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Am I Holding Frame Well or Just Being Stupid?

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April 5, 2019

Hey guys this is my first post on here. I'm in an LTR expecting marriage eventually if I choose to go down that route. This is my first red pilled relationship and as time progressed I fell back to beta blue pill habits and completely lost the frame. When you have oneitis it's really easy to throw the red pill away and act like you found the unicorn. We actually had a break up a few weeks back and I followed some red pill wisdom and it worked to perfection. She came back and fell into my frame and I was honestly blown away by the results! It was at that point that I was completely sold on the red pill.

Tonight my GF posted a story on her IG and her boobs were showing in it. She has very big tits so she says it's hard to keep them out of her page. She has posted more inappropriate pictures in the past and I felt insecure about it and was acting to beta to say anything. This time I DM'd her about the picture and said "Hot, but keep your tits off the gram." She replied "You can't tell me what to do!!!" I had been ignoring her texts during this time as well. About three hours later I responded and simply said "I don't like my girlfriends boobs to be on social media." In the past with her I have immediately jumped into argument with her, DEERing regularly etc. This time, I think it's because I've been staying fresh on TRP, I felt very stoic about the whole thing. I am not mad, and I am not insecure about this. I simply find the behavior inappropriate for my serious GF if I'm considering you a wife candidate.

She proceeds to absolutely lose her mind. I run a fitness page on IG so she called me a hypocrite to which I said something to the effect of "I'm not arguing about my fitness page and you know that's different. The topic at hand is you posting pictures on social media highlighting your boobs which I don't like my girl friend to do." She was really going berserk on me at this point. She called me disrespectful, insecure, borderline abusive, a brat and you name it. She told me she's way to nice and loving to me for me to treat her this way. I simply replied and told her I was not mad or insecure and restated I did not like her posting pics with her boobs in them on social media.

This whole situation has really caught me by surprise. Perhaps my being unfazed really pissed her off but I am just shocked at how angry she became over this. It ended with her texting me saying not to text her and she'd hmu sometime soon and I replied and said "uhhh okay then. Goodnight I love you." I am doing my absolute best to remain unaffected. At the end of the day this was not the best picture for me to pick this battle with. She has posted many more in the past that were significantly worse so I can see why she would be confused by me making this rule. However I felt I needed to hold frame when she refused to comply. I would appreciate feedback on how I am doing about holding frame, what I should expect from here and if I made the right decision reigning this behavior in. Ultimately she is a good GF and typically submits to my leadership but at times she can get very independent. Thanks in advance

First Edit: This is a quick edit but after reading the responses I felt I should clarify my reasoning for telling her I didn't want her to post these pictures. If she chose to continue doing so I could not consider her for a LTR. If she doesn't comply it's fine, I will just reevaluate how I perceive her. I saw it as a shit test and thought I needed to maintain my boundaries. Should I expect her to reach out to me after I ignore her and fall in line more? Anyways thanks already. I appreciate you guys challenging me on all of this

2nd Edit: I would like to apologize for not having read the sidebar. I have read it now. I read the LTR Checklist and realized I was way off on this one already. I haven't ever been active on reddit much at all before and just really needed to find somewhere to get advice as this happened last night and I was all confused. I appreciate everyones help. The brutal honesty has been helpful to smack me in the face because I don't have anyone else to do it and I was raised beta blue pill. I look forward to mastering red pill and helping anyone in my position soon.

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Title Am I Holding Frame Well or Just Being Stupid?
Author Keefe9973
Upvotes 14
Comments 67
Date 05 April 2019 03:45 AM UTC (1 year ago)
Subreddit askMRP
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/224388
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/askMRP/comments/b9mf9e/am_i_holding_frame_well_or_just_being_stupid/
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[–]SBIIIRed Fucking Commando40 points41 points  (1 child) | Copy

We need a link to the IG page.

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy

That is honestly the only thing in this post that got me interested.

[–]lololasaurus31 points32 points  (2 children) | Copy

Although trp is not very pro marriage, as a RP Christian, I am in the right scenario so I do get that.

That said, you're doing it completely wrong.

Potential wife candidates don't need to be told to keep their boobs off social media. Vet better, you're doing a piss poor job of it here.

[–]Keefe9973[S] 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

True. I could do better

[–]simbarlionRed Beret2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I would like to apologize for not reading sidebar....

that's a first.

