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USA Today: Feminist's political push to broaden the definition of rape has had unforeseen consequences...Women are now "rapists" too.

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Title USA Today: Feminist's political push to broaden the definition of rape has had unforeseen consequences...Women are now "rapists" too.
Author TRPsubmitter
Upvotes 663
Comments 168
Date 23 September 2014 01:15 PM UTC (6 years ago)
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Link https://theredarchive.com/post/227979
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[–][deleted] 238 points239 points  (65 children) | Copy

Welcome to the land of equality, ladies. If you want to constantly redefine the world to meet your narcissistic ideals, expect it to bite you in the ass eventually.

[–]TRP VanguardtrpSenator93 points94 points  (46 children) | Copy

I find it so ironic. With all the SJW gaslighting, intellectual dishonesty, selfishness, and manipulation, they are walking talking extreme cases of what TRP teaches about women. Like, feminists are a case book example of crazy female mind that TRP teaches, even more than the average woman. I just can't shake how ironic that the group that is fighting for equality is the biggest non-equal hamsters around. They are the most solipsistic, selfish, dumb, ignorant, and sexist group of women around.

Am I the only one that finds this just ridiculously ironic?

[–]Endorsed Contributorgekkozorz48 points49 points  (45 children) | Copy

Virtually everything SJW's say is just pure, unfiltered powertalk. Take for example the classic "victim blaming" logic - "we shouldn't be teaching women to be safe, we should be teaching men not to rape women."

Obviously this logic falls apart with even the slightest bit of rational examination. First of all, those two options are not mutually exclusive. Second, the idea that we can end crime by sheer education is retarded.

They either know their logic sucks, or they just don't care. But that's not the point. The point is use their harsh words to bully and shame men to get them more under the Feminine Imperative's thumb by creating a narrative where men are the villains and women are their victims who need to be catered to at all costs.

[–]Position5hero27 points28 points  (43 children) | Copy

Second, the idea that we can end crime by sheer education is retarded.

This. No one EVER walked into a bank with an AR-15 and a haloween mask thinking it was a legal activity

[–][deleted] 27 points28 points  (42 children) | Copy

What if I was drunk? Would it be legal then? I mean since I (now) can't be held accountable for sexual actions I take while intoxicated, I should get a pass on everything else I do drunk as well.

[–]TRP VanguardtrpSenator14 points15 points  (5 children) | Copy

My dad told me of a DUI he got when he was younger. The first night, the cop told him to throw his keys into the orchard and walk home and come back whenever he's sober enough to find him. A month later the cop finds him driving drunk again, but this time in his drive way passed out with the motor running. This time, however, the cop wasn't so pleased because he already gave him a warning and was clearly piss drunk this time and was obviously driving.

When he went to court to plead guilty or not guilty he argued that he can't possibly plead because he can't remember if he was driving or not. For all he knew, he was framed, so it's impossible to plead. So the judge dismissed the case. Times were different back then.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (4 children) | Copy

Times were different back then.

No shit. That's kinda awesome, except for the DUI part.

[–]kratol 2 points2 points [recovered] | Copy

Honestly, how could you prove a person who is passed out wasn't put there by someone else? A knocked out person can be put into a car and that same person can start the car with the keys in his pocket.

That argument would only apply for this edge case of a parked vehicle.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Keep in mind, shit doesn't have to be proven to a fact, it has to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt.

For an extremely poor example, in the above case, if I was the prosecutor, I could call the cop as a witness to this guy previous drinking and driving. So now we have an extremely likely pattern of behavior. It's not unreasonable to think trpSenator's father has an addiction to alcohol. I call trpSenator's father to the stand and ask him a series of questions that are qualifiers to diagnose alcoholism.

If trpSenator's father answers honestly, he'll qualify as an alcoholic (believe it or not, most people can be classified as alcoholics though not necessarily as a physical dependent on alcohol). If he lies, accuse him of being alcoholic addict anyways, destroy his character and bam. Case is done.

Plus most DUI laws are worded so that if you're in the driver's seat with the keys even accessible to you, you're guilty of DUI/DWI. Extenuating circumstances may not even be a factor depending on the jury.

