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TIL: Cesar Millan's wife (The Dog Whisperer) filed for divorce in March 2010. She ended up receiving a single payment of $400,000, monthly spousal payment of $23,000 (that's $276,000 a year), AND $120,000 a year in monthly child support. Cesar Millan then attempted suicide.

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07 January 2014 11:47 PM UTC
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Title TIL: Cesar Millan's wife (The Dog Whisperer) filed for divorce in March 2010. She ended up receiving a single payment of $400,000, monthly spousal payment of $23,000 (that's $276,000 a year), AND $120,000 a year in monthly child support. Cesar Millan then attempted suicide.
Author BobSagetTheFaget
Upvotes 953
Date 07 January 2014 11:47 PM UTC (6 years ago)
Subreddit TheRedPill
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/231811
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482 upvotesMemnar6 years ago

Even the dog Whisperer is getting fucked by a bitch.

21 upvotesIdontlikekarmawhores6 years ago

Oh this was fucking gold

21 upvotesHanSolo70076 years ago

Bill Burr: Epidemic of Gold Digging Whores. Awesome video about women getting outrageous divorce settlements.


189 upvotesrebuildingMyself6 years ago

Wow, and he's actually done something useful for the world, unlike her.

141 upvotesgekkozorz6 years ago

Reminds me of Bill Burr's redpill-as-fuck rant about great men getting divorce raped by gold digging whores. Link here.

So Ahnold gets ripped as fuck, comes to America, learns the language, becomes a trainer, becomes an actor, then becomes a goddamn Governor. You can't top achievements like these.

And what did his ex-wife do? Fucking got cheated on, so she gets half his bank. How the fuck does that make any goddamn sense?

11 upvotesBeaver12796 years ago

It only makes sense in that the contract you sign when you get married states just that. No one is stopping any of these men from having prenuptial agreements. I commend Bill Burr for making this an issue. Most people don't realize what they are doing when they sign the dotted line.

47 upvotesthelordofcheese6 years ago

no reals only feelz

5 upvotes • [deleted] • 5 years ago

"I'm afraid to get married. Why wouldn’t a man be afraid to get married at this point? You know, look at Kobe; look at the shit he is going through right now. All right, the guy is getting a divorce. His wife is going to get $70 million bucks, never hit a lay up in her life."

-26 upvotesmc00796 years ago

uhhh...Maria Shriver was a Kennedy, she didn't need to Gold Dig, she already had money....Maybe Arnold should not have cheated.

53 upvotesgekkozorz6 years ago

Let me ask you a question. Do you think that Orlando Bloom is kind of ridiculously handsome?

Well, interestingly enough, not only is he that, but he's also quite wealthy - like $35 million dollars wealthy, to be exact.

Well, he was married to Miranda Kerr, a Victoria's Secret supermodel who has quite a bit of cash herself.

So Kerr shouldn't have to gold dig, should she? I mean, she's got it made. Mountains of money, a gorgeous husband... it's the American dream.

Well, recently she left Orlando for a guy who looks like fucking this.

Why, you ask, would a gorgeous supermodel who could have any man in the world settle for a turdface like this?

Because he's a billionaire.

That's right, all those tens of millions of dollars weren't enough for her. She needed more, more, more.

If you think that women stop gold digging at any given monetary level, you are sadly mistaken.

20 upvotesOrmild6 years ago

Fuck me. Even Orlando Bloom got traded? How does any man stand a chance?

14 upvotesboydeer6 years ago

he is a foppish dandy. just because he's rich and pretty doesn't mean he has any skills whatsoever.

what you do is build yourself and your life until you can hold a stable frame, and find a woman that is comforted by the frame you provide. keep your standards high, and be willing to walk away if she doesn't meet your them. do not compromise your standards simply because the woman likes you, or she is very pretty. accept someone who is less attractive than your ideal but who has good sense and is willing to put you first. when you live your life, always think about providing the best net effect for your surrounding world, of which she will be a part. create an interesting and secure world, and it will be a nice place for a partner to live.

this is a short guide to successful human relationships.

9 upvotesrebuildingMyself6 years ago

Gold digging is just hypergamy in a bitter but open light

5 upvotessweetleef6 years ago

Lesson: don't put faith in a woman that has more outs than you do.

3 upvotes • [deleted] • 6 years ago

On the other side of the coin, I bet that's one happy pool boy.

27 upvotes • [deleted] • 6 years ago

Being born into a fucking name is not an achievement. If you think cheating on someone is cause for having to give up half of your worth, you're a fucking moron.

9 upvotes • [deleted] • 6 years ago

Just want to point out, some people might say that you are a moron for mixing "have" and "half"

Not me though. That shit happens

7 upvotes • [deleted] • 6 years ago

I most definitely am! It's been a long day :'(

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14 upvotesotiswild6 years ago

Well maybe Maria shouldn't have been an insufferable feminist cunt.

-15 upvotesFurfire6 years ago

Or maybe he shouldn't have cheated.

21 upvotes • [deleted] • 6 years ago

Not sure why that entitles her to half of what he owns.

-1 upvotesquintaldo6 years ago

men cant cheat with their dicks, only with their checkbooks

women cheat with their vaginas, because that's what they bring to the marriage

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57 upvotesfrankie_q6 years ago

Unless there are children involved. Unmarried men have even fewer rights to their kids, and will have to pay child support whatever happens.

Alimony seems to be on its way out, and a prenup might soften the blow of divorce settlements.

If there are no children involved, and the dude's had a vasectomy, then definitely, don't get married.

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26 upvotes • [deleted] • 6 years ago

Yes. The only solution to solve men getting screwed over with divorce is to live solemn, empty life with no family and to survive off a flow of young, loose women with issues until you're an old lonely man. Maybe the better solution is to find a spouse/significant other that is stable and trustworthy instead of just marrying the hottest chick that will say yes. Also, if divorce happens, hire the best/seediest lawyer you can find.

19 upvoteselevul6 years ago

Vasectomy is a man's best friend.

14 upvotes • [deleted] • 6 years ago

They don't even have to be your children for you to be forced to support them. You just need to be seen as a "father figure"

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58 upvotesWhisper6 years ago

You go ahead.

