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“Hot Girls Wanted” - "The film intended to show how difficult life is for these girls, but instead it shows how incredibly entitled and spoiled they are." -Roosh

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Title “Hot Girls Wanted” - "The film intended to show how difficult life is for these girls, but instead it shows how incredibly entitled and spoiled they are." -Roosh
Author redpillschool
Upvotes 469
Comments 94
Date 15 January 2018 02:53 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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Link https://theredarchive.com/post/226690
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/7qk4o6/hot_girls_wanted_the_film_intended_to_show_how/
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[–]1GroundhogLiberator354 points355 points  (15 children) | Copy

It's clear that every documentary pushes an angle, but I've never seen one where it felt more forced. The makers act as though these women were grabbed at gunpoint and forced into porn. In reality someone promised them easy money and they were stupid enough to believe it and shameless enough to pursue it. It's not like they signed up so they could pay their kid's medical bills. They signed up because they thought sex on camera was an easy way to score luxury handbags. Why should a man who has to bust his ass daily to maybe make something of himself have any sympathy for a girl who drove off a cliff thinking she was taking a shortcut?

edit: spelling

[–]OracleofFl116 points117 points  (12 children) | Copy

To me it is the constant screaming about feminism and women's rights to make these choices and then there is the couple "we should have sympathy for how these victim women who were taken advantage of and made bad choices...and how there ought to be safeguards or laws".

Where are the shouts of sympathy for young men who make bad choices that screw up their lives? It is the SJWs that want it both ways. All the rights and privileges but a safety net.

[–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet30 points31 points  (0 children) | Copy

Men don't get shouts of sympathy because the human race is not wired to be protective of males, but it is wired to be protective of females.

Men are the sex that extract their survival directly from the environment via strength, endurance, and cunning.

Women are the sex that extract their survival from men, by appearing vulnerable and in need of protection so that men will provide for them.

Even feminists are playing to their basic evolutionary survival blueprint. Every "feminist solution" to "female inequity" involves men doing something about it.

[–]KnowBrainer38 points39 points  (9 children) | Copy

Men don't need the safety net. We're strong enough to handle our business without cheerleaders.

[–]Cesare_MA 3 points3 points [recovered] | Copy

One of the biggest ways TRP empowered me was by reinforcing that I alone am enough to withstand pretty much any calamity; that no matter what happens today, tomorrow I will be back on the grind doing what I gotta do.

Feels fucking good.

[–]Endorsed Contributorsadomasochrist23 points24 points  (0 children) | Copy

There are a lot of societies that have no safety nets, there are none you want to live in. Despite our ability to get as Rollo put it, zero'd out, dust ourselves off and start again, don't mistake that as a unilateral reason to eliminate it. There's a place between libertarian nightmare and socialist hellhole. And eventually, you learn to love it.

[–]smint12341 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Men has always had to die for the existence of humanity, therefore helping men and boys that are dying is against the existence of humanity.

[–]imadazhell1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Replies are focusing on the girls. But none on 23yo film director Riley Reynolds recruiting them to crash at his Miami Beach house.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon147 points148 points  (12 children) | Copy

Women get support, men get blame.

Female virtue is always defended, even where no such virtue exists. Society just can't admit that girls do porn not out of desperation but out of laziness and indifference. While men are taught to put infinite value on the precious vagina, women themselves rent it out cheaply in preference to doing real work. When her gender studies degree turns out to be useless for getting a job she blames men for her lack of STEM career and then does porn. And all the white knights publicly agree how abused and damaged she is, privately and shamefully ejaculating to her image, secretly wishing they were the ones to defile her.

It is just socially unacceptable to blame women for their part in this. Men are defined as the abusers, women are perfect until they are damaged (by men of course). Women are defined to be never inherently bad. Men are always defined as the perpetrators. Men are never said to be damaged. Women are never said to be inherently bad.

The result of this is that no matter the outcome of any interaction between a man and a woman... regardless of her actions, regardless of her behaviour, regardless of her enjoyment: the man is to blame. It's always either abuse or "taking advantage" or misleading or damaging.

And the worse female behaviour gets, the more value is placed upon the illusion of the female as the perfect unicorn. When there are no unicorns to be seen, there clearly must be someone to blame. Society turns to men and points "YOU did this to our innocents... it is YOUR fault". And in a way it is. We've allowed ourselves to believe that female behaviour is acceptable and beyond the need for control or restriction of boundaries.

While women are universally engaging in the "it wasn't my fault, it was his" blame game, men are pointing the finger at each other as they rush to her defence. Everyone is doing the same thing.