Disclosure: I am not a lawyer, I just have a cop family, used to work with cops, and get suicide-inducing amounts of alcoholism/DUI awareness training from the military. Take everything with a healthy grain of salt.

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[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

That won't fly. I promise you.

Source: My dad arrested a guy who used the same argument. He was convicted outright, no plea deal.

[–]BasementMisogynist1 point2 points  (7 children) | Copy

Excuse me ma'am please leave this this subreddit immediately and take your crappy femlogic with you

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy

I can't tell if you're being deadpan satirical (if so, bravo) or if you're being serious...

Poe's Law and all that.

[–]BasementMisogynist1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy

I am a deadpan satirist. I get some good chuckles irl, but online often as not I'm misunderstood. And I don't blame the medium, I blame the mass availability and herd behavior. Lots of idiots read my comments online who I wouldn't waste my breath on in real life, they therefore herd rush what I say making others go "oh so yeah he was probably serious and an asshole, pitchforks up everybody!"

I think partly the blame is that people who would read what I have to say also don't know my persona, so don't know my style and also are used to talking with wacky idiots who I like I said I don't feel belong.

tl;dr it's not that satire doesn't work online, it's that people don't know you well enough or have stumbled into a place not for them

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

I'm glad I gave the benefit of the doubt now, and well done you cheeky cunt.

Keep at it.

EDIT: Enjoy your new tag as "Cheeky Cunt".

[–]BasementMisogynist0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

The username should've announced that already ( ^◡^)

[–]Position5hero1 point2 points  (25 children) | Copy

I'm not arguing that if a girl is drunk she can't consent that's dumb as fuck

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (20 children) | Copy

You missed my point/joke bro.

I was pointing out the irony that this study shows men can be raped under the influence of alcohol by women. By extension, I should be able to do what multitudes of what shitty women/feminists do and excuse my poor behaviour by blaming it on booze. You know, like a male version of a pussy pass.

Goddammit. Now the joke is ruined. Maybe it was a bad joke. I'm gonna go grab more scotch.

Also, if the joke was bad, it's not my fault. It's the scotch.

[–]Position5hero7 points8 points  (19 children) | Copy

If it makes you feel any better I am at work in my office with the blinds closed sipping Patron and shitposting on TRP because all my shit is done for the day.

Feels good to get paid to shitpost I really made it bro.

So what are you drinking my man

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (18 children) | Copy

Lmao. Awesome. Good for you bro.

Macallan 18. Good stuff right here.

[–]Position5hero-3 points-2 points  (17 children) | Copy

bravo bravo good taste my man.

Yeah dude. The trick is to work your ass off until you get put 'in charge' at which point you sort of chill out and reap the rewards.

The trick is to tell employyes they can leave anytime they want and just fire anyone that leaves too early every night.

After 1 or 2 people get cut the rest will learn that they can't leave anytime they want, and at this point they are scared- they'll stay there and work after you leave.

Sometimes I leave, go get a taco, come back and see who's still there and who left 1 minute after me.

That's how I know who gets raises.

They don't teach you any of this is business school lol.

Just remember, if you do little work, and your branch/employyes/project/whatever does SUPERB cause they're working their asses off- you get 100% of the credit. You're a good boss.

[–]fullhalf0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

what if the the guy is equally drunk and the two have sex? we all know in the court today, the man would be strung up while the woman is considered a victim.

[–]Position5hero-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy

I'm not talking about legality, just morality

It's illegal for me to make a fire pit in my backyard and cook marshmellows with my daughter so yeah fuck the law as an indicator of morality

[–]fullhalf0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

actually misread what you said. we are in agreement. there were so many comments in between.

[–]Position5hero2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

yeah I figured you did which is why I clarified my position

all good man

[–]fullhalf1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

the idea that we can end crime by sheer education is retarded

this is what i always say when i argue with them about it. i say "can we teach people to not rob and murder?" it's perfectly fine to give people tips on how to not get robbed but oh no, if anyone suggests ways to not get raped, slut walk tiem!!!!!!!!

[–][deleted] 65 points66 points  (14 children) | Copy

Men can't be raped, don't you know it moron?! Misogynist! Patriarchy!


