First Date: Girl Gave Out Number In Front Of Me

This is my thought after thinking about it. You literally met her the same day you matched with her. It's all in it's extreme infancy. Just brush it off now, don't worry about it. Can't do anything more about that incident. Plus you don't really have anything with a girl until you screw her, basically, and have no right even then (and these days less so too) to make her do anything. But what you can lay down are expectations either directly or indirectly.

Think of this situation of yours as a high quality problem. Others want your girl. Technically there is little you can do if someone wants to fuck your girl or if she wants to fuck someone else. Its going to happen anyway. Plus you have no banged her. So don't get jealous or possessive too much. Maybe she will like that later on, but if she likes it now she is damaged goods.

You could have said to the first text "I do. Enjoy getting your new best buddy's phone number?" Thats all you should have said, you're onto her, even if its innocent.

You know why it was immediate and she didn't do the "i had a good time' text - because you probably caught her out or it was a suss situation she found herself in. She is in town yes and she probably networks like this all the time, but its a bother to her because she was out with you.

That guy saw you two were on a date and sent over drinks anyway. Its the prickiest of moves ever. He may wish he was on that date - but he wasn't. To have the number swap thing is just a smack to the senses. I agree, but you can't show it.

Notice how she said "I thought I made that clear to you" So she doesn't want to not keep talking to you, we don't know why if its for more outtings or some dick, but we do know she wants you to tow the line. is that because she just wants to see you and damn the situation that happened - or is it to simply save face where she thinks 'if he pikes out on me, at least there's others'...

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So don't let yourself pike out. Come through for her. She is not attached to you but she does like you. She may also not want you causing a scene in case it comes back to bite her somehow. But I don't think she is thinking that bad. She realized her mistake and got in contact immediately. Your silence was a form of dread to her.

A thing I always used to say to girls was "I don't care what you do - so long as you go home with me" This is when we would go out to nightclubs, bars, and I was in a major stage of being no ones man. I was young back then. It always worked to those I said it to, but its not some cure-all, imagine. What is, is the line in the sand, no matter how you get it across but do try to avoid confrontation. Silent treatment is ok.

It draws a clear line of expectation and remember she wants to meet your expectations.

IF by your actions or words you somehow indicate you have low expectations of her, or no expectations (where appropriate) then she will only ever try to live up to them; well its especially true for loose girls or girls who don't hold themselves in a good moral way. And these days where social norms are constantly cast aside and bad manners abounds.

The girl I mentioned in my post far above who gave her number out and swapped numbers really said she will delete his number when I pinned her for it. Big deal because he can still call. She said she wasn't interested either and it was in front of me. It was highly rude. Kicked her to the curb at the first opportunity. Forget now if it was that night, or the next time when her behavior was bad again but for something else.

Never forget about your girls thing that night. It will provide you with the motivation to do what is right when/if the time comes.

Depends how much hand you have. I said to her 'what the hell you think you're doing. Delete it" or something similar. 'You're on a "date" with me [and I acted hot toward this girl, she loved it] so no number counts. I'd ask you to do the same if I did that."

She says she doesn't mind what I do - I say nah you're on a date with me. Delete it or go home.

Well not because she wanted to be moral about it, she just wanted a good night so she deleted it in front of me. In that case it really had only anything to do with her selfish desires. They always say that "I don't like him" "he doesn't have a chance".

Yuh. Until he does have a chance. This is how you would look at it, don't give another a chance. Blot out this bitches sun.

Your girl she went over because of the gesture and his business transaction was complete; must think his super beta move had paid off, but only you can let him get away with it. You were rightfully questioning it internally but you went too far so as to lose your cool a bit. Sure going quiet in this instance ruins your own date - but it was also a good thing because you don't want to participate in her bullshit.

Until she behaves well enough she can't continue with you, so it was a good, honest move.