We've learned by now that women abuse their freedom and then blame men for the consequences. It's not going to change. It's up to us to stand up and draw boundaries... while not being drawn into their web of damage and blame.

[–]ComradeDurdenTRP47 points48 points  (5 children) | Copy

Society just can't admit that girls do porn not out of desperation but out of laziness and indifference.

I'm reminded of the Duke University pornstrar from a couple years back. Used to listen to Opie & Anthony, she made an appearance on one of their broadcasts. Her purported reason for getting into the industry? "I wanted to be self-reliant and not a financial burden on my family!" Alright, fair enough. She'd done the math, as she puts it, and realized that by sucking a dick on camera just a couple of times a year she could easily pay off her entire college tuition and even earn a profit.

Unsurprisingly, though, instead of acknowledging and thus red-pilling the audience that women have some shortcuts to success that men will never have access to in their life time, she instead portrays herself as a strong and independent feminist role model who was able to break through the glass ceiling, blah blah blah...

Meanwhile, I'm sure there were a lot of young men in the same class as her who also had to work while attending college. Only they weren't banging attractive young nubiles all day long and getting paid forit. Perhaps they were majoring in computer science and had to do some software development freelancing on the side. Or they were studying to become an engineer but had to do pizza delivery to make enough money to afford food. None of them got a chance to go on satellite radio and tell their inspiring underdog stories, tho

Thus we have on our hands an interesting... it's not even a double standard. More of a cognitive dissonance, really. If a woman decides to enter the porn industry, takes it up the ass, and later regrets it — she's a blameless victim who's been exploited by sleazy male producers, colleagues, and viewers and left a hollow shell of her former self. If, however, she decided to enter the industry, received commercial success, and then maybe even became a producer or launched her own studio, she's a savvy businesswoman who was able to use men's heightened sex drive to go from rags to riches.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon20 points21 points  (0 children) | Copy

"I wanted to be self-reliant and not a financial burden on my family!" Alright, fair enough. She'd done the math, as she puts it, and realized that by sucking a dick on camera just a couple of times a year she could easily pay off her entire college tuition and even earn a profit.

Except that she's female. So she's putting the best possible spin on things at all times. All communication is PR for women. Truth is that inconvenient thing you work around in order not to get called a liar too much.

So "not wanting to be a burden on my family" is almost certainly not true. How do I know? Because women never give a fuck who they burden. More likely is "I wanted to suck a lot of dick", which is something women in porn never admit to.

Meanwhile, I'm sure there were a lot of young men in the same class as her who also had to work while attending college

Most of these men also helped women too. And the women got easier grades because tits and tears.

. If a woman decides to enter the porn industry, takes it up the ass, and later regrets it — she's a blameless victim who's been exploited by sleazy male producers, colleagues, and viewers and left a hollow shell of her former self. If, however, she decided to enter the industry, received commercial success, and then maybe even became a producer or launched her own studio, she's a savvy businesswoman who was able to use men's heightened sex drive to go from rags to riches.

Indeed. Women get credit for EVERYTHING. Giving birth is FUCKING AMAZING. It's the most incredible miracle ever!

Noone ever says "an amoeba can do that, and do it faster too".

[–]Patriarchysaurus6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Wow, you really don't have enough upvotes for posting this. It's awesome.

[–]JF09091 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I remember that segment on O&A. Didn't they eventually call her out on her bullshit and she started crying?

[–]1empatheticapathetic0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Love this comment and of course Mattys. Would be great if you made it into a stand alone post as you've got a great example to clearly explain the double standard here.

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (0 children) | Copy

When her gender studies degree turns out to be useless for getting a job

Honestly most women in porn probably don't even have the tenacity to pursue something as easy as getting a bullshit state college degree. GO TO CLASS? EW! READ? EW! ID RATHER FUCK CHADS IN LA FOR ALL THE FREE MONEY, CLOTHES AND DRUGS I CAN GET.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy

It's deeply rooted in biology that men are instigators and women are reactors. This was because until fairly recently women had no agenda and men were dominant. The feminist movement used this and manipulated perceptions to push the agenda that women are never at fault, and men are the problem, even when women are now taking action and making decisions (most notably poor one). So they've effectively flipped the script and made themselves the victim even when they're the ones pulling the strings

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

t's deeply rooted in biology that men are instigators and women are reactors.

Right. The annoyance is that we don't admit this. We're so busy pretending women are our equals that we don't notice they aren't.