But be aware that you are not a player in the game of evolution. You are only one of the pieces. So if you want to bust your ass so that a bunch of alleles can "win" a game they're not sentient enough to know they're playing, then knock yourself out. But you aren't going to win anything for it.

2 upvotessantaincarnate6 years ago

The evolution game will be won by the Catholics, Quiverfull and rapists, and we can't change it.

14 upvotesstill_very_alive6 years ago

Get some sperm cryogenically frozen first, though. Never hurts to keep options open.

-1 upvoteshermit0876 years ago

Its only about $500 a year to keep sperm frozen, so for high income men it should be a no brainer to keep some sperm frozen, then get clipped. Its the best of both worlds.

-2 upvotes • [deleted] • 6 years ago

Or just reverse the vasectomy.

2 upvotesequeco6 years ago

I see having children as the only concrete attempt to immortality. Life's a continuum, your genes form a new human, he's part you in a very concrete way, and he may live and reproduce too. It only takes finding a nice, intelligent woman to reproduce with. That shouldn't be so hard for a healthy, accomplished man.

11 upvotesFascistComicBookHero6 years ago

It's frustrating to see that this is the majority opinion amongst these parts, because not having children is the evolutionary equivalent of rolling over and dying a quiet death in the ditch somewhere. This no-marriage-no-kids thing is a nihilistic abdication of responsiblity. It stinks of laziness and cowardice. We should be aiming to out-compete, out fight and out-smart the douchebags - and the disgusting feminist social expermient that created them - by procreating and raising future generations in our image. To do otherwise is the path of surrender and extinction. Is scorched earth really our only policy in relation to Western society?

16 upvotesCurveballSI6 years ago

It stinks of laziness and cowardice.

No, it stinks of "I don't agree with this statement."

by procreating and raising future generations in our image. To do otherwise is the path of surrender and extinction.

I wonder how long it will take people to finally understand that Red Pill isn't about beating anyone at anything. It's about being a better person for you, not anyone else. You want to have kids? Great, go do that. You want to be a rich, powerful CEO? Awesome. Do it. But do it for you, not for a chick, not for your family, not for "future generations." Do it for you.

3 upvotesbatfish556 years ago

Thank you. Few people seem to get this. Mostly it's all about Charlie's Sheen's version of WINNING, instead of just making you a better you.

3 upvotes • [deleted] • 6 years ago

I wonder how long it will take people to finally understand that all of life is inherently about beating someone at something: breeding.

This isn't some metaphysical question. You are a vehicle for the propagation of genetic material. That is your purpose. I don't give any shits how much you grate against that, that's how the world works. It can't be disagreed with -- I'm not the one saying this.

Nothing you do will ever be for you. Everything you do will be the result of instincts. Are you honestly so stupid as to think that only women have hamsters? Sure, society enables them to give theirs a much better workout than it does men, but every human brain is a rationalization generator. You have no more idea why you really do the things you do than anyone else does.

Not one thing you do is done for any other reason than that your instincts are telling you to do it. That's why humans can create a sub simultaneously dedicated to both declaring how having children is fucking stupid... and how to fuck lots of chicks.

42 upvotesreal-boethius6 years ago

It stinks of laziness and cowardice.

You're right. We should man up.


2 upvotes • [deleted] • 6 years ago

Man up has to do with society. You can rebel against society. You can tell other men to go fuck themselves. I do that all of the time. I would never be so foolish as to think that I could do that to the natural world, because the natural world would fucking kill me.

Natural selection will make you it's bitch one way or the other. Either you'll give in to instinct and have a kid willingly, the instincts that actually matter will take over and you'll have that kid by accident, or you'll fail to breed altogether and be removed from the gene pool.

But like I said, you will be nature's bitch. There is no way around that.

30 upvotesWhisper6 years ago

It's frustrating to see that this is the majority opinion amongst these parts, because not having children is the evolutionary equivalent of rolling over and dying a quiet death in the ditch somewhere.

You are not a player in the game of evolution. You are a piece.

This no-marriage-no-kids thing is a nihilistic abdication of responsiblity.

Can't abdicate a responsibility I never had to begin with.

It stinks of laziness and cowardice.

Go on and keep trying to shame me into being a tool. I do so love a good laugh.

Is scorched earth really our only policy in relation to Western society?

Ay-firmative. Men taking responsibility for society without thought of reward was what got us into this mess.

Trying to sell your point of view, trying to win people's hearts and minds... you can't win that game. You've forgotten The Fundamental Premise.

So you can go on pouring your time, love, care, and tax money into western civilization. And feminist-enlightened women will drink it right up, slurp, gone, like a cup of water poured into the Rub' al Khali. And then they'll say "where's the rest?".

Because when you give someone something unearned, they resent you for it. People want to believe they deserve their good fortune. So they make up stories about how it's theirs by right. They will convince themselves that they are entitled to everything you have given them, and demand more.

And everyone will believe their rationalizations about what they are entitled to, because of The Fundamental Premise.

So you can't win by fighting. The way you win is to go on strike.

1 upvotestriceratraps6 years ago

I dont understand what you mean by you are not a player in the game of evolution you are a piece. Can you please explain?

0 upvotesnicethingyoucanthave6 years ago

The Fundamental Premise

It's a very compelling idea that differing parental investment is the underlying basis for a lot of our views and customs. I was about to ask you to post a link to that in PPD and see how they respond - but then I remembered that I can predict their responses quite easily. "Humans are not animals! We're way more complicated than that!"

Basically, the dismiss uncomfortable truths with a wave of the hand.

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11 upvotesmd6196 years ago

Not getting married or having kids has nothing to do with laziness. Read more. And TRP is not a social movement. If you want to save society go somewhere else

1 upvotes • [deleted] • 6 years ago

Sure, but it is fun to argue with people who who so laughably contradict their own supposed beliefs.

You all claim to accept every uncomfortable truth... but this one you spit back out because you don't the way it tastes. I don't particularly like it, either, but that doesn't mean that it's not the truth.