[–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan43 points44 points  (11 children) | Copy

Now lets stop calling it 'made to penetrate' and start labelling it as rape like it should be in the first place.

[–]TRP VanguardtrpSenator17 points18 points  (9 children) | Copy

They still don't care. They'll still find a way to blame it on patriarchy this still making a mans fault, thereby making rape on men not something they care about because we just brought it on ourselves. Seriously that's how they think. They don't give two shits about male victims.

[–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (4 children) | Copy

"It's male patriarchy's fault that women want sex in the first place!!"

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[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

I honestly hope such arguments remain in the realm of satire, I've yet to come across a feminist this batshit lol

[–]Clauderoughly0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

That's almost exactly what is taught by political lesbianism. The black, ugly heart of feminism

[–]oldneckbeard1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

it'll be more like "see, feminism will help everyone!"

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Ironically, one of the extremely rare times that would be true. Every squirrel finds a nut once in a while.

[–]GreatWhite_Buffalo4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

I lol'd at this comment:

Women do sexually assault men, and their fellow men/the system they are raised within tell them they are supposed to like it. It is just like men raping women, it is about power, about being in control, and maybe some women feel like they need to take that control back, maybe control taken from them, but they are still in the wrong.

She saved some face with the last few words but still did her damndest to blame it on men.

[–]Sinborn1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

"see that hard-on? he was enjoying it!"

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[–]Clauderoughly12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy

The backlash is gaining steam, as evidenced in gamergate. The fire rises!

[–]anonlymouse9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

Not anymore. They're losing their hold on the media. As is evident by this article.

[–]Homard8090 points91 points  (28 children) | Copy

Thus, as Young points out, the CDC finds that men make up over a third of the victims of "sexual coercion," which can include such things as "lies or false promises, threats to end a relationship or spread negative gossip, or 'making repeated requests' for sex and expressing unhappiness at being turned down."

Boom. Right there.

Have turned down many Women for sex. How do you think it fared out?

Women can rip the guts right out of a male if they turn "the switch". I have had it personally done to me. Except I just laughed and ignored them.

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[–]LineOfCoke65 points66 points  (0 children) | Copy

Seriously if I have sex with you while you had makeup on and looked hot and I wake up next to you in the morning and you look busted, you raped the fuck out of me.

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[–]fullhalf5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

there should be friendzone rape then. leading a guy along and making him feel like he has a chance and never outright rebuffing his overtures meanwhile using him for favors and gifts. even going so far as to start dating a guy but not telling him so that she can keep using him because she knows he'll stop if he knows she has a boyfriend now.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRed_August0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Absolutely, she's raping you of your time, making you a time ho.

[–]through_a_ways4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

It would have to be quite the lie.

Maybe in the U.S., but not in Israel. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_by_deception#Israel

Guy doesn't tell woman about being Arab, has sex, she later finds out he's Arab, now he's a rapist.

[–]fullhalf1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

it's not rape but that's what feminists are doing with the expansion of the definition of rape. they're turning every little shit possible into rape and thereby screwing themselves over.

[–]through_a_ways-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

How is lying to a girl rape?

Google "Israel rape by deception"

[–]throwingwater79 points80 points  (16 children) | Copy

I remember a episode in Louie where Louie refused to give a woman oral after she gave him oral. Saying that she made the decision to blow him, it doesn't mean he has to. Of course she proceeded to beat the crap out of him and force him to give her oral. They also agreed to go out again.

No one really batted an eye. But that was the protagonist of a show being raped and then agreeing to go out again with their rapist.

[–]Froggie9212 points13 points  (1 child) | Copy

[–]mitch_1457 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

There was also an episode of Flight of the conchords, where one of the men is forced to have sex and belittled by the woman in front of her friends. At the time I thought it was just a gender reversal joke, but it is just satire of rape no matter the gender

[–]myschadenfreude3 points4 points  (5 children) | Copy

Jesus. Really? I bet it was potrayed as a joke, wasn't it? Sickening.

[–]Iupvoteforknowledge45 points46 points  (2 children) | Copy

Well it is Louis CK, a comedian. He hides a lot of deep, thought provoking stuff under the guise of comedy.

