Guy dates doctor, lies about being a doctor, gets laid.

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Title Guy dates doctor, lies about being a doctor, gets laid.
Author cover20
Upvotes 16
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Date 05 October 2014 02:55 PM UTC (6 years ago)
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[–]2349086524387952648719 points20 points  (1 child) | Copy

I had a one night stand, turns out she was wearing makeup the whole time, she lied to me, I was raped! Now I got PTSD and live on Tumblr.

[–]Endorsed Contributorleftajar9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy

Women CONSTANTLY LIE to inflate their SMV: makeup, fake tits, and high heels.

And those are only the visual lies. Nevermind women deflating their partner count, lying about their age, or neglecting to mention that they got divorced a few years back.

I don't recommend lying to women, not because it's immoral, but because it's the wrong mindset. Feeling like you have to lie to get laid is inherently beta.

[–]1cover20[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I prefer to think of it as role-playing. That's not beta, it's fun.

[–]1cover20[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Legal backgrounder (I am not a lawyer, evaluate my source for yourself but it looks convincing to me.) Those who say "men can lie, after all women do it all the time" are absolutely right, and the law recognizes it.

http://verdict.justia.com/2013/05/01/rape-by-deception-rape-by-impersonation-and-a-new-california-bill

The only kind of lie you can't tell, where the consent thereby obtained would be invalid in a rape trial, is to impersonate someone's lover or spouse. So you can't do what the nerd did to get sex with the hot girl in Revenge of the Nerds. But you can do practically anything else.

[–]Neo-ReactionaryHarry10 points11 points  (8 children) | Copy

Hahaha, what's wrong with lying to get laid? I swear sometimes this society doesn't see how being needlessly cruel and making men jump through dozens of hurdles(shit tests, frame, SMV, etc.) to get sex would have some men turn around and lie to make it easier.

Lying greases the wheels, you shouldn't lie about the important stuff but still I see nothing wrong with it. We're talking about sexual strategy, and strategy implements a set of tactics that work. If lying works as part of a tactics scheme, then it is a good strategy. There are all sorts of game like this, lying about job, lying about income, lying about places, lying about experiences, etc. I can't believe men shame other men for lying as being "emotionally manipulative" with regards to women. As if women don't take home the gold medal in lying and emotional manipulation every year. And so what if they figure out your lie? Big deal.

You best be believing in gender wars, you're in one!

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

Sexual strategy, like survival, is amoral.

[–]widec5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

I've been taught to lie since a young age. I remember one elementary school day where a teacher told us "Just be honest about why you didn't do your homework, I don't want to hear excuses". So the next day, when she asked a guy why he didn't do his homework, he said "I didn't feel like doing it" No matter how much he protested that he was just telling the truth, he still ended up getting detention. The rest of us took note and felt no guilt in lying about it.

Majority of the time people don't want to hear the truth, they just want to hear something that fits into their world view. It's never going to change, so you're going to have to lie to keep up some personal relationships. It's just a fact of life.

[–]ibuprofiend7 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy

You best be believing in gender wars, you're in one!

Exactly. Why is it considered morally wrong for a man to lie about his income? Because it makes it harder for women to find true alphas. Simple as that. "Bad for me" becomes "evil," just like Nietzsche said.

But of course women wearing makeup and heels, lying about their partner count, etc., is perfectly acceptable.

That double standard really shows who makes the rules.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

Exactly. Women lie all the fucking time. Hell they even lie when they get caught about lying!

A man has just as much right to lie to get in someone's pants as a woman does. That's what equality is all about for us.

I'm not gonna tell any woman I'm a doctor right off the bat, they'll just see money signs and beta bux. Guy is right to do what he did he's lying downwards it's not like he's lying upwards and he's really a burger flipper and claiming he's a heart surgeon.

[–]1cover20[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

That would be no worse in my opinion, both are fine if you choose to do them. Any lie to obtain consent is legal, meaning the consent thus obtained makes the sex consensual, except impersonating a woman's actual lover or spouse.

He was lying upwards. In his subculture of Indian medical people, a resident is above a med student. But the general advice applies: if you're gonna lie, tell a whopper!

[–]derkonigistnackt3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

sometimes I feel like a mercenary of sex, then I remember we all are. When I was underage I had to lie all the time to get older girls to "rape me"

[–]He770zz0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

This raises an interesting issue. Is deceit =/= strategy? Could you argue that part of your strategy is by obtaining through deceit?

[–]1cover20[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Of course deceit can be a part of strategy! Warfare is all about lies and also propaganda.

[–]ScottishIslander1 point2 points  (9 children) | Copy

Seems like a shitty strategy to me. He could have just told her he was a medical student. Probably would have worked out anyway, and then he wouldn't have to worry about keeping up the farce.

[–]bassivemalls7 points8 points  (5 children) | Copy

Current medical student here: would not have worked. In my experience this is how it works:

Med student seen as school boy to women --> Doctor seen as gods among men who shit gold.

[–]FreshGold0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Med student here also, can confirm.

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[–]bassivemalls0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

You get an advantage to girls in undergrad (i.e. lower in education/younger than you) and nursing students. Anyone on the same level (fellow med students) or older/more experienced (in OP's case, a doctor) you are seen as a school boy. But, the advantage you get being a med student over undergrad women and nursing students really is so much smaller than everyone thinks and certainly far lower than what I thought it would be before matriculating.

I think this is because women don't really appreciate how a man will get better over time; they want an alpha/beta bucks right this minute, not someone who will be making bank 10 years from now. Think about it: would you date a fat chick if you knew she would be hot in a decade, meanwhile you've got other attractive women who will fuck you right now? Don't think so. It's the same way with young guys building their careers--their potential doesn't do anything for them because they currently don't have anything to offer.

[–]1cover20[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

No, probably would not have worked out. In his culture it matters. He says that white women don't care but Indian women do. So it was a good strategy.

[–]CareBearTheProtector2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

The fact that he feels bad about lying to her saddens me. Nothing wrong with putting on a facade, if the goal is just getting laid. She must have been a good bang if he's wanting more from her. Poor guy.

[–]1cover20[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

I put a comment or two on the thread encouraging him to continue the story a bit longer. To get more sex, and to make a more solid personal connection before dropping the pretense.

Trickle truth works better than other strategies. That's why girls tend to use it, and so guys want to be on the lookout for it, but we may also benefit from using it ourselves.



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