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Women are utterly incapable of loving a man in the way that a man expects to be loved. In the same respect.. women can’t actualize how a man would have himself loved.. the moment he attempts to explain his ideal love, that’s the point at which his idealization becomes her obligation.

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Title Women are utterly incapable of loving a man in the way that a man expects to be loved. In the same respect.. women can’t actualize how a man would have himself loved.. the moment he attempts to explain his ideal love, that’s the point at which his idealization becomes her obligation.
Author redpillschool
Upvotes 269
Comments 65
Date 09 January 2018 05:18 PM UTC (2 years ago)
Subreddit TheRedPill
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/226712
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[–]IonianIdol81 points82 points  (7 children) | Copy

Looks like someone hit the Red Pill sub reboot button

[–]1Your_Coke_Dealer61 points62 points  (6 children) | Copy

2nd sticky says it all. We needed this; it was feeling like someone dumped a bucket of the Incels sub on us lately

[–]Self-honest37 points38 points  (3 children) | Copy

Thank god. I was about to stop reading because of all of the garbage and unintelligible shit I've had to sort through lately. A lot of these newer guys have no clue what they are even talking about. Asktrp is now full of questions that are obvious if you understand the material.

[–]1Your_Coke_Dealer14 points15 points  (1 child) | Copy

AskTRP is a partially failed experiment that attempted to divert the newbies from here. It's partial success was in diverting some of the questions that should be answered by reading the sidebar. It failed in that we got a lot of people who either learned a little RP knowledge without truly understanding the concepts and began to bastardize the teachings with their own interpretations in posts.

Even worse, a lot of people who really never took the red pill (the knowledge of the true nature of women) but got the little confidence they needed by finding a community of men here to have moderate success with women for a short while. Suddenly the sub is full of a ton of bluepill ideas and NAWALT when they tell their "success" stories, then later on a flood of MGTOWs when those same guys inevitably burn themselves with their bad strategies they somehow think are RP.

[–]Self-honest6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Accurate. I just hate hearing these guys who think they are right because they have learned it from "taking the pill," when in actuality they have things 100% backwards due to misinterpretation and laziness.

I've recently been thinking that the metaphor of "taking the pill" causes more harm than good. Unplugging is a little better, but still can be used to inflate someone's ego. It seems like a lot of people use the metaphors to comfort themselves instead of learning the hard lessons by shoving "pills" down their throats, throwing up, eating the throw up, passing out, letting go, etc. like they need to.

Lifting hurts. Breaking your mind hurts. You aren't just swallowing a pill with a room temperature glass of water if you are heavily blue pilled to begin with. You need to embrace that pain and change.

[–]FirstNamesMusic34 points35 points  (50 children) | Copy

Even after reading numerous posts like this, you can find new things.

Question for red pillers:

Has anyone actually tried to tell a LTR or just a girl in a relastionahip with you, the truth of love? As in love is basically a contract?

I know it would most likely go horribly (honestly just depending on her view of you at that moment) but I would like to read a field report on that.

[–][deleted] 29 points30 points  (1 child) | Copy

I dont know about the truth of love but I remember there was one legend who broke up with his girlfriend by saying "I do not want to date you anymore due to your hypergamous nature" or something along those lines

[–]FirstNamesMusic8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

Honestly it would be a good test to measure how much a girl respects/is in to you.

The results of this conversation would end with no long term change no doubt. Though a man could study how the girl responds to such a seemingly "controversial statement" if she accepts then she, at that moment, is extremely in to you.

Although there are easier ways to do this.

[–][deleted] 24 points25 points  (8 children) | Copy

actually tried to tell a LTR

LOL yeah, I'm a grappler so I don't pick fights with strikers, if you catch my drift.

At any rate, the nature of attraction is far more interesting.

I'm 45, been working out hard for a year, and holy smokes what I get away with these days.....women want Providers, no doubt about that, but the love getting railed out by a stud.

[–][deleted] 34 points35 points  (7 children) | Copy

In response to your last sentence...