[–]myschadenfreude27 points28 points  (1 child) | Copy

Yes, satire is the only available way to discuss some topics sadly.

[–]garlicextract-5 points-4 points  (1 child) | Copy

It's Louis CK dumbass, of course it was portrayed as a joke.

[–]fullhalf0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

in one of the teen comedies in the late 90s or early 2000s had this guy get tied down by some librarian who turned out to be a dominatrix. oh it was so funny to see him tied down and her whipping him and him crying and shit and it was suppose to be hilarious. how horrible would that scene look if it was a girl being tied down?

[–]Buchloe0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah. That scene was incredible. Totally realistic.

[–]Nathan_Flomm0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Didn't she bash his head into the car window to get head?

[–]LineOfCoke-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

The rape scene in Super! Was unbelievable how they just let that go and people try to defend it as something other than rape.

[–]1209020518202571 points72 points  (5 children) | Copy

Being on the front lines of combat wasnt fun enough, now women want to be in prison for rape too. Enjoy the bed you made Sue.

[–]fullhalf5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

lol but they don't actually want to be on the front lines though. they're just crying about it because they can't. that's all. 99% of the guys who ever saw combat wished that they didn't. most guys who join the armed forces today are just fuck ups who have no where else to go in their civilian life. then there are guys who live in a fantasy world thinking being a soldier is cool. they all get lied to out the ass by recruiters. sometimes i wish there was another draft and women had to go just to see the majority of them suddenly get pregnant or some shit. it annoys the fuck out of me to see them talk like they're equal to men. they would literally shit their god damn pants if they were in battle for real. they'd crawl into a ball and just cry.

[–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Feminists are dead silent on the draft. They know that women were protected from registering to get the same benefits because they couldn't go to the front lines. Now all that's left is pussy pass privilege, which they don't want taken away.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

No, they hamster and say 'I'm anti war, nobody should have to sign up for the draft' to wit they ignore the fact that men have been pressed into the military for all of history.

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[–]angry--napkin23 points24 points  (1 child) | Copy

I suppose I won't be hearing much about this report in the media or on my favorite NFL pregame show.

[–]fullhalf2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

they can't talk about that in the pregame show. defending women is like calling yourself a christian. it automatically gives you a high horse and you get to be a hero or a kind person. it's so easy to do, just talk about it and you get all kinds of praise and feel oh so good.

[–][deleted] 24 points25 points  (3 children) | Copy

Aw, man. I thought it would include the feminist idea of "stare rape".

I was pleasantly surprised by this article, though. Good stuff.

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[–]through_a_ways-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Trigger warning: The viewer may need to unload his or her clip into his or her computer screen.

[–]Iramohs11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'm pretty sure she just wants to eat her.

[–]Endorsed Contributorredpillbanana24 points25 points  (13 children) | Copy

The feminists are suffering from blowback.

Women are going to go to jail for rape and also paying significant alimony to men!

Critics tend to dismiss these as trivial, suggesting that the men involved should just "man up." But, of course, there's no reason to think that such coercion is any more trivial where men are concerned than where women are concerned, unless you believe that women are such fragile flowers that they cannot possibly withstand things that men are supposed to ignore.

It almost sounds like an MRA wrote this.

[–]ThanksRoissy11 points12 points  (10 children) | Copy

It's good to see stuff like this going mainstream. I doubt there will be any real penalty to these 'rapists' however. Actual female statutory rapists still get reduced sentences and favor in the court system- what's affectionately know here as the pussy pass.

Still, a step in the right direction.

[–][deleted] 26 points27 points  (6 children) | Copy

Its NOT a step in the right direction. Its another step in exactly the wrong direction. Women don't deserve to be locked up for bullshit "coercion" charges any more than men do.

Politicians need to stay the fuck out of our sex lives. Rape culture is a completely manufactured issue.

[–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

You'll never see change unless women are affected. This looks like a step in the wrong direction, but things usually get worse before they can get better.

[–]LineOfCoke7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

But they wont see the error in their ways unless they have to live with the consequences. Like liberals. Its all fun and games until the obscenely grotesquely obese government collapses inward on itself trying to give free everything to everyone. Once that happens people break out the bastiat and freedman quotes like lines at a Coke party.

