Why Game is a threat to our values. "...Chivalry is unsexy. Lecturing men to be unsexy for the sake of virtue will likewise fail because our very definition of male virtue is sexiness."

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July 27, 2018

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Title Why Game is a threat to our values. "...Chivalry is unsexy. Lecturing men to be unsexy for the sake of virtue will likewise fail because our very definition of male virtue is sexiness."
Author redpillschool
Upvotes 25
Comments 6
Date 27 July 2018 03:30 PM UTC (2 years ago)
Subreddit TheRedPill
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/226297
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/92di2b/why_game_is_a_threat_to_our_values_chivalry_is/
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[–]TheYekke19 points20 points  (2 children) | Copy

Chivalry requires gratitude. Gratitude became ingrate-ness. Chivalry died. The end.

We are moving back to state of nature soon enough, a high-trust society reverts very quickly to a low-trust state if the nuclear family is an abomination for the vast majority of men. Having lived in Africa as a kid, I will see fences and walls go up, night watchmen become common, and the night again become dangerous, feral, and adventurous.

[–]A-Neverwinter-Fool4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

Elaborate more on your hypothesised cycle please?

[–]TheYekke2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

You can see it in action in every town with a sizable population that self-segregates into a distinct area. Talk to any indian IT guy for a while and you find out what loyalties he fakes and which one he’ll die for. Watch it in action the next time a hurricane knocks out power for more than a few hours. Observe carefully any persistent signage or graffiti that’s appears to be annexing more and more wall space around your dwelling. Double points if the local law and order seems to be purposely ignoring it.

The state of nature can be watched in real time in Juarez Mexico- they’re about 90% back to ‘safe during daylight, die unless fortified at night’

[–]BillyRedRocks13 points14 points  (1 child) | Copy

The more freedom we get, the more we return to fundamentals - sex and violence are moving up and replacing all other "virtues".

[–]FinalPrince3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

The base state of nature. Man kindles a light in the dark and woman snuffs it out. So it goes.

[–]Endorsed ContributorJamesSkepp2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

a man’s chivalry (in itself) is not what we use to determine a man’s virtue

Sure, shame he doesn't post here b/c I would like to ask what does, according to him, define the virtue of the man (or even a human being)? I assume it's some form of copy/paste moralizing from Bible or Bible study group (or RPChristians sub).

The virtue of a man can be defined in may ways, one of them is excellence in his mission, thus now OP should lower his head before Mystery and Tyler, especially considering without Game and PUAs there would not be either TRP or Dalrock . Or we can define virtue as the ability to walk through the life without harming anyone, in that case neither Christians nor Bible nor God qualify. I can do that bs all day b/c that illustrates the problem with using Bible (or any other WIDELY interpretable book about spirituality) as the guideline to perform a mental masturbation about philosophy (Christian on top of that) of how FAITH can be used to interpret why feminism is possible b/c men are chivalrous (take that in one sentence). Not b/c men are weak mentally, not b/c they got wool pulled over their eyes, not b/c they lost the competence/alpha traits, not b/c they don't understand m-f dynamics, not b/c they can't pull to save their lives.

Game teaches that chivalry is an attraction killer, and that women are instead attracted to a host of traits that are neutral at best.

The problem we have is that young men now are able to see for themselves that Game work.

Game is based on mimicking natural, honest alpha traits or behaviours. One can debate the morality of that, assuming the behaviours are dishonest and are basically lying in extreme cases, but that's that. When natural selection was at work, no such thing as chivalry existed, b/c we had no concept of rules, you either had the alpha traits or you didn't. Lamenting over the fact that a process that naturally developed over the course of millions of years is impeding a made up, make-believe intellectual characteristics ascribed to us by philosophers (which can't even agree what exactly the virtue is or should be) is a waste of time (good intellectual exercise tho, it's like writing fanfiction about Star Wars or some other movie). Complain to the laws of physics or to god, doesn't change anything, gravity still "goes down", it is what it is. No need to overcomplicate the issue.


And finally, after my beef with religion is satisfied:

Why Game is a threat to our values.

Game is not a threat to OUR values. Game is a threat to Christian (and in broader sense to most abrahamic religions) values b/c these values are not the values of "you do you", they are based on the ideas of submission to the will of god, which basically in modern times translates to: "God ordained so, therefore it must be so, and it just so happens, that god chose me to tell you what to do, no conflict of interesr". Had we had a religion that is based, for example, on worshipping and cultivating the masculinity of men and femininity of women, we either wouldn't need game or would use it a s symbolic representation of our religion (much like mass is on Sundays). Game is not a threat to anyone save the people who don't want to see game used b/c they don't believe it fulfils THEIR OWN imagined requirements of being virtuous.


Since game in it's most TL/DR form is based on unabashed sexual prowess - why is there any astonishment about it impeding the Christian values of being fair, if no such thing as fair EVER existed in nature in the first place.

Besides Christian values are basically trad-con just lagging a few hundred yeas behind the Reformation.


Lectures on the importance of chivalry will be met with ridicule, since chivalry is unsexy.

How about we lecture men about the truth, meaning we tell them what traits women find sexy. And how about we don't lecture men that MADE UP (we invented chivalry toward women, most likely from idolizing them too much) trait that doesn't work (b/c it's made up) should be treated with higher reverence than TRUTH itself.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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