How do y'all get Blue Pill shit out of your system?

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May 27, 2019
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I want to validate girls sometimes. I want to complain about my life. I want to have text conversations with girls. I want to self-deprecate more than I should.

But I know all this isn't gonna do me any good. So, do you have a method to just get it out of your system, or do you live with it until you can "kill the beta?"

The beta inside of me is still very much alive, but externally few people would know about it.


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Title How do y'all get Blue Pill shit out of your system?
Author PM_ME_UR_1ITIS_SNAP
Upvotes 71
Comments 35
Date 27 May 2019 05:33 AM UTC (1 year ago)
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[–]redpillnoob4276 points77 points  (0 children) | Copy

There is a prescription - you have to take the pill. And you have to take it everyday. "Do not think 'let me try to be a little cheesy and see if this shit might work this time." @GirTheRobot already say - you just swallow the thing whole.

Don't focus on blue pill shit. It will go out with time. Do not think about it.

Rome wasn't built in a day. Nor was Arnold Schwarzenegger's body, nor was Casanova's charm.

[–]GirTheRobot 1 points [recovered]  (5 children) | Copy

You just swallow the thing whole fucking hog man. "Fuck I want to tell this girl she looks pretty, but she won't be as attracted to me if I do, so I guess I can't."
"Fuck I want a girl to talk to, but I'll be less interesting to her if I do, so I guess I can't."
"Fuck I want someone to vent to, but girls want strong, solid rocks, so I'll go vent to a bro or my dog."

You have to buy into the whole thing, no half measures. These are all really small pieces of a large puzzle.

[–]LethalShade12 points13 points  (1 child) | Copy

That's one way. But life isn't binary. You don't think alpha males that attract a lot of girls can tell a girl she's pretty without her losing interest? Or have a chat with a girl without her thinking he's a loser?

Try it out and calibrate. There's a difference between "You're so pretty, I've never seen a girl so hot do you want to go out with me?" and something like "Be careful wearing such nice dresses around me, I might just tear it off you."

Learn the theory and do what you want with it. Don't just take it word for word, understand why it could turn off a girl to give her compliments and you'll be able to do it without hurting your frame.

[–]Greaterbird4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

It's not so much that you can't tell her that she's pretty, it's that you can't do it while her guard is up or she's sensing desperation.

Don't put her on a pedestal or do it so often it loses meaning or gives her an ego, but if she's gone through the trouble to make herself look extra nice for you, tell her she looks beautiful. You compliment effort towards the things you want to see more of.

[–]JyoungPNG26 points27 points  (0 children) | Copy

If you insist on acting like that around a girl then find a girl you don’t care to fuck and friendzone her.

[–]linkschode55 points56 points  (7 children) | Copy

You do know that one of the best things in life is finding a life partner - someone who you can share your deepest concerns with?

Don’t dichotomise everything as blue pill vs red pill. The red pill stuff is useful for building attraction, but it’s totally wrong on what comes long after you’ve found someone you actually want to share your life with.

Yeah, there’s always a chance you picked the wrong one and that she will leave you if you reveal too much about the struggles of your inner world. What, are you scared of being rejected?

Fuck yeah. I know I am, the thought of revealing myself to someone and being rejected is probably the worst injury you could sustain.

But if you reveal yourself and are accepted? Nothing is more life affirming and sustaining. Red Pill says fucking nothing to this, and if you go over to exredpill, you’ll see countless stories of guys who found someone prepared to accept them, they carried on with this guarded alpha red pill mentality way past the point it was necessary, and they lost someone they loved.

Don’t fall into this trap my man. Don’t forget about what’s important. And don’t be scared to take a chance. So many of the comments here smack of false enlightenment, entitlement, and fear.

Yeah, women have all the rights blah blah, yeah mostly they do. So what, there are good women out there. I am with one of them.

[–]Totsean2 points3 points  (5 children) | Copy

Well, you're renting one of them but I do hope it works out for you, I am in the same board. But I am well aware of her leaving me if I let my guard down. It's just part of the package.

But I am content and happy, it isn't easy but makes life fun.

[–]linkschode3 points4 points  (4 children) | Copy

I don’t think you’re content or happy, sounds like you’re paying for something you expect to default on at some point.

And actually I’m broke as fuck, and was ashamed about this. I came clean to my girl, and she’s encouraging me to get out there and kick ass. Her belief in me has really encouraged me to believe in myself, I don’t want to let her down, it’s really given me that boost to improve and get some.

One of the most successful guys I know who has been with his wife for 30 years came from nothing. He worked his way up from some minimum wage job all the way to CEO of a big telecoms firm, and she’s been by his side the whole time.