[–]Endorsed Contributorgekkozorz9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

You know, all this rape hysteria has been a great example of the Horseshoe Effect. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horseshoe_theory

If I'd told you 5-10 years ago that a certain group was pushing to get sexual encounters to be so taboo that you can't engage in one unless both parties are enthusiastically nodding their heads and saying "I am super okay with this you have my permission to pleasure my genitals" throughout the entire thing, and if you don't you're breaking the law, you probably would have assumed that this group were a bunch of hyper-religious rightwing nutjobs.

You wouldn't have guessed that this was actually coming from far-left, progressive femtards.

[–]fullhalf0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

hey, the feminist agenda is too strong and nobody can stop it. they're the ones pushing it in that direction.

[–]anonlymouse0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It's a step in the right direction because this is the only way the laws will change.

[–]verdantmiles5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

[–]fullhalf1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

not reduced sentences, that's like a euphemism. they straight up get a slap on the fucking wrist. that's why there are so many cases of it now. it used to be kind of rare but so many of these cases have happened and almost none of them got jail time. so now there are a shit load of it. i see new cases all the time. i remember back when i was a kid, the mary kay latourneau case was huge and another one like it didn't happen for another 10 years. now there's like 20 cases a year at least. in the case of latourneau, they did love each other and they got married later too. yet, she had to go to jail. meanwhile, some of these women are caught fucking 5 kids or something and get a few months. what the fuck? even back then, latourneau only got 6 months with 3 suspended, so it's only 3 months of jail for fucking a 12 year old. any man that fucks a 12 year old girl would be in jail for a long fucking time and probably get beaten up in jail over it.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

The MRAs brought up this issue a long time ago, it's taken the MSM a while to catch up.

[–]caveboy773 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah I was surprised and lol'd at that last line.

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[–]LineOfCoke-5 points-4 points  (0 children) | Copy

They should have asked Ron Paul.

[–]LRW3421 points22 points  (2 children) | Copy

Women: We want to be recognized as equals!

Men: it may mean you lose the victim card and that data may show you're guilty of the same crimes as men

Women: give us a minute let us think this over

[–]2mbillion19 points20 points  (0 children) | Copy

I would not have taken USA Today for an organization with enough gusto to actually tell the truth, with that said, Of course they do. You cast a wider net and .... there you go, its much harder to get something off the books than it is to get it on the books

[–]level_e11even20 points21 points  (0 children) | Copy

Lol damn, didn't know USA today had the balls. Great article.

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[–]KublerRossWasWrong28 points29 points  (1 child) | Copy

No, he will be bounced out of college for rape. He had an obligation to realize she was not capable of rational thought or decision-making and should have not engaged in sexual congress with her, post suicide threat.

[–]fullhalf0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

holy shit, sounds like sarcasm but is probably what's going to happen. fucking makes me rage to think about it.

[–]BetterToBeFeared8 points9 points  (5 children) | Copy

I can go back to 2-3 instances in my life where I was coerced and in one case assaulted for sex. Of course in any of these instances I could have easily have used force to get myself out of them but then your taught never to put your hands on a woman. Plus, had I used force to free myself I'd probably be the one accused of rape somehow.

I never for one second considered myself a victim I just kind of laughed it off and chalked it up as another crazy sexcapades story. However, if a girl were in my shoes in those instances feminists would 100% call her a victim of sexual assault. So yeah, if I were given this survey and the new definition of "rape" I would absolutely tell them a woman had committed this crime against me.

I am not surprised the number is so high given the new feminist definition.

[–]LineOfCoke3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

I was sexually assaulted once. Fat nasty black girl grabbed my head and stuffed her tongue in my mouth be for I had time to react. Also can recall a time or two when girlfriend pestered me for sex even though mu was exhausted from a 16 hr day and my whole damn body was throbbing. The last thing I wanted to do was fuck. But she wouldn't stfu and let me sleep until I did.