[–]NordicVikingKing19 points20 points  (5 children) | Copy

Your potential wife is a social media attention whore. Big red flag! Think this through very carefully brother as her need for validation from others is definitely a narcissistic trait that will not go away. Don’t have oneitis over a woman with big tits. There’s plenty more out there and your mate selection is not on point.

Additionally, you don’t have a strong enough frame let alone a higher SMV to NGAF. You either set a firm boundary about this behaviour in a cool and calm manner or you build your frame and SMV to a higher level than hers so it doesn’t phase you. You need to be the prize.

[–]Keefe9973[S] 1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

Are you saying I don't have a strong enough frame if she would post that in the first place? or because she fought back?

[–]NordicVikingKing5 points6 points  (3 children) | Copy

You entered her frame by DEERing. Therefore your frame is weak. Your IM on Insta to her made you sound insecure and jealous. Weak. You should have left the message as ‘hot.......see you in bed!’ Then see how wet her panties would have been. You created a Sahara.

[–]Keefe9973[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

hahaha got it. When she messages me back, what's a good way to handle it? After reading all of this from people my eyes really opened. Absolutely not making her an LTR anymore. Still would like to continue smashing if I can though.

[–]NordicVikingKing4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

The red pill will sink in for you eventually, but you need to do the work. Find the sidebar, read, then implement. If you don’t lift, start. If she messages you it will depend on what it’s about. Don’t take her seriously anymore. Treat her just like any other plate. Adopt an abundance attitude and just be cool with her and game her back into her bed so you can slay her......and others.

[–]Keefe9973[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Word. Thanks

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (0 children) | Copy

Soon as you enter the argument you enter her frame and you lose.

[–]FereallyRedHard Core Red14 points15 points  (10 children) | Copy

The only way to change a behavior is to SHOW that there are consequences to that behavior.

That's where the "you can't fix your SO nor the relationship" advice comes from.

Fix yourself. Self reflect using the tools here to see where you're fucking up, then use your time and attention as a conditioning tool... reward good behavior, punish bad behavior.

You see the difference between focusing on the incident versus focusing on your reaction to the incident.? It's a matter of frame.

Like others have said, a 23 yo who just got out of a fucking marriage (at 18!), needed you to tell her to get divorced and still needs the validation of showing her tits online is definitely not LTR material.

Finally, using redpill as a "scratch and sniff" result generator is not the way it works.

You have to do this for yourself.

You're tolerating behavior that is unacceptable to you, and rationalizing that since you argue with her you're dealing with it. You're not. You're entering her frame.

And, she's disqualified from even "serious girlfriend" status until You get your shit together.

Don't even think about marrying this girl.

[–]Keefe9973[S] 1 point2 points  (9 children) | Copy

You're right thank you. In this instance how would I have shown consequences for the behavior?

[–]UEMcGillI am become McGill, Destroyer of Blue Pill11 points12 points  (2 children) | Copy

I'm gonna jump in here. At 23, she should be pretty capable and putting the finishing touches on adulting. So what you see is what you get. Jumping in and out of marriage from 18 to now? As others have said that's a serious red-flag. But it's also a serious red flag for you.

It's all fun to save the world, and be nice to animals but don't get mad when that feral cat you adopted pisses all over your nice furniture. It's the nature of the cat, not that you didn't set appropriate boundaries.

My wife know implicitly that she doesn't go showing her tits on FB or IG, or whatever. I got lucky. Before I was 'woke' I vetted her properly. Conservative, good family values, same religion, and submissive. You know what? I've never had the 'don't show your tits' convo.

We have a saying, that a guy is trying to achieve bluepill goals through redpill ways. That's what you have here. You're captain-sav-a-ho and upset that she's acting like a feral cat?

You've pedastalized this chick, and then worked back from it. It should be the other way around. You should be asking, is she plate material? Is she FWB material? Is she LTR Material? Is she Mother Material? and finally can she support my mission?

Each one of these levels gets an answer that she has to achieve with her implicit actions.

My wife in her 20's looked hot as fuck in a bikini. Sure, just her and me on a vacation at the beach? Great. Now as a mom in her late 30's she'll tell you 'I'm not wearing a bikini to the town pool with my 8 year olds.' None of these were boundaries I had to set.

Don't listen to a womans words. Judge her by her actions. So to answer your original quesion? How do you set a boundary and show her consequences? If this was truly your line in the sand, and a consequence that is intolerable? She get's unceremoniously demoted. She's now a plate, and no chance of re-applying for the position of GF.