So they've effectively flipped the script and made themselves the victim even when they're the ones pulling the strings

Yep. Women are perpetually blaming and pushing responsibility onto men. They do this in relationships, and they do this in larger society.

Women's tendency to avoid responsibility is mirrored by all the white knights all-too-ready to burden themselves with it and castrate themselves in the process.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Yep, nailed it. But that's not necessarily unfair. Just intersexual dynamics. Don't whine, get ahead.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

If there is such a concept as fair and unfair, then it is most definitely unfair.

But perhaps there is no such thing as fair and unfair in the first place.

Don't whine, get ahead.

There is a place for information sharing.

Even if you can't get ahead, at least don't get pushed down.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 133 points134 points  (13 children) | Copy

It's interesting to me that someone would set out to make a documentary that highlights the ease with which women can make money simply by flashing some tits and expect it to prove their victimhood.

[–]Endorsed Contributorsadomasochrist55 points56 points  (7 children) | Copy

Why do you think any time someone says "okay, prove it" to any of these concepts people shut up and move on?

Okay let's prove that all MRAs are horrible pigs.

Commence red pilling of feminist who when running her new found, undisputable knowledge up the flagpole gets immolated and broadcast as a warning to others to keep toeing that line, keep your head down and your mouth on lock.

Okay let's prove that women get paid less than men for the same job.

Commence the government red pilling themselves and then shutting down the research.

Okay let's prove that women want jobs that men have that they don't have access to.

Commence women redistributing themselves into "female typical" jobs after it becomes clear they do not want "male typical" jobs.

Hey let's run a meta study to demonstrate the dualistic hypothesis is false.

Hey Jane... let's just call them racist, misogynistic instead.

I have seen only one consistent reply to all these various angles that is endemic to the left. "This does not explain the entirety of human behavior." No shit. As if this is some revolutionary point any time someone makes an observation about widespread, systemic behavior.

But if you say "prove that doesn't apply, in most cases" you can sit back and just wait for the invariable response that the same methodologies applied to studies that were sufficient to demonstrate against a narrative we hold (despite 9 times out of 10, them misunderstanding the framework and instead arguing in support of it), would be instead an issue of the "replication crisis."

And even if you ask them to make a basic observation that is obvious they will claim to be ruthlessly agnostic and unable to extrapolate or abstract some viewpoint unless on its face it would appear to support their narrative.

That's why I love the use of the term "red pilling" or "getting woke." It's visceral. You learn, and each question begets another. Until you are so sick in your gut about the person you used to be, you immolate your intellectual foundation and start fresh.

And then, you truly grow, and find the knowledge that you had been blind to before, not because you couldn't see, but because you didn't want to.

Edit : Fixed a grammar error as pointed out below.

[–]lll_lll_lll17 points18 points  (4 children) | Copy

Not to be a dick but just FYI it is toeing the line, not towing. Like a battle line that you have your toes up against, not a thing you are dragging behind you.

[–]Fyrjefe0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

It's such a strange metaphor because it's used in a negative context that reads something like, "bear the burden of the status quo". I too only recently learnt it really portrayed standing up to a line in the sand. Anyway, back to the regularly scheduled programme!

[–]systemshock8690 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

People use it in the context of the false spelling making sense, yes.

[–]haroldpeters0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

wow thanks I always thought this was about hauling some long ass thick rope with something heavy attached to it...

[–]CosmicSpiral0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

an issue of the "replication crisis."

Ah yes, the nonexistent crisis that owes its memetic existence to the inherently perverse incentives of "scientific" fields (sociology, economics, psychology) and media publications that uncritically promote whatever studies happens to be most outrageous or ideologically suspect. This has already been thoroughly explained but doubters will fight tooth and nail to protect the supposed integrity of their disciplines regardless. ;)

[–]1empatheticapathetic0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It's all a shit test. It's a test of frame. If you believe what you believe, it doesn't even matter if it's true because women don't actually care about the facts. They care about a strong frame and entering that frame since they live in a subjective reality.

But the only way a dude (who isn't a psychopath) can have a strong (justifiable to themselves) frame is to construct that frame in objective reality.

[–]KnowBrainer8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

Recruitment video in disguise

[–]Self-honest23 points24 points  (3 children) | Copy

If the target audience is women, then you know as well as I do that without a rational male voice in the conversation, they are more than capable of making the mental leaps to get to victimhood.

A better way to put it might be, a woman who is in the frame of a good man will have her heard mentality tempered. Unfortunately there aren't enough good men with strong frames out there. The climate of feminism and white knights provides a great opportunity to make money with a film like this.

