raging and ready to go. Most wild, uninhibited, animalistic sex you can imagine follows

[–]friendswithcocaine2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Total primal mode, haha

[–]jaw86250 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Had G sex three times this week. Usually mix with a little adderal to add a kick. Its been a good week lol

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy


[–]Cazken65 points66 points  (24 children) | Copy

We’re all becoming less and less attractive. MUCH Lower average testosterone, less exercise, processed foods that fuck up your face development and foods with estrogen inside of them.

[–]Bruchibre24 points25 points  (1 child) | Copy

Yes. Time to become gay.

[–]ZeppKfw5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Got me thinking, being gay is just waay easier lol

[–]StopGaming123415 points16 points  (20 children) | Copy

Where do you live?

[–]SenorSwole 1 points [recovered]  (19 children) | Copy

SoCal. An hour from LA

[–]ATLASV55131 points32 points  (7 children) | Copy

East Bay here. Same situation lol. There are dozens of guys competing over 5/10s.

[–]iwviw16 points17 points  (6 children) | Copy

You fellas need to come to nyc. Moved back after 13 years in Miami. Nyc is for sure without a doubt where it’s at to be out numbered by hot women

[–]mangoat12 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

Miami isn’t? I’m surprised

[–]iwviw0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It’s ok but more materialistic. In nyc you can be s normal or even below avg and you’ll get mad play

[–]rollinirishboi0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Nah man austin texas!

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

New york state, especially the city, is extremely cucked.

Source: new yorker

[–]ValorElite0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Can you please elaborate? Thinking about moving to NYC after college

[–]Merica911-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah I'm from Boston and 49/50 girls here are smashable.

The OP needs to move. Cali is a shit hole

[–]StopGaming123410 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

When I go through my city I find a lot of girls fuckable, especially at night when all the sluts come out. But you are right about the university part. It seems to be a new trend to look like a femist/health activist from the 70s.

[–]MHeroAnki6 points7 points  (5 children) | Copy

Garden Grove brotha. I see this as an opportunity to increase my SMV by doing the bare minimum the average man doesn’t do (but of course not stopping there)

[–]SenorSwole 1 points [recovered]  (3 children) | Copy

This isn’t my worry though. I’m concerned that eventually the hottest women will be current-day 5s.

I’m not talking about men, I’m talking about women.

[–]MHeroAnki5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

I don’t think that’s wholly realistic in the social media / online validation era.

[–]SenorSwole 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

Maybe not. But then again, how many women would actually care enough to become hotter if they are already getting so much validation?

[–]MHeroAnki0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Women are already doing that now, and there’s always going to be high status guys to swing branches to. We’re outnumbered surely but not nearly as competitive as women.

[–]cuteman-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Hb and Newport are just a few miles away.

[–]Oakester1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

You must live near the inland empire

[–]pollodustino0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The university thing is kind of its own microcosm. I'm in Orange County and the college girls are mostly all the same, very basic and homogeneous. That said, there's still a good mix of styles and fun, down-to-earth girls out there, and they often go out on Friday and Saturday nights. The best places I've found for that are downtown Fullerton and Old Town Orange, though they certainly have their supply of stuck up broads you have to wade through.

Also, it depends on what university you're going to. All the four years tend to have a greater supply of entitled girls who think they don't have to do much, while the community colleges have a lot of great, interesting, and fun girls. I've been OCC, IVC, Saddleback, and SAC over the years and they all have great girls there.

[–]huey764-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Ventura County?

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

I go to college an hour from la too. Wya?

[–]OrzhovPalatine17 points18 points  (9 children) | Copy

Its supply and demand at the end of the day. I wouldn't use tinder to measure the quality of women, it's already the clearance bin for the most part.

The sexual market place always auto adjusts itself. Keep your SMV high and don't worry about it

[–]SenorSwole 1 points [recovered]  (7 children) | Copy

That’s true. I’m just sick of going on a mandatory whale watch every time I go to class

[–]OrzhovPalatine7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

Also FyI the hottest chicks aren't at school, they're the associate at the mall or the cashier. A beautiful chick doesn't need to get an education, there's no shortage of care taking betas that wife them up. Ugly girls gotta get an education cause they can't count on that.

[–]pollodustino0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Or they're at school but it's a junior college, because they need to work to pay for school, or they're trying to save money by getting their associate's degree first.

[–]OrzhovPalatine1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

Meh, there's a market for whales believe it or not. Some dudes gotta practice and some girls gotta go get actual careers.

[–]SenorSwole 1 points [recovered]  (3 children) | Copy

That’s my point. I think that market is increasing. So more whales will migrate from ocean to land is my worry

[–]OrzhovPalatine2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

You aren't buying what they're selling so go else where

[–]SenorSwole 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

Yeah just gotta find time to do it. Academics are a bitch

[–]OrzhovPalatine2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Do that first, find your purpose and then the women come

[–]Project_Zero_Betas1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

The sexual market place always auto adjusts itself. is efficient.


[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (2 children) | Copy

with the rise of fat acceptance movements and the "i don't need no man, so I won't give a shit about the pimple nuke that exploded on my face and wont work out. Pls date me", u can expect that many men will turn homos in the following years due to a lack of humans who are functionally and physically (not just biologically) considered females.

