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new plate hits me with "the gap between us is huge" crap

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March 28, 2019

i got her at a fundraiser in college, hb7, submissive, semi-traditional, been fucking me for 3 weeks now. she pushed for the LTR status last week, i let her know that shit don't come easy and not gonna get into that kind relationship with a girl anytime soon. she stays, keeps fucking me and hits me with "i feel like the gap between us is huge, ur gonna get bored of me and drop me", maybe i presented myself with higher value than i have, who knows. i took it as a comfort test but replied that i ain't gonna take such drastic measures as long as she keeps behaving.

thought that was the end of it. yesterday she let me know she has gotten into an LTR, not to be insulting but the guy seems like a total loser, she's a few notches higher than him in terms of smv. today she comes over, we fuck, i say i ain't got a single problem with her being somebody's gf. she honestly talks that she was afraid to be left alone and this LTR gives her stability, but on the other hand can't get enough of me and is willing to stay in both "relationships".

i don't see how im being played here, is whatever the fuck she's babbling about close to truth or im too stupid to see what's going on? she said she's scared to be on her own, meaning she can't get into serious shit with me and found a guy for comfort? in that case i pity that dude.

him = beta

me = alpha

or is this some deep ass machiavellian shit?

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Title new plate hits me with "the gap between us is huge" crap
Author lolurfucked
Upvotes 107
Comments 121
Date 28 March 2019 02:34 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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[–]boy_named_su297 points298 points  (4 children) | Copy

who cares? she disqualified herself from an LTR with you, because she's a cheating whore

keep plating her and have fun

[–]lolurfucked[S] 98 points99 points  (0 children) | Copy

that's the plan, sir

[–]TheBunk_TB36 points37 points  (0 children) | Copy

Unfortunately, I agree with you. If there was a time to prove one's self, she didnt pick this time.

[–]TheHumbleAfrican10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy


[–]friggandfrayed6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

on the money with this

[–]OrzhovPalatine61 points62 points  (9 children) | Copy

I dont see what the problem is. You're getting what you want, she's insecure cause you won't commit and wants beta guy as comfort and to push you to do something. I've had plates in the past mention they were getting serious with another guy that was way below me just to push me into committing.

Again don't see what you're problem is, don't expend so much effort for a plate

[–]lolurfucked[S] 28 points29 points  (8 children) | Copy

no, dude, i got no issues. this is a learning experience for me and im trying to wrap my head around that is all.

[–]OrzhovPalatine27 points28 points  (7 children) | Copy

Believe me you haven't seen anything yet. Your situation is just the most common. Moment you start sleeping with married women with beta male providers you start to look at things differently.

[–]lolurfucked[S] 4 points5 points  (6 children) | Copy

mind to elaborate? im curious what u mean

[–]OrzhovPalatine43 points44 points  (5 children) | Copy

I ran into Red pill from the PUA community and still was trying to be purple pill. I wanted to believe badly that NAWALT but I kept running into women who proved AWALT.

I had a plate who was recently married to my own primary doctor. Dude was a great guy, hung out with him once but his only flaw was he was boring to her. While he was working his ask off his new wife was blowing me at his house. Thats when it hit me this shit is legit.

[–]D4rkr4in13 points14 points  (2 children) | Copy

hope he doesn't find out before ur prostate exam

[–]OrzhovPalatine2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Nah hes never gonna know.

[–]lampshade281821 points22 points  (0 children) | Copy

Because that never happened. Sounds so made up.

[–]lolurfucked[S] 17 points18 points  (0 children) | Copy

fuck that bitch.


[–]Buchloe51 points52 points  (18 children) | Copy

She's playing her bf, not you. Why would you date someone who cheats on her bf anyway? Keep fucking her if you want and don't take her seriously.

[–]lolurfucked[S] 24 points25 points  (17 children) | Copy

dating? taking her seriously? fuck no.

im using her for sex the same way she uses guys for various reasons.

eye for an eye.

[–]Buchloe2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Gotcha. I just don't see what your hang up or concern was. Just trying to understand why she's like that/what it means? I think it means she wants dick but wants security as well. You gave her dick but not security. She tried for it, but you had boundaries. So now she has your dick and his security (though she was probably originally just trying to make you jealous but it didn't work). Good for her I guess-- she's getting her needs met, and the hamster is doing its job of alleviating her of any awareness of inconsistencies in her actions in regards to cheating on this other dude. But I'd say you have the better end of the deal.

[–]1redhawkes21 points22 points  (0 children) | Copy

You got it right. The guy is used as a safety net, the same way how branch swinging works.

Keep plowing her and don't break frame.