[–]hack3geRed Beret4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Now as a mom in her late 30's she'll tell you 'I'm not wearing a bikini to the town pool with my 8 year olds.'

A lady in streets and a freak in the sheets - properly vetted for sure.

If I was a betting man though I would put money on the fact that you would give zero fucks if she did...

[–]Keefe9973[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I like the ferrel cat analogy, thanks. I am not keeping her as a GF anymore.

[–]FereallyRedHard Core Red2 points3 points  (5 children) | Copy

use your time and attention as a conditioning tool... reward good behavior, punish bad behavior.

[–]Keefe9973[S] 2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy

I've tried implementing this in the past. Typically what happens is I ignore her for something she did, she asks whats wrong, I say nothing which is obviously not true, then she weasels the reason out of me, and then we fight over it. How am I using the technique wrong?

[–]FereallyRedHard Core Red6 points7 points  (3 children) | Copy

[–]Keefe9973[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

So I should gradually reduce attention until she falls into my frame?

[–]FereallyRedHard Core Red7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

You're still thinking about her as being the focal point.

You reduce attention because you don't condone her behavior, so you leave the scene of said behavior. Not for her, for you.

Doesn't matter if she falls into your frame or not (she won't), you're miles away from that decision.

She does bad thing, you go away. Period.

Operant conditioning.

[–]Keefe9973[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Okay I get it now. Thanks

[–]Redpillbrigade176 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

Classic. Young stud find red pill, applies some of its tenets but ultimately doesn’t quite get it and acts like a domineering butthurt beta.

Your problem is one of lack of standards, lack of guts and confidence to believe in yourself as you apply those standards and poor tactics/ technique.

Lack of standards: list what to you consider as “wife material” . Be clear to yourself about it. If sexy instagram posts isn’t it and you want your wife with a hijab or whatever, be clear to yourself about it. Then to her as well.

Lack of confidence. State unapologetically what you want. Then move on. Zero drama. Zero arguments, let her and people in general act the way they want. They will anyway. Learn what OI means and adopt it.

Poor tactics: you texting her “I love you, good night “ after that bullshit behavior on her part is a weak bitch beta move and she knows it. Read 16 Commandments of Poon fucking daily for the next 30 days. I bet you tell her you love her more than she tells you. Wrong.

Get to work.

[–]Keefe9973[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Thanks. You hit the nail on the head. Red pill still needs to sink in a lot

[–]RedPill-BlackLotusRed Beret5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

Hey guys this is my first post on here. I'm in an LTR


Read the rationale male.

Open parachute.

[–]Keefe9973[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Good point. I was still pretty blue pilled when we started and we took a break and I'm trying it again red pill. Still making mistakes

[–]hack3geRed Beret1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Iron Rule 7....

[–]justpickanyusernameRed Beret2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

For some reason while reading this the Walking Contradiction by Green Day song started playing in my head.

Your words and your actions don’t line up. You say you aren’t insecure, yet you act insecure. She smells it and so do I.

You will never get anywhere here if you can’t even be honest with yourself.

[–]Keefe9973[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I understand why you see it that way. She probably does too. My reasoning was that I consider the behavior inappropriate for a serious relationship. If she wanted to continue acting that way she was not going to be that for me. I was testing her compliance.

[–]IV-IVm-I3 points4 points  (4 children) | Copy

despite what others here are saying, I think you handled it right at first. You let her know what your boundary is. People will say “demonstrate don’t explicate.” Which is true, but only after you express your boundary. You have to set expectations early in the relationship and shut down any unacceptable behavior on the spot. Can’t expect her to read your mind and know your boundaries.

Where you fucked up was continuing the convo when she said “you can’t tell me what to do!”. To that, a better response would be “you need a spanking.” At this point you need to soft next and stick to it. Do not contact her. You should start looking for new prospects. I think this one is a lost cause. Continue withdrawing attention. If she continues to post these pics or continues to push back, you walk. Don’t threaten to walk. Just walk.

[–]Keefe9973[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Got it thank you. I should have gone with the "you need a spanking" remark. Would have diffused everything

[–]hack3geRed Beret4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

You would have gotten buried if you said that - you know it - you have zero fucking frame. Your faggot ass would have been on here saying I said "you need a spanking" she said "x" I said "y" what the fuck guys that didn't work.

