So there's a not-so-secret conspiracy from all the more mainstream feminist and female oriented subs to ice out FDS under the premise that we're "extreme" and "not real feminists".
First of all, many of these female subs are modded by men, who clearly have a vested interest in policing women's thoughts and behaviors to their benefit. And since men on this website stay perched and ready to stomp on our clits all day every day for expressing opinions, pro-female comments and posts are disproportionately reported and removed.
Secondly, I'd like to point out that FDS is not even a specifically feminist theory sub, we’re a dating sub. We don’t pretend to represent any group other than ourselves, although many users would consider themselves feminist.
But apparently to the Reddit feminists at r/twoxchromosomes and r/feminism, and r/askfeminists there is only one way to be a “true” feminist and it’s settled despite the fact there has always been disagreements on several issues that are open for debate. You can’t even talk about varying schools of thought on feminism on the feminist subs without being banned. You know why? Because most of them don't know shit about feminism beyond a fake media crafted brand made to palatable to men to push capitalist and political agendas. They don’t want to talk about real feminist theory; challenge their narrative with actual feminist theory (even liberal feminism!) and expect a ban.
They also exclude a large portion of women from their brand of feminism and yet they still think they're entitled to speak for ALL feminists while pointing fingers at us that because we're not "inclusive" enough and are "judgmental" of women's choices:
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- They accuse us of being exclusive and judgmental to women for being "pickmeishas" but let any woman disagree with promoting the idea of sex work as empowering or criticize pornography and suddenly we're SWERFs who hate women and can't be feminists anymore.
- If we are skeptical of misogyny disguised as kink culture, we're sex negative and don't think women can make decisions.
- If we think men should pay on dates, we're setting women's equality back.
- If we think reproductive labor is work then we're reducing women to our vaginas.
- If working class women and women of color think your shitty "sex pozzy" values are creating more problems for them than they solve and disproportionately effecting them negatively such that they are ill advised values to push, we're slut shaming.
- If we suggest self responsibility and actionable empowerment as a solution instead of perpetual victimhood politics and pointless ineffectual thinkpieces, we hate women and blame them for all the problems in the world.
So surprise, surprise, turns out the Reddit feminist "inclusivity" police DO IN FACT have women they exclude as they *think* they are counterproductive to the goal of female equality. They even have cute little slurs and names to call us when we disagree! How judgmental and non-inclusive of them!
The cognitive dissonance in pretending to be inclusive while actively stomping out dissent for your personal narrative is astounding. Sounds like they’re just mad we exclude Pickmeishas instead of going on SWERF and TERF hunts like them and wallowing in victim politics. We don't exclude the women they exclude and therefore we're the "wrong" kind of feminists.
FDS advocates being who the fuck you want, doing what the fuck you want, and letting men know if they want to be a part of that they better add substantially to the experience or get bent. We're not just picking random men to hang out with forever; we're picking men we intend to father children with. That is a whole different level of investment in a person, so we demand a much higher investment back. And yes that mean's men paying for dates, contributing financially and otherwise demonstrating they're fit enough to have their offspring make it to the next generation. Why? Because we're the deciders, and we get to decide the decisions, and nature didn't make sexual and reproductive labor fair, and therefore we aren't either.
If you don't feel confident your pussy is worth a $30 dollar dinner date and it makes you "uncomfortable" when men pay that's on you sis. Feel real sorry for ya, because your virtue signaling will never earn their respect. These same feminists will Promote sex work as an avenue of female empowerment but discourage women from expecting men to financially invest in relationships and it makes absolutely no sense.
So let me get this straight, if I get paid to put on a school girl costume and call men daddy while being slapped in the face and then sell the video on the internet for strange scrotes to fap to, I’m more feminist than if I refuse to pay on dates and only date men who can carry more financial load? This is some Clown logic.
We're not here trying to find new objects to stick up our vaginas on our OnlyFans livestream so we can make rent this month and instead letting men know they can pay that shit and then some and they *maybe* might get to continue to enjoy our presence. Dudes are out here paying hundreds of dollars to sniff strangers' panties but for some reason FDSers are the outrageous ones? I would think the absolute indignity of making yourself into a sex object specifically tailored for male consumption would be the more problematic and less effective road to travel to equality but apparently that's SWERF logic and setting women back.
K' cool sis let us know how it works out. Oh wait, we already know:
If we want to go see the effects of stupid liberal feminist "equality" logic when it comes to sexual relationships all we have to do is wander over to r/breakingmom. Apparently, they've placed us on a ban bot because they got tired of us trying to help them get a clue.
You know why y'all broke-down-broke-ass moms are over on that sub crying right now? Because you failed to vet the loser you let seed you up because you thought all his couch creature behavior was adorbs when you were a childless couple but now your actual children demand attention you're finding out you've actually been single this whole time. Well sis, did you make sure he was capable of taking initiative? You've been up all night with the baby for the third night in a row and meanwhile your man's moping around the house crying about MUH PENIS and in our DMs on Tinder pretending to have an open relationship.
Honest to god some of y'all sound like you went and dusted off some dude passed out on a park bench and made him your baby's fav-ah.
You all may not like our methods, but the popularity of our sub should suggest that clearly there is a large population of women who are underserved by libfem culture and ideology. Mostly, because its ideologically incongruous, male pandering, and engaging in full on sex difference denialism at this point.
If your feminism isn't pissing men off at times then it's not real empowerment, sis. You know what power feels like? The thousands of scrotes in our DMs, Modmail, and Chats seething with rage their mommy mcbangmaid supply might be dwindling. When you've stumbled upon some real power, you will know because the scrotes will be frothing mad. This is what empowerment looks like. You want power? Then demand it and be consistent about it. Or cry more and hope somebody cares IDGAF, but hop off our labia with your sanctimonious bullshit, you're not better than us.
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