I have a plate that told me she's seeing another guy (I don't care, the first thing I told her was that things wouldn't be exclusive). She proceeds to tell me how insert all nice provider guy attributes this guy is and how he wants to date her. She thinks I would make a terrible boyfriend. Then tells me she won't date him because she doesn't want to stop fucking me and proceeds to describe how alpha I am and how she can't believe how great I am. This was surprising to me but I guess I have kept my internal conflicts internal and held good frame. If I wanted to be exclusive with her, she would in a heartbeat.

Bitches man. The shit that came out of her mouth blew me away, because I'm only a few months into the red pill. She was so matter of fact about it all, meanwhile my jaw was mentally on the ground. Months ago I would have been that guy on the other side of the fence, no fucking clue that the girl I'm pouring my heart into has me on the back burner.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (4 children) | Copy

She's 24 to 26, 27 at most? She would date him otherwise, and drop your ass eventually, which is fine if you have other plates....Blackdragons horrible acronym "LSNFTE" is required knowledge.

Good on you, man, you've learned in a way that is impossible behind a screen and held frame. Non trivial stuff. But it's fascinating how women are once you present the right frame to them.

Shit, I had a 19 y/o Jewish American Princess virgin tell me that alimony is appropriate if a man burns a woman 20's and then leaves, because those are her most valuable years.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (3 children) | Copy

Are people on this sub really surprised women like providers AND like getting fucked by studs? Wtf

I’ve never had a ton of trouble with women. Goodish looking, upper middle class job. What did you think the way women were before you found this dumb subreddit.

Wow what a mindblower women like to fuck and like getting taken care of. Woah dude.

I tell you another mindblower I’m a dude and like hot chicks that suck good dick and I like smart women with good jobs and prospects. Whaaat.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

How about hot smart women with good prospects who suck good dick? Yeah, had one of those. Visiting her in 2 days, we're going backpacking on the coast with some of her friends.

In other words....I hooked up with a 19 y/o when I was 39, we had a 4.5 year run, we broke up with a lot of love because hey, she wants a family and that ship has sailed for me, but we're such great friends she visited me last summer to enjoy the path of totality, and we're visiting again soon....because....

She's a PhD candidate at a high end school in a hard STEM program and is dating very well. Clearly I've snowed her.

before you found this dumb subreddit.

I had a smokeshow half my age on my arm for over 4 years and we remain great friends.

Because I'm clearly misogynist.

Keep spewing hate. Enjoy.

[–]Redpilledaccordingly0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

You’d be surprised what years of Disney can do. It should be common knowledge that women are hypergamous, and it is. All guys instinctively know how women are, but when it’s beat into your head that their princesses. You become indoctrinated.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

But why would you want some useless “princess”

[–]Alexinfinite010 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It must be terribly confusing for them to have a dual sexual strategy at odds with itself. Of course at her age she should know well enough by now...

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours20 points21 points  (7 children) | Copy

I tell them they'll never hear me utter the phrase "I love you" and will never ever marry her. I never will love her either. I have come to accept the fact that it is not returned, and in fact only needs contempt for us from girls. I like them, appreciate and enjoy them, plus I find them fascinating, but I love my cars and dogs, not girls.

When I actually let a girl have a relationship it goes for years, and they always end the same way. With her thinking she can do better and jumping to a lower branch which spirals her life into the abyss.. every fucking time. meanwhile, I find another hole to fuck the same night and go on about my life. Fucking girls half my age is lots of fun, girls my age can afford to travel with me, which is also fun.

This works and I'm happier with this way of life than I ever was before.

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (5 children) | Copy

You aren't wrong, and should do you, but let me present a counterpoint.

I love women and I know now when they know I love them it can kill attraction. Still, there is a big difference between a man loving a bitch for what and who she is and a sappy low t boy who loves women like his mommy. Or loving her as a goddess.

TRP doesn't mean you can't or shouldn't love women. It means they should be loved for what they actually are rather than some projected ideals that aren't even yours to begin with.

[–]sd4c-4 points-3 points  (4 children) | Copy

You can't love women, who aren't related to you. They're unlovable. Females make horrible friends and demonic romance partners. No matter who you pick, or what you do, they will always cheat, leave you, or abuse you.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (2 children) | Copy

A woman cant cheat on me, I know her nature and dont trust her, Im not stupid. She cant leave me, she was never mine and I dont expect a lifetime of loyalty from a woman. She cant abuse me because Im better than her because Im a man and can replace her if I want.