Also the way you set boundary was shitty and shows you haven't read shit of the sidebar. You don't control another person and shes right you can't tell her what to do. You need to learn how to set boundaries properly and PS you don't do it in DMs faggot.

I'm feeling generous so I'm going to give you a free lesson:

You look her in the eye and tell her "my girlfriend won't be posting inappropriate pictures of her tits on instagram" - full stop. You wait she says "you can't tell me what to do" - you fog/broken record the fuck out of her "you are right you are free to do whatever you want - but my girlfriend won't be posting inappropriate pictures of her tits on instagram" rinse and repeat - if she escalates walk away. See how simple that is?

I'm still feeling generous so I'm going to give you some more advice:

You flat out just vetted wrong so this situation is going to be the first of many disasters - you aren't married, no kids, pull the fucking plug and then STFU, Lift and Sidebar. Maybe some day you will be a man worth a damn.

[–]SuperCrazy070 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

You look her in the eye and tell her "my girlfriend won't be posting inappropriate pictures of her tits on instagram"

Disagree. This is a boundary that shouldn’t need to be explained. It’s an automatic disqualifier.

[–]hack3geRed Beret0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

100% agree hence why I told him to just fucking next her.

However, one thing you have to remember is that many women nowadays have not been in a relationship where a man was willing to enforce boundaries - most beta faggots just say yes and sulk off. Sometimes setting a single boundary once is effective in sending a message.

The funniest part is I actually told my wife exactly what you said when I had to set a boundary - I started the conversation with "I'm really disappointed that we even have to have this conversation because you should have known better than to act this way. I have no desire to babysit the woman I am with and moving forward I suggest you begin acting like a proper wife or you will no longer find yourself in that role."

[–]mrpthrowa2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

Dude let's start with the obvious lie,. You have not swallowed the red pill, you have not read the side bar material, you are not acting red pill, and you are doing everything wrong.

[–]Keefe9973[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I found the sidebar and have read about half of it now. I read the part about mate guarding and not to do it. Obviously I mate guarded in this situation and it backfired on me. I had watched a video by Hunter Drew, "The Family Alpha" where he was telling his wife she could not go out without him in the outfit she was wearing. She respected his wishes and went and changed. I was expecting my girl to see I had strong boundaries and act the same way. What is the difference in what Hunter Drew did and what I did? Simply I don't have enough frame?

[–]SuperCrazy070 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You’ve found the side bar and read half of it in the past few hours?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

Your first edit is the way to go.

Bump her to a plate.

If you had done that first without any talking about I.G. and she asked you why you could always fill her in that "Long term material for me aren't constantly seeking attention on social media. You're fun to be around but it just doesn't fit my idea of someone I have a serious future with."

I'd give any girl the benefit of the doubt to grow up a little bit if she's into you and go "oh fuck, how stupid, I'm about to lose Chad".


She'll get defensive, and then you just burn that bridge.

But your approach here (no matter if you felt it or not) is that you mate guarded / insecure.

Should I expect her to reach out to me after I ignore her and fall in line more?

Maybe. But already have other girls lined up so you don't have to wonder or care. The right one(s) will pick themselves.

[–]Keefe9973[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Sounds good thanks

[–]helaughsinhidden2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Total break of frame.

You said you normally DEER but didn't, then next paragraph keep explaining your position, coming to the defense of your fitness page, and since this was all via TEXT, you didn't come off to her as "unphazed". In fact, her opinion is that you are "disrespectful, insecure, borderline abusive, ..... treat her this way".

Don't text.

This is why you don't use text messaging for personal communication. Both of you think you had a completely different conversation because you are assuming the tone and inflection of the other person. You pictured her exhibiting an immature, bitchy, child like tantrum and she saw you probably as she pictured her ex-husband, a jealous, butt hurt, controlling, insecure man. Meanwhile she saw herself as a victim of the patriarchy and you saw yourself as a family alpha enforcing boundaries. All of you wrong on all fronts and if this played out in person it could have been much different.

You can't enforce boundaries, only DREAD can.

I'm usually the one asking my wife to dress sexier in public than she is comfortable with, so I will lean on the side saying you are being insecure and jealous. Is her SMV higher than yours? Honestly? She literally had a guy that she was in "love" with and it didn't work out, so be honest, did she "settle for you"? If you saw yourself as the prize in the relationship, you really wouldn't care what she did on social media, right? So her little test was mean to see where you think you stand. She got the information she wanted. You are afraid she is going to attract a better mate. The only thing that will actually make her act right is being afraid to lose a high valued man.