[–]fullhalf0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

in high school at 14, this girl came up to my friend to try to mack on him. she put her arm on his shoulder and he shrug it off hard saying fuck off. she was ugly as fuck. so what does she do? she starts beating his ass. he was a nerdy kid, she was ghetto ass. broke his glasses and scratched up his neck. i pushed her off and we walk away. i didn't want to hit her because i was brainwashed so badly about not hitting girls. so we walk away and the girl chases after us so i had had it and i threw down my backpack and got ready to fight her. lo and behold a fucking cop shows up. we tell the cop to arrest her, we show him the scratches on his neck and his broken glasses. she is perfectly unharmed. the cop said something i never ever forgot. "i didn't see the fight so i can't do anything about it." even at that age, i knew he was a fucking liar and it stuck with me my entire life. if it was a girl who showed those marks, the guy would be arrested in a second. anyways, backstory is, she was his neighbor who he never noticed but she had been eyeing him for some time. he only realized it after he got back home and saw her around.

[–]1iluminatiNYC-3 points-2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Dude...if you're for real, you might want to talk to someone about that. Being "assaulted for sex" isn't a good thing, no matter what you call it. Jussayin'.

[–]1independentmale6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Don't do this.

It is not your place to tell somebody what they ought to feel. It is absolutely possible to enjoy being raped or sexually assaulted. In fact, it's one of the most popular sexual fantasies for women.

[–]BetterToBeFeared0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Maybe because I'm a male who didn't feel horribly threatened by these situations, and I don't like playing the victim when I don't feel like one, but I just laughed them off. I honestly don't have any long term damage from these experiences. People who do and want help should seek it sure, I just don't need it. My point is that I didn't even realize I was assaulted until I read the definition universities and feminists use for assault.

Also, I don't want to cast doubt on victims who have been hurt, but I think it is a natural reaction for some people to get riled up and play the victim when on paper they've been wronged even though they didn't feel like it was the case in the moment. Something happens, you're OK with it, then people and lawyers say "you've been hurt you should get justice!" And you then convince yourself you've been traumatized after the fact even though you wouldn't have felt bad for yourself if others haven't encouraged it.

[–]Dreamtrain6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Feminists say they want equality for both men and women so they have no right to complain about this one

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[–]fullhalf0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I wouldn't have considered it rape unless I fought them the entire time

feminists nowadays say a girl can consent to sex then not consent and it would be rape. she can not physically fight back at all and it could still be rape.

[–]AmazonExplorer5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Once again, this is only seen as a "problem" when women are directly implicated.

The problem isn't that men are being "raped" as often as women are, but that women are being accused of "rape" as often as men are.

[–]tabularaja5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

I am a rape surviv--fuck I just triggered myself

[–]LineOfCoke2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

/GIF of Tio Salamanca dinging his bell.

[–]tabularaja-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

thanks for the 3 minute lol haha

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First of all, if you were to verbally ask a woman, "want to have sex?", she will say "no" almost 100% of the time. That's what they do. They never actually say "yes, let's have sex". They avoid the question, or say no, or tease , or delay indefinitely, essentially forcing the man to take initiative. They don't say "yes" verbally, it is done more with body language or the way they carry themselves.

Furthermore, why is it that if someone gets drunk and decides to drive their car, they are guilty of driving under the influence. If they get drunk and are disorderly in the streets they are guilty of being drunk in public. YET if they decide to get dunk and have sex with someone else, then the person they had sex with is guilty of rape? Why? Why is it that drunks need to be held accountable to not drive, to not be drunk in public, YET, simultaneously, they have no accountability for who they decide to have sex with while they are voluntarily intoxicated? It makes absolutely no sense.

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Just to prepare you for the inevitable, allow me to introduce you to /r/pussypass ...

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The problem with everybody here cheering this shift is that AWALT really doesn't include rape culture feminism. Most women enjoy being able to hit the bar and pick up some alpha dick to ride on the weekends. The core group of modern feminists are ugly land whales that hate the fact they can't do the same. So they set out to ruin it for everybody. Its those unfuckable feminists that are the enemy here, not their entire gender.

They originally targeted men but if those hot carousal riders now have to suffer too then whats it to these fatties? They don't stand a chance at the club either way. Rape culture is not a war on men, its a war on sexual freedom. A war you're now supporting.

