Why do marriages fail although women SMV declines?

FixYourselfFirst · 2019-05-01T16:58:52+00:00

According to Rollo man's SMV goes through the roof right when marriages start to fail (mid to late 30s)

Your SMV doesn't automatically rise as you age. Look at all the dad bods out there. Many married men let their SMV slowly decay, then wonder why their wife no longer gives unsolicited BJs.

Your potential SMV rises in your 30's. But you have to put in the work, diet, lifting, etc. Having the body of an athletic 20yo with the maturity of a 30yo is what gives you the high SMV.

VasiliyZaitzev · 2019-05-01T18:03:29+00:00

A. Guys anesthetize themselves with SportsBall and Beer, and become Jabba the Hutt.

B. Women are delusional about their own SMV - I know a guy whose wife left him (she was a "wound collector") and, while she stayed slender and kept what there was of her figure she quickly found out she was a 43 year-old single mom of 3 kids, not a 22 y.o. hottie.

All I know is, if I get tired of a girl or she gets tired of me, I get to keep ALL of my stuff, and my salary and don't wind up paying 40% of my gross to an ex-wife so she can fuck other guys and teach my kids to hate me. #WINNING.

kingofclubsmorde · 2019-05-01T16:51:35+00:00

Main reasons would be between or a combination of incompatability or loss of attraction (because of men losing their frame, men losing their identity to cater to their women, women wanting a more desirable man (hypergamy), shes not ready to settle down, and both parties becoming too comfortable and routine (dead bedroom).

Divorce rates are higher than ever because the system is rigged, against men and favored towards women. It allows women to divorce easier because she gets 50% money back and potential alimony. If women didn't have these benefits from divorce, they wouldn't seek for a divorce as easily.

leftajar · 2019-05-01T20:11:34+00:00

Marriage, frankly, is boring. After the rush of sex chemicals wears off, you're left with someone who shits, picks their nose, and talks about boring shit. It takes actual effort and a positive attitude to get along with the same person for the rest of your life.

But... she doesn't have to. Divorce Inc. is happy to coerce half your assets to maintain your wife's lifestyle if she gets bored of you.

If alimony/child support didn't exist, divorce would be rare.

One_time_back_when · 2019-05-01T16:49:52+00:00

Most women, if marginally attractive, can always find a guy

FlyingSexistPig · 2019-05-01T17:05:48+00:00

Women remember when they could get the hottest guys to fuck them. The cock carousel was a fun ride.

They don't know that they don't have a ticket to ride any more. And literally everyone tells them they are hot (except for those hottest guys).

Yashugan00 · 2019-05-01T18:49:17+00:00

Booster rockets.

Women use men like booster rockets. They marry up to be in a higher social bracket . Then as they rise they get used to that level of comfort and invariably become unsatisfied about minor things and the nagging starts. What actually happens is that when you give a woman everything and she feels safe, her biology is kicking her to make one more try at diversifying her offspring (because her life and offspring are not at risk). Because women's attraction drive is for higher social status males (relative to her current one) she'll try to ride the next rocket upwards.

Were women often fail is that they miscalculate and confuse sex with a man for his commitment. Often, she can't trade these two things as readily as she used to. Guy sees her either as a fun ride and doesn't commit, or she become unhappy with that guy too and the relationshi(t)p breaks down a year or so later.

Most women are at that point miserable but put on a brave face and convince their married lady friends about how wonderful their live are. To the point that if one women divorces, you see a chain reaction in divorces)

LordFa9 · 2019-05-01T16:59:30+00:00

Multiple theories, some of the more popular ones are:

Women have a natural predisposition against long term monogamy

Husbands become plough horses and get boring AF

Hypergamy needs to be optimized, and doesnt care about flimsy promises like "till death do us part"

empatheticapathetic · 2019-05-01T17:04:38+00:00

Women don’t act logically, they act emotionally.

Don_Draper27 · 2019-05-01T17:48:19+00:00

Because the quality of men and their frame is also declining.

Also, divorce is shuned upon much less or even suggested by more people in today's society.

DubbleFUPAwitCheez · 2019-05-01T18:08:19+00:00

To put it concisely, the beta backslide.

Narcissist456 · 2019-05-01T19:12:13+00:00

CASH AND PRIZES, DUH.

omega_dawg93 · 2019-05-01T20:01:06+00:00

lol.

the real answer: divorce laws and child custody laws.

[deleted] · 2019-05-01T20:11:38+00:00

Esther Perel has a pretty good handle on the different things that can go wrong.

The main cause of divorce is time. Just like any hobby, your marriage can be life long or it can be fleeting. Some people give up and change hobbies, others stick with it. Finding two people who stick with the same hobby requires a massive amount of attention to detail and caring by both parties. It can be very very hard to maintain the longer it goes on.

You don't trick them, you manage yourself and them as a team and they do the same to you.