[–]Keefe9973[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You ask good questions and I totally agree about the texting. I do not think she is settling for me and I am perfectly aware of her attractiveness. I have soft nexted her several times and she always comes back running. Especially this last time we broke up. We had had some serious disagreements that made me feel this wouldn't work longterm. I was moving on and happy to do so. She hit me back up and basically gave me everything I had wanted. She said when she came back "I tried to move on but I literally can't live without you." All this to say I think I am positioned as more of the prize. I have never bought her a gift she buys me gifts, volunteers oral sex etc. I don't mind her dressing sexy around me. It was the fact that she did it on social media. I really didn't feel insecure I only questioned if I should keep this as an LTR. It's the fact that when you post something like that on social media you are inviting male attention. I accept the reality that men are going to make moves on your woman, even if she's married. However I cannot accept my GF inviting the attention and being my LTR. That attention should be focused towards me if she wants to be my GF. I just needed to see if she was going to comply with my frame to stay my LTR. She did not. I was honestly very surprised that she didn't because she has been very compliant with me lately. I think you are right. She took a completely different tone from the texts.

[–]BobbyPeruRed Beret3 points4 points  (7 children) | Copy

In the past with her I have immediately jumped into argument with her, DEERing

You mean DEERing like this?

I said something to the effect of "I'm not arguing about my fitness page and you know that's different.

Perhaps my being unfazed really pissed her off

Nope, your mate guarding made her lose the last ounce of respect she had for you

She’s probably showing her tits in IG because she’s looking for a branch swing.

Where are you on the sidebar and lifting?

[–]Keefe9973[S] -5 points-4 points  (6 children) | Copy

I see. Still learning about DEERing thanks. As far as lifting I am 6'0 195lbs 8% BF. I'm not sure what sidebar means? I've read it on here before but haven't found the definition. Should I expect her to hit me back soon or what?

[–]BobbyPeruRed Beret1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy

I don’t know. I think we need more context, particularly on the break-up.... leading up to.. what made her come back.. why did you take her back? Etc

[–]Keefe9973[S] 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

When I met her she was getting divorced from her husband. She was married at 18(Now 23). She had me up on the pedestal for the first couple months. Honestly I started getting insecure. Resorted back to beta ways. Argued, got angry over everything. It was obvious to me as much as she denied it that she didn't see me the same. She had decided she wasn't ready to go through with the divorce. I told her that was a deal breaker(obviously). She said she couldn't explain it but she wasn't ready. I ended up just cutting it all off. I decided I could do better then all of that. Quite honestly my life was fine. I felt very motivated to go be a better man. She hit me back up like five days later talking about how she couldn't live without me. She got the divorce finished and she has basically complied with my frame completely up until tonight.

I really told her not to post it to test how much she was in my frame and vet for LTR. I expect to hear back from her soon. I don't know if she will feel any less dug in though. In which case I don't know how I should handle it. This really on the surface doesn't seem "next" worthy but I can't just concede

[–]BobbyPeruRed Beret3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

She’s keeping her options open. You are probably not her branch swing, but that’s what she wants you to think. Next.

[–]Keefe9973[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Honestly I had not thought of it that way. Very insightful I appreciate it a lot man!

[–]hack3geRed Beret0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You already know shes on the branch swing end of the spectrum for sexual strategy so how confident are you that you are chad?

I can tell from the tone of your writing you aren't even close to a top branch...

[–]johnn20151 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Wait when is a girl married at 18 and divorced by 23 wife material?

[–]ReddJiveRed Beret1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

You're under the delusion that women just swoon and fall for red pill men. They do but not how you think they do I'll explain that a little bit better with this analogy.

Ever have a 5 year old act up? Then you tell them rules and the punishment and for some damn reason they do it anyway and get even worse as the punishment is carried out?

Doesn't mean she isn't into your red pill development or does or does not think there's attraction what it means is that women have agency and sometimes they are just going to make the wrong decision because it feels good. After that they then can't admit they were wrong.

Women keep thier heads down hoping things get better after they make a mistake. She just want it to go away. If they can brow beat you into it they will.

She knew what she was doing. If you had just said my girls tits don't go on Instagram, and after her rant about you being controlling you just simply said

ok (holding frame)

better would have added a

You're cute when you're angry

she would have stilled freaked out because she knew the standard you're not telling her to do anything. You're just saying

ya gotta be this tall to ride the ride.