After doing a little digging on google, it looks like the girls in the documentary feel they were lied to and manipulated by the film makers. This is the real case of women being taken advantage of for profit. They care less about getting paid for sex (acting in porn) and more about being outed as sluts (in a documentary) and losing their social standing.

Here's the article I found: http://www.laweekly.com/news/porn-industry-warns-performers-about-hot-girls-wanted-8587818

[–]thewrecker812 points13 points  (2 children) | Copy

So when they get flown to Miami and are told "this guy is going to fuck you in the ass then make you gag on his cock until he cums on your face while we film it". Who puts the gun to their heads to make them do it?

[–]Endorsed Contributorsadomasochrist14 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy

Really, I could write that article in my sleep.

  • Born in a broken home
  • Facing extraordinary circumstances
  • A victim of consumer culture gone wrong
  • She just wanted to fit in
  • Thought it would be fun, exciting and empowering

I could do this all day.

[–]Self-honest0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I believe that would be the unchecked ID.

[–]forever_alpha35 points36 points  (0 children) | Copy

And again it’s all about self-responsibility.

The only people that have no responsibility for their actions are mentally handicapped people and children.

I don’t even know why that seems so hard to grasp for Betas and some women.

[–]RedSkeller27 points28 points  (1 child) | Copy

Not to mention, not one saved a dime in the process. Almost 50 scenes later and the chick had nothing to show for it, and on the flip side, in “After porn ends” all these ex pornstars are being sent hundreds of thousands of dollars for support from fans but are astonished they can’t live regular lives. Watch the Hot girls wanted documentary series as well, it’s even more damning.

[–]askmrcia4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Almost 50 scenes later and the chick had nothing to show for it,

Makes sense. I'm guessing the money they make don't cover insurance and other benefits that people would get from a normal job. And they are most likely not investing any of it.

[–]binarynightmare69 points70 points  (12 children) | Copy

Unpopular opinion, I actually enjoyed the documentary and didn't really see it as any more than an expose on how close the porn industry is to home. It's easy to think that the 21 year olds we see in porn are these vegas born and raised coke heads, when in actuality it's just girls from our own neighborhoods who were young and bored. Definitely enforces concepts of abundance and AWALT.

[–]spencerc2541 points42 points  (5 children) | Copy

I felt the same way. A couple of the girls, my initial reaction was "yea she's kinda cute not sure if she'll make it". Then with all the makeup, lighting, and aura of it being a porn video, I realized she looks really attractive in the video. But off screen she was just another marginally cute girl I could run into at the local grocery store.

[–]dsade16 points17 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's been a long time since I watched this, but I laughed at the one that got too fat for normal porn, and "had" to go into the abuse/bondage porn.

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (3 children) | Copy

Same with Instagram models bro. Makeup can do a lot. There’s some fat beast on instagram my wife follows for makeup tips. First time I saw her I thought she was a 9, then I saw a full body pic of her without makeup. Straight up she’s a 3. Holy fuck.

[–]spencerc259 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

Add in the dating apps too. Thank god some of these chicks link their instagram and have at least one non flattering pic where you see what they'd look like in broad daylight, full body. Hard no.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

With all the tricks and tips fat girls know for taking selfies.. They could seriously work film/photo shoots in hollywood.

Except they'd probably call in sick like once a week and make up the stupidest fucking excuses for not doing their actual work.

[–]1empatheticapathetic2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Would be interested in seeing said hambeast for myself.

[–]dza76wutang9 points10 points  (5 children) | Copy

I found it surprising how short the "careers" normally are, which made me wonder how some heavy hitters like Lisa Ann keep it up for so long.

[–]binarynightmare6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Or how many girls you know that had that short stretch in their life before returning to the neighborhood. I know at least one

[–]thewrecker85 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

Just a guess but I think drugs play a big part in that. Just like a lot of girls who are dancers, a lot of them have to get fucked up to get on stage whether it's coke or booze.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

True. Lots of girls can’t hang. I worked with a guy who was in the industry (male performer). Even he hated it. Said it was disgusting. He said those girls are not that hot up close. It sounds great but in fact you bang a bunch of skeez for even skeezier business men.

[–]1Metalageddon1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Great genetics and being willing to do things others won't. Plus they take care of themselves instead of drugging up and having a more resilient personality.

[–]Anaboliholic3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Let me please preface this post with complete disavowal of any association with the ideology of the chinless loser shit this place is about (I had a father). (And have a little girl.)

