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Do women challenge men who act dominant?

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bare_et_spoergsmaal
May 10, 2019
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I was talking with this feminist, and she basically barraged me with personal questions after I stated my interest in her.

This could be an ioi, but she said stuff "both people should make decisions in a relationship".

Could this be a shit test from her, even if she's feminist? Part of me believes that she wants to be able to talk about equality, but instinctively she wants someone to dominate her.


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Title Do women challenge men who act dominant?
Author bare_et_spoergsmaal
Upvotes 70
Comments 62
Date 10 May 2019 06:54 AM UTC (1 year ago)
Subreddit askTRP
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/237819
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/asktrp/comments/bmv2r9/do_women_challenge_men_who_act_dominant/
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[–]TheStumblingWolf99 points100 points  (22 children) | Copy

Act according to her actions, not her words. In my experience even the most independent woman wants an even more independent man to take the lead.

[–]markyp123415 points16 points  (21 children) | Copy

What the fuck is an “even more independant” man?

[–][deleted] 169 points170 points  (16 children) | Copy

The way your dad left in his corvette and never came back, for example

[–]LordLoveRocket0038 points39 points  (0 children) | Copy

Fuckin splitting my sides here pal

[–]iamRRading31 points32 points  (1 child) | Copy

Man, that's an uppercut. No comeback!

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy

FATALITY!

[–]FlashAttack6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Good lord something that savage should be illegal

[–]tefllifestyle5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Hahahaha laughing my ass. ..goood one

[–]zxcvb78092 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

HEAD SHOT!

[–]TheStumblingWolf4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

You know how some women are like "I don't need no man", make a bunch of money and are generally self sufficient? Seems to me they actually do need a man, and one who can put them in their place. They just don't want to admit it to themselves.

[–]hrm08942 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'm assuming he means someone with more money and knowledge that knows how to lead.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Valid objection. Yes wth does that mean

[–]LarsleDarsle102 points103 points  (5 children) | Copy

I am of the impression that those bitchy feminist types can't get enough of extremely dominant men. Like purely dominant men.

[–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen49 points50 points  (0 children) | Copy

your impression does not betray you

[–]donkeydodo10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

The most aggressive feminists are the ones who loves getting beaten in bed the most

[–]patacsiipse8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

Sometimes deep down it makes me kinda sad how primitive they really are

[–]omega_dawg934 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

this is true.

i had one like this years ago. the conversation started just like that but two weeks later, she was saying, ”I’ll sit on the floor so you can REALLY fuck my face hard.”

don't pay attention to what they say.

[–]TheTrenTrannyTrain42 points43 points  (2 children) | Copy

Feminists are the worst shit testers.

Women all shit test, they want to see if you're real alpha, or a beta pretending to be one.

[–]Azora14 points15 points  (1 child) | Copy

Feminism itself is a cultural shit test.

[–]Project_Zero_Betas4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

LMFAO

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev38 points39 points  (2 children) | Copy

Submission is central to the female experience, and feministas are no exception. I used to bang a feminist university professor who, while she was all "Loud and Proud" at work, was a submissive little kitten for me at home. I would tie her up, make her beg for the D and then say, "Imagine what your colleagues would say if they knew what a little FRAUD you are?" - then I'd watch the frisson of pleasure ripple through her.

Your vibe should be "mildly sexist". Deflect her shit tests, tell her "Your so pretty when you're angry" etc.

Here's what you need to know:

Uncle Vasya’s Guide to Submissive Women

-How to lead when she wants to follow.

Here's how to dominate her in the bedroom when that time comes:

Of Human Bondage – Uncle Vasya’s Guide for Men Who Like To Tie Up Young Ladies.

-The Field Guide to playing knotty games with naughty girls.

Of Human Bondage, Part II: Slave Girls Are Fun

-When Life Sends You a Slave Girl, Put a Collar on Her.

Be Her Darkest Sexual Chapter

-How Alpha Widows Are Born

[–]SLICKlikeBUTTA5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Pretty much make her feel like the woman she is. Girls love to feel like girl in a MANS presence. All you need to do is read this guy's advice above of me and make sure you own it. She doesn't give a fuck about anything. She just wants to feel like a woman and not get creeped out.