Her choice. She doesn't want that choice. She wants what she wants and in that moment it was to be adored by anonymous pic collectors on the internet.

Yet you decided to dive in and prove something. Look at what she said. Remove your ego. Women say what they think. She's thinking the world doesn't control me. I can put my tits on the internet for everyone to adore me. When you just said hey. No.

That's when freak mode happened and all the times her dad or mom told her no came up. Women equate emotion and memories. done correctly the next time she throws a fit she'll remember how you truly didn't GAF and carried out with what you said. Just like her dad did Just like the 5 year old remembers that they still got put in time out.

Tell her what to do and she'll remember how her dad told her not to go out with the football captain. Then she snuck out the window to suck his dick at the trashcan party.

[–]Keefe9973[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

That was a good analogy. So would you say I made the right decision to address it the way I did and that this is just to be expected because she's acting like a child put in time out?

[–]ReddJiveRed Beret2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Ok I'll be clearer.

You fucked it all up. don't talk so much.

[–]Keefe9973[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

got it. Thanks

[–]DeanMaverick13Uncle Vas Sectomy1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Here's the deal, if you had a high SMV and were your own mental point of origin, weren't a piece of shit beta cuck and actually baptized yourself in TRP teachings, you for one wouldn't care if she had her tits or lubed up asshole on Instagram because you have 4 other options waiting to replace her at all times. Secondly, if they are intentional tit showing pics, just know, they are not for you. That's an advertisement. If my wife posted anything seductive on the web, I wouldn't give two shits. I'm not insecure. If I catch wind or her fucking around, it's hasta la winnebago

[–]bliceroquququq2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

Quit being a pussy. I’m sure she’s got nice tits and likes showing them off for the validation that all women crave. Instead of telling her you’d like to fuck them, you mate-guard and pretend not to be insecure while you clearly are. Accept the fact she can go get other dick anytime she wants, Instagram or no, and come live in reality.

[–]Keefe9973[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

It felt more like a shit test that I needed to handle. Regardless that is beside the point. I did not give in. Should I expect she is going to come around in a few days or should I try and find a way to play the whole situation off?

[–]MrChad_ThundercockBig Red Machine0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

God damn “Look at me” generation. Women are children, treat them as such.

Is she a good lay?

[–]Keefe9973[S] 1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

Yes, very good. I still want to smash but after reading all of the replies+sidebar there's definitely no reason to be in a relationship with her.

[–]Redpillbrigade172 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

You need a fresh mindset and method to rank your relationships. Nothing wrong with having great sex with her. Just don’t get so invested. Downgrade her to a fuck buddy. You should have several fuck buddies anyway. Never commit exclusivity unless you want to eventually become a pussy whipped beta. Let the best woman rise to the top and gradually you can then invest more time, attention and resources in that one. But you should still be having fuck buddies even then. It’s the best when she’s way more invested than you are and works really hard to gain you just for her. THAT’S what you want from your woman, not her BS chasing validation on social media. She should be chasing you. Keep the dread as real as the sun.

[–]Keefe9973[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Thanks. I'm assuming the downgrade is expressed not explicitly stated? What do I do when she asks why things have changed?

[–]Redpillbrigade170 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Make as explicit as you can. Put together a formal letter and mail it to her.


Relationship talk is a woman’s field. If you’re indeed dragged into relationship talk defer, evade, change subject, “come here babe, I’ll show you exactly what you mean to me”. Focus on having a fun filled time with her and being suave and attractive.

[–]InChargeManRed Beret0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I don't like my girlfriends boobs to be on social media.

You only control your behaviors and set guidelines for acceptable behaviors for others who you allow into your inner circle. She DNGAF about what you "like". If this is a boundary for you, then the appropriate response is:

"My girlfriend doesn't post provocative pictures online."

She says you can't tell her what to do, which is 100% correct. You can't control her, don't try. What you can control is who gets to be your LTR/Wife. She can play by the rules or take her pieces and go home. Shouldn't make a difference to you either way.

[–]Keefe9973[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I agree. Thanks

[–]Big_Daddy_PDX0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Can we flag this post as Autistic?

[–]JameisBong0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Unpopular opinion, keep around but as a plate. She is not LTR material,but big tits make her fun in bed. Keep fucking her and make improvements in your life. Once she hits the wall or cheats on you she'll be someone else's problem.

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