Is it just me or are 9/10s so much more pleasant to be around?

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April 9, 2019

After dealing with exclusively 7s for a while, I recently started exclusively 8s and 9s as I was tired of the lack of manners and just generally getting bored with them. I immediately noticed a lot more submissiveness and a lot more manners/trying to impress me. Sex is more intimate too, and I find myself doing less 1 night stands and more spending a weekend with a plate of straight sex and great times then doing it again the next weekend with a different plate. There's also a lot less ghosting/hassle to make plans. I also wonder if this has to do with a subconscious boost in smv within myself too, but I doubt it as I've been swallowing the pill for a while now.

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Title Is it just me or are 9/10s so much more pleasant to be around?
Author ThighSavesLives
Upvotes 178
Comments 72
Date 09 April 2019 06:03 AM UTC (2 years ago)
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[–]mrpthrowa182 points183 points  (4 children) | Copy

8s/9s don't have a lot to prove, and generally are more confident in retaining you via their charm than 7s whose insecurity comes out as shrewdness and endless shit tests.

[–]Original_Dankster39 points40 points  (0 children) | Copy

Another factor, 8s and 9s can generally get commitment when they want it, and from guys whom they want. They aren't as paranoid about a pump n' dump as 6s and 7s so they don't have their bitch shields up. And if the 8s and 9s are getting commitment from higher value men, they are less likely to feel like they're settling.

[–]Project_Zero_Betas5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's also because in the 8 - 10 range, they're confident they can get whoever they want looks-wise, and so usually go with who best matches their personality and satisfies their emotional needs.

[–]thrownaway2thewind2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yep, its was always the average ones that were the most bitchy

[–]the13thmonk1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy


[–]surrealismen86 points87 points  (8 children) | Copy

I think 5-7’s get approached a lot more than 9-10’s so they have inflated egos and think they are hot shit that’s because 9-10’s seems out of most guys league so most guys won’t bother gaming them.

[–]i_love_chicks47 points48 points  (2 children) | Copy

ya I work in a bar and i’ve been observing this quite a lot lately.

[–]organicfluxx0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

The hot ones are available and literally ignored?

[–]i_love_chicks1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

not ignored, but the 5 and 6s i work with as well as women in the bar have super inflated egos.

[–]jackandjill2215 points16 points  (4 children) | Copy

Idk about that. I work around models in fashion. Girls at the highest level realise how much power they have.

[–]NextForever12 points13 points  (3 children) | Copy

Especially through social media.

The amount of DM’s they get from men with money and/or looks is nauseating..

But the cold approach is a dead art here in LA without alcohol from my observations. Even dudes I work with that have 2 million+ followers solely hit up women to get drunk, then make a move on. Only a handful of studs that I know with social media power game woman on the fly. It’s sad; but an optimal trait of men to have in our society. It dramatically lowers my competition.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy

Dude honestly mark my words, I will be a cold approach enthusiast who will have those cock sucking leeches in my bed that night in the near future

[–]NextForever 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy


[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

:( that’s not nice, you’re a meanie poo poo

[–][deleted] 78 points79 points  (6 children) | Copy

Yep it is better, they have more grace

[–]resnine13 points14 points  (3 children) | Copy

why tho

[–]TFWnoLTR46 points47 points  (1 child) | Copy

Probably because most guys are intimidated by them, so they've learned over time to be graceful and enjoy when someone is confident around them.

[–]Haste-32 points33 points  (0 children) | Copy

Exactly. Non-RP men are just bitches overall. They believe in the Gillette ads where you shouldn’t even approach an 8+/10.

chicks want the guys to hit them up, and most just don’t have the balls.

[–]CasaDeFranco0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

An 8 is better quality than a 7. Grace is a reflection of confidence, knowing your value. It's inherent.

[–]SalporinRP20 points21 points  (1 child) | Copy

Eh it depends on where you are. I used to live in LA and frequently return to visit family and the 9s and 10s are almost unapproachable due to the amount of high-status men they have access to. Oh you're a recent college grad with a decent entry-level job and you think that USC sorority girl is hot? Well too bad because she's been fucking B-list actors, musicians, and athletes for the past year so unless you have model-tier looks or absolutely electric 10/10 game you have no shot. The 9s and 10s in LA are just status-hungry whores for the most part.

NYC on the other hand is a much different vibe. There are obviously a lot of high-value businessmen in the area but NYC has a shortage of young single men so as a young guy you can absolutely slay there if you are decent looking and you have a modicum of game. Girls in NYC are much more accepting of your shitty apartment you share with 2-3 other people than a girl in LA would be imo.

[–]onionknightofknee3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

it's about competition like any game. In new york, it's a man's market because there man women ratio. its one of the hardest places for women outside of DC. LA, ratio is not nearly as bad for women.