[–]Eenjoy5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

Asked a girl i used to work eith what she thought about modern feminism once, "I dont think that much about it. I am not ugly," was her response.

[–]manslutalt2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

She's not dumb either apparently.

[–]through_a_ways0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Most women enjoy being able to hit the bar and pick up some alpha dick to ride on the weekends.

Most women will also be physically disgusted after seeing that alpha dick show a demonstration of lower value, many of them enough to put the hammie wheel in overdrive to convince themselves, or others, that they were raped.

[–]nomadicwilk0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

that's an interesting point man. however, the pretty ones still do use the advantages given to them by feminism, namely birth control, abortion, paternity fraud, and divorce rape. the radical (in this context, a polite term for bat shit crazy) feminists are on the side of the spectrum of ugly and pulling a massive shit test over our sexual freedoms as men.

on a related note, if you saw one the parody video linked in the article, you might be able to tell who is leading this war. the old fart behind obama looks like he is about to explode with maniacal laughter when obama is spouting that bullshit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0ShuCkqHUQ&feature=youtu.be

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That's easily fixed, just put into law that only women can be victims and there you go!

[–]verdantmiles8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

Redundant. That's already the court's interpretation of law.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah, but that way there won't be any formalities and the courts can concentrate on prosecuting men.

[–]tallwheel0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Well, in most places forced envelopment and "made to penetrate" are not considered rape, so it almost is that way. A woman needs to anally penetrate a man with her finger or an object in order to legally rape him. Drugging him and mounting him? Not legally rape in most places.

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I've had reluctant fucks and reluctant asslickings, the latter is less uncomfortable

[–]1iluminatiNYC1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

And the headline is a problem...why?

Look, there are boys and men who are victimized and taken advantage of by women. If you don't want to use the word rape, fine. Call it hopscotch for all I care. Just don't call it not a crime. Maybe we'll see some justice in our lifetime. That would be sweet, wouldn't it?

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Its not a crime. 95% of the time. For either gender, either way you spin it. A crime would be holding someone down and forcing yourself on them while they resist with all their might. Nearly anything less is turning "I regreted it afterwards/didn't think it'd be made public/didn't mean the consent I gave because I drink myself blackout drunk when I go out to dance at clubs full of horny people looking for sex" into grounds for labeling the other person a sexual predator. Not. A. Crime.

Specifically talking about adult men and women here. More factors to look at when younger ages are in play.

[–]dencrypt0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Don't want to be the devils advocate here but do anyone have better sources than USA Today? The links they are referring to does not lead anywhere...

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Critics tend to dismiss these as trivial, suggesting that the men involved should just "man up." But, of course, there's no reason to think that such coercion is any more trivial where men are concerned than where women are concerned, unless you believe that women are such fragile flowers that they cannot possibly withstand things that men are supposed to ignore. It will be interesting to see how college disciplinary boards handle this. If, in light of the data, women exhibit a similar predilection for sexual misbehavior to men, then surely the colleges should be punishing roughly as many women as men for such conduct. If they are not, the only possible explanation is some form of institutional sexism. That should be good news for Title IX attorneys, at any rate.

That is what makes the article. It turns any would be naysayer into the illogical enemy. Most people can't handle it when their only argument becomes invalid.

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Women do rape.

Adults women rape children. Women sometimes blackmail men for sex.

The difference is women are more likely to use social means than physical means, because they are less likely to be able to physically conquer a man.

[–]_Dumb_Cunt_0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

As someone who believes in broad notions of gender equality and who thinks rape sucks...I think it's great.

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Glenn Reynolds aka "Instapundit", is one of the strongest allies in the struggle to defeat equalism.

[–]Flareprime0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I recently first heard the story of my younger brother getting raped. He was way too wasted and a woman carried him home, stripped him, and rode him forcibly. He told his friends after and they kinda guy-teased him. I wonder what kind of damage that does, no idea because he's a guy and won't talk about it.

This was years ago when nobody knew men could be raped. This is my brother, and I had no idea. Makes me wonder how many other men out there have suffered the same thing.