The answer to your (rhetorical?) question is mileage, in the Iceberg Slim sense recently highlighted by Chappelle.

Prostitution, including pornography, requires a resilient personality for longevity, otherwise bitches can't handle living in a way that is so obviously against their evolved and culturally provided incentives even when those incentives are obsolete because of contraception, cultural change, etc.; minds don't know/feel that yet.

Future shock bb, ride that tiger, homo neophilus saddles a shockwave.

Hos up Gs down; don't hate the player. Hate the game.

[–]theawesomekate22 points23 points  (0 children) | Copy

This documentary is despised by porn stars and cam girls. The narrative that sex workers are damaged and forced into the line of work hurts everyone. It makes sex work appear shameful to perform and consume, keeps prostitution illegal, makes it difficult for sex workers to apply for housing, open bank accounts, etc. And all of it is in the name of 'Women would never choose that lifestyle. They couldn't possibly. They must be victims.' Another way to paint women as children and absolve them of personal choice and responsibility.

This is the documentary I urge people to watch instead. The director just let the girls talk about their experience in porn without the dark narrative edited onto it. https://vimeo.com/155155963

[–]RedHoodhandles10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

I just watched it. Women damaging their SMV beyond repair. It's pretty disgusting. Can recommend.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy

I saw this a few months ago and it amazed me that it was sympathetic to the girls who were adults making their own bad choices.

And there were still boys at home waiting for them!

[–]1empatheticapathetic0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Always boys everywhere. Get used to it, it makes life easier.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (2 children) | Copy

Women make tons of money in porn. Meanwhile most male porn actors make 10% of what females make, if they're lucky. Many are just in it for the free sex because thats all they will really get and maybe $100 for their time. The only way a man can make anything other than coffee and cab fare is to go "gay for pay" and do gay porn. Women can earn hundreds of thousands of dollars.

[–]mattizie2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

I heard somewhere that porn doesn't actually pay that well. But women do it because the fame means that men will pay a premium to fuck them as an escort. Makes sense. I mean, who pays for porn nowadays.

[–]1empatheticapathetic0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It gives them fame, validation and the lifestyle. And they can escort on the side for their main pay like you pointed out.

[–]1SirKolbath6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy

Some time ago I commented on this list and how women were gradually growing more and more sluttish. From one well known female porn star in the 1950s to dozens before 2010 to hundreds now. (The Wikipedia article only notes the top few names. It would probably take too much server space to note all current female porn stars.)The rise of homemade pornography also demonstrates that women are enjoying almost no restrictions on their behavior. They live in a perpetual world of "If it feels good, do it," and anyone who judges them is simply a "h8ter"

Spoiled. Entitled. Privileged... And the funny thing is that these same women who willingly sell their dignity on camera so they can purchase a few shiny baubles are the first ones to whine and cry about being objectified by porn for scenes they willingly chose to do and for which they received vast sums of money.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Here's a fun experiment to try: Ask a few girls, "will you have sex with me for $200?" Most will say no. Ask them instead: "I'm looking for an actress for a porn movie, but the budget is only $200. Would you be interested?" Note the difference in reaction.


[–]1SirKolbath0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Of that $200 budget, the woman would make $190 and the male talent $10 for the same scene.

[–][deleted] 24 points25 points  (0 children) | Copy

The documentary is 84 minutes long.

That’s 84 minutes you should have been lifting.

Nothing to see here. Get back to work.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil11 points12 points  (7 children) | Copy

To really understand the situation we have to examine the underlying incentive structure. The first thing we should consider is the majority of goods are marketed at women especially young women. Walk into a suburban mall and ask yourself what percentage of stores here are aimed at women? 80% seems fair. Ok so young women have a lot of manufactured needs.

Next if we examine the environments that produce these women high school and college, well find that these places are very wary of upsetting these girls for fear of lawsuit. Thus you create lazy entitled people who never hear no and have inflated demands for goods.

How do these essentially useless people get the things marketers tell them they need? Vagina hole.

[–]redpill771 point2 points  (6 children) | Copy

You seem to always bring it back to capitalism. So far, I'm buying it. I wonder why it's not more often mentioned in discussions on this sub.

It's obvious that marketing works by bypassing people's reasoning and playing to thier vulnerabilities. With decreasing accessibility to headstrong male leaders (of families, of communities) women's drive to feel special/one-of-a-kind lacks both a satisfying father figure (the attention from which could validate her) and the guidance not to submit to the consumerist power structure.