Did you wander in here from Incels or TBP?

[–]sd4c0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

No. But anything a man might be into, men are way better at and more knowledgeable at, in general.

[–]PEDRO_de_PACAS_2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Actually chicks make great friends. Pretty sure that's a TRP tip to be able to socialize with them easily

Edit: My advice, make friends with a hot chick. I don't mean friendzone yourself, but find a young babe that you can hit the clubs or whatever scene location. Hot chicks love to hand out with other hot chicks - next thing yiu know, you're surrounded by them, and you may even find yiurself used by some of them just so they can enter the circle. It's social proof.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

jumping to a lower branch which spirals her life into the abyss.. every fucking time

Have had that one go both ways....definitely better when they actually do well....

I'm happier with this way of life than I ever was before.

Yep, same here. I even agree that girls our age have some merit. I think you're one of the naturals around here and never had to Kill the BetaTM which makes women our age far, far safer.

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (6 children) | Copy

I highly recommend not telling women the truth about love, life, or anything deep. Women want to feel deeply. Not think deeply. They want to believe in stories, especially when they are the starlet. They love men who play along in their fantasias and entertain them. They despise logic and reason and it dries their pussies like the Sahara

[–]Endorsed ContributorRunawayGrain5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

I highly recommend not telling women the truth about love, life, or anything deep. Women want to feel deeply. Not think deeply.

And that's pretty much the essence of success with women. I once had a marketing guy who stated that we didn't sell customers a product, we sold them a dream about what our product could do for their lives. Women don't love you, they love the fairy-tale they build around you.

[–]Endorsed ContributorTaipanshimshon0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

dries their puzzles like the Sahara

Freudian slip or intentional? either way Im laughing

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Sorted. Meant pussies but puzzles works too

[–]brockliz 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

Unfortunately you do not understand woman at all then . You can say this for some of course, but I’d argue most are the polar opposite of the above statement.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

women are men with no dicks right? or are women the ones with balls and shaft..i get so confused

[–]CalculatingWolf9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

I told my aunt once. She started talking about how Europeans have this beautiful romantic love. I slammed her with the truth about love. How this romance nonsense is new and makes men into dogs and slaves. How love is just a tool for women to get what they want. That relationships 200 years ago were economical and all about security. She did not like that shit whatsoever but had literally no reply to it. My cousin wd sitting there and he agreed full heartedly. Ain't no romantic love. Just puss, money and social status and kids blablabla

[–]JackieBronassis6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

My current relationship is based upon this principle. We both understand that that the contract can be nullified by either party, at any time, for zero reason at all.

I first told her this, and she replied, “Duh.”

[–]brockliz0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Romantic love was invented to manipulate women too. Look at marketing campaigns - they usually go after women with the romance shit, not men :) they feed us this lie with fairy tales at a very young age, creating almost a damn near obsession of what we need to Find . And just like those fairy tales, it isn’t real. We end up falling in love with the idea of love instead of the concrete person itself. (I would rather die than lose you, i can’t live without you, i am lovesick, etc etc ) what is the positive of all of this though ? While romantic love is just a construct created to manipulate the masses - there are other types of love . Human love . Agape. Etc . I believe there are 7-9 (?) types of love outlined by Dietrich von Hildebrand which when you have all, you have almost like a “complete” love. When all of this love overlaps on to one another, we form almost a complete love, one that is here (positively) to help the world evolve, inspire, reach goals, etc . I read this article a bit ago & it reminds me of what is being spoken about here : https://www.firstthings.com/web-exclusives/2011/02/the-myth-of-romantic-love

[–]dank4tao 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

Lol, I just did with my last LTR as I slipped from SWABTO to Oneitis. It broke the spell of attraction, and she made her exit plan quietly and neatly. I'm heading to class but I'll try to do a write up of that failure and many others as I went from juggling two plates to LTRing one of them.

Don't LTR a plate, and don't ever commit to telling her the honest truth. It will backfire.

[–]sd4c1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Please do. We need that story

[–]dank4tao2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I will write up a postmortem this weekend.

[–]FirstNamesMusic0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Yes please do a write up. That was be a very interesting read

[–]dank4tao 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

Yeah, I'm going to have to strip this account of any personally identifying information first. I've been a lurker for about 3 years here, and it'll be my first contribution but hopefully the data will be worth it to some of you. Expect a follow-up on Sunday if the post ban gets lifted.

