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"You have to understand. Most people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured and so hopelessly dependent on the system that they will fight to protect it." Cognitive dissonance-whenever bias prevents someone from even considering an alternative view let alone weigh the merits.

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Title "You have to understand. Most people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured and so hopelessly dependent on the system that they will fight to protect it." Cognitive dissonance-whenever bias prevents someone from even considering an alternative view let alone weigh the merits.
Author redpillschool
Upvotes 189
Comments 56
Date 09 January 2018 03:37 PM UTC (2 years ago)
Subreddit TheRedPill
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/226709
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/7p7ua6/you_have_to_understand_most_people_are_not_ready/
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[–]Modredpillschool[S] 84 points85 points  (6 children) | Copy

"Did you ask why he was reading TRP stuff? Unless there’s an intelligent or academic reason, I’d peace out of that relationship ASAP."


"If your boyfriend is part of the redpill/"manosphere" communities then I think it's time to get a new boyfriend."


"I'd advise dumping his childish ass, and maybe tossing him into the river just to be safe."

(remember folks, TRP is full of violence, and violence is bad unless it's against a man)


"Why are you still seeing him?"


"Do not pass go. Just get out. I’m sorry. I’m sure he has many appealing qualities. None of them with make up for being an insecure bully. I’ve been down that road."


The feminine imperative working hard to protect its own interests. It could read:

"Guys discussing female strategy? We must punish this behavior at the cost of this individual's relationship to make an example and promote our group's interests."

[–]Moist___40 points41 points  (2 children) | Copy

It's so funny how they talk about this sub so negatively when it's clear they've never read a single thing here and just hop on the incelwagon and think all manosphere subs are the same

[–][deleted] 26 points27 points  (0 children) | Copy

Incels haven't exactly found it pleasant here.....

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

Women frequently lurk on this subreddit and read submissions and comments, but they are intentionally misinforming people by saying how TRP is advocating violence against women and what not.

[–]NarcKammerjaeger2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

In this context it is: Childish=he won't sacrifice his life for her!

[–][deleted] 65 points66 points  (2 children) | Copy

Jesus Christ on a damn unicycle.

This is why Fight Club has it's rules.

How DARE men try to make their lives about themselves??!?!

This is status quo.

That's appalling.

Yet tolerated and opposing viewpoints vilified.

Fuck. Men.

[–]keepacleanmachine0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

PS I was banned from that sub for my posts

[–][deleted] 29 points30 points  (2 children) | Copy

Brutal.

I'm a big fan of nuking posts on TRP which violate the rules, or make us look like idiots. Comments, however, are usually fine.

I've noticed it's the opposite in the bloopie world, where intriguing discussions are locked down and posts become comment graveyards.

Also.....a sure sign of an incomplete understanding of TRP are comments like we all blame others for our problems. So. Much. Projection. Do you even lift, bro?

[–]OhhDatDogOMine19 points20 points  (1 child) | Copy

Also.....a sure sign of an incomplete understanding of TRP are comments like we all blame others for our problems. So. Much. Projection. Do you even lift, bro?

I hear this all the time about TRP, yet if I was to blame anybody but myself for my problems I would get down-voted and put in my place.

[–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (0 children) | Copy

Every fucking time, rightly so, and me too.

To be completely honest, "Do you even lift, bro?" ("dost thou even heave, good sir?") is my go to when talking manosphere. It neatly sidesteps women entirely (make yourself the best you can be!) and put the locus of control on the individual.

I thought that was the stupidest, most trite line ever. I'm decently educated, both technically and liberally, and I honestly have come to think "Do you even lift, bro?" is fucking brilliant......because the real question is "What are you doing to improve your life?"

[–]FirstNamesMusic52 points53 points  (2 children) | Copy

Jesus the white knighting in that thread makes me cringe.

Throwing away all their needs and natural desires to coincide with the female imperative and the culture side lie that man should give everything just to comfort a woman.

Just really adds to my thought that all feminism is basically a culture wide shit test in a country thast desperately needs strong men or we will die.

