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War, Sex Skew, Beta Male Thirst, And Female Beauty | sex skews [are] an under-appreciated factor in large-scale geopolitical events.

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Title War, Sex Skew, Beta Male Thirst, And Female Beauty | sex skews [are] an under-appreciated factor in large-scale geopolitical events.
Author redpillschool
Upvotes 41
Comments 20
Date 26 February 2019 08:02 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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Link https://theredarchive.com/post/225867
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/av3tzz/war_sex_skew_beta_male_thirst_and_female_beauty/
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[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (8 children) | Copy

Interesting piece.

The practical upshot for a 21st century American male hinges on a question: Is the soy epidemic as bad as it is sold to be? I have met plenty of dudes you'd think twice about fucking with over the last couple years, but I also live in Colorado and have been involved with the martial arts and climbing communities.

If males really are as weak as they're being sold to be in the manosphere, practically speaking, we're still in a situation conducive to men. Beta males do seem thirsty, for whatever that's worth.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

You're self-selecting for a population subset that is more likely to be exempt from the Great Soy Expansion.

As to your point, men who fashion themselves Men in keeping with our father's (or father's father's, really) ideals are at a massive advantage. But from a genetic standpoint, say we accept this theory as having some merit. Having a large pool of mostly beta males, while it makes for easier pickings for capital-M Men, still would cause, in this view, the reproductive possibility for many 'low-quality' breeding partners, and thus an overall gene pool that is 'polluted,' unlike one in which only the top X% of the gene pool of men can breed.

Let's be clear, this is basically Eugenics Lite: Zero Sugar.

I personally suspect it's the way that the world will eventually go when the planet's resources are taxed enough and we need to enforce a codified rubric for which humans get to propagate the species.

[–]Proto_Sigma0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

If the Alphas are all coming the Betas the dysgenic effect would be mitigated, and much of the soy problem is environmental rather than genetic. Course correction would be fairly straightforward.

[–]UnleashYourLife4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

The soy has always existed.

It's just that they didn't survive long after the childbirth. Before modern medicine, over half the children used to die before the age of 10. With the advent of the modern medicine however, even the weakest little shit with dozens of complications and allergic reactions can live a relatively long life.

Add it together with sedentary lifestyle, BP conditioning and a lack of wars, and hopefully things will begin to seem more clear.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

hopefully things will begin to seem more clear.

There was a point, some time in the last year, where I passed an invisible hip/shoulder ratio. It was like a light switch...things couldn't be more clear. Even with pathetic numbers, bodyweight deadlifts & half that overhead presses, it's been enough muscle on my light and recently skinnyfat frame that life is now much better and improving. Wish I would have looked like this before I turned 40, though.

[–]oooKenshiooo1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

Stop crying about the soy. I am a vegan and my T is high for my age. I am ripped year round and I can can choke out mouthy fuckers if need be.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

No you can't. Vegans are weaksauce, everyone knows that. I've never met a vegan that could even kick the shit out of his own underwear, let alone someone else.

[–]oooKenshiooo1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Most vegan men are weak, I agree. But then again, most men are anyways. And veganism tends to attract good-for-nothing, virtue signaling beta faggots like shit attracts flies.

However, there are quite a few vegans at my mma gym and they could tear most people a new one.

[–]Xogenn1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I am carnivore :) You should try it. Eating flesh, organs and drinking blood satiates me.

[–]Senior ContributorMentORPHEUS7 points8 points  (8 children) | Copy

In 1950 in Russia, there were 62 men for every 100 women in the 25-49 age bracket (prime reproduction years). This was the closest earth has come to a Poosy Paradise. An ugly, broke, charmless man in 1950 Russia could pick up 9s and 10s with no Game at all, and have them coming back begging for more of his situational alpha male love because he would have natural Dread Game from his near-limitless options.

This is an interesting topic that I'd love to pursue intellectually. However, the math in the above example is off by at least an order of magnitude. It's not even good entertaining fiction when it breaks the reader's suspension of rational disbelief.