[–]Fulp_Piction0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It's a stupid idea. You can do it if you sugar coat it, but if you start talking about this shit like you discovered antibiotics she's gonna treat you like a social retard. Girls know this shit, guys who know girls know this shit. TRP mostly isn't really new info, but it's collected together so it's powerful.

[–]DamnDatAssSoFine -1 points-1 points [recovered] | Copy

I’m a bit confused. When I tell women, whom I actually love, what loving them means to me, it’s usually a burning sensation in my chest and face, and sometimes, but rarely, my torso. It’s true, and it usually renders them speechless.

When you say love is a contract, would you mind further clarifying your statement for me?

[–]FirstNamesMusic3 points4 points  (10 children) | Copy

[–]DamnDatAssSoFine 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

I did, and I’m still a bit confused.

It assumes that all men want to believe that they are loved and appreciated. By this definition, being loved = having your ego jerked off, constantly.

That’s significantly different from my perception of love and being loved.

Is that what’s it’s saying, or am I missing something here?

[–]FirstNamesMusic11 points12 points  (8 children) | Copy

You are correct.

But you still misunderstand what love is. That feeling in your face is actually your testosterone wanting to reproduce with the girl whom you are "in love" with.

And those feelings are the feelings that society takes advantage of to turn you into a servant of a woman, once this happens a terrible cycle begins.

Once you give into "love" and start acting on this feeling the wrong way (how society tells men to act on it, by "listening more", "being there for her", being "romantic", she will stop being attracted to you. Thus in your subconscious you say to yourself, " I'm going to try harder and she will surely love me!"

This creates even more of distaste for you in her psyche. And this cycle continues and spirals out of control until she has you basically a slave, validating her constantly, and she does nothing for you in return.

I say all this, to let you know, love isn't real.love really is just an urge to fuck a girl. Love is a lie society has used to get time and money from you, and how women control men.

A relationship really is just two people who are together for mutual benefit. When that benefit stops, someone leaves. Period.

This is the raw truth. It's tough to read, but knowing it makes you strong. It will allow you to move forward in your life and become a badass that nothing can sway.

[–]DamnDatAssSoFine 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

Thank you for your response.

For what it’s worth, I’d like to mention that what you’re telling isn’t quite matching my reality.

The feeling I told you about persists even after the 2nd time I’ve fucked them in a row. Sometimes it’s there, and when it’s not, it could be a sign to move on to a different girl.

When does it persist? When the girl and I go beyond just sex, and can actually hold a conversation, and enjoy our presence together. When both sides know how to flirt.

When doesn’t it? When the girl tries to overcompensate by being distastefully crocketish. Or when she shit tests me beyond reasonable limits.

Do you see what I’m saying?

[–]FirstNamesMusic7 points8 points  (5 children) | Copy

Yea that feeling doesn't go away.

It's different for men. Men are actually the "romantic" gender, because you will feel that way for a long time and be super loyal to a girl thast you feel that way for.

You should know she does not feel that way, and never will about you in the same way. Men and women are very different. In that same vein, our genetic ideas of love are completely different.

She will never feel that sacrificial tingle where she wants to give you comfort at severe expense of herself. It is not in her nature, but it is in her nature to take advantage of your feelings like that.

She doesn't do it on purpose, or maliciously, in fact she probably isn't even aware of it. But the moment you become truly vulnerable and show weakness. I.e. giving into your urge to be vulnerable and let your guard down, her DNA and natural instincts will immediately make her less attracted to you.

This is why love is a contract, a man must consistently provide value to the women, the moment you stop providing excellent value, she will stop providing her end (passionate sex). Though value in a relationship is not what culture tells you is value. Culture will tell you, your job is to "love" woman above yourself and to put her on a pedestal. This is not value, in fact it's the opposite.

If you are a strong enough man (value), literally any woman will enjoy your company. Women enjoy the company of any man of whom their biology says they are worthy of mating.

This is not the basis of a good relationship and shouldn't never even be a factor of staying in a relationship.

[–]DamnDatAssSoFine 0 points0 points [recovered] | Copy

When you say “take advantage of,” what do you mean?