[–]enjoy_life887 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

Everything there sounds like it's written by a woman and then you see the Mars symbol next to their username - actually hurts a bit.

[–]OhhDatDogOMine14 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy

then you see the Mars symbol next to their username - actually hurts a bit.

Don't be hurt. Laugh instead.

Laugh at all these mangina cucks. Even online they will virtue signal and whiteknight for 'm lady'. The more of these low T clowns the more pussy for you.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 44 points45 points  (4 children) | Copy

"Emotionally healthy mature men don't want submissive partners in most aspects of the relationship. "

Remember next time somebody says "There's plenty of good advice for men out there, TRP doesn't need to exist."

It's these kinds of lies that put men here in the first place.

If you buy this lie you'll always wonder why your relationship didn't work. They repeat it, but always leaving out that they will always be more attracted to a man that is dominant. People didn't buy 50 shades of grey because it turns them off.

This is how the devious feminine imperative accomplishes its goal. Repeat a lie that the weakest men will buy. Those who don't get it will see how one would likely fail, but naturals get submission and respect simply by being.

Disclaimer: Obviously there's some nuance to respect and submission that a sperg is going to miss. If this guy goes from a malleable sucker to verbally demanding respect the next day, he's not going to get it. You don't demand respect, just like you can't negotiate desire.

[–]swagile2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I think the worst part about all of this isn't the men posting this (there will always be men seeking women's approval), nor the women (its in their nature), but the future generation that is being hoodwinked by these people.

I was one of those men until everything just didn't make sense and I started looking things up in the internet, but people like me are rare; ESPECIALLY when those you are supposed to trust (your teacher, your parents, the media, government) all say the opposite.

And now the Internet is being invaded by those same type of people; those who seek to keep brainwashing the young to keep them young, dumb, and full of cum for the future generation of women to pump for resources.

Whenever ANYONE reads subs like this, remember. Its not the men and women you should be lamenting (for they will not change nor do they want to), its the younger generation that we should be worried about.

Maybe im going a little too deep into this, but its really upsetting to see so much good content here, and then realize most men won't even get to read it because they are blinded by everything else in their life to the truth so that they keep being willing sperm and work horses to women in a dying society that requires real men (aka leaders).

[–]Sum_of_all_beers2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Disclaimer: Obviously there's some nuance to respect and submission that a sperg is going to miss. If this guy goes from a malleable sucker to verbally demanding respect the next day, he's not going to get it. You don't demand respect, just like you can't negotiate desire.

Looks like the guy discussed in the linked post was at least part sperg himself. He verbally demanded that she respect his boundaries and his judgment without first laying the foundation, and then dropped hints that directed her to a TRP post, effectively demanding her submission before he had earned it.

To be fair, most of us do it badly, at first. Which is exactly why TRP is so crucial, so that men have a place to learn from each other, discuss and get the feedback they'll never get from all the women waiting at the finish line. It's also why this lurker is glad that you've killed posting for a while. So all of us can take a break to actually practice TRP, ie STFU, read the sidebar, lift and pursue mission.

[–]CalculatingWolf-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

Sperg? You say g everyone on trp has Aspergers?

[–]wellsking13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy

Saying 90% of men got dealt shit.. wow... rofl. 90% of men on >the planet are single and miserable... ahahahahah....

If you ever needed any more proof no one cares about your wellbeing and mission look no further than this thread. The funny thing is that Im sure most of these people would be the first to say "not all muslims" when talking about terrorists, but are more than ready to tar everyone here with the same brush. This post wall woman (39 lmao) can't even comprehend how most men feel, excellent example of female solipsm.

[–]Jayanon0013 points14 points  (3 children) | Copy

The most hilarious thing is that if you check her post history, she's posted in the RPWomen sub and the OKCupid sub multiple times but is worried that her boyfriend is reading RP material. Classic.

[–]Monero_xm6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

She's worried about losing power. Imagine her 30+ boyfriend exploits his market value and dumps her. She needs him to be her beta bux provider.