[–]Project_Zero_Betas-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

I used to bang a feminist university professor who, while she was all "Loud and Proud" at work, was a submissive little kitten for me at home. I would tie her up, make her beg for the D and then say, "Imagine what your colleagues would say if they knew what a little FRAUD you are?" - then I'd watch the frisson of pleasure ripple through her.

But are these things mutually exclusive? Feminism means treating the genders equally, it may not necessarily apply to sexual kinks with your romantic partner, no?

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon19 points20 points  (1 child) | Copy

feminist

No. Run fast, run far. She'll be a fucking nightmare.

Don't believe anything these people say.

Part of me believes that she wants to be able to talk about equality,

hahaha equality.

Feminism is a female-primary social movement, enabled by gullible white knights. She doesn't want equality, she wants special treatment.

Don't fall for the bullshit that makes you think she's worth dating or will behave reasonably or has any belief at all in "equality". She doesn't. She wants special treatment, and feminism has made her believe she's entitled to it.

Run fast, run far. There are better girls out there.

[–]WTFhlostonParadise1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

This.

[–]Senior ContributorSkorchZang28 points29 points  (4 children) | Copy

Of course cunty feminist women will challenge every dominant act. They're primed to do just that by all their upbringing and the brainwashing they go through, and to some extent, it's also natural for them.

Act like you're falling asleep when she starts out with the feminism. Cheeky and effective. The key is to not engage in any debates with her, be above it.

Now and then, seemingly out of the blue, throw in a terse nugget for her hamster to chew on, like "Equality is a false god."

No explanations, you aren't trying to look smart. You simply say things that shock her and she does not quite know what to make of.

Making the girl pester you to explain yourself to her is a good dominant dynamic to cultivate (as long as you never do explain yourself).

[–]bare_et_spoergsmaal 1 points [recovered]  (3 children) | Copy

Making the girl pester you to explain yourself to her is a good dominant dynamic to cultivate (as long as you never do explain yourself).

I don't quite understand what you mean in this sentence. Can you simplify it to me?

And I have no attraction towards feminist women. They're not worth my time and effort. I'd rather find one who is submissive.

[–]Senior ContributorSkorchZang19 points20 points  (1 child) | Copy

See how you replied to clarify what I meant when I said that?

If you were a girl, I would probably not clarify it, at my discretion. Instead I might cultivate more confusion in her head on purpose, so she doesn't quite know where I stand. This is exciting to women.

The act of her asking me to clarify, no matter how cunty she phrases it, is inherently submissive on her part. But I would immediately lose ground as soon as I begin actually sperging out and explaining myself to a woman, justifying my positions, and essentially asking her to approve my moral choices.

And I have no attraction towards feminist women. They're not worth my time and effort. I'd rather find one who is submissive and have a real feminine nature.

Tell her that to her face in a deadpan way, and her panties will get moist with feminist rage.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

I’ve realised a lot of feminists are extremely submissive if you get past all the bullshit shit tests, it’s a strikingly strange illogical position for them to take at first, but it’s justified as empowering if she’s got the attraction.

But yea up until I realised the feminist thing is nothing but a bunch of shit tests, I used to instant hard NEXT any girl that identified as a feminist.

I still disagree with anyone who militant sticks to a group without weighing up both sides of an argument with a level head... and that certainly includes feminists, but I like that they leave their feminist bullshit at the door when it comes to the bedroom

[–]OhBittenicht8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

Dated an ardent feminist, one of her sexual fantasies was to be handcuffed. Take from that what you will.

[–]Atheist_Utopia1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

lol

[–]genital-love5 points6 points  (3 children) | Copy

Stop telling girls you're interested in them. Girls are perceptive, they'll know by how you talk to them. Flirt then ask them out.

[–]bilabrin0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

I disagree, a direct approach sets frame, shows confidence and unless she out right rejects him that unbroken frame stands and puts him in a good position.

You can never be perceived as creepy if you make your intentions clear.

[–]genital-love0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

direct is good for beginners

[–]Yourify-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

You can never be perceived as creepy if you make your intentions clear.

Well yes but actually no.

[–]Bored5 points6 points  (4 children) | Copy

Sounds like she wanted validation from you.

[–]bare_et_spoergsmaal 1 points [recovered]  (3 children) | Copy

And is that good or bad?

[–]Bored0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

What's your goal

[–]bare_et_spoergsmaal 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

My goal was to sleep with her.

I don't speak with her anymore as I don't care much about feminist women. But lets say my goal is the same.