I am an atheist, but if God started talking to me right now, I'd be a convert by noon. What I want doesn't mean dick.

2 upvotesNemester6 years ago

No, it is a rational decision. It is self-interest over social interest.

Frankly, I know quite well that society will collapse because many men are looking after themselves first now. It gives me a warm fuzzy feeling inside to think of the leftoids being destroyed by their own stupidity.

2 upvotesstrangestdude6 years ago

It's frustrating to see that this is the majority opinion amongst these parts, because not having children is the evolutionary equivalent of rolling over and dying a quiet death in the ditch somewhere. This no-marriage-no-kids thing is a nihilistic abdication of responsiblity.

I don't let the theory of evolution dictate my ethics.

Evolution explains speciation, but I don't use it as a model on which to base my life.

6 upvotesHatorader6 years ago

Fight what exactly? Who can run towards the cliff faster? Not having kids doesn't just help you, it helps the world. Humans = wasted resources, pollution, wars, disease, more scumbag humans, more extinct species, less natural habitat and a general degradation of the world in general. Human society is disgusting. Debauchery, murder, theft, corruption and let's not forget that it's all meaningless too, that's a pretty big one.

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0 upvotessweetleef6 years ago

Yes, the world would be a more enjoyable place if there were no people around to enjoy it.

-1 upvotesboydeer6 years ago

Humans = wasted resources

what are the resources properly used on?


like cats cause pollution


like ants fighting


that's called life

more extinct species

more life

less natural habitat

unnatural habitat doesn't exist

general degradation of the world in general

this is an illusion all generations of us experience. we've been on the verge of destruction for thousands of years, which probably has something to do with how our consciousness is shaped by our single serving life cycle.

1 upvotes • [deleted] • 6 years ago

It's not laziness or cowardice, it's just idiocy.

And it won't really matter. If our instincts actually depended on us wanting the end result, those instincts would be easily defeated by our intellect. But our instincts just nudge us along in subtle ways that never allow us any consideration as to where those nudges will take us.

Watch these men. They will claim not to have Want children. Then they will brag endlessly about the women they screw, as if the two are completely independent of each other. But condoms suck as birth control. Vasectomies at times fail, and many of the men who suggest them will never even get them themselves.

But if fear was actually enough to prevent breeding, the cub would never challenge the aging pack leader. The old buck wouldn't have to fight for breeding rights with young bucks. The few who are so instinctually flawed as to allow fear to get in the way... well, they were never meant to breed in the first place. That's just natural selection taking it's course.

-5 upvotesAlma_Negra6 years ago

In risk of getting downvoted. This is the most redpill statement I've read in this sub.

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8 upvotesADH-Kydex6 years ago

Kids are awesome. I just taught my little guy how to shop vac and got to watch him clean off a work bench. Then I let him drill a few holes on the drill press, that's always fun. He's a great kid and its really fun watching him grow up, no matter what happens in the future I do not regret having kids.

So, being married is fine. Having kids is pretty cool.




37 upvotesFloranHunter6 years ago

It's a good thing both parties have to agree to divorce.


8 upvotesNemester6 years ago

You don't get a choice. I bet you end up like my brother. Together 10 years, he "did everything right" (this isn't too far from the truth from my perspective). That didn't stop her from cheating on him and filing.

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2 upvotesboydeer6 years ago

i think he's saying it would be worth it for him anyway.

0 upvotes • [deleted] • 6 years ago

Lead well

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0 upvotesYouDislikeMyOpinion6 years ago

You don't have to be married to have kids.

10 upvotes • [deleted] • 6 years ago

1) Having children with a women is nearly as financially committing as getting married is. If you break up, there will be child support payments, and they are not based on what the child needs, they're based on your income. You're effectively married in terms of financial risk.

2) Children are best raised in a two-parent household. The idea of running around "spinning plates" while trying to raise 2-3 kids is ridiculous and is just a plain bad family environment.

3) Many places have common law marriage. In Canada, if you have children with a woman and live together, you're now under the same financial burdens of actually being married.

Reality is, if you want to have kids and give them a good home, you're going to have to face the same financial risk as getting married. It sucks, but if you want kids, that's our legal climate.

2 upvotes • [deleted] • 6 years ago

It is hilarious how many people clearly disagree with you, but can't quite, because they know how blue-pill it sounds when they do.

A man who leaves half-dozen pregnant woman behind him is more likely to be evolutionarily successful than a man who stays with one woman he impregnates a half-dozen times. The genetic variance secured through this action is simply more effective at spreading his genes than the resources he would invest in a marriage.

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4 upvotes • [deleted] • 6 years ago

Oh shit...

-1 upvotesvozkhan6 years ago

Adopt a kid?

4 upvotesniceguy_gone_cad6 years ago

Use a surrogate mother if you want one.

-1 upvotes • [deleted] • 6 years ago

Um. No. Children have the potential to make you more awesome.

2 upvotesredpillschool6 years ago

Getting married doesn't change your legal status as father.

89 upvotes • [deleted] • 6 years ago

Everyone on reddit needs to up vote this. People should join reddit just to up vote it.

44 upvotesManuel_S6 years ago

Done. Because true is true.

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22 upvotesAtleticomadrid6 years ago

You won't find this opinion very popular here.

35 upvotessibre20016 years ago

I imagine when I get married

So much advice, so little experience.

14 upvotes • [deleted] • 6 years ago

personal issues afoot.

You mean like more money to spend on personal time?

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11 upvotes • [deleted] • 6 years ago

Dude. You think every fucking guy that ever got divorced is an idiot? Like they went into it thinking it wasn't "the right thing"? "Well fuck it, may as well try"?

They all thought they had the right one. They got fucked. Learn from them.

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You're in the wrong subreddit mate

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12 upvotesFloranHunter6 years ago

If you're been together for 5 years then why would you marry?

Look at marriage the way a wise person would: a contract. A contract where the man gains a few fringe benefits, a tiny bit more rights to their child, and incredible burden. The woman gains those fringe benefits, loses a bit of control over their child*, and gains a huge incentive to divorce.

Your relationship has ups and downs. In the downs, things may get rough. Do you really want to add a massive incentive to break up on top?