[–]1FixYourselfFirst24 points25 points  (0 children) | Copy

Don't overthink this. This is the true nature of women.

[–]bruiser1819 points20 points  (0 children) | Copy

She fucked you while in a relationship. She is a slut. Fuck her and don’t care about her.

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev9 points10 points  (10 children) | Copy

Sometimes, insecurity > AWALT over shorter periods of time.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Could you elaborate? I don't understand

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

Women will sometimes peremptorily reject a guy who they regard as too much higher than they are in terms of SMV, because they know they're going to get pumped and dumped.

Not precisely what happened here, but recall that she said:

"i feel like the gap between us is huge, ur gonna get bored of me and drop me"

She's insecure about only being a meat puppet for the OP, so she locked down a loser beta who she can control. That will work for her in the short term, but hypergamy will eventually kick in.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Pre-rejection. Got it. It's interesting that you say hypergamy will eventually kick in though, how so? I stop observing girls once they pre-reject me so haven't seen that arc

[–]conk20008 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

Women are all about finding ways to have the cake and eat it too.

You were the alpha fucks, but she felt you were lacking in the beta bucks. She found a low SMV with an unhealthy self esteem, and now she has her beta security while still gettkng her rocks off.

I would recommend vetting the new beta boyfriend to see if he is mentally unstable. No point in keeping a plate at the risk of an insecure other guy who finds out he is getting cucked.

[–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet6 points7 points  (3 children) | Copy

You're more at fault here than you realize. Since the issue is rather convoluted I'm gonna break it down for you.

The whole reason she felt there was a "huge gap" and needed to remedy it by finding a stable boyfriend was because you failed to apply Control Game.

Whether you intend on letting a girl become a girlfriend or not, you should be giving her clear instructions and expectations to follow, that way she FEELS like her world has rules and boundaries. Her anxiety came from your lack of interest in her general behaviour and lack of expectations.

Indifference and aloofness work fine in the very early stages of interacting with a girl. But the more total time you've spent with her, the less your indifference appears to be genuine. If you were actually indifferent, you'd just go no-contact. Instead, your indifference looks like cowardice and an inability to take control. So she becomes afraid and looks for stability somewhere, even if it's in the fiction of a "stable relationship" with a "good guy".

Expectations and leadership are not reserved only for girls you have awarded with committment. You should be bossing around any and every girl, whether they're plates, FWBs, or potential girlfriend material. You only make into a girlfriend that girl(s) who not only obeys, but also invests in you in kind.

Read my "Guide To Training Bitches" for a comprehensive explanation.

[–]organicfluxx1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

In what ways should a plate be bossed around?

[–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Tell her what you like and expect her to comply. For a plate, that would be things like:

"I'm coming over. Wear a t-shirt with your bare legs hanging out and no panties."

"For the next time I come over, have a bag of my favourite chips in your pantry."

"Next time you're sucking my dick, look into my eyes."

That sort of thing.

Reward her in small ways when she obeys to reinforce the desired behaviour. Call her a good girl, give her multiple orgasms, cuddle with her for just a little after sex.

[–]lolurfucked[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

alright, i will :)

[–]spndxwra4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

LOL.. u dont see it?

she's lying to you ( there is no other LTR) to get you to commit.. machiavellian crap mate

[–]Jfc_Manners2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I once dumped a girl for trying this. BLEW HER FUCKING MIND lol

[–]T-P-T-W-P3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

I tend to be willing to let girls cheat with me initially, but I’m not too big on actively sharing or being the other guy, especially if the others they’re fucking with or dating are well below me in SMV. You have to think about STD’s, trying to pass off a pregnancy as yours, them being dishonest with the other dude and him slashing your tires or some shit, etc. She is a cheating hoe tho so she’s recused herself from any position beyond play thing. Really depends on your SMV and current situation. I’d probably say find another plate of similar quality if easily available, less hassle and less variables to deal with but I definitely understand how it’s hard to let go if the puss is good. Personally, I’m pretty quick to cut any plate that isn’t noticeably above my average lay if they raise some definitive red flags just because my SMV is high enough to where I can usually replace them without an incredible amount of trouble. You’re probably good to keep banging her but I’d continuously assess just so you stay out ahead of things.

[–]PoppyVetiver3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy


[–]idontevenlift375 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

You’ve cucked a beta boy whilst proving AWALT, this girl made it clear that she’s not LTR material. Hypergamy at its finest.

[–]lolurfucked[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy


[–]ultimatrev66611 points12 points  (24 children) | Copy

Honestly, unless you *NEED* her to get your jolly off because you can't get it elsewhere, I'd seek out the guy she's in a LTR with and tell him she's cheating, then ghost her.