[–]thrwy7547921 points22 points  (0 children) | Copy

Perhaps this has more to do with self-esteem than it does with 7s or 9s.

Also, maybe you feel better because you've been with 8s and 9s, and this good feeling is what you're projecting on them.

[–]ChadTheWaiter10041 points42 points  (5 children) | Copy

That’s because when 9s take shits they shit rainbows.

[–]Sad_Sleeper12 points13 points  (3 children) | Copy

And their shit smells like roses, yeah right ;)

[–]ShutArkhamCityDown13 points14 points  (2 children) | Copy

Dude they don’t shit at all, what you’re on?

[–]the13thmonk1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

That’s because when 9s take shits they shit rainbows.

are you saying females shit?

[–]iwanttoracecars2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is true they've never shit at my house... 😂

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Not a plumber like me confirmed

[–]TheRedPillMonkey16 points17 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'll offer another theory:

While genetics has it's part, it takes effort to maintain 9-10 status. Diet and exercise, finding 'cute' outfits, etc...

Why? Because 'feeling sexy' means being sexually appealing to men. Earning validation from men.

To that end, they literally are going more out of their way to please men. They see the value to themselves in doing so.

[–]Sin-Silver31 points32 points  (2 children) | Copy

Invert your thinking, maybe they are 9/10s BECAUSE they are so much more pleasent to be around.

[–]mental_models32 points33 points  (1 child) | Copy

hey Is it just me or are luxurious cars so much more pleasant to drive?

[–]Luftiwaffe3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

man XD that's the real answer. +1

[–]thesquarerootof121 points22 points  (1 child) | Copy

You know, I've found that girls who are uglier (I guess that's not the right word, not over a 6/10) have worse personalities. Has anyone else noticed that ? Like I've noticed short girls appear more "stuck up" and have a bad attitude. Taller girls and prettier ones are nicer in my experience.

The "not as pretty girls" I'm talking about are the ones that usually go like "where is my 6 ft tall handsome man ?" when they're not that attractive themselves....

[–]mental_models12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's like trying to talk business with a broke dude.

[–]dontlike-hotz27 points28 points  (0 children) | Copy

You sir are an inspiration to those earlier on the journey!

[–]THE_DHARMAKAYA28 points29 points  (0 children) | Copy

PS: In My own experience, 7's and low 8's also tend toward saying "He is so gorgeous and WHY isn't he with a 10?!!!" AKA: For a woman that is a 7, any male that would stoop low enough to be with her is a male that seems to have some "issues".

Basically women that are 7's, are 7's because of many reasons that lead to a woman only being a 7.

[–]empatheticapathetic12 points13 points  (3 children) | Copy

There’s a 10/10 dancer that lives in my flat. She is just really nice and easy going. Not sure how it would go if I was hitting on her but otherwise she is very chill and AWALT at the end of the day.

The ones with the egos have an army of orbiters blowing smoke up their ass.

[–]SupremeBBC1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I died at "army of orbiters" quite honestly.

[–]BuzzLightGear321 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

Not sure how it would go if I was hitting on her

Why have you not?

[–]empatheticapathetic0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Many reasons. Primary would be she’s not my type and there are plenty of girls I am interested in available.

She loves to flaunt herself around the place though.

[–]AnyDoughnut5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yes and no. I do a lot of work for wealthy folks, many of which are 8-10 housewives. I can't say they are always pleasant to deal with.

[–]hibloodstevia9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy

Two reasons:

Outer beauty can be a reflection of inner beauty.


They haven't been broken/alpha widowed as much.

[–]empatheticapathetic0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Or as hard

[–]Glennus62610 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

I believe it's because fewer guys have enough confidence to approach 9s, so they go through periods of disbelief, and adapt by pulling out all the stops on being nice and submissive to keep you around. Lose frame often enough, and awalt will kick in, however.

[–]SheepHerder0073 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yes, I went on a date with a solid 8-8.5 this past weekend, best looking girl by far I've ever asked out (cold approached daytime actually) and it was my most enjoyable date that I can remember. Conversation was effortless and she was respectful. I can definitely imagine the submissive part, first we need to kiss lol

Edit; scratch this, got rejected

[–]stare_at_the_sun6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

Aw I am a 9 and definitely needed this appreciation

[–]BigFeetBigDick3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy


[–]Bedtimeshine9 points10 points  (6 children) | Copy

They are pleasant to be around because you’ve never met a 9 or 10, let alone spent time with enough to form an opinion, and they exist in your imagination. You wanna blow smoke, go have a cigarette...