The uptake of MGTOW as a socially accepted sect of society could provide a stabilizing effect. Sexually unsuccessful men could learn how to be happy, avoiding contributing to women's entitlement and inflated self-worth, and forming a new majority consumer who is less easily manipulated.

We see feminists opposing sex-bots for devaluing sex- how else could females retain their immense power. Looking at it from another angle, it's easy to see how sex-bots would also challenge capitalism. Keeping men sexually ungratified is the only, or at least best, way to keep the productive members of society susceptible to manipulation. MGTOWs would have a minimalist approach to participating in the economy.

Perhaps that would be no better than our current state of affairs. Perhaps the way it currently is is the best we can hope for. So really the only real problem is that those of us either with compassion, or who still feel connected to our past-selves/loser brethren, feel the need to ensure that the current drive to rid men of personhood and to strip their human rights is put to a stop.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

I always bring it back to capitalism because capitalism is the religion of the west. I have nothing against capitalism as an economic system however when it becomes the primary moral system of a society everyone become a proverbial whore and then we have a serious crisis. One such manifestation is women pawning their marriages in divorce court.

MGTOW are the Hegelian Antithesis to feminism. MGTOW is exactly what feminists want disengaged men forfeiting the future. Furthermore MGTOW are the physical embodyment of the Nietzschean Last Man. They have no morality beyond seeking pleasure and avoiding pain. Julias Evola believes this to be the embodiment of Slave consciousness

The most important task for a man is to take control of the future. That's the only thing that truly matters.

[–]redpill770 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I'm trying to find a way to leave no man behind without forcing some unnatural change in the pareto distribution of sex. The current system of blue pills already has them as slaves, manipulated through sex. Perhaps the priviledge of man is how meaningful it is that he has to take his own freedom despite the odds being against him at least 4:1.

[–]TheWrathofShane2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

I actually went to school for advertising. It is a very profitable and powerful multi billion dollar industry. Every one knows what McDonalds is. Why does McDonalds continue to spend a billion dollars a year on advertisement? Because it empyrically works. There is a direct correlation between when a commercial airs on TV and how many people visit a local McDonalds. They will manage the schedule around when a major commercial is airing on TV.

When is the last time you went to McDonalds and thought, man this is so tasty, I am so glad I came here... The schooling literally taught that if you had a bad turnout after your commercial, you did your job wrong. Go back to the basics (after you get fired). If McDonalds had a great turnout, you made a great commercial. What does any of this have to do with McDonalds, the actual restaurant? The turnout is all based on the 30 second compliation of words, images, and sounds you put in your commercial.

Its scary because the industry has it down to a psychological level. The school I went to was a simple technical school, but it broke it down into easy to digest bite sized pieces what psychologically works and what doesnt. A formula to structure a commercial to best appeal to the subconscious mind, and sell the product or the vote..

Yes, advertisement is literally evil and literally manipulation. It does not make an intellectual argument to buy or vote for something, it manipulates emotions, and gets you to subconsciously associate an emotion with a brand all in the span of 30 seconds. I could not morally make my career in that industry so I walked away. This is also why I avoid watching commercials when I can. Thank God for adblock.

If politicians were aware and actually gave a shit, they would push every high school student read the introduction to advertisement 101 study guide.

Oh yeah, worldwide politicians are banned from making commercials, except in the USA. For the very reason that it empirically is emotional manipulation on a subconscious level to get you to associate a politician with a feeling, all within the span of 30 seconds.. Think about the media humans have had historically. Text, art, radio. TV is all three in one and makes for one hell of a combination to our subconscious.

[–]redpill770 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Interesting. Am I right assuming females are more easily manipulated by advertising? Is it just different approaches? Are they just most important because they're the biggest purchasers?

[–]TheWrathofShane0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

They are more emotional so yes

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Very interesting. I have personally had to fight off cheeseburger cravings after seeing fast food ads. I mean I can be sitting there watching TV, not hungry at all, and I see an ad for Jack In The Box or Burger King, and suddenly, I'm hungry. I have to consciously tell myself, hey, you're just responding to the images on the screen, sit back down, you're not going to eat right now.

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy

What's so incredibly ironic is that the documentary pushes a narrative of the women being victims, and yet the images presented to the viewer clearly show that these women choose to be in the situation they're in.

By creating an idea of victimhood from choice, it unintentionally shows women as simply unable to make their own choices, and have their ideals and minds, the exact opposite of what feminism and society try to show.

It essentially disproves itself.

[–]pookie5134 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Watch the Hot Girls Wanted mini series. The episode, Tinder iirc, was an eye opener. Dude got laid left and right, but practiced no deep development of himself. He meets a women, she shit tests him, he falls apart. Notch count be damned.