[–]lolurfucked[S] 11 points12 points  (22 children) | Copy

the guy looks like he's been taken advantage of his whole life, if he dumps this one, someone else will come along. from the looks of it, she's totally using him, not giving him any pussy & he's still happy about it. i mean what can i do? lol

i got 1 more plate and another not so consistent girl, so, no, i don't "need" her.

[–]SeasonedRP11 points12 points  (4 children) | Copy

-not giving him any pussy & he's still happy about it

Don't believe that for a second. Married women do this too. They lie and say they never sleep with their husbands anymore, etc. etc. But their husbands have no plans to ever leave; they supposedly just accept sexless existences. Right. Once you've been around women for a while, you'll start seeing patterns with their lies.

[–]lolurfucked[S] 11 points12 points  (3 children) | Copy

she reads his texts and laughs about it while scratching my balls. he ain't getting any pussy at this particular moment, she has him on the leash, trying to make him provide much more or else he gets no penetration. pretty shitty thing to do, even for a girl. i've seen shit like this on numerous occasions. other than feeling sorry for the guy, i don't give a fuck as long as she blows me whenever i call her. maybe i'll tip the guy about how he's being fucked in the ass, but he'll probably run to her crying "i dont believe ur really like that baby" and will blow the whole damn thing

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy

I had this happen once as a teenager, except I didn't know about her beta provider for about the first month of our casual relationship. Eventually my mind pieced it together and I messaged the dude on facebook, because I felt bad cucking him. He got angry at me, and threatened to kill me. I was completely innocent and his "girlfriend" was the one playing both of us, yet he directed all of his anger at me.

I don't see anything good occurring if you contact him. The kindest thing you could do is to keep fucking his girl, because one day when he finds out on his own, it will completely crush all of his feelings and destroy his mind. Then maybe the beta male will die and something better can be reborn. Pain is the ultimate teacher.

[–]lolurfucked[S] 6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

it will completely crush all of his feelings and destroy his mind

^ how 99% of trp guys ended up here. no harm in that.

[–]SolarTortality6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

That’s how I got here lol. I’ve gone from “hey stop fucking my girlfriend” to “sorry bro I’m fucking your girlfriend”

[–]ultimatrev6669 points10 points  (2 children) | Copy

Good deal.

I suppose I still feel for the other guy though. Like, I know you're not obligated to do him any favors, but you could possibly turn his life around if you helped him learn about TRP. I've been cheated on thrice in my life before I got the message, thus I'd help someone if I was in a position to do so.

[–]lolurfucked[S] 12 points13 points  (1 child) | Copy

agreed, i've been cheated on brutally, only then i opened my eyes to trp. see, in my experience, guys like that don't "come around" just by being told so. i will probably do something about it, but not sure it's gonna help the poor bastard.

[–]ultimatrev6660 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Aye, he may very well not listen to reason. :(

[–]conk20001 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Giving the opportunity for the beta to breakup with the cheating plate could help him grow some balls. There is a sense of confidence as the power changes hands when the guy has become the dump-er instead of the dump-ee.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (9 children) | Copy

How do you know he isn't taking advantage of her insecurities too? Nice guys are not as stupid as people think they are. He may be settling but the satisfaction of knowing she can't keep the commitment of the guys she really likes and the frustration it causes her might just make up for being cheated on for him.

Some guys may settle for less but they try to have fun with it.

[–]SolarTortality0 points1 point  (8 children) | Copy

Lol wut?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (7 children) | Copy

Just because a guy is a beta doesn't mean he's stupid. Different strategies.

[–]SolarTortality0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy

How does he get satisfaction from her not being able to get the guys she wants. Pure schadenfreude?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (5 children) | Copy

Pretty much yeah. He knows that every time she has sex with him (the beta) she's doing it out of duty or sexual frustration. Partly he feels bad, partly he gets a sadistic kick out of it. Of course not all betas are like this.

Another explanation is betas who are closeted gays and live vicariously through their cheating gfs, or get a kick out of being bossed around by women (ie women who are domineering and even sadistic with their beta partners but docile with chad. Little do those women know that some men get off on it).

It could be a combination of both too.

[–]SolarTortality2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Wow that’s so cringe. Not your comment itself but the situation and mindset you’ve described lol

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

It is. I've met a few guys like this. Some think Red Pillers are dumb for working so hard and that they are the smart ones, playing with the cards they are dealt and making the most out of having to lower their standards.