* I don't say rights because men gain some control over seeing their child while women merely lose the ability to as easily deny men that control. The skew is enough that there's a qualitative difference.

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1 upvotesstill_very_alive6 years ago

Looks like they did- I've never seen a comment on this sub with so many upvotes.

2 upvotesSMEGMA_CHEESE5 years ago

I did and I realize that I made a huge mistake. I feel like my finger is constantly on the suicide trigger because so many things can go wrong.

5 upvotesGood2Go52806 years ago

Just make sure your wife makes more money than you.

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0 upvotesniceguy_gone_cad6 years ago

Yes, you can in some places.

8 upvotes • [deleted] • 6 years ago

Who ever got married thinking it wasn't? Your sure thing isn't sure. EVER.

4 upvotesYouDislikeMyOpinion6 years ago

Load some bullets into the cylinder, spin it, close the cylinder. Put the barrel of the gun against your temple, and pull the trigger.

Pull the trigger on an empty chamber.

2 upvotesNemester6 years ago

Get out of our subreddit asshat.

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-1 upvotesWhisper6 years ago

we need more marriages in the Western world

Who's this "we"?

I don't need to get married. I don't need other people to get married. I don't need you to get married.

Do you need me to get married? Does someone else?

If so, then the need for me to get married is that person's problem, not mine, and it will remain not my problem until whoever it is figures out how to incentivize marriage for me.

And telling me "you'll save Western civilization!" cuts no ice.

Because Western civilization hasn't shown me that it's worth saving, or that it's worth it to me to save it, or even that it wants to be saved. The West is a sinking ship, whose captains have shown all too willing to throw me and my fellow members of the penis owners' club over the side if it means they get to ride a little higher in the water for a while. And now you want me to bail until I go down with the ship?

No, thanks. It's the lifeboats for me, and if I can't get one, then it's party time on the topmost deck until the inevitable end.

Because you can't save civilization by working harder and sacrificing more. That's how we got into this mess in the first place... with men doing what was good for everyone, and women doing what was good for themselves. Women's ability to take, consume, devour, and use up finally outstripped men's ability to produce, build, fix, and invent, because women, no longer satisfied with consuming the product of men's roles, began to covet the roles themselves.

They wanted into our companies so they could play career. And, like a child who was no longer content to play race car driver with her little red wagon, they demanded daddy's car to play with. And we, insanely, gave it to them. Now daddy can't drive to work, the little girl can't get a job and replace his earnings because she's just a little girl and doesn't even want to drive to work for real, and no one eats.

You think you're gonna save civilization by working harder and raising more hard workers? Nah. Feminist-enlightened women and their leftoid ideological colleagues are just gonna take everything you build, and everything your children build and make it vanish with a giant slurping sound.

And then they're gonna say "Where's the rest?"

These people are incapable of moderating themselves. They do not understand scarcity, and they are not going to sit still for you to explain it to them. They do not realize or care that government money isn't free mana from heaven, and they don't know that the economy is an engine, not a cornucopia, and they don't care about the people down in the bilges doing the bailing.

You can never produce as fast as they can consume, because they demand not only what you produce, but the means of production. They don't just want the house you built for free. They want you to give them your saw and hammer and nails so they can play carpenter. And once you give them your saw and hammer and nails, they want another house.

The only way to get rid of these people is to starve them out. To give them nothing until they either perish or learn to produce. You have to give them as little as you can of what you produce, and keep as much as you can for yourself.

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1 upvotesWhisper6 years ago

Man what a wall of text, you obviously took that very personally... be cordial son, I am not your enemy.

Bro, you can shit test me if you want, but I'll just agree and amplify. Besides, you'd look kinda silly in a skirt. So let's skip the talking about each other's feeeeelings and skip right to the facts part, eh?

I'm not quite sure you fully understand me. Or the sidebar.

You see, you ask:

What's the point of TRP if not to help change this absurd feminazi/liberal brainwashing being DONE to the West?

Welcome to TRP. We are a subreddit about personal survival and sexual strategy in a culture increasingly lacking a positive identity for men.

A friend of mine recently pointed out that crusades consist of crusaders, while civilizations consist of civilians. YOu cannot save civilization by persuading everyone to join a crusade.

You denounce Western CULT-ure

I do not. Western culture contains some of the greatest things humanity has come up with, and it is just plain superior to others. Western society, however, the inheritor of that culture, is a different thing.

The ship may be the best design ever, and soundly built, but the tiller has been given to madmen, and they are steering us towards the rocks. Why would I keep rowing? That will just make things worse faster.

-2 upvotesMasterGoshinki6 years ago

That or major pre-nup, with multiple fucking lawyers present!

101 upvotesAbiogeneralization6 years ago

I was so sad when I heard that. I'm a big fan of The Dog Whisperer. It's like TRP of dog training. Humans and dogs are different. If you try to treat a dog in the way you'd like to be treated you'll get nowhere. The blue pillers in this case are people who still try and deal with their dogs as they would with unruly children... Someone's going to read this and think I think women are like dogs...

Anyway, I hated hearing about how his whole "pack" broke up at once. His wife divorced him, destroying his family AND his favorite dog died. Men like him just need a pack to belong to; they can be loyal if you let them.

It's unfortunately common for divorced men to attempt suicide. Fortunately, Caesar tried to kill himself by eating a bunch of chocolate.

41 upvotesDanReggins6 years ago

Actually, I found his teachings about dogs to be really helpful in leading group expeditions/tours.

Publicly not acknowledging someone's aggressive, dominant behavior, followed by not acknowledging them, is REALLY effective.

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34 upvotesDanReggins6 years ago

Especially little fat ones named Eric Cartman!

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15 upvotesDanReggins6 years ago

Certainly. You can laugh, but I first learned it when watching Cesar Milan's character on South Park, when he was brought in to discipline and fix Eric Cartman after nannies had failed.


If you can, check out the full episode.. one of my favorites!

3 upvotes • [deleted] • 6 years ago

Out of curiosity, what job did you have/do you have where you lead group expeditions/tours and also have to deal with aggressive behavior?