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (5 children) | Copy

Thank you, I was coming here to say this but you beat me to the punch. Faux alpha internet keyboard warriors thinks they know what a 9 looks like let alone have interacted with them... and then cue all the losers in the thread regurgitating the same bs they’ve heard about 9s-10s to feel like they are relevant mebwhile they don’t even see 9s in real life. My 6s are what you clowns consider “hb9”. I’ve lived in Manhattan and miami and these are where some of the hottest women in the country reside and it’s very rare I see a 9.

[–]BigFeetBigDick7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

I agree. 9’s and 8’s are very rare.

[–]mental_models2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

terribly rare

[–]bernbabybern133 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

With how you talk and how insecure you are, there’s no chance a 9 would give you the time of day.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Cute. I’ll say this once so you don’t waste any more of your time stalking me. We are not alike... the opinions, thoughts etc of others especially strangers on the internet don’t affect me whatsoever. Pm me and I’ll give you some tips on how to strengthen your resolve. Ciao

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It's funny to watch a new TRP'er get bitch slapped, bravo

[–]Psychological_Radish8 points9 points  (4 children) | Copy

It's always better to date 0-2 points below your own SMV. Leagues do exist, and hypergamy always seeks above its own level. I use the following rough guideline:

1+ Points Above Man: Unstable relationship. Girl will always be looking outside of the relationship, which results in mateguarding behavior from the guy. Shit tests are relentless. If you do manage to bag a girl above your SMV, best not to LTR her. Requires nearly perfect Game.

Equal SMV: Neutral. Could become dangerous territory if one party's SMV changes significantly. There isn't much room for major Game errors.

1-2 Points Below Man: Ideal relationship. Girl perceives you as being above her, which flatters her ego, but not so far above her that you're unattainable for a LTR. Shit tests are infrequent and easily passed; comfort tests become more of a concern as time goes on. She will actively work to please to the best of her ability.

3+ Points Below Man: Unstable relationship. Girl knows you could do better and may wonder why you've settled for her. As a result, shit tests are more frequent. Comfort tests are relentless to the point of suffocation. You yourself may be tempted to cheat if a prettier girl comes along. This is also a situation where you're better off keeping her as a ONS or short term plate.

[–]777views2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

What are some easy ways to calculate this when around girls?

[–]BigFeetBigDick16 points17 points  (1 child) | Copy

Don’t. Just go for the hottest chick, fuck her, fuck her again, and keep fucking her until the plate breaks. Why would I try to get with girls below my league is beyond me.

[–]777views2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy


[–]aDrunkenWhaler0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

How about you simply date the hottest women you can, enjoy your time and turn, and not give a fuck if the relationship lasts or not? Why settle for a lower number woman in the hopes of having your relationship last a bit longer? What does having a longer relationship earn you really? And how does that compare with the benefits of having a gorgeous girl desire you?

[–]TheTastelessBatman1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

9 and 10s can be very self conscious because even one single pimple is amplified for them. Hence, they can be nicer and eadier to be around. They don't have inflated egos and know that they can't ever be flawless.

As for below 8s, they think they are shit hot because they get approached more often. They'd fart barf and stuff in front of you and still get fucked because of simps and cucks.

[–]THE_DHARMAKAYA2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Thanks for the reminder. I should get this recent chick to come here tonight so I can crap on her and then end it.

[–]Gordon-G0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

give her Dirty Sanchez

[–]A_solo_tripper2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yes. 9/10's are GENERALLY easier to get along with. But, every girl has some issues. It might be harder to see those flaws because we don't really want to see them in 9/10's. 9/10's rarely stay 9/10 and 6,7,8 could move to 9's. You never know.

[–]buttgoogler2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

If you spend a weekend with a woman, she's your FWB, not a plate.

[–]omega_dawg931 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

doesn't matter what you think op.

in their minds, they're ALL minimum 9.5 and deserve no less than a hung millionaire with no kids.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

When everything is easy and people worship you, it's hard to be a shitty person.

That's just my personal experience. 6's and below are the worst.

[–]Buchloe0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I could see that. I mostly go for 6's because they're cute enough, and tend to have some personality and humbleness compared to a 7 or 8 who thinks she's all that.

[–]kayfab0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

that being said 5 and below are super shallow online haha guess they will never see the light....

[–]PolesWithGoals0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

that's your dong talking

[–]Dreamsdontcometrue0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

No you're just generalizing, its just you. This sub is just full of lazy primates who can't get laid and thats why they agree with you. They want there to be a reason their 7/10 (btw yall are cringey af for constantly using this scale system) geek crush dont like them. So they attribute it to "oh yeah 7.97's are such bitchezz". Its embarrassing for a movement which attempts to pride itself for being alpha.

[–]lenarlot0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

sorry but what is 6s and 7s?

[–]lenarlot0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy


oh ok its a beauty rate?

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