For example, and as a surface example, I buy them gifts, and they reciprocate. Sometimes I buy them food, and sometime they, me. Both sides at least offer to pay.

They respect my other activities (lifting, studying, etc.) and I respect theirs. If not, i tend to not spend time with them.

As a side note, you talked about vulnerability. I become vulnerable when it gives me pleasure, and the women I’ve been with have only gotten closer to me. So, I’m not entirely sure if I’m getting you here.

[–]FirstNamesMusic1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

The moment you show weakness, women (as a survival technique) are programmed to sense this and exploit it for comfort/provision and give less attraction to the man.

This is why there are so many sexless marriages and we have the term "beta provider"

A woman does not want to have passionate sex with a beta provider, she simply is there for comfort/provisions of some sort.

You can do things for people without appearing weak or vulnerable, but as an example:

If you buy her too many gifts all the time, her biology will tell her you are doing so because you HAVE to. She comes to the conclusion subconsciously that you are providing more material value because you MUST lack value in some other area in life.

[–]DamnDatAssSoFine 0 points0 points [recovered] | Copy

Well, I’m gonna share this with you, for what it’s worth.

If “I must never show weakness and vulnerability” is what goes in your head, actually and unironically, when you’re with a girl, you’re not gonna have fun, or feel satisfied, REGARDLESS of how the girl responds (leaving you, cheating on you, or actually liking you more, etc).

[–]blackenship10 points11 points  (4 children) | Copy

As a rp man are we ever supposed to love a woman? Maintain frame but in the later years find a woman to die near?

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 17 points18 points  (0 children) | Copy

Sure. I love my puppy too. Doesn't mean I will look to her as a mother.

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (0 children) | Copy

are we ever supposed to love a woman?

An honest question, I guess....strange on a day of purges, but fair enough.

The saying is that men love women, women love children, and children love puppies. I think that there's something to this. Sure, love women, but pay close attention to the front page today.....there a piece up right now that discusses how we will not be loved the way we think we should be loved.

And that's fine. That's the Red Pill. It's reality. Humans are not wired for monogamy. Women are independent agents with their own set of incentives.

Which is why the advice is to lift like your life depends on it. Be the bull, not the cuck.

[–]red-arctic-tern10 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy

I love you really means I need you. A girl needs a man for emotional support, feeling of security and social proof. A RP man never needs a woman.

[–]tteabag25914 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Until some babies come into the picture...your comment is so short-sighted. This is why I believe that the primary motivator for committed relationships is children. They don't seem to have any meaningful context outside of that. Men and women don't feel how much they NEED each other until then because neither are vulnerable enough. Children show you real quick how much women are needed.

[–]IlluminatedElf16 points17 points  (1 child) | Copy

Most women find themselves thrust into a world where there's an abundance of attention from the time they look like they've hit puberty. I was in a girls' school and I've seen girls chase it like a high.

Imagine being a 14 year old and having someone three times your age, ten times more accomplished, and just more in every facet of value... give you the power of completely destroying their life for the sake of something that said a barely pubescent girl hasn't quite come to appreciate/understand/enjoy.

That's what being a woman is like in the BP world.

I come from a family with traditional values. No one divorced unless there was a serious threat to their lives. Love was synonymous to loyalty, not affection or lust.

These days, divorces happen because you assume that a person assumes that they can do better. Love, in the modern era, for both men and women, ends when they know something better lies within arm's reach. It is better.

I have accepted the fact that I cannot have my parents' marriage; I am happy with this. This was my parents' marriage; my mother is loyal to my father to this day, even after he has passed on for years. She still keeps in touch with his siblings and in-laws. When he was alive, their relationship is akin to the relationship of two people tossed in a desolate island; it was isolated, a lot of hard work, and pain.

For anyone that talks about security/comfort in relationships; imagine having affection for your security blanket and then needing to use it to extinguish a fire. Most people in this circumstance would rather burn (if they could) than watch their security blanket suffer from the events. It is a lose-lose situation that has been romanticised by many writers and artists to encourage people to reproduce.

As a child from a family with no divorces, I never understood why anyone wanted a forever relationship when they could have a relationship of convenience. It's like saying you want to have cancer so that you can have a renewed perspective on life instead of just traveling to a new country every few years.