The example is also completely at odds with Red Pill theory. The top 20% of remaining males would still have their pick of women. A harem of 5 women each, a figure experienced plate spinners find totally sustainable, is enough to change the distribution curve for the bottom 80% of men to a cliff.

[–]Endorsed ContributorKeffirLime10 points11 points  (2 children) | Copy

I had similar initial thoughts, however cultural encouragement towards a monogamous marriage leaves somewhat of a one for one scenario.

The top 20% would have first pick, but wouldn't horde women, leaving an excess to be distributed to men further down the trough.

[–]Senior ContributorMentORPHEUS1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

The top 20% would have first pick, but wouldn't horde women, leaving an excess to be distributed to men further down the trough.

A much more realistic scenario than 9s and 10s fighting over male 1s and 2s. Before things get anywhere near that bad, the 9s and 10s branch swing to other regions and countries. "Russian mail order brides" were a much bigger thing 30 years ago, but they used Beta Schlubs only as long as necessary. There exists no happily ever after with a higher SMV woman for lower SMV men; I'm not sure how or why the notion was slipped in to a Red Pill essay.

[–]5Imperator_Red0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Your numbers make no sense.

[–]Hjalmbere1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

A couple of additional thoughts:

-Russia in 1950 is arguably one of the worst societies to ever exist. Even Portland would be better. Well almost.

-62/100, and then deduct the damaged men driven to alcoholism by PTS from their experiences in the Gulag and/or WW2 plus the men currently being locked up in the Gulag, and you’re probably looking at something like 40/97 (Women were also sent to the Gulag, but to a lesser extent).

[–]Senior ContributorMentORPHEUS2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

-Russia in 1950 is arguably one of the worst societies to ever exist.

There's already enough idealization of 1950s American culture in manosphere lore that misses the mark badly. Depicting 1950s Russia as "a poosy paradise" just doesn't fly even when I "want" to believe what the writer is trying to advance.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I think you're missing the point- when it's close to a 2:1 ratio, the top 20% of men are stretched much more thin (and includes uglier people than before). Don't forget the 1950s had locality in play (no tinder yet). Your options were limited to what was near you and who you met at locally in your community.

With a shortage of men, a wider selection of men were getting attention. Top 20% in your community may be a very different selection than it would be with a 1:1 ratio. Furthermore- top 20% is not the limit for female attention. It's a rough estimate we use to determine "alpha fucks." With a 2:1 ratio you better believe women were racing each other for the beta bucks, which was in limited supply.

I can't find it right now on mobile but there's a study that showed imbalance of gender ratio on college campuses tended to determine more LTRs vs Hookup cultures. I'll look it up later.

[–]Senior ContributorMentORPHEUS0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I think you're missing the point- when it's close to a 2:1 ratio, the top 20% of men are stretched much more thin

I get the point and am interested in seeing the idea explored and refined. What I'm saying is, the article loses the thread even given the generous latitude offered to speculative bro-science. The part I quoted wasn't scientific at all; it appears written simply to stroke the justice boners of an audience of incels with D or worse level of pre-Y2K world history knowledge.

I can't find it right now on mobile but there's a study that showed imbalance of gender ratio on college campuses tended to determine more LTRs vs Hookup cultures. I'll look it up later.

With data like that, the premise of the essay could be supported in a manner that even critics of TRP couldn't dismiss out of hand. This has the potential to actually move the Overton Window, rather than just making funny faces through it at our "opposition."

A data point on the opposite direction. 20-25 years ago there was wide speculation that China's one-child policy and cultural preference for male offspring would result in the emergence of polyandrous family types- one wife and several husbands. China's sex ratio appears to have peaked around 1.15, and this speculative family type emerged exactly zero times in reality.

[–]russian_nigger0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

as someone that was born in the ussr and grew up there before moving to the states, i can tell you that even in the 80's there were droves of average looking guys with smoking broads on their arms. getting a good looking girl was not hard at all. my mother confirms this as well when we have talks about when she was growing up post war. she said the shortage of men was so immense that women literally would take the first guy that showed interest.

[–]russian_nigger0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

this is a really good article, except i don't think he knows what the word polygyny means



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