[–]pridebrah0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Pretty much yeah. He knows that every time she has sex with him (the beta) she's doing it out of duty or sexual frustration. Partly he feels bad, partly he gets a sadistic kick out of it. Of course not all betas are like this.

Yeah I think this is pretty damn rare because beta's are inherently beta because of their delusions (ie: she really loves me / I'm better than her ex! etc)

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Maybe he thinks he gives her something that Chad doesn't, and that makes him special somehow.

[–]pridebrah0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yep, agreed.

[–]sandal_on-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy

You write a post about her. If you were truly alpha (in general) you would have trouble not forgetting plates since they are plenty and chasing you.

[–]lolurfucked[S] 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

im not obsessing over shit , i got no mountain of chicks chasing me and i write shit here for my own educational purposes. that makes me a loser? ok.

[–]sandal_on0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You got riled up of a simple core problem and try to patch a simple symptom. Go fix your core problem first since it is very evident.

Besides you're clinging onto a plate who's in relationship, write about her in fear of manipulation and see you yourself as alpha in this context? You have no abundance. That is your problem.

[–]failingtheturingtest2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

You need to learn that it is not your responsibility to look after random people. If you're ever asking if telling someone they're being cheated on is a good idea, the answer is no. It will always cause you drama. Always!

So you only do this when you are willing to lose the friend and it's absolutely worth the drama.

[–]zxcvb78092 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

I think of it like buying cars. You don't buy a Bugatti not unless you are rich. You test drive a Bugatti. When you go to buy a car it is a Nissan, Ford, Toyota, KIA etc. A dude that is an alpha is a Bugatti. She can't have you but every chance she has to test drive you she is going to.

[–]lolurfucked[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

after reading that i feel 1000bhp revving up my dick rpms

[–]Anacondainahonda2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

she honestly talks that she was afraid to be left alone and this LTR gives her stability

i don't see how im being played here

You're not. You're getting what you want (sex) and she's mostly getting what she wants (sex with you and commitment with someone else) so what's the problem?

Many girls are afraid to be single and will happily get with someone they don't really like that much, just for the safety and companionship.

[–]HastaPronto902 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy


[–]classylassy283 points4 points  (4 children) | Copy

She's super insecure (under 25 I'm guessing?) And seems like a relationship hopper. A man who doesn't want to commit even to a ltr/st relationship drives majority of women away. Women can sence what a man has to offer her.

Just do what you want to do and don't worry about her.

[–]backtothebeginning11 1 points [recovered]  (3 children) | Copy

Rubbish, plenty of women are content being plates.

This is coming from the same person who said

Because a lot of what trp practices is bullshit, borderlines emotional abuse/ manipulation and is like a cult.

[–]classylassy28-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

Not shaming anyone?

Also it's true? Many of the ppl who follow are not normal red pill men.

[–]AnyDoughnut1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

She wants comfort. She found some schmuck for that, so continue to bang away. You get all of the benefits (no strings sex) and he gets all of the downsides (having to spend money on her).

[–]TheTastelessBatman1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Aren't you glad as hell that you're RP. You could have been on the other side of the equation had you been a simp. Good one mate. Just reinforces AWALT.

[–]2INNASKILLZ2K181 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Women do this shit. Seen it a lot on here recently.

They are fed all this stuff about how their look, and pussy should net them commitment, exclusivity etc, just for being a chick.

An alpha style guy comes along and breaks that illusion. All their feelings come up, and sense of lack of they run out and get an LTR, to calm their nerves. Many women can't handle shit stoicly, like men, so they reach out for validation and attention.

Then crazy thing is, they get the beta who commits, then despise him. This usually ends up in some sort of crisis and the old 'I dunno what I want'...while she rides your dick.

You gotta start expecting this stuff, and having amused mastery around it. See women's motivations better than they do.

There is advanced game you can run on this situation, where you leave them for a couple of weeks. Hit them up...tease them all about Billy Beta, and how unattractive a guy is who commits within a few weeks. Let her know YOU KNOW she ain't getting fucked right...tease her and show you don't give a fuck. Some take the bait, when you make them think with their pussy over their illogical head.

[–]jamesbond81810 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

How old are you and how old is she?

[–]lolurfucked[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

she's 22, im 25

[–]kayfab0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

use women as sex toys man, never believe what they tell you coming from a 46y old man who was around the bloc a few times.....

[–]BajaGhia0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Lots of good advice here. Find another playtoy and slowly disengage. But fuck her brains out for a while if it suits you.

[–]Wjourney0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

That bitch is crazy dip before the guy becomes suicidal and murders you in a drunken stupor

[–]z2a1-90 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Slay until she breaks not relationship worthy!