5 upvotesDanReggins6 years ago

PM'ed. I'd rather not mention too much here.

3 upvotes • [deleted] • 6 years ago

Sounds good

2 upvotesCrackertron6 years ago

Probably camping trips with troubled inner city teens.

7 upvotesrebuildingMyself6 years ago

Concepts like establishing dominance and not reinforcing negative behavior are universal. We're all animals underneath it all

28 upvotesMysterManager6 years ago

How the fuck does a judge award shit like this with a straight face.

20 upvotesar103086 years ago

Probably a woman.

16 upvotesrebuildingMyself6 years ago

A male judge that's run through the feminist brainwashing requirements are just as bad

19 upvotesmydoucheaccount6 years ago

"If you try to treat a dog in the way you'd like to be treated you'll get nowhere"...also if you treat a woman the way you'd like to be treated you'll get nowhere

4 upvotesAbiogeneralization6 years ago

if you treat a woman the way you'd like to be treated you'll get nowhere.

Especially since you can't get anywhere at all if you never leave the bedroom.

22 upvotesBoyMeetsHarem6 years ago

It's unfortunately common for divorced men to attempt suicide. Fortunately, Caesar tried to kill himself by eating a bunch of chocolate.


3 upvotes • [deleted] • 6 years ago

good analogy about how people interact with dogs.

1 upvotesSergnb5 years ago

Wasn't it proven that Millan's methos were baloney and were actually harmful in the dog's behaviour, and only were effective for the instant "wow" moment of seeing the instant change in behaviour, but utterly pointless in long time terms?

1 upvotesTheIslander8296 years ago

It's like TRP of dog training

Actually, I think Milan's tactics are unnecessary. Does it work? Yes, it works. Is there a better way? Absofuckinglutely!

It's too draconian.

I've so far trained 2 dogs for obedience competitions, and not once have I and to be cruel to them.

There was a post here on TRP about how you're supposed to use more of a reward system with women instead of punishment. It's exactly what I do with dogs.

3 upvotesAbiogeneralization6 years ago

I don't think his tactics are draconian, even as a human. But the point is that humans try to deal with dogs as they would humans. They get down on their level and use their words to communicate their wishes. What they need to do is to speak dog, which is being dominant (not aggressive or violent) and giving a light bite on the scruff of the neck. Humans would prefer not to be treated that way but for dogs anything else is abnormal and confusing.

The Golden Rule has limited value in dog training and in heterosexual relationships.

1 upvotesTheIslander8296 years ago

What they need to do is to speak dog, which is being dominant (not aggressive or violent)

Exactly. But I don't think Milan is speaking dog, I think he's speaking wolf or lion.

Dogs we've domesticated for thousands of years.

My favorite trainer is Zak George, and he differs from Milan in every possible way.


This is what he does.

1 upvotesAbiogeneralization6 years ago

Very true. But humans have been domesticated for longer. We haven't changed as much as people would like to believe. That's why this sub exists.

But I won't pretend to be an expert on dog training. I'm sure you've got more experience.

1 upvotesTheIslander8296 years ago

Very true. But humans have been domesticated for longer. We haven't changed as much as people would like to believe. That's why this sub exists.

Absolutely. However, in humans we haven't done artificial selective breeding. There was an Austrian guy in the 1940s that tried it, and the whole world went to war over it (yes, Hitler was from Austria, not Germany).

With dogs we've selected for the traits we want, and killed off the breed lines we didn't want.

Humans haven't changed much because we keep fucking each other across races and different geographical locations. It's the Genetic Drift principle. New genetic traits only emerge when the species is forced to do so. We've been living comfortably since we invented farming.

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1 upvotesTheIslander8296 years ago

Dogs aren't wolves.

We've domesticated dogs for thousands of years. They're not even close.

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1 upvotesTheIslander8296 years ago

Show me.

Show me a wolf as tame as this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pM2pD9Kwv4c

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122 upvotes--TakeThePill6 years ago

You'd think someone like Cesar Millan would be able to implement his tactics on her.

So many great men have been screwed by marriage..

31 upvotes • [deleted] • 6 years ago

I remember hearing him talk about his marriage with his wife (pre-divorce), and it was clear he was overly sensitive to her wants and perceptions. He kept going on about how she straightened him out and such.

37 upvotesInternetFree6 years ago

Many men want marriage because they can finally have someone to tell them what to do. A person they can be vulnerable to. Men sometimes want to be and feel vulnerable and show that side of them. They can't do it with anyone but if aomeone swears her loyalty to you, you should be able to yake their word on it, right?


However, you would assume a person whose fucking job it is to be super dominant every single day at sometime also wants to be vulnerable and have at least one person that can dominate him. It was what cost him all this.

16 upvotesrebuildingMyself6 years ago

A lot of men don't know any other relationship other than mom and son. He expects warmth, protection, etc and thus acts vulnerable and weak in front of her.

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This reminds me of a conversation my wife was having with me about our 14 yro son today, she said he was defiant to her, but not really in a rebellious way. I explained to her that it was ok because he was just expressing the fact that he didn't want mom telling him what to do.

My awesome RPW wife understood, though she was sad to see her "baby" growing up. Mom's can be the worst for sons. We dads really need to be there and show them how to stand on their own.

My son knows from my telling him, and his experiencing how, harsh and cruel the world truly is. He will learn to be strong, and I'm not going to correct him for respectfully expressing his desires to his mother.

1 upvotesDaedalusFinch6 years ago

Thank you for posting this.

55 upvotesindieshometownhifi6 years ago

Unfortunately people aren't logical like dogs. I think this is why dog people exist.

7 upvotesjakethesnake766 years ago

i have learned alot from Cesar about dogs and how to read them , i thought surely he could also read women and lead them too.Boy the western world sure has things backwards with women and men and it will not go well for us in the future..

0 upvotesmagical_artist5 years ago

I remember watching an episode or two, and thinking man! Take some of the concepts of stating dominance, and controlling unacceptable behaviour and your gold.

Mr. Millan must be alpha!

66 upvotesTotenglocke426 years ago

TIL Cesar Millan is straight.