Just think what she must think of him now. She saw first hand him go from nothing to everything. I bet that counts for more than just meeting a guy who already has it all.

[–]Onidramon5 points6 points  (3 children) | Copy

What you’re advocating is to hold out for unconditional love based on anecdotes of outliers, which is extremely foolish. Men love through adoration, women through admiration. It’s not going to work like that homeboi

[–]linkschode4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

I never said the love I’ve experienced is unconditional. And yes, the successful relationships are by definition outliers. Any time we attempt anything complicated, you’ll fail many times before you succeed, and boy have I failed many times. I’m speaking from personal experience, not from anecdote.

If you think love is unconditional (which I don’t), then once she says, “I love you”, that’s even more reason to act in an irresponsible way towards her needs, which you will, chipping away at the love, until one day it’s gone.

The blue pill mistake is to believe love is unconditional, the red pill mistake is to believe true love isn’t possible.

They’re both mistakes. True love is possible, but it’s also conditional and requires constant attention and work.

I know my partners love is conditional on me being an admirable guy, adoring her, plus all of the other things that we know so well here.

She tells me what she loves about me, and I work to be better at those things every day. And the same goes for her.

[–]Onidramon2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Here’s another thing. You use the fact that she tolerated your low money as a sign of acceptance. Anyone who’s read the basics of AFBB knows that attraction isn’t predicated on being financially sound, it’s based on the perception of strong frame and dominance. That is not a prescription to bleed your guts out about your inner struggles and concerns. If the perceived value is gone, you’re gone. Monkey branching starts long before you know it. Women take time scoping out their options while still playing the role with the man she sees as weak until the new branch is secured. If you’ve made an attraction-kill mistake (or several) by coming off as a pussy, chances are it won’t be apparent until the guy she’s been sleeping with under your nose agrees to commit. Don’t rely on what she tells you either. Acta non verba

[–]linkschode0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Agreed

[–]Project_Zero_Betas0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Don’t dichotomise everything as blue pill vs red pill. The red pill stuff is useful for building attraction, but it’s totally wrong on what comes long after you’ve found someone you actually want to share your life with.

This is why they created MRP.

[–]uptimex12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy

You can still do all the listed, but also do Red Pill stuff. These seduction technics (included The Red Pill) are not about not doing things, but mostly about doing other things you didn't do over time. So, first of all, they are about experimenting. Not deprevating.

For example I intentionaly broke every single rule of MM, TRP, RSD to see what happens. And I do it again and again because I don't want to narrow down my behavioral options. I don't want to be afraid of failure. And you know what, surprisingly it still works even if I break the rule. Because frame is the key, if you have a correct, solid frame you can break any rule, mechanism will still work.

[–]TheTrenTrannyTrain11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

Easy, get your heart broken as many times as possible by acting like a beta faggot. Pretty soon you'll realize it will only bring you pain.

Unless you're a masochist, you'll get this BP shit out of your system...eventually.

[–]Velebit4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Short answer: it is very hard because it is in your blood to be like that.

LONG ANSWER:

Self depreciation is a part of a package of psychological stuff that also includes depression, melancholy, worrying etc. This is all part of K selected breeding, humans that evolved in cold climates have that to varying degrees.

Why? Because it benefits the group that not everyone wants every goodie and that not everyone tries to get them. That would create a barbaric, violent, hedonistic and anarchic society.

K selected populations have stable families, low fertility, heavy investment into society and humble members. (Evolution in cold: think Scandinavians and Japanese... vikings and samurai gladly giving their individual life so their blood can win out indirectly)

r selected populations have single motherhood widespread, high fertility, low investment or caring about society and members that thinks they as individuals are absolutely top stuff. (Evolution in jungles, think Africa and central America... their fatherless, violent and promiscuous societies)

Since K selected people have their society deconstructed and are devolving and being ruined their selfsacrificing, altruistic, humble and helpful mindset is benefiting the r selected who do not reciprocate.

Example of K selected thinking: I am not that great, my time is not precious, why don't I spend time with and shower my woman and children with love and gain from them the same.

result is a close monogamous family and society that thinks in terms of familes

Example of r selected thinking: I am awesome and everything is only as valuable as it helps to entertain me. There is nothing to life beyond scratching an itch. Food, games, sex, drinking, sightseeing. I have to keep scratching and stimulating myself. Kids are a burden and women are only as good as they can scratch my itch well and other men are just competition unless they can make me laugh and help me compete to scratch my itches better.

result is a failing and increasingly divided world that thinks in terms of individuals

[–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

[–]RevolutionaryPea72 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

You do the same thing you do with anything in your life. You weigh up the pros and cons of your actions and use discipline to do the right thing for getting what you want.