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Don't worry about the gung-ho nature of some posters if thats not you. Giving her the silent treatment is a good thing, not a bad thing.

This all suggests to me even though her texts she chides you, that you have a lot more going for you than just some red pill awareness. There's looks, game, red pill, means and wealth, competency on dates/outings, good in bed. Not just one thing - women want a package.

But escalate next time you see her. She's into you in some way, and if she denies your advances, leave immediately. Thats because she may currently be just trying to string you along, though I don't think its that, thats a stop-gap, she doesn't know you well enough yet.... but if you're ever out having fun with a girl like that, escalate on her. Sit close, brush up against her or her against you apart from whatever else is going on, maybe her foot touches yours on purpose (a common one), shoulders touch, hands brush, get cosy with her. Look into her face, look at her mouth, dont move away, move closer and kiss her. If she even looks a tiny bit like she wants to be kissed, then kiss. Don't have to kiss her all night though she may try that, stay in control of yourself.

Try to make that happen in the first half of the next date if there is one. Pick a place this time that is not too far away, just do drinks, has a lounge/or sit down area where people can sit side by side, don't sit across from her. If you happen to be somewhere where its not going to happen, go for a walk, change venue.

Only one time ever have I been walking with a girl on the way and I wanted to kiss her, and did I stop her and she didn't want to be kissed then. But she still kissed and she liked me, but didn't want to kiss. This girl left me in bar one night when some mofo came to pick her up. We saw each other sparringly as it was but she definitely ditched me that night. If a girl doesn't want to get intimate with you on a date - the night is over. Its why she is there, and later have sex. If thats not the case or if she is entering moves towards other guys, something is up.

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In your situation the reasonable explanation and probably true is that she is in town for a bit, yes, but also look at how quick you met, she is meeting fast, so she's not one to tie down easily maybe, but because you also just met its not like anything is solid between you no matter the fun. If you were a man-whore it may have been you who was doing the number thing, but you're not being on. She is just looking for more suitors though she is not swapping numbers explicitly for sex. She just swapped numbers.

And that guy probably bullshitted to her. It was a big dick move, but now just look past it, you have some crap going for you, she apparently wants to meet again, and next time escalate like a mofo. I approach these things from the perspective of I wonder if she wants to kiss me and there's only one way to find out. Never count on her kissing you but do count on her accepting the kiss. Its got to be like that. If she ever denies it (though of course there's heaps of kino) you just stand up and leave. Never happened to me, but thats what I would do. UNLESS its just way to early, and its a little kiss. Thats the other thing, get the kino-ball rolling with her, but don't do anything too crazy too soon. If you give her a small ass kiss the first time also thats no big deal if you're she's sucking you down in 30 minutes. EG you're walking and turn your heads to kiss each other a bit but because its walking you don't stop, maybe you laugh at some shit and keep walking.

Anyway I will just repeat myself if I go on. She is a tinder girl, but if you do see her again, its a rare tinder beast that does this, see someone with no nookies twice but it does happen and a fair bit I'd say; you may not come across this for a long time (i.e you consider it a wash on your behalf). If she sees you again forget the last night, its not a big deal, go for it.

EDIT: Final warning: she's only in town for a bit - connection? Stop thinking like that. She doesn't care. Escalate hard at a close by venue, get her to yours after normal procedures, or forget about her. Tell her at some point you'll take her somewhere after this to make out if you're not already doing it. Whatever you do. Don't disappoint her. Get this slut giddy and then giddy her up. The reason you bring it to a test point is to get it out in the open as in "are we going to make out or what"; if you suggest the above it sets an expectation.

Ask yourself what sort of girl meets someone on the first tinder day conversation. She is someone who is expecting a bit of fun, and if sex happens it happens. She's not one to quibble so long as you lead her down the path and you are a proper mack to her and not a rapist. A proper mack doesn't let up and at most pulls back and tries again from other angles, until it succeeds or breaks, without the cops needing to be involved.