18 upvotes • [deleted] • 6 years ago

He might try men after that episode

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26 upvotesrebuildingMyself6 years ago

It's just a wink wink nudge nudge bonus for the woman.

15 upvoteshermit0876 years ago

There needs to be a hard limit. I don't care if the father is Bill Gates, $15k a year is enough to cover the actual costs of raising the child.

4 upvotesLuciusExitius6 years ago

Yeah why give the kids to someone that needs extra money instead of the person that can afford it? Wouldn't it be easier to give the custody to the father instead of transferring assets?

3 upvotesdrdewm6 years ago

The state Child Support Agency agency gets a federal kick back for the money they collect in child support so they take every bit that is legally enforceable. Imagine asking the IRS to take a little less than they are legally allowed to, won't happen. They take because they can.

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Damn man. I liked this guy a lot. Some of his show was hammed up nonsense as is the requirement to be on TV, but most of it was actually very true. I'm a big dog person, and a few years ago I got a quarter wolf-dog and Millan's ideas worked really well, and helped me avoid a lot of the problems people report having with half wolves or quarter wolves.

Basically, everywhere a guy is out there contributing something to humanity, there's someone receiving half of what he earns for doing jack shit. Well, three people. The government, the courts earning a % of the amount of alimony / CS paid, and the ex-wife who deserves to "maintain her standard of living". It's a great 'fuck you for helping the world'.

Stop supporting this bullshit societal institution. Marriage has one function - to help the state and women profit from the accomplishments of men. It helps the economy by giving women (spenders) access to men (savers) bank accounts. Yes this is a generalization that women are spenders and men are savers, but ask any top level marketing guy (5-10+ years in the industry). Women make anywhere from 70-85% of purchasing decisions. Marriage exists to give women access to the money they need to keep crappy corporations alive.

Marriage has nothing to do with love - it is merely another form of taxation. It's the largest wealth transferrence agent in the world. It's even worse than government taxation, and I say this as a pretty libertarian guy. Taxation reams men a lot harder than it does women, and it puts the majority of those tax dollars to bullshit meant to appease and court female voters. Yet it at least pretends to put that money towards the good of its citizens, thus enabling taxpayers to reap benefits in the end. Marriage just straight up rapes men for 60% by the time all the proceedings are done. That money, unlike the 30% of income you might pay to taxes, does not go towards society. It just goes to your ex. Which means, it goes to buying whatever companies market to her - a pink prius, some cutco knives, clothes, jewelry, an apartment way above her own means, etc. You have no way of making it even go to your kids.

Marriage is a tax on men. Luckily, it's easily avoidable. While we are lucky enough to live in a society where the "marriage tax" is easily avoidable, I recommend that all men avoid it like the plague. Pre-nups do not always help. Hiding money often does not work.

For married guys, read up on WTF to do if things go bad. You wouldn't go sailing without knowing what to do if bad weather hits. There's a lot of great resources on how to "win" (which in this case means get fucked hard, but not torn apart with a spiked dildo in courts). RP game can help a lot, but beyond that, if you're married, have a detailed escape plan. Learn the tricks of the top players in the game - wealthy women. No matter how happy your marriage is, don't be ignorant, get your knowledge up.

3 upvotestrplurker1236 years ago

Marriage is a legal contract between two parties to join themselves together in a legal union. It was originally constructed as joining of two families. Now there's tons of legally privileges including: immigration, tax, end of life, health insurance, estate benefits that have been tacked onto that.

However, for most men (and now more women) if you get divorced and if you have kids, welcome back to your early bachelor(ette) lifestyle because that's what you'll be able to afford. You know without being young and having all the responsibilities of age tacked on top of the bachelor lifestyle.

32 upvotesantihostile6 years ago

What a bitch.

37 upvotesaverageredditor1236 years ago

Too bad the guy couldn't discipline his wife as well as he could the dogs.

20 upvotesroamingjerk6 years ago

If he couldn't pull it off, what are the odds for the rest of us?

3 upvotesNemester6 years ago

It is hard to discipline a wife when the state destroys all of your power, and makes sure she knows it.

11 upvotesniceguy_gone_cad6 years ago

He should transfer his assets to a foreign bank and leave the country. He can afford to do that, unlike the average Joe.

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3 upvotesDi-eEier_von_Satan6 years ago

I don't know that banning women is the right strategy, but rather I think a panel of Judges, like the supreme court, should decide every case. Having more than one judge automatically puts in a system of checks and balances.

2 upvotesniceguy_gone_cad6 years ago

IMO there shouldn't be any female judge, or any woman in power over logical decisions.

That would improve the justice system A LOT.

52 upvotesMightyskunk6 years ago

The judge who presided over this should be shot. All it takes are a few examples to change a system.

58 upvotesBeardsman26 years ago

If it happened to me then instead of committing suicide I would do my best to kill the judge, lawyer and wife. Dignity and honour is worth killing and dying for.

11 upvoteshermit0876 years ago

It happens once in a while. Divorce lawyers have been killed before, and wives too obviously.

One in 2011

32 upvotesMightyskunk6 years ago

Thank you. When I saw the orange envelope by my karma, I thought it was gonna be someone saying, "Enjoy getting raped by a big black guy in jail!" or "People like you make me sick" or some other Reddit herd response.

I appreciate you.

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10 upvotesMightyskunk6 years ago

It's not a random stranger. It's someone who shook the right hands to be elected to his or her post. Beyond that, it's someone handing out a cruel and unusual punishment, knowing what it will amount to, in terms of the man possibly taking his own life. Isn't that tantamount to murder? That's not just doing your job. That's sticking it to someone for no good reason.

Should the judge be charged with attempted murder, based on the fact that logically, a man will not work his ass off for nothing and will generally just off themselves instead?

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-1 upvotesMasterGoshinki6 years ago

Don't speak too soo...

4 upvotesNemester6 years ago

I bet it would only take 1 publicized high profile case where a dude went nuts to prompt a whole bunch of copycats. Those judges and lawyers would be shitting their pants.

-2 upvotesNokusaki6 years ago

Don't kill the lawyer, he was only doing his job.