[–]lolurfucked[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

she has already, lol

[–]1walawalawa0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy

been fucking me for 3 weeks now. she pushed for the LTR status last week, i let her know that shit don't come easy and not gonna get into that kind relationship with a girl anytime soon.


"i feel like the gap between us is huge, ur gonna get bored of me and drop me",

Shit test

i took it as a comfort test


yesterday she let me know she has gotten into an LTR, not to be insulting but the guy seems like a total loser,

You have a lot to learn about spinning plates and female hypergamy. How can she suddenly be in a "LTR"? She's a plate, you shouldn't care.

in that case i pity that dude.

No, you envy that dude...

him = beta


me = alpha

You=beta with oneitis

or is this some deep ass machiavellian shit?

It's her snatching frame and you getting oneitis because you're ego invested.

Move on.

[–]lolurfucked[S] 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

do not take it personally but i fucking hate smart-ass comments like this one. everything i wrote both in the post and comments state that it's the other way around, yet you somehow manage to see through my facade and im suddenly envious of the guy whos gf im fucking and have oneitis for a girl that is basically my slave. on top of that, my ego is heavily invested coz apparently i don't give a fuck.


[–]1walawalawa0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

If you don't give a fuck, why are you asking for advice? She's a plate...a plate you're obsessing over and trying to qualify yourself to us about because she's sticking with another guy?

Come on.

[–]lolurfucked[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

asking for what's causing a certain female pattern because im new to trp is called obesssing? - ok

qualifying works if im put in a position where she chooses another guy? - hmm

i give a fuck because im asking for advice? - well, well, i should be know-it-all or im labelled as an insecure guy.

dude, nothing against you personally, but u should quit picking on people for no reason.

[–]1walawalawa0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

You come here for advice. We give it. You don't like it and you lash out. You're more Gamma than Alpha. If you're truly committed to understanding the Red Pill leave your ego at the door and open yourself up to real feedback.
You don't understand women and their hypergamous nature. You clearly don't understand shit tests and you have a very thin skin.

[–]lolurfucked[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

what you give is anything but advice. meaningless picking devoid of any intelligence and info would not be called advice around here.

[–]ChadTheWaiter1000 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

She’s been pumped and dumped many times already. That’s all it is.

[–]Praeger-1 points0 points  (6 children) | Copy

She hits me as being polyamorous.

She's wanting to be with both of you for different reasons - you might be the alpha physically and sexually, but he might be the alpha when it comes to other issues (emotional support, intelligence, wealth, whatever)

I wouldn't consider this a test - you've both been pretty clear.

I would suggest something - find out if he other guy knows and what she finds attractive about him - you could then either work together to keep her as a plate, and use this to gain others (poly chicks dig accepting men); or use this to figure out what he might have that you don't, and use that info to better yourself.

[–]SolarTortality2 points3 points  (5 children) | Copy

Cringe bro I’m cringing at you right now bro do you even redpill? Cringe

[–]Praeger-1 points0 points  (4 children) | Copy

I'm wandering if you do.

Red pill teaches you to find YOUR alpha trait and understand that others have differing alpha skills.

There's a reason why ugly rich men get what they want, or poor hippie dudes who play the guitar.

Use your knowledge connections and skills to advance and gain more, don't ever cripple yourself by not using opportunities.

[–]SolarTortality0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

I may have misinterpreted your previous comment, I was under the impression that you were saying to try and work with the beta to keep her as a plate... obviously that’s not what you were saying in hindsight. I redact my “cringe bro that’s so cringe”

[–]Praeger-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy

No No no lol

Your all good bro - I was more suggesting that he (alpha) talk to the other guy (beta) as he might know what's going on; and if so then alls cool, no need to worry about hiding anything, and you can use that as a tool to gain other plates.

From my experience poly chicks talk more then regular chicks, and if they find even one accepting dude then they'll all flock - and then you've instantly gained multi potential plates with zero effort.

[–]SolarTortality2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

I still don’t think it’s a good idea to talk to the beta, things could be volatile and go nuclear if you catch my drift

[–]Praeger0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah that's true. Don't want to lose a sure thing for a possibility.

[–][deleted] -5 points-4 points  (6 children) | Copy

she said she's scared to be on her own, meaning she can't get into serious shit with me and found a guy for comfort? in that case i pity that dude.

You should pity yourself, wasting your time being some hoe's sex toy.

[–]lolurfucked[S] 3 points4 points  (5 children) | Copy

I ain't wasting shit, she comes over when I feel horny and leaves when I hop back on my pc to work.

Don't be a smart ass.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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