Men who leave after learning their kids aren't theirs aren't doing anything wrong, in u/unpopularopinion

Inuyashaswrath · 2019-04-28T22:36:49+00:00

Unpopular opinion has lately become just common sense opinions that are frowned upon in clown world.

TheTrenTrannyTrain · 2019-04-28T19:29:37+00:00

It's funny to see some of the most upvoted responses are coming from men who don't want to be the plow horse of a cheating woman and her bastard child, and the name calling, male shaming responses from what I'd guess are cheating women/male feminists.

I'd reason that men are slowly waking up and smelling the coffee, and starting to understand that marriage in the traditional sense has all the risks and none of the rewards. Going through the posts, there are often bleeding hearts who attempted to shame men with "What about the kids? You're not a man if you abandon an innocent child" shaming. But these attempts are downvoteed to oblivion because if it's anyone's fault, it's the cheating women's fault who tried to cover up her infidelity.

themanbat · 2019-04-28T23:49:42+00:00

If you made paternity testing mandatory during a divorce, the divorce rate would plummet. Sadly for the wrong reasons though.

rebuildingMyself · 2019-04-29T13:40:56+00:00

Want to see a hamster explode? Tell your gf that you'll have any child of yours paternity tested before signing any paperwork. My last gf flipped her shit and tried to make it as personal as possible (I don't trust her????). Sorry I'm taking one of your "cards" away, sweetheart, but if I'm going to be a genetic dead-end, it will be as a single guy doing whatever the fuck he wants. If I'm going to put in the work to raise a child, it will be my child.

Tzuede · 2019-04-28T21:18:11+00:00

Why would any sane Man accept being pre-cucked by a previous marriage. Or accept an affair and results of her sin?

Was he supposed to stay if she game him a STD? Because it seems people are crazy that way.

jenovajunkie · 2019-04-28T21:47:14+00:00

I am a bleeding heart, in the sense that I believe in marriage and always have. But I also believe that people are likely stupid, and bitches be hoes.

I don't and wouldn't blame a man for raising kids that he believed to be his, but werent and then leaving that marriage. Women don't understand that because they will always be the mother of the child they are carrying. It's only when a woman loses that ability to have kids, that she may understand how men would feel.

User-31f64a4e · 2019-04-29T09:30:56+00:00

The word for being fooled into raising another man's offspring is "cuckold".

I am given to understand that in some of the less salutary corners of the internet that word has other meanings but this is the original one, as found e.g. in the works of Shakespeare.

That, by the way, is significant. Back in the day, honest discussion of things was possible (despite blasphemy laws); now, break with the narrative and feel the wrath of the SJWs.

Bruchibre · 2019-04-29T03:16:49+00:00

I hate it when these dumbards come with non arguments. Men who leave after learning their kids aren't theirs aren't doing anything wrong. But if you have raised a kid for year you love him and can't abandon him. So what????!?!?! If you did you wouldn't do anything wrong.

Spicychickenaholic · 2019-04-29T01:43:52+00:00

The one today in twoxchromosomes had a lot more shaming in it. Some even calling it child abuse. http://archive.is/tuIfo

theyreallinonit2 · 2019-04-29T12:03:52+00:00

FYI, if your aussie or a kiwi, use outline.com to view this archive.is link, copy the link and paste it on the url box on the outline website and viola you no longer have a fascist government telling you how to think.

Hjalmbere · 2019-04-29T14:36:00+00:00

Wifing up a single mom is bad enough, but at least guys who do that are making a conscious decision. That being said, any man who doesn’t walk away from a relationship where he’s been the victim of paternity fraud isn’t right in the head. Yes, it’s bad for the kids, but guess what? The woman is to blame.

maljo24 · 2019-04-29T12:32:18+00:00

I would not blame him for leaving but I would stay. Those kids are mine emotionally if not biologically.

Herdsengineers · 2019-04-30T14:43:15+00:00

Personally, I'm a loving person, and after forming a paternal relationship with a child I thought was mine but wasn't, I'd still love the child. It's not something I could turn off. I might stay for the child's sake, however, the cheating wife would relegated to the role of my live in housekeeper and babysitter. If she didn't like it, she could leave and take the kid with her.

JMHO, but if you want to encourage men to not abandon the child in this situation, who really is an innocent and likely just as devastated by a revelation like this as I am, change the law to allow the father that's been deceived by paternity fraud to hit the bio father for child support once the genetics are established, and allow the father to divorce the mother, get all the marital assets, kick the cheating whore out, and maintain custody of the kid at his discretion. Then impose a nice child support order on the cheating mother.

Will never happen, the only people made to be accountable for anything these days are those with the drive to do the work to start with. 80/20 rule in action on macro-society scale.