3 upvotesREDDITCanSuckMyCOCK6 years ago

Every lawyer has the right to say no. The ex-wife's lawyer is just as guilty as the rest of the scum.

2 upvotesNokusaki6 years ago

Unlike the judge, the job of the lawyer is not to judge who is right and who is wrong. Its just to present the best case they can for whoever is paying them.

1 upvotesjpflathead6 years ago

I won't get involved in whether anyone should be killed, but I have certainly experienced lawyers who knew better saying things in court, advocating for punishments and rewards that were completely unfounded by the facts.

It's one thing to say that everyone in criminal court deserves a vigorous defense but the daily courtroom antics in family law go way beyond a vigorous defense to advocacy of known lies, misrepresentations and uncalled for unjustifiable punishments. And downright extortion.

8 upvotes • [deleted] • 6 years ago

Was the Judge that granted this Satan?! Fuck me. Does she fit the definition of royal cunt?

13 upvotesevergonitenitenigga6 years ago

can somebody eli5 me how this is possible/legal?

16 upvotesMengs876 years ago

In the worst possible case, the man can end up like Dave Foley:


Poor guy - he can never go home again.

20 upvotesredpilldude6 years ago

In divorce, division of assets and alimony is based on what is equitable for both spouses. Also, both spouses are entitled to enjoy the same quality of life after the divorce. So, it is very common for the primary wage earner to have to pay a lot of money.

36 upvotesFloranHunter6 years ago

Also, both spouses are entitled to enjoy the same quality of life after the divorce

This is virtually impossible unless they were living well within their means since shared costs are massive savings. So in practice the woman's quality of life is maintained while the man lives in a tiny apartment, possibly with a roommate.

10 upvotesMightyskunk6 years ago

But I was fucking her once a week before the divorce...

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Of course extra compensation will be given unspoken to the woman, due to how our society portrays them. You wouldn't punish the poor innocent WOMAN would you?

1 upvotesworms_to_mooch_sex6 years ago

So what if you can prove their quality of life was only at x$? I.e. if you kept your assets separate? Then would huge splitting up of things like this be potentially avoided?

8 upvotesredpilldude6 years ago

In almost all states, assets acquired by either partner during the marriage are considered "community property." So, keeping assets separate wouldn't work. Pre-nuptial agreements can help somewhat, but those only cover assets that were acquired before the marriage begin.

2 upvotesrebuildingMyself6 years ago

If I had a business it would be in my parents' name. Would that be safe?

3 upvotesdale06076 years ago

Worth talking to a lawyer about this. Setting up trusts or LLC's might be an option as well to protect your assets.

2 upvotesredpilldude6 years ago

I don't know. If you're seriously considering getting married, it would be a good idea to talk with a lawyer about this question.

13 upvotespelag1us6 years ago

This really makes me want to never get married. Holy fuck.

5 upvotesmonsieurhire26 years ago

Perhaps this should be known as . . . "macrorape," or "omnirape," cause that's what he got right there. 120K a month for child support? WTF! Of course it has to be because the system gets to take a percentage.

8 upvotes • [deleted] • 6 years ago

The one bitch he couldn't tame.

9 upvotesrebuildingMyself6 years ago

He had no leverage over her. How could he effectively punish a person that can walk away at any time with half your shit plus bitch-support?

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50 upvotesClauderoughly6 years ago

Always get a prenuptial agreement...

Pre nups always get tossed when it benefits the man

Pre nups always get enforced when it benefits the woman.

13 upvotescobalt17286 years ago

true that, just don't tie the stupid ass knot! Why!? What advantage is there? lol

16 upvotesClauderoughly6 years ago

Some of us found a unicorn, and were smart enough not to get married in California.

Every nightmare, famous divorce, you hear about are in Cali and their marriage laws are fucking retarded.

There are many tax and immigration reasons to get married.

Not for everyone though.

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9 upvotesClauderoughly6 years ago

New York is one of the best.

3 upvotestrplurker1236 years ago

It's not where you get married, it's where you get divorced. You can get married with the "best" laws in regards to divorce, but if he/she gets that divorce in California and California has jurisdiction on you, good luck.

Maybe, if you're lucky you can get a pre-nup that requires that a divorce occur where you want it to be.

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2 upvotesLaughing_Jelly_Bean6 years ago

Oh? You found your Unicorn, did you?

1 upvotesClauderoughly6 years ago

Yes I did.

1 upvotesAerobus6 years ago

their marriage laws are fucking retarded.

Can you please explain how its worse? Former CA resident here who may move back.


1 upvotesbeepbeepwow6 years ago

What about Las Vegas?

-5 upvotesTotenglocke426 years ago

Some of us found a unicorn

I would love to see someone who thinks that get divorced so that I could laugh at his hubris.

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6 upvotes • [deleted] • 6 years ago

This isn't true.

Prenups aren't something you want to fuck around with- both parties along with legal council need to be involved in the process, and even still it can't basically be used to sign away your financial security. More often than not Prenups get thrown out because they were poorly written because they were written by bad (hint: cheap legal fees can mean you're getting a bad lawyer!) lawyers and / or done improperly. Both parties need to consent to it having been given legal council by their own lawyer.

......and don't get married in California. Don't live in California. Don't think of California.

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8 upvotes • [deleted] • 6 years ago

I live in Oregon.

I really wish the Californians would go home.

1 upvotesKnightsOfArgonia6 years ago

But Portland is awesome :(

3 upvotesMcMurphyCrazy6 years ago

So dumb we have to involve all of these assholes and pay them a ton of money to make up paperwork in a language only they understand. How about we just have one sheet of paper that says "hey if things don't work out, you don't get to take everything I own" with a judge as a witness. Both parties sign the paper with a video camera on them for proof, boom, done.

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Because English is a versatile langauge where words can have multiple meanings, and one sentence can have a wild number of intents.

People might hate lawyers but we need that kind of beaurocracy or else either the state or the individual would walk all over us.

I mean, can you imagine what, "hey, if things don't work out, you don't get to take everything I own?" would mean? They can't take 100% of your net worth. Ergo, they could take 99% of it.