Do you want to be a beta cuck who uses women as a replacement for your mother? Go ahead. Or do you want to own your own life, do what the fuck you want 100% of the time including fucking HBs? That way will take more effort. Most men fail because they are weak.

It's exactly the same as lifting. Do you want to be fat and weak or ripped and strong? The former is easy. The latter will take discipline dsy in, day out.

[–]Malactha2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

You see the problem, so just don’t do it. If you need to talk, discuss your problems with a friend. Women are not friend material. Only a guy can understand guy problems. Keep up the good work and you will persevere.

[–]Andgelyo2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Getting cheated on, fucking multiple women, being constantly around women and seeing their true nature. Once you are around women all the time, you naturally disdain their company

[–]beachbbqlover2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Wait, validating women is a bad thing?

[–]DAOcomment22 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

However long it to took to condition you to be beta, that's how long it will take to neutralize that conditioning. For some men, that means they don't have enough time left to ever fully recover. But imagine how much better your remaining years can be if you keep stacking one year of improvement on top of the other. Let go of the impatient need to have instant gratification and engage with the process of improvement. That's key to all great growth transformations in life.

[–]Tousen710 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This.

[–]Flintblood1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Reading and internalizing some classic Stoicism writings like Meditations by Marcus Aurelius will help with reframing your internal world.

When you feel the need (Gods know why) to self-deprecate use it as an opportunity for humor and add a bit of irony to it. You can flip the validating girls into a compliment / tease complement.

Start with your internal frame first and seek abundance in life first.

[–]Ltrgman1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

By sleeping with women. Plural.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I want to validate girls sometimes.

You can give out specific praise as a reward for a period of good behavior. EG, "that outfit suits you" or "you really know a lot about styling hair". Really generic praise along the lines of "you are sooooo beautiful" paradoxically both inflates their ego and comes across as insincere/beta.

I want to complain about my life.

This is what your bros are for. And I guarantee they'll offer better feedback than "be yourself!" and "aww, cheer up!".

I want to have text conversations with girls.

It's a hollow substitute for real interaction that won't make you feel less lonely. Be the guy they want to banter with in real life, not the dial-a-beta who gets texted whenever she's bored or wants free counseling.

I want to self-deprecate more than I should.

This is something I struggled with a lot. It gets better as you learn to be alpha in other ways. Take stock of all the advantages God/evolution have granted you. Being gainfully employed, educated, a reasonable weight, etc puts you ahead of most of the guys you'll see during your daily commute, so don't sell yourself short. You shouldn't have to be hyper-modest or apologetic for being interested in a girl.

[–]cluelessguitarist1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Getting burned by blue pill mistakes changed my mind.

[–]Awesometjgreen1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Adopt the mindset that you do what you want to do, not what she wants to do. If you want a steak dinner with your girl thats fine, if she demands you buy her a steak dinner and dangles sex over your head, you dump her and get another woman. It's all about respect, that's the difference between redpill and bluepill. You open the car door for her because she earned it or because you want to, not because she demands it.

[–]TheStumblingWolf1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's like a persistent weed. Take it out one sprout at a time. I've never been more alpha than I am now, and I still blue pill botched a date yesterday, with a girl I was really attracted to. Shit happens, it doesn't matter. I'm still happy about the date because I learned some cool stuff about myself (I'm even more stoic than I thought) and something about how to behave. So there are 2 options in life:

Succeed or learn. Unless you die, those are the only 2 relevant outcomes.

[–]rizzyfromthe90 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

How? Keep doing the things you did above, then after the girl loses attraction, you will know why.

[–]Mr_Badass0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The best way in my opinion is to get rejected a few dozen times. Then you will slowly become indifferent to want to connect emotionally to women.

[–]Zanford0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Approach approach approach. Abundance. Socially lubricate yourself by being outgoing and chatting with people (can be guys, old people, whatever). Get some plates who you find fuckable but aren't so hot that you get oneitis. Whenever I am spinning plates my fav girl to spend time with is the second hottest one cuz I DGAF.

Lifting obv. High T will help with the mindset, as will the improved posture and seeing your better self in a mirror (and the feedback loop when you see girls' reactions to ya).

[–]Project_Zero_Betas0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Keep increasing confidence.

[–]FreedomEpiphany0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Ask her out, get closure and then completely erase her from your system.

Btw, I know it's deleted but I would appreciate a copy of my writings.

[–]surreptitioussoidog0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You have to be broke, have an addiction, living in the gutter but fresh out of jail, and then they will fill your prescription for the red pill. The red pill will fix it.



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