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[–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet 20 points21 points22 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Blue example for the girl, and a huge red pill example for the ex-boyfriend. From the OP:
He didn't give me much of a chance, though, and cheated on me for the 4th time
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me for the fourth time, Stockholm Syndrome.
cheated on me for the 4th time with a friend of mine
There's no loyalty among women when an alpha is the prize.
and dumped me when I confronted him about it.
Controlled the frame, you mean. He didn't even give you the satisfaction of your outrage.
The whole fiasco took less than 24 hours
Should we be calling Guinness Book?
I was blindsided. I had thought we were on our way to getting back together, but when he dumped me he said it had all been "just sex".
This man knows how to harness the power of the hamster wheel.
Classic case of an alpha junky getting strung back into her addiction by a pusher who knows the ropes.
[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
i swear my adrenaline's pumping after reading this
[–][deleted] 16 points17 points18 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Regardless of the bullshit story she's trying to push I still see this as her trying to trap the guy. If you read between the lines you realize her story is focused around a guy that doesn't really want to be with her and her inability to deal with it. She's trying to make him out to be the bad guy in all this by claiming he fucked up things in the past and that she feels like he's forcing her to get an abortion.
She most likely never started taking the new birth control and just didn't tell the guy. Instead of just admitting she wanted a kid, she just increased the likelihood of accidentally having a kid, this way she can still play victim. Her post is basically asking how "do I not get called out for trying to trap a guy and avoid feeling ashamed of myself" and the sad thing is people are sympathizing with her.
[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
getting knocked up is the #1 weapon to trap a guy, is never an accident with not so young women
[–]Staple_Stable 6 points7 points8 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That back story is basically irrelevant to whats currently happening. Imagine the dude is super nice and a good husband and has expressed he doesn't want children and both have agreed to it. Now she switches birth control methods without telling him and doesn't even take the pill how you're supposed to. Gets pregnant and wants to know what to do. I bet much more people say that its her fucking fault. This is because the back story as framing him as a douchebag is just there to sway emotion, not to add anything to the logic of the situation.
She banged her ex under false pretenses and now she's pregnant. She's just asking for validation on whether its ok to ruin his life. Everything in her post is leading me to believe that if she knew he would support her and raise the kid, she would 100% have it.
[–]MartialWay 5 points6 points7 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Her story about the Pill failing is extremely unlikely.
[–]Charlesthehamster6 points 10 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
Also, the suggestion is being thrown around to completely keep it from the father and go through with adoption. Fuck everything about this. I don't want my kid raised by strangers on her whim.
[–]AlwaysLateToThreads 6 points7 points8 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That's not happening. She's going to end up keeping the kid and sticking him with child support.
[–]Sword11 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I get so angry at these.
All I see is "Raa raa it's your choice"
And neglect to the fact that her choice somehow means a financial obligation to him for at least 18 years.
WTF... he doesn't want kids... She knows that.. So if she keeps it why is he obligated to pay (legally) when he has no say if she keeps it or aborts.
[–]TRP Vanguardss_camaro[S] 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
In the old days these types of kids were put up for adoption with no financial obligations to either parents; but she doesn't want that. She wants her cake and eat it too. This type of drama is 100% pure chick crack: the Nanny State beats the shit out of the father while she sits back, uses his child as a hostage, collects cash, prizes and as much strange as her snatch can handle.
[–]TRP Vanguardss_camaro[S] 10 points11 points12 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Should the OP be deleted:
My ex and I broke up "for good this time" in early April. It was a very bad break up, and it is a long story. We have been together on again off again for about 6 years. Things were great for the first four years but got rocky as time went by. Shortly afterward, I had my old copper IUD taken out. I had had it for 11 years, it was at least 1 year expired, and it was giving me some problems that are probably TMI. Getting a new IUD is painful, and not having a man around, I decided against a new one and instead opted for a version of the pill that would be effective in 48 hours, so I could prepare for a date on short notice if needed. Seemed like a great option for a single gal. In early May my ex came back around, and after some sweet-talking, we started dating and sleeping together again. I didn't tell him that I had switched birth control methods, although I was planning to have the talk with him soon (I know, I know. I fucked up big). He didn't give me much of a chance, though, and cheated on me for the 4th time with a friend of mine (she told me about it, he had lied about his relationship with me and she suspected him) and dumped me when I confronted him about it. The whole fiasco took less than 24 hours, I was blindsided. I had thought we were on our way to getting back together, but when he dumped me he said it had all been "just sex", even though he had NOT been up front about this, and he had been telling me he loved me and talking about our future together in a way that misled me. As if this wasn't devastating and confusing enough..... The day before this, I notice I haven't had a period in just over 6 weeks, and pee on stick, even though I thought it might be just the pill making me late. I hit a positive, and hit the floor crying. I don't think I missed a day with the pill, but I was kind of careless about taking it at the same time every day and that is my best guess as to how it happened. I feel like it is clearly my own fault that I got pregnant, I messed up somehow. As angry at him as I am, I feel a lot of guilt that I did not tell him I had switched methods. I try to tell myself that the pill (at 92-99%) is still more effective than condoms (85-95%) and that I was doing my best in good faith to prevent pregancy, but I still feel guilty and sure that he would be angry if I told him how I think it happened (so far he hasn't asked). I am adopted myself, have always been grateful that I was not aborted, and considered my birth mother brave and loving for having me, and even though I am pro-choice I have known I am against abortion for myself and have always been up front about this with everyone. I am not sure exactly where life begins, but I believe it is sometime early in pregnancy, even though I respect the right of other women to decide for themselves. I really don't want to get an abortion, and I think I would regret it for years to come. I don't want to be pregnant or give birth, but I refuse to let cowardice alone stop me from following my personal moral code. I am leaning towards choosing adoption, which for me is a decision I can be proud of. However, he's always been up front about the fact that he never wants kids, and he hasn't shown any sign of being supportive in any way (no calls, texts, etc.). I am sure he was assuming I still had the IUD. I have no idea if he would have wanted to wear a condom if I told him I was on the pill-- I think probably not, but I can not be sure. I am afraid to tell him I was on the pill, because I think he might accuse me of trying to "trap" him (which is stupid, because besides not wanting to be pregnant, at the time I would have conceived, I thought everything was hunky-dory) if only because that would be the easy way out for him. God this sucks. I don't want to trap him, I want him to disappear from my life and never come back-- but the thought of the accusation makes my face burn in shame. Is it wrong to give birth to a child against his will, knowing I did not give him a "fair" chance to assess the risk of pregnancy? Do I have a moral obligation to get an aboriton? Is such a thing possible? Even though he has been a dishonest user and creep? I am so confused. tl;dr: Messed around with ex bf thinking we were getting back together. Didn't tell him I had switched from the IUD to the pill, and somehow ended up knocked up. I am adopted and do no want an abortion, but I feel like I "owe" it to him, based on the way I conceived. Is such a thing possible?