[–]neek0la0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

And there's always MGTOW

[–]TheFlyingPro4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

If you are American you live in the country with the highest obesity rates, so your perspective is somehow biased.

I’m pretty sure instagram is making bitches increasingly more worried about their looks.

[–]Slut_Slayer900016 points17 points  (5 children) | Copy

Honestly it doesn't really matter.

Strive to be top 20% man at minimum and get your choice of women who actually give a fuck.

Women WILL always be vain, you have to understand the truly unattractive women are more non existent than the most Incel guy you know. Why? At least the Incel has more earning power, no body gives a fuck about the unattractive woman. Yeah they might be on tinder but they'll probably delete the app once they understand the only guys they attract are hideous. If anything social media has made beauty standards higher for women. I wouldn't concern myself with this type of thinking, its truly a waste of time.

[–]SenorSwole 1 points [recovered]  (4 children) | Copy

I’m almost convinced any woman can get laid if she has a vagina.

It may be a waste of time, but I am truly sick of this permanent whale safari

[–]Slut_Slayer90008 points9 points  (3 children) | Copy

I get where you are coming from and why you feel that way but people who think like this are projecting their insecurities. They wish it was as easy for them to get laid as women and thats honestly just not the right way to think about it, its not gonna help you at all.

So do what I and most other attractive men do, ignore the uglies, their existence literally doesn't even compute in my brain. Do you think attractive women ponder what incels are doing all day? Definitely not. Lions don't concern themselves with the matters of the sheep.

[–]SenorSwole 1 points [recovered]  (2 children) | Copy

Lol don’t assume shit dude. I just don’t like ugly bitches. I just wish there was more eye/dick candy as it seems to be getting rarer by the minute

[–]Turkerthelurker5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

We deal with the obesity epidemic and there will be a lot more attractive people. As the counter-culture becomes popular culture, we'll see a swing towards more traditional ideals, and this will improve.

Or we'll see massive amounts of violence and unrest, and that also has a way of enforcing traditional values.

The only certainty is that the steady encroachment of SJWs and degeneracy into popular culture is unsustainable. How long that swing will take is up to debate, but personally I think we're already in the early stages of it.

Regardless, improving yourself physically, mentally, and spiritually is the only sure course of action.

[–]stare_at_the_sun3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

This convo makes me feel ugly wow

[–]ZeppKfw2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Well I think you're very beautiful in the inside and the outside :))

[–]EternallyRed2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

If only one in fifty swipes are fuckable, your profile and pictures must be terrible. Tinder ranks you based on the quality of the likes you receive. If only landwhales are appearing, you’re only getting liked by them.

[–]Startlivingfornow1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

As obesity increases, the number of available attractive women goes down and the number of available options each individual woman has increases.

Basically, the price of pussy is going up in western countries . . .

[–]baeslick0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Dude, first, get off Tinder. Waste of your time. Second, yes there is some more egalitarianism in the SMP, but otherwise you're still playing the same game your ancestors were, except now you have the chance to become Superman, so people have no excuse but to become the best version of themselves. Just focus on yourself and find the people you want to have a good time with, and who you want to spend the rest of your life with. If you build it, they will come.

[–]pridebrah0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Just focus on yourself and find the people you want to have a good time with, and who you want to spend the rest of your life with. If you build it, they will come.

Sums it up.

[–]ayylma0880 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Depends on how advanced sex dolls/robots will get. I think in about 20 years time noone will need women for satisfacrion of basic instincts anymore

[–]Blazerman_240 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The validation they get from social media is enough to ensure that your point will never be the case. You know how many women are famous on IG just for being pretty and having a fat ass. They literally bring nothing else to the table.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

With the massive increase in men with practically no standards, aside from the fact that women compete with each other, what motivation do they really have to stay attractive?

This has happened and is getting worse, as evidenced by the obesity epidemic and the fact that women gain weight while in relationships and then lose it when looking for their next boyfriend.

[–]SalporinRP0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Ehh. There are more landwhales for sure but the validation from social media means there's tons more fitness girls who work out so they can take pics of their ass in yoga pants.

[–]tothetopbaby10 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I don’t where you located, but I see a new bitch I’d fuck everyday

[–]sp1cytaco0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

They keep staying the same, you are the one getting less attractive

[–]SenorSwole 1 points [recovered]  (3 children) | Copy

How does their attractiveness depend on mine? If anything it would be the opposite.

Read before you contribute.

[–]sp1cytaco1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

they don't... just saying at one point we all become unattractive and change due to father time. But women will still be women

[–]red2hilt-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

How does their attractiveness depend on mine?

actually for your tinder example, tinder will match you with equally attractive people. called your elo score. celebs get matched with celebs, fatsos with fatsos.

work out or get better pics, maybe professional pics. you'll see a change in the women it presents to you, instantly.

if you're getting shown 2's and 3's, you're a 2 or 3.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

of course, they already have been over the last 30 years.

70% of women are obese or overweight, and the rates are rising.

they care less about their appearance now because they can be lazy ugly gluttons and still get massively more attractive men than themselves.

[–]SaucySasquatch-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

Yeah, chicks are getting fatter over time, and probably using more makeup tactics to compensate. But Do some research before you misinform people. Under 30% of females in the U.S. are obese.. not 70%...

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

i said 70% are obese or overweight.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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