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Yeah, these guys exaggerate. There was an AmA with a divorce lawyer a while back, and he said that in most cases it takes either poor execution or evidence of coercion by one party on the other to get it thrown out. He said the latter can usually be avoided by getting the prenup taken care of well in advance of the wedding. In any case, he said it was very rare.


0 upvotesEvolved_Red6 years ago

... I'm moving to LA from Australia in April..

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2 upvotes • [deleted] • 6 years ago

Thats not really true at all.

2 upvotesrebuildingMyself6 years ago

What if you transfer assets to your parents (before marriage)?

1 upvotesrebuildingMyself6 years ago

What if you transfer assets to your parents (before marriage)?

0 upvotesXCowboyLowkesx6 years ago

Pre nups always get tossed when it benefits the man.

Pre nups always get enforced when it benefits the woman.


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1 upvotesNemester6 years ago

I am not sure, but can a pre-nup cover a man's earnings after he is married? I am pretty sure you can't exempt post marriage earnings from her greedy hands.

12 upvotes303030303030306 years ago

She earned that money, didn't she?

Jesus Christ, that poor man. It's disgusting.

4 upvotes • [deleted] • 6 years ago

Misleading title. Cesar Millan is the dog whisperer, not his wife.

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1 upvotes • [deleted] • 6 years ago

Haha, I just pointed it out because I thought it might be confusing to those who don't know the show. The story is pretty fucking awful though. I can't imagine being taken to such a low point in my life by a selfish cunt, especially as such a successful guy.

12 upvoteshardwoodman6 years ago

Holy shit, $276,000 a year. That happening to me would drive me to suicide....

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19 upvotes • [deleted] • 6 years ago

Or do what that one guy did and turn your million dollar savings to gold. The claim that you "threw it away".

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11 upvotes • [deleted] • 6 years ago

Oooo good idea. Then just claim you were hacked and they are all gone.

2 upvotes • [deleted] • 6 years ago

Is this actually a feasible solution? How would one go about doing this?

10 upvoteselevul6 years ago

Considering my current economical situation, I'd just laugh. What are they gonna do, throw me in prison? Yay, free accomodation and food!

22 upvotesTotenglocke426 years ago

Fuck that, murder suicide would be a better solution. If you're going to be dead anyways, might as well make sure the cunt gets what she deserves too.

-5 upvotessushisection6 years ago

Might as well put your child out of his misery too while you are at it

4 upvotesTotenglocke426 years ago

What child? Get a vasectomy as soon as legally possible and avoid that nightmare.

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18 upvotesExactly_what_I_think6 years ago

Money is noting when you have it and everything when you don't.

1 upvotesNemester6 years ago

Though totenglocke has an interesting idea, I think fleeing the country and changing identities would be the best solution.

9 upvoteskamal4166 years ago

"Bitch, you wasn't with me shooting in the gym"

13 upvotes • [deleted] • 6 years ago

Can't blame him.

16 upvotesthelordofcheese6 years ago

Women are so oppressed, and all they want is to be treated equally.

3 upvotes • [deleted] • 6 years ago

I think the problem is not that he got married, but the unfair divorce laws. I am pretty sure in other countries women can't do that what they are allowed to do in USA. So the real solution would be to change the laws to be based on reality instead of feminist propaganda.

3 upvotesNetwinn5 years ago

What a cunt. Seriously.

3 upvoteswillyouswagme5 years ago

If you read his books, he talks about dropping his alpha male attitude towards and treating her like thw beautiful woman she is. This was before any of this happened.

TRP perfect example.

6 upvotesplopliar6 years ago

Looks like he didn't assert his dominance.

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2 upvotesfunnyfaceking6 years ago

He attempted suicide in May. She was awarded all that stuff in June.

2 upvotesiseeyou13126 years ago

For someone who knows a lot about dogs, they know nothing about bitches.

2 upvotesphilosarapter6 years ago

Monthly spousal support of $23,000?! Holy shit. I bet that's after taxes too. What kind of scam are they running in these court systems? Nobody deserves a quarter million dollars annually for child support. What child could possibly need that much money to survive?!

2 upvoteslawonga6 years ago

Given that he obviously doesn't give a shit about his life anymore, I'm surprised he didn't consider a hitman yet

1 upvotestissueroll6 years ago

...then got a dog and fought depression? Way to go Dog Whisperer!

1 upvotesStopher6 years ago

1.7 million a year because this relationship didn't work out. Jesus Christ!

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Known as a pre-nuptial agreement. The contract may be invalidated for any number of reasons, variable by state, so is possibly unreliable.

A pre-nup is usually for protecting pre-marital assets. A grey area exists in off-shoring assets acquired during the marriage. It's an expensive and probably risky option. Research: community property laws.

1 upvotesjquest236 years ago

Her name was Ilusión ... that was the first sign

1 upvotesgnovos6 years ago

What a dolt. Why not just relocate to Nicaragua and live like a god king for the rest of his life?

1 upvotesRollo-Tomassi6 years ago

Relevant: http://therationalmale.com/2014/01/08/possession/

1 upvotesstrangestdude6 years ago

In May 2010, after his dog Daddy died in February and his wife filed for divorce in March, Millan attempted suicide.

My heart broke for the guy.

I was in a similar situation...

Lost my job July 2012, August 2012 wife asked for divorce.

Don't get married guys, you can have a LTR without having a legally binding contract!

0 upvotesrenotime6 years ago

Wait, that dude is straight?

-1 upvotesotisofro6 years ago

My friend told me he plans to get engaged at the end of the year after I told him about the disadvantages of marriage.

He told me he trusts that the girl won't take him for all he's got and he trusts her.

I don't believe they'll even last through the engagement.




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2 upvotesDingDongSeven6 years ago

Methinks the suicide attempt

Methinks you should not speak of that topic anymore.

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5 upvotestheredpull6 years ago

Please don't tell me your serious? If you've ever watched any of his shows you'd know that he'd be the last person to ever be intentionally malicious on any dog, those clips are completely out of context and this dude has saved more dogs from being put down than literally anyone on this planet.

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