My ex and I broke up "for good this time" in early April. It was a very bad break up, and it is a long story. We have been together on again off again for about 6 years. Things were great for the first four years but got rocky as time went by.
Shortly afterward, I had my old copper IUD taken out. I had had it for 11 years, it was at least 1 year expired, and it was giving me some problems that are probably TMI. Getting a new IUD is painful, and not having a man around, I decided against a new one and instead opted for a version of the pill that would be effective in 48 hours, so I could prepare for a date on short notice if needed. Seemed like a great option for a single gal. In early May my ex came back around, and after some sweet-talking, we started dating and sleeping together again. I didn't tell him that I had switched birth control methods, although I was planning to have the talk with him soon (I know, I know. I fucked up big).
He didn't give me much of a chance, though, and cheated on me for the 4th time with a friend of mine (she told me about it, he had lied about his relationship with me and she suspected him) and dumped me when I confronted him about it. The whole fiasco took less than 24 hours, I was blindsided. I had thought we were on our way to getting back together, but when he dumped me he said it had all been "just sex", even though he had NOT been up front about this, and he had been telling me he loved me and talking about our future together in a way that misled me. As if this wasn't devastating and confusing enough.....
The day before this, I notice I haven't had a period in just over 6 weeks, and pee on stick, even though I thought it might be just the pill making me late. I hit a positive, and hit the floor crying. I don't think I missed a day with the pill, but I was kind of careless about taking it at the same time every day and that is my best guess as to how it happened. I feel like it is clearly my own fault that I got pregnant, I messed up somehow. As angry at him as I am, I feel a lot of guilt that I did not tell him I had switched methods. I try to tell myself that the pill (at 92-99%) is still more effective than condoms (85-95%) and that I was doing my best in good faith to prevent pregancy, but I still feel guilty and sure that he would be angry if I told him how I think it happened (so far he hasn't asked).
I am adopted myself, have always been grateful that I was not aborted, and considered my birth mother brave and loving for having me, and even though I am pro-choice I have known I am against abortion for myself and have always been up front about this with everyone. I am not sure exactly where life begins, but I believe it is sometime early in pregnancy, even though I respect the right of other women to decide for themselves. I really don't want to get an abortion, and I think I would regret it for years to come. I don't want to be pregnant or give birth, but I refuse to let cowardice alone stop me from following my personal moral code. I am leaning towards choosing adoption, which for me is a decision I can be proud of.
However, he's always been up front about the fact that he never wants kids, and he hasn't shown any sign of being supportive in any way (no calls, texts, etc.). I am sure he was assuming I still had the IUD. I have no idea if he would have wanted to wear a condom if I told him I was on the pill-- I think probably not, but I can not be sure. I am afraid to tell him I was on the pill, because I think he might accuse me of trying to "trap" him (which is stupid, because besides not wanting to be pregnant, at the time I would have conceived, I thought everything was hunky-dory) if only because that would be the easy way out for him. God this sucks. I don't want to trap him, I want him to disappear from my life and never come back-- but the thought of the accusation makes my face burn in shame.
Is it wrong to give birth to a child against his will, knowing I did not give him a "fair" chance to assess the risk of pregnancy? Do I have a moral obligation to get an aboriton? Is such a thing possible? Even though he has been a dishonest user and creep? I am so confused.
tl;dr: Messed around with ex bf thinking we were getting back together. Didn't tell him I had switched from the IUD to the pill, and somehow ended up knocked up. I am adopted and do no want an abortion, but I feel like I "owe" it to him, based on the way I conceived. Is such a thing possible?
[–]TRP Vanguardss_camaro[S] 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
OP has since been deleted. Did anyone else catch the irony of her throwaway? "nomoneymoproblemsfml" -- LOL.
Keep the daily dose of red pills high, gents. It's better than quinine in the malarial swamps of modern 'gender relations!'
[–]wrongful_ignorance 6 points7 points8 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
we started dating and sleeping together again. I didn't tell him that I had switched birth control methods.
The guilt she feels is warranted considering the situation, by not divulging critical changes to the birth control she alone administers, she blatantly mislead someone who holds an expectation of the previously implied sexual agreement.
In my mind the reverse situation, is the guy taking the condom off and choosing to use the withdrawal method mid-fuck without her knowing.
[–]braveathee -2 points-1 points0 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"previously implied sexual agreement" was two months ago. It is not comparable to your "mid fuck" example.
[–]l337m4n 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"Your body, your choice, his wallet."
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