[–]Reformed65 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

For them, it's a great deal.

They don't have to put in physical long hours of work typing away on the computer, doing manual labour or using their brain to think of new idea, all they have to do is open their legs and mouth.

Plus, they get paid for it, huge money. And if it isn't enough- if they're not hot or spicy and just "cute" then they can always open their legs more than usual.

They also get fucked by Chads and Tyrones which means their attention-bank is running wild with "omg Chad is fucking me!!!"

But then what happens? It spirals, soon it becomes boring they want MORE, they want more Chadly Chads, they want more cocks so then they start participating in gangbangs or other weird porn videos.

Then, unless they still have the look, get brushed aside in their mid 20s and replaced with new young fresh pussies in their early 20s.

After that, it's over. Gone, their reputation is ruined, their brain is fucked, they've been robbed of their humanity and respect but they're still breathing. They become zombies. No one of respect would want them.

But then you have dumbasses that still marry and provide for them.

[–]Fedor_Gavnyukov2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

nothing weird about a gangbang

[–]1empatheticapathetic1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I don't think it matters if someone of respect wants them or not, they can lie about whatever they have to to trap a man. The issue is they can't enjoy it because they have burnt their dopamine receptors out and they secretly hate themselves, which therefore means they hate any guy who is willing to accept them. If he knows about her past and accepts her, he's worthless. And if he doesn't know, she hates him for being clueless.

[–]Cunari2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

This article had a good point but some of the stuff that was written that was hard to swallow. That's what I find in a lot of red pill/men's rights they make a good point and they shove in some stuff that makes you go woah too far.

But feminists don't want to acknowledge the privilege of being able to be a sex object or baby making object two things that men are not really able to do. They always want to take about the hardships of giving birth rather than the monopoly of the womb.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's a fascinating dichotomy. The number one issue I have with feminism is the lack of agency they allow women. It is framed as male exploitation not an adult making a decision.

I have a very hard time buying into someone like Rachel (better known as Ava Taylor) being a victim of exploitation when she chose to stay in the industry for what, several months, and then left of her own volition. Now that she managed to establish a name for herself she's running a snapchat premium...

Or better yet Mia Khalifa who did it long enough to get a fanbase, bounced, and has a sports talk show with Gilbert Arenas now. So exploited. /s

No one put a gun to their heads and forced them to do it. No one prevented them from leaving. They wanted easy money, attention, and validation.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Lowest form of human life: Criminals

Second lowest form of human life: Vagrants and welfare sponges

Third lowest form of life human life: People who have sex for money

This used to be common sense, but apparently it needs to be added into the high school curriculum now.

[–]urbancore1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I don't know who is more disgusting; Tressa or her boyfriend. Dude, what the fuck? Grow a pair of balls.

Also, these people live like pigs, all of them. Clean up after yourself. Self respect starts with making your fucking bed every GOD damn morning. Jesus Christ! Sorry bastards, the whole lot of em.

[–]BlackCraneStoic1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Just as the Yakuza own Japan in a vice grip the Zionist Jews have America on lock and seek to destroy men by mean of racial conflicts women and other dissension. On one hand I'd like to see a mass awakening leading to a societal revolution but on the other I feel like the sheep of the West deserve the tyranny that their society is becoming denigrated to.

[–]do_it_or_leave 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

How does this helps anyone here?

[–]freto2231 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy

it doesn’t this dude is ruining trp lol

like i’ve said how is this helping you or anyone improve there smv? this is just drama and bitching about women so you can distract yourself with this bullshiit. none of this matters unless you want to bitch like a female..

this guy is making this sub drama distractions and to bitch about women.../ more drama politics.. you are focusing on the wrong shit dude

he’s turning this into men’s rights..

how one guy is allowed to completely cut off post and post his bullshit politic drama/bitching about women is beyond me this is literally like female gossip drama

this is probably a guy who wants to distract people and himself of awalt with politics because he doesn’t want to give up his disney fairy tale or just some lazy fuck who doesn’t want to improve to become chad and despises chad with the crab in the bucket mentality. i could be wrong but 70% sure

this guy is an alt right btw he’s making trp his drama politics sub.. and you guys are letting it lol

there isn’t even field reports just this guys drama

we had one good post though , which was the awalt post about the lover and the provider(even though it could have been summed up and worded a bit better)

edit: banned for the truth lol

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

he’s turning this into men’s rights..

Men's rights has always been a flair on TRP.