SeasonedRP · 2019-05-01T21:10:32+00:00

Social media has many drawbacks. An entertaining aspect of it, however, is that it allows you to observe how delusional women are, especially those in their late 30s to early 50s. Deep down they are very bothered that they don't turn heads like they used to. But they just can't accept that things aren't like they were when they were in their teens and 20s--when men flocked to them. They delusionally believe they still have this effect on men. When you see a woman in her late 40s constantly posting about how some young guy talked to her or checked her out at the grocery store, you'll see what I'm talking about.

This delusion, plus the unlimited supply of thirsty betas who provide validation, can lead to them divorcing their husbands when they are in their mid to late 30s. In general, it doesn't work out for them the way they think it will, and they get desperate to land a new man.

escapethesolarsystem · 2019-05-01T23:17:04+00:00

I think #3 is a huge factor in most western developed countries, and I would add a 3.5 to this which is: society's acceptance of (especially female initiated) divorce gives them an emotional and social "safety net" they don't deserve and shouldn't really have.

This whole issue of divorce is strongly linked to socialization and societies. If you look at countries that don't have strong social safety nets and / or hold a negative view of divorce, the rate of divorce, especially female initiated, is much, much lower. There are many countries outside the west where a women will happily stay with a repeat cheater husband (not a fan of repeat cheater husbands, to be clear, it's really low-class douche behavior - you make a promise you should fucking keep it) as long as he provides for her and her kids. In these countries (where women have not been infected with feminism and toxic ego-inflating lies about their looks and attractiveness) women know exactly what the score is when she's 45 and had two kids, and she's not going to give up stability and protection for the uncertainty and poverty of being post-wall and single.

adeptintact · 2019-05-01T19:38:23+00:00

I initiated my divorce because I was tired of her. I think there's a good portion of men like me that do this.

Flintblood · 2019-05-01T22:34:50+00:00

Women initiate most divorces in the US. I’d guess that if you looked at the age of females filing for divorce most would be under 40. If you looked at that group over the past 20 years, you would find that their reasons or lack of reasons for divorce differs from that of past generations and that of women who are currently 50+.

Women approaching 40 are at the wall or just past the wall, but not so far out that they don’t think they can do better elsewhere.

HurricaneHugues · 2019-05-02T02:01:07+00:00

Because most men have a beta mindset. They let themselves go, become duplicating to their wives, lose their assertiveness, stop dokg the things that made them fun and interesting, sit in a probider mindset, and overall accept the bullshit intersexual dynamic that society tells them to follow.

Whereas women are always hip to the game. Even a sloppy married 5 can still pull a Chad looking dude who's desperate for pussy.

Auvergnat · 2019-05-02T06:56:59+00:00

Alpha fucks; Beta bucks.

Women marry a dependable but unattractive beta when in their epiphany phase, and after years of marriage and that beta side of hypergamy well fulfilled (stability, kids, dependable partner), women start re-prioritising the need for alpha tingles.

Rollo called that the "alpha re-interest" phase and is explained in detail in his second book, the whole of which is a much more thorough model of intersexual dynamics than just reading that SMV graph, which is nothing but a comparison-of-average-potential-value-between-the-two-sexes.

That being said, the rate of divorce is much lower than what it would be if ALL women were to pull the trigger on their relationship as a consequence of their boredom and alpha-reinterest-phase. The reason it's not much much higher is that older women are very conscious of their much-lowered SMV.

MattyAnon · 2019-05-02T16:54:25+00:00

Why do marriages fail although women SMV declines?

Divorce is profitable for women.

She gets half of everything, and all the house. And alimony. And child support if there's kids. Legal fees on both sides paid for by the husband.

She gets full and complete spousal support, now and for the future, and she can fuck who she likes. No more boring monogamy.

When you realise this, it's amazing there any women who don't get divorced.

Women do not actually notice their declining SMV in the way you think they would. They cannot rationally process this information, instead they'll shriek "that's sexist!" or "older women are attractive too!" and all the rest of it. She replaces value with entitlement and carries on with all her previous expectations and more.

truthbomb999 · 2019-05-02T00:05:33+00:00

Many women overvalue themselves and have never had to work to get a guy. Women THINK their SMV is like it was when they were in their 20s, but they get back on the dating market and get hit with a rude awakening

Flintblood · 2019-05-01T20:42:02+00:00

Because the wall is a myth created by trp and women in their 30s and 40s are still bangable

xoxuv · 2019-05-07T10:23:05+00:00

Because game and understanding women's nature is more important than everything else.

Without it, women reject you.

Danwphoto · 2019-05-02T06:20:22+00:00

What is SMV?

TheLongerCon · 2019-05-02T03:21:07+00:00

The risk of the divorce is dramatically overstated on TRP, for college educated couples it’s around 16 percent.

Most divorces are due to financial reasons, which is why uneducated people struggle, and are starting to not even get married.

Anyways, the bigger risk of marriage is a women cheating on you or treating your poorly. The reason that happens is because she gets bored.

jenovajunkie · 2019-05-01T21:58:35+00:00

Reasons for women divorcing men?

You've become a shitty person. Most men are dumb, sorry to say; but you're mostly fucking idiots.

Title	Why do marriages fail although women SMV declines?
Author	urbanfoh
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Date	01 May 2019 04:44 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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