TheImpossible1 · 2019-04-29T01:51:02+00:00

I'm disappointed my comment about female in-group bias didn't make the archive.

Aeiexgjhyoun_III · 2019-04-28T23:04:30+00:00

Ant man in such a situation should definitely leave the woman. The child isn't at fault though, don't punish the kid for the mum's betrayal.

Seagram7 · 2019-04-30T03:13:36+00:00

"It doesn't matter you are not the biological father," it takes a real man to raise a kid," and all the other tired cliches we all have heard. These women never think it through to what it will do to the kid.

Ask these same hamster women if your baby was switched at birth at the hospital and the melt down ensued. "THAT'S That's different!"

I saw a news special over ten years ago where they stuck a camera in the face of some poor kid while he sadly told the story of how his Daddy who he loves very much found out he wasn't his bio dad and disappeared off the face of the planet and his life. This was way before TRP and MGTOW, but you could see the angle the producers were playing. They were trying to shame cucks and make them stick around and keep paying.

But that poor kid. I still remember that hurt on his face.

Plague-Lord · 2019-04-30T03:20:57+00:00

That kind of a long con should be a criminal offense, like jail time for the mother for committing to such a life-shattering lie and potentially ruining the man's life.

archaic-guy · 2019-04-30T07:58:57+00:00

talking about a clown world in spain if you don´t reclaim within a year to see if the kid is yours then the judicial system will assume you have legally accepted cuckholdry unless you manage to prove that you didnt knew it until X time wich is difficult as fuck.

EdmondDaunts · 2019-04-29T08:52:39+00:00

Even though genetic proliferation is the first strategy, you can also pass on knowledge and legacy. In fact there is no guarantee your kids won’t be unsuccessful in life.

If you can’t have kids you can adopt and do your best.

The issue here is that these kids lose a father irrespective of biology because of a lying mother.

How do these men get compensated?

Tax amnesty? Full custody? It’s an interesting question.

TeslaApe · 2019-04-29T08:07:55+00:00

Christian and Islamic marriage laws exist so that, ideally, there will be no children born of uncertain parentage. E.g. in Islam, the man can undo his Islamic marriage with a sentence, but the woman has to wait three months before being in private with a different, unrelated, man. If she misses her period during that time they are supposed to negotiate.

Some women love these rules and the structure they provide, others moan about how oppressive they are vs the woman's sexual freedom, No doubt they will be as vociferous or more so at the thought of mandatory DNA testing, which works toward the same goal (no uncertain paternity). More so because it is more difficult to cheat a set of DNA tests.

Even if they legislate that dudes must provide for their marital offspring regardless of paternity, it's jgoing to result in half-*ssed dedication to the role of father. Just saying no and moving on is entirely reasonable if the man chooses that path.

TL;DR: DNA testing will trigger the same women who are triggered by religious rules regarding fidelity.

Blackphish88 · 2019-05-05T00:00:45+00:00

Its sad this is even a debate. No one should be held responsible for DNA that isn't theirs.

masszealots · 2019-04-29T07:21:27+00:00

This is not an unpopular opinion lol. It's just reddit

cheeseburgerhandy · 2019-04-29T10:18:37+00:00

I understand the reasoning behind posting an archive.is link but please also link the actual address in the comments or something. That website is the worst, especially on mobile.

TheRedPillRipper · 2019-04-28T21:14:26+00:00

completely the mother's fault

If ever you find yourself in this situation; it is completely your own fault.

Don't blame womyn for being womyn. Just keep your head up and your eyes open.

Godspeed and good luck!

Standard_Nebula · 2019-04-28T23:47:25+00:00

UnpopularOpinion - Paternity Testing Without The Mother's Consent SHOULD BE ILLEGAL

It has to be. Society would crumble. This law is ultimately good. Even from a genetic perspective it's good. We have the most capable men, who can raise good/moral uptight children doing just that. We also have the strongest, healthiest children being born. It's really a win/win.

IS IT MORAL?! No.

But it's better than single mothers. That's what is the alternative. Single mothers. Because attraction is not a choice. Not many women are Catholic. You will have a high percentage of cheating in the unbelievers. It's far lower, not non-existent but lower, in Catholics. You can't expect that from the free-thinking, morally relativistic, neo-sexualistic, polyamorous lot of people. They have shown to be unreliable in upholding any type of moral decency or standard of behavior in their own culture. You can't just let them stop raising kids also.

This is a necessary law.

Title	Men who leave after learning their kids aren't theirs aren't doing anything wrong, in u/unpopularopinion
Author	TheTrenTrannyTrain
Upvotes	603
Comments	130
Date	April 28, 2019 7:29 PM UTC (4 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/TheRedPill
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