[–]TonyZ55432 points33 points  (7 children) | Copy

It’s just funny how they scream, “look at us real men, we don’t want a submissive woman, we want an equal!” The thing is when I come home after a long day, I don’t want someone who will try to challenge me waiting at the door, I want a sweetheart who will make my night easy.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 31 points32 points  (2 children) | Copy

I don’t want someone who will try to challenge me waiting at the door, I want a sweetheart who will make my night easy.

They mistakenly believe that being difficult is the same as being "strong" and that it's attractive and it's your problem that you're "intimidated" by it.

[–]ThrowFader3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

deleted What is this?

[–]SovereignSoul7625 points26 points  (2 children) | Copy

That same guys is the stranger you see 5 years later, sadly and soullessly staring at the fountain in the mall atrium, while his wife swipe, swipe, swipes all of his hard-earned money away, so that she can have the same stuff her friends have.

Just sitting there and wondering why he work 70 hours/wk, has zero say in how his salary is spent, gets zero pussy from his fat wife, and zero respect from anybody in the family.

You asked for it, Mr. "Real Man". Enjoy!

[–]mishasam893 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

omg, this is just tragic..

It's like the most responsible, well meaning men are the ones who are screwed over the most. lol

jesus, irony is a motherfucker!

[–]maplemaximus2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

The funny thing is that they're all just pawns in women's Alpha fux, Beta bux game. These men should be grateful for the Red Pill and yet they cast it aside because women are condemning them, as if Women of all people know what it means to be a real man.

[–]Epictetus20179 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

It has been repeated. Do not talk about your opinions. Do not talk about the TRP to your friends. Never mention it to women. There is a reason for that.

I was lucky enough to be introduced to the Manosphere (Ivan Throne in particular) by a mentor who wanted me to use it as a vehicle for self improvement. (And he was tired of how much I bitched about being unable to get a girlfriend.)

I have made the occasional idiotic post now and then showing my spergle side, but generally shutting up and doing what the vetted people who take time out of their busy day to post has worked marvelously for me. (And reduced my spergling) I am happier and healthier and more fulfilled then I was last year. And I expect that will continue.

I think with the people who do not know what they are discussing, it is often a result of ego. They cannot accept that they need to shut up, and listen to the people who have done the work and walked the walk. There is so much garbage and noise on the internet by people pretending they know shit. I rarely read anything not posted by an Edorsed Contributor now, and I might find it preferable if they were the only ones that could post.

[–]maplemaximus18 points19 points  (9 children) | Copy

I love how TRP defenders are silenced and are told not to defend or explain what TRP actually is. Women's strategy is to separate the beta's from the Alpha's with this culture wide shit test that was actually instigated by the CIA as a means to destroy society.

Just...wow. And I love how TRP is classified as white guy's angry at the world. It's not just white men here, but men of all races trying to figure out what went wrong and why "Treat her like a Queen" absolutely crashed and burned.

[–]thefisherman196114 points15 points  (8 children) | Copy

what does the CIA have to do with it?

[–]ThrowFader6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

deleted What is this?

[–]Patriarchysaurus1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

I believe he is referring to the Soviet plan for the undermining of Capitalist (specifically American) society.

You know: destroy the family unit by injecting Marxist class warfare into sexual dynamics (e.g. women are the stand-in proletariat fighting for equal wages with the supposedly bourgeois men). Gender Studies is Socialism of the Sexes, and its just as full of corrupt bureaucrats carefully toeing the party line.

[–]thefisherman19611 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

again, what does that have to do with the CIA?

[–]destraht0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

  • "Modern Art"
  • MKUltra
  • Evil Nazi scientists absorbed through Operation Paperclip
  • Operation Northwoods (probably more like DOD)
  • Anything coming from a Jewish social scientist

[–]Endorsed ContributorJamesSkepp0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

"Modern Art"

Only in small part. Another thing is, the well known stereotype of "modern art" (picture a canvas with random dots and vagina on it) is still not what most people create and enjoy. It's a well know stereotype only b/c it's often highly controversial.