[–]Try_20 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I've been saying this for years. the Feminist/ Liberal Thought Police has spent so much time and effort trying to recreate the world in their own Orwellian image. Well, one day they're going to get the world they want, but I wonder if they'll like it.

[–]Red_Zepperin0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This is a good thing for everyone.

[–]whitetower600 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Women have had the potential to be rapists long before this article was published--this is not a shocking revelation. At least, it's not supposed to be. Male rape is chronically underreported because, among other reasons, the victims feel like they don't have a reason to feel abused.

[–]Meatclap0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Women were always rapists too, there is no "now". However, as usual, they will face less or no prosecution for their crimes since rape culture in this country has made it okay, even comedic, for women to violate men.

[–]JamesK19730 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The irony is strong with this one...

[–]Rougepellet0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

May reason assert itself sooner, rather than later.

Knowing how the public and society react, it'll be later. Much later.

[–]derkonigistnackt0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

times I was raped in my life:

1) at 16 a drunk older woman grabbed my dick in a club.

2) waking up multiple times with different partners by a BJ or just with the girl on top.

3) Having sex while drunk or high. I have very low tolerance, and I've had sex with polish women,... so they can clearly handle the alcohol better than me. So they "raped" me.

4) Every time I had sex with a woman over 18 when I was between 16 and 17 (I always had a thing for older girls, so they always raped me).

5) Tonight I'm going to have sex with a plate that I don't really care for that much anymore, since finding other better looking, younger and more interesting plates. So because I don't want to do it that much,... I'm going to get raped. And there's nothing I can do about it.

So... I am a victim, and I know my act of courage will inspire others to come out as well.

...In all seriousness, there should be another word for this kind of "rape". I am not traumatised by any of these experiences. You can't be raped if the only thing preventing you from stopping the sex act would have been to say: "hmm... I don't really feel like having sex right now". It's stupid and offensive for anyone who has been actually raped. And if this retarded extended version of rape is to exist and be punishable by law, because of the "stress it causes to its victims",.. then so should be a lot of things. Cheating for once. If we are married, have kids and you cheat on me... wouldn't that cause me a fuck ton of stress?? There's even a legal contract bonding us, and you broke it... shouldn't you go to jail?

[–]Endorsed ContributorRed_August0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Interesting little side note in one of the reports linked within the article: it turns out that a 15-year-old male is considerably more likely to be sexually assaulted than a woman over 40.

The Wall to the rescue.

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I just generally hope this stuff will stick for a while and do the damage to even things out and overcorrect.

[–]redpilltom0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It's the same thing wit h financial abuse.Read through what defines it and think about how many men you know go through that. Yet, of course, it really only applies to men.

[–]ComplainyGuy0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I love this subreddit. It has made me improve in QUANTIFIABLE ways. I am now on a career path, I have a wonderful relationship, I am a happier and mentally healthy person.

And so it hurts me to see this sub degrade itself to posting shit from USA Today purely for confirmation bias. (Below this comment I will reply headlines from this shitstain)

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[–]kataphora-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

do you know what cis means?

[–]super-nsfw-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Hahahaa....and this, young "educated" know-it-all female college students, is just part of the reason people don't take your opinions seriously.

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The question of the century is: Should men start seeing themselves as victims because he was nagged for sex?

[–]Evesest0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Should we? Yes. Will we? No.

We're better than that. I can't go my day crying about shit that didn't actually cause much more than inconvenience at the time. There are no emotional scars involved in most of these definitions of rape women have invented. It's just clear example of boredom and letting it get the better of them.

As a man, I've been forced to do much more that I'm uncomfortable with than a woman will ever be expected to endure. Even the shit we consider commonplace, like dating, is extremely demanding on the male party and catered to making the female feel comfortable; that they don't know what "being forced to do something against your will" really means. We don't even notice it anymore.

[–]LineOfCoke-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

I've been there, and I can't say I felt like a victim, but i was definitely pretty pissed off about it for a while. But chronic abusers, you know how they are. They make you feel on top of the world like everything is great, until its not for a few minutes/hours, and then its like nothing ever happened, so it gets to be surprising easy to ignore these attacks as long as they leave mo lasting physical effects.

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