[–]Bored3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

It depends on how much her self esteem is wrapped in her worldview. Defense mechanisms may prevent her from acknowledging her attraction to you.

[–]archaic-guy2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Woman shit test acording to how insecure they feel.

[–]wheresMYsteakAt1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Should have laughed and told her you agree. Afterall this isn't shareya law or rkellys basement.

And yeah it's a shittest, otherwise she wouldn't even be talking to you.

[–]omega_dawg931 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

they hate rkelly's basement... but only because he didn't invite them back.

[–]bilabrin1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

It seems like she was "Screening you. Maybe not but to be sure, next time, try leading her.

Interrupt her and say "Listen, I'm enjoying this conversation but this scene is getting stale, what do you say we head over to (local nearby spot) and continue the discussion over there?"

That's called "moving her" and if she goes along it's a good sign that you can lead the Interaction to a more private location later with a comment like "why don't we go somewhere a little quieter for a night cap."

If she doesn't go along then she's not into you and you move forward accordingly.

Also, more to your point about her questioning you,when I feel like she's asking too much or screening me hard I like to say playfully "I'd tell you but then it wouldn't be a mystery."

[–]RuleTheOne0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I like this approach, because I hate small talking girls. I feel like I need to usher us into a brief activity to maintain interest.

[–]ChadTheWaiter1000 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

If you had to ask this question, indicating that you didn’t fuck her, then she probably isn’t interested or you fucked up the shit test meaning she isn’t interested anymore.

[–]Microman6660 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Yeah everyone me idgaf if they do i just do me

[–]Velebit0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

From my experience, yes, they will challenge you. Just another shit test usually.

'Are you mansplaining how female genitals work to me, a woman?'

'Well considering the cobwebs you got there, I am doing you a favor' with a big grin

Used this one.

However if you are getting one line repeated over and over to the point it is annoying you. Then you have to address that issue with a meaningful conversation. These women usually have very little trust in men and one and same issue arising frequently is where you actually have to treat is as a comfort test and sincerely talk about what is bothering her.

I had a feminist completely unable to agree with me and would use some word games to avoid saying I am right. So I talked about it directly and asked does she avoid that with her friends, oh so nope, but you ask from me to be consistent as with men so with women... well you are being a naughty girl not following your own rules... we have to make up for this travesty bla bla.

Make sure you do not show too much reliance on her emotionally though, feminist women just want less empty posturing from men and can see through rookie bullshit most men can usually get away with.

[–]alittletoosmooth0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Don't let a little feminist talk scare you away. A lot of girls have been trained to say/act that way by society. Many of them don't actually want a lot of the shit the feminist "movement" calls for. They'd be much happier staying at home watching the children, etc.

[–]BigDickEnergy1230 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

With my girlfriend, no. Sometimes she does, but if you don't put up with shit tests or are unbothered she becomes more afraid to lose you than to challenge you.

[–]1DubbleFUPAwitCheez0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Feminists need a bold approach. If she said that to me I would respond, alright but I decide when you get to decide. Delivered with a am I serious? type of tone. Chances are she'll crack a smile but she also might get an attitude but making a chick mad has never been a deal breaker, it's indifference that's the killer.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Sure they do. Especially feminist types.

If she said that to me I'd be slowing her down. Tell her being in a relationship takes time and understanding. I dont dive into relationships with strangers. That's kid stuff

[–]escapethesolarsystem0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

She wants to be dominated. One of the most hilarious things I notice is when you watch "dude wrecks feminist" videos on YouTube, you can actually see the psychological contradiction take hold of a feminist when a man argues with her. On the one hand "he's an evil misogynist / racist / whatever", on the other hand she gets increasingly more attracted to his refusal to take her shit. The body language from the girl is amazing. Her mouth is screaming "believe all women!" and her body is saying "throw me over a chair and fuck me in the ass".

That being said, why bother with a feminist? They are always an assload of crazy and (often) daddy issues. Hard next.

[–]zxcvb78090 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I think you are right. I think women try to see if a person is actually who they are selling themselves as. I met a chick who was an ultra feminist. I am ultra rational and only appeal to reason. So it didn't last long because I wouldn't concede a single point that wasn't valid (with feminism there aren't many.) And she ended up having a break down and crying and etc then I dropper her off. But I railed her out multiple times prior to that.



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