MKUltra

The impact of this program is overrated. The real reason why people are doing so much drugs is not b/c of CIA introducing them, but simply b/c people like doing drugs. As for the more mind-controlling types, I always assumed that if they did come up with something that works, it's still kept a secret or replaced by something better by now.

Evil Nazi scientists absorbed through Operation Paperclip

Yes, and what does them being Nazis have to do with science they did for USA? Also, drop the moralizing - the dark truth is, these Mengele types did advance the science a lot in certain cases. It would be foolish to reject it on moral grounds. The damage is done, we might as well use it.

Operation Northwoods (probably more like DOD)

Rejected at the memo. If you want to go with "Bush did 9/11" a better example would be something that actually did happen - Gladio.

Anything coming from a Jewish social scientist

If it's science and it's real - it would be stupid to reject in on the basis of "all Jewish social scientists are like that". Goebbels for example took modern propaganda/marketing to a new level. Just b/c he helped to run WW2, doesn't mean that he didn't have a knack for writing great speeches. IOW divorce the tool from what it's used for.

[–]NarcKammerjaeger8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

I Dont usually do it but here it goes.

Answer to the question from a woman in her 30 I suppose.:

NO this isn't how most men feel- this is how insecure/misogynistic men feel and I would strongly caution against dating someone that is into Red Pill "philosophy".

Same person thread: is it OK to fling Chad when I'm already dating betabob?

Pretty self explanatory but I've been on 4 dates with someone and it's going really well, but an interesting man messaged me on OKC and I'm planning on seeing him this weekend. It's making me feel guilty though because there's a real chance of things continuing to ramp up with the first guy, and the new guy seems really excited about me. Is it assholish behavior to start dating someone new in this scenario? I'd honestly probably annoyed if I was new guy and I found out.

Comment section says she should go for it. gyrl you rock!

If you tolerate cherry picking bitches you become one yourself!

[–]justshootinblanks11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

The message from the article: do not get caught reading red pill material by your gf, as they see it as threatening.

[–]BallsMahonie3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

I love how the poor bastard is being set up to be completely gunned down not for starting to incorporate TRP into his life but for happening to just come across it. Shame on him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcO9svaOahM

[–]jethreezy4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy

RedPillers are a disgruntled minority who don’t know how to adult

People who use nouns as verbs don't have the credentials to be criticizing the maturity of others.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

That's a big leftie thing these days. They even do it in article headlines at Salon, Huff Post, etc.

[–]riot21002 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

My goodness. Banning someone's RP opinion to promote "toleration". That's just plain hypocrisy.

[–]Augustuscrassus1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

There is one comment I read there that describes exactly why women hate this sub. "The men there are bitter guys who do not have an INTUITIVE sense of male/female interactions."

There it is. The men here are disgusting because they need to be taught. They just don't "get it." It isn't because of misogyny or sexism. It's because they want the beta men to go back into their awkward little box where they don't reproduce.

They don't want these men to live happy lives and actually have success with women. They want them to stay miserable so they have a fall back plan at 30.

Funny how all the advice given on this sub is also given on askmen to thunderous applause.

[–]Qwertyete0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

check her post history, she's active in redpillwomen

[–]Menchstick-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

I like how the word "mod" means moderator yet the mod that locked the thread left a biased and subjective comment.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

That's what they do any time it looks like logic or reason might take hold and go the wrong way.

It's the reason that most of the unmoderated forums tend to end up red pill in thinking. If you want to keep things blue, you gotta keep people from bringing reason to the argument.

[–]Leo_Back 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

I'm sorry but we have no idea what the dude is like maybe he is fat unemployed pothead. What happened to respect need to be gained ? Women most likely to be submissive to someone with high SMV while the white knighting is horrible , ppl who preach red pill not knowing who the dude is aren't any better

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

I think we're commenting on the community's response to the words red pill.

[–]Patriarchysaurus 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

By the way you type, I can't tell if you're 12 or Pakistani.



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