[–]2Dmva1007 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

Even if a woman were capable of loving a man the way he expects to be loved; unconditionally and free of hypergamous requirements, that love would soon be compromised upon the introduction of offspring, as such love is ultimately reserved by a woman for them, which would then create competition, albeit not so much sexual, but 'romantic' and 'genuine' desire.

[–]AudioAssassyn4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

It's been the same over at MGTOW lately. I hate they nuked incels - at least they had their own shithole cespool to sit around in an angry little circle jerk. Now they're all over the good subs where we were looking at things objectively, trying to better ourselves. For a week or two at MGTOW after the incels got nuked it was just "ha look at this chick tripping into a puddle, what an idiot!"

[–]alucardarian6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

Something interesting I found when diving into my Chinese heritage and culture is the concept of 孝(xiao), which translates roughly to filial piety. Basically it's a virtue of respect for parents and ancestors. From my understanding parents are to be regarded as the be all end all for their children. Since they gave life and provided everything to the child, she or he must always revere and honor the parents. This extends to old age. So in effect, it becomes a sort of social security wherein the children become the safety net for old men and women who cannot work no longer. Everyone in China buys into this system because they can enjoy the benefits once they get old. And it's not just sticking their parents in a nursing home... they bring their old parents along to live with the wife and kids under one roof. "Love" in traditional Chinese thinking is not an emotion... it is duty and providing. As a whole, there is immense societal pressure to practice filial piety and those who don't are looked down upon and excluded from social functions. Now I was born to immigrant parents and grew up in the American society so my experience of this virtue is limited to the way my parents raised me so I cannot speak to the minute details of how it works in a greater society. However this filial piety might be what we're missing here in the West. The general consensus in TRP is to never marry because the risks far outweigh the benefits (of which there are almost none). As more and more men turn to MGTOW, TRP, or just check out of life in general, society as we know it will grind to a halt and the West will get conquered by stronger society. But if we incorporated elements of filial piety back in our society, there would be much more incentive to get married and have children which is essential in having a strong society.

[–]yomo86[🍰] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Very very true what Dal writes. Enjoy what humans can offer. Enjoy female companionship but don't be pissed when she behaves like a female.

On the other hand - for all those anger-phasers, can you truly feel and experience what it is like for a somewhat intelligent woman knowing that you have a 10, maybe 15 year, time frame at best, for finding a mate (in a pussyfied society I might add), who is to satisfy not only your biological imperative but also the emotional need in the present and future, you have, and the only factor determining your success is mostly if not solely pecked to your physical appearance?

[–]reddttt2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

I think every man worth his salt needs to have his heart broken to learn this lesson. It's impressive how in today's world, most men going through the ordeal of having That One Hoe™ don't learn anything at all.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I think every man worth his salt needs to have his heart broken to learn this lesson.

I would agree. You won't be able to navigate a full relationship until you understand how one falls apart and what behaviors are naturally expected.

[–]sd4c0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Definitely more into the worshipping type. Problem is, so far it’s just been love-bombing (an insincere overwhelming deluge of affection from a covert narcissist)

[–]Self-honest0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

For me, understanding this starts with accepting the differences between women and men. As a man, I work on projects with a mindset of sacrificing my time, energy, and effort to see things through to a desirable end. How negatively I may feel about it at a certain point in time will not dissuade me. I consider my prior investment to be more important than any bump in the road and stay focused on the goal. Knowing my MO, I won't approach a sexual relationship in such a fashion as I can't expect a woman to see things the same way. It's just not going to happen so I won't over invest ever again.

[–]rh0cwr51w9 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

I think it makes sense to turn the focus of this one back onto yourself. Like, you could frame it as women being inherently incapable of love. Or you could frame it like you expecting something both unrealistic and not actually that good.

It's like thinking candy is the best food because it tastes the best. You probably wouldn't even want that kind of love if you had it. If they loved you like that, you'd probably start treating her like she treats beta males, and she'd be doing chores while you're off getting your dick sucked by someone who isn't so obsessed with you

[–]sd4c0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Bull. I encourage all obsession with me from a woman

[–]desno-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

I chose a good day to poke my head in here. Just the affirmations to keep me going.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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