[–]Rian_Stone1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Normally, I would totally agree. I'm old school Mystery Method. Anything that isn't strategy, concepts, or field reports is meaningless to me.

In this case, I have to admit there is a reason for it. bear with the small backstory here, I'm getting to a point.

There's this group of wannabe TRADCON betas, using a hastag #upstream twitter. One of their founders, a fucking loon named artfulman. If anyone has been following illimitablemen for any length of time knows him. He's another brit who IM helped get a bit of a following, and blocked once he showed himself to be an impotent narcissist who is so focused on MBTI, that he's just useless. All they have done is have Rollo help them with a lot of his writing, repackage RSD/MarkManson/TuckerMaxx concepts, and shit all over RP for being 'too angry'. Talk about no good deed going unpunished...

Now, artful has a friend who was just acccused of #metoo bullshit as well. turns out you can't just 'self improvement' your way out of this shit. And this guy isn't famous, he's actually a 30 year old failure. But he is working on it, and aparently made some good progress. So at this point, I kind of see the point. Too many guys keep LARPING their masculinity, and are getting bit in the ass for it. A positive attitude and hitting the gym is no guarantee your career is safe, especially if you recieve any amount of notoriety.

So these MRA posts have a place. I would hate to see them overrun the real work in here, but we can't ignore them. Not without sending a few poor bastards to get slaughtered.

[–]2Overkillengine0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The issue being how to go about extracting the educational value out of them about the hazards out there in society without creating an outrage porn economy.

[–]Burgundy1452 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

I've learn there are 2 different types of guys on this forum. And I'm in the group with you.

[–]Fedor_Gavnyukov2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

that is some of the saddest cuckiest shit of an article I've read in a while. this guy lives in some self righteous, conservative, 50s household world where only his way of doing things is the right way. who cares about these broads? plenty more are available and feeling sorry for them is the last thing you should be doing. like j cole said "she don't wanna be saved, don't save her"

[–]deville050 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Nah it shows how naive and dumb kids get into this trap that is laid out for them.

[–]TheWrathofShane0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This would cause a serious temptation for some fathers and brothers to fall into sin. Even if they never even considered it before, they now can click a button in private and watch this adult female, who has unconditional love for them biologically rooted somewhere within her, commit lewd acts of sex. In a sense its as if she is doing it right in front of them.

This might lead them to tempt her to sex with them in real life. One day they get a one on one, and say something in the ballpark of,

"Hey sorry if this is too awkward for you. But I cant help but be turned on by your content. How much do they pay you? I will double it for a discrete night with you! Once again sorry if its too much, I cant help myself. At the very least you could understand being in the porn industry and all and expecting me not to judge you for it."

So you can see this can have a major corrupting impact on all male family members. Not to mention that it can influence other female family members to follow in her footsteps. Its corrupting to the entire family when a daughter runs off to porn like this.

Also its not something they can even discuss in social circles. It becomes a great dark secret. "You fucked your daughter, what the fuck is wrong with you!" That would cause you to bottle that until your grave, which is extremely unhealthy and damaging.

I dont think its a coincidence that "stepcest" is becoming an extremely popular in the adult industry.

On another note. Their is a porn actress called "cytheria". She did hardcore porn for many years and is known as the squirt queen. She got pregnant, and did hardcore porn while being pregnant. Now she has a boy and recently survived rape. She still does porn to this day.

Imagine what its going to be like for her son when he starts to go through puberty. When he finds out that his mothers wealth comes from the adult industry. That the women he biologically has unconditional love rooted somewhere within him, is just one click away from "having sex" with her.... Yeah sounds like a great upbringing for a child, that will produce a stable, healthy adult in the world.

[–]GEN_GOTHMOG-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy

The opposite end of this spectrum is the Rocco documentary on Netflix.

When he was a kid in Italy, before he left he went to see his mothers friend to say goodbye to her as she was a good family friend. She cried and they hugged, tightly. He then (out of nowhere) pulled his cock out and jizzed in her mouth inside three seconds. She was astonished at what just happened. He simply turned around and left.

This is a woman his mothers age.

[–]VancouverSucks1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

You are half right. The story happened when he was much older after his mother funeral.

[–][deleted] 28 points29 points  (0 children) | Copy

A neighbor girl chooses to engage in hypergamy instead of developing her other qualities. Hot or not, good riddance, to her. She took the easy road, and the only reason anybody cares is because she has a vagina. The opposite would be a man robbing a woman because he’s stronger, instead of getting real job. I have no sympathy for either.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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