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Don't listen to what they say, watch what they do

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May 27, 2019
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This phrase is very important, true and helpful. I am really good at ignoring words and tuning her out. At some point in my BP career I really started tuning into what she was saying and analyzing it to try and improve myself and my life. Everything got worse as I engaged on her playing field and got ripped apart while I DEERed like a faggot. So this is clearly not what you want to do and I have abandoned it.

I am wondering if you can take this idea too far and what the repercussions are. Recently I have been getting a lot of morning / day sex. We are both fixed so I typically cum inside of her because it just feels better. Before we fuck she will say "Don't cum inside of me, I don't want your cum dripping out of me all day while I am trying to do homeschool." Those are very overt clear words, they aren't about our marriage and I don't "think" it is a shit test because she has continued to say it for a while now. I ignore her, cum in her and she bitches at me. I smirk and say it was an accident and move on with the day. Silly example, but I am ignoring her words and her actions say it's fine because she keeps fucking me. Is this just a shit test that I should pass by cumming in her regardless of what she is "saying" or should I respect her wishes?


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Title Don't listen to what they say, watch what they do
Author Daddy_ThunderCock
Upvotes 23
Comments 41
Date 27 May 2019 01:00 PM UTC (1 year ago)
Subreddit askMRP
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/239833
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[–]MrChad_ThundercockBig Red Machine17 points18 points  (7 children) | Copy

“I smirk and say it was an accident and move on with the day”

Next time say: you’ll be thinking about me all day long... cocky & funny and then leave.. don’t apologize anymore.

Keep doing it until she really has an issue with it. But I wouldn't over think it. Probably just doesn’t want jizz dripping out all day long... I get that comment too. As long as you’re the Prize, she’ll gladly keep taking it. Buts it’s in your best interest to fill her up... mmslp talks about why.

[–]SBIIIRed Fucking Commando9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy

Are you two related?

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (0 children) | Copy

He is my bastard son but a good lad

[–]SorcererKingMod / Red Beret5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'm thinking more of a cheeky Austin Powers type "Ooops!" is all he needs.

[–]Bedtimeshine0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I’d tell her it was no accident and I did it because I wanted to.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I did that. It persisted. I said accident while smirking. She knew I did it on purpose.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This morning she came to interrupt my work for some comfort. I told her she needed to be filled up with my cum and it would help her day out. She tried to say it smells bad coming out when she pees. I told her she was insane and laughed at her. Then I bent her over and filled her up. Guaranteed to have a much better day.

Its like TRT for bitches.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Today I was fucking her doggy before leaving and when I came she jumped forward so I wouldn't cum in her. Only got half the load off and had to catch the rest. Next time I'll blast it all over the bed and her. Ha

[–]SorcererKingMod / Red Beret10 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy

Do what you want. If she really didn't want your cum dripping out of her all day she wouldn't fuck you in the morning. Or she'd swallow it.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

I think that is my next line. "I won't cum in you but you have to suck it out of me. "

[–]Redpillbrigade1710 points11 points  (11 children) | Copy

Short answer is it’s a shit test.

Big picture strategy: the more you comply with stated requests the lower your attraction to her.

Increase compliance = lower attraction.

Decrease compliance = raise attraction.

The key is when you don’t comply with stupid stated requests like that to do it in a charming, disarming James Bond fashion, not like Rambo or butt- hurt boy.

Alphas get away with everything they want.

[–]Art_MartinStill a somewhat autist5 points6 points  (10 children) | Copy

Slightly OT, but i'd like to hear more about your point about increasing compliance lowering attraction -

When is a shit test a shit test? For example someone hasnt owned their shit around the house; say they are responsible for the bins and they are overflowing; and the wife calls them out on it in an angry way, and it gets called a shit test - testing your compliance. I'm struggling to see how just not doing what your supposed to be doing in the first place and a person calling you out on it is a shit test - and how not complying would do anything but piss them off further. Your reaction is important(owning it/not taking shit), but ignoring or whatever makes no sense to me.

The implication here is that anything that comes out of a wife mouth that is negative is a shit test to test your compliance and maybe i'm on the wrong track. Just a newby trying to understand.

[–]Redpillbrigade172 points3 points  (6 children) | Copy

Compliance with her made up demands and wacky moods is what we’re talking about. Compliance with a rightful course of action that makes sense for the good of the pack is different (like bins overflowing or whatever in your example). That should not happen if the captain had done his job. And if it does happen and someone brings it to his attention then, it’s all fine and good: thank her, acknowledge her contribution to the good for the pack and move on. They have a point after all!

Drop your ego and recognize that (1) you failed in the first place if she has to bring it up and (2) it’s fine to admit / recognize someone else on the team for picking up slack if you’ve failed.

[–]Art_MartinStill a somewhat autist1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

Thanks.

The risk I see here is that newbies can think that a shit test is anything that comes out of a wifes mouth that she is harping the husband to do. If you have that mindset, it just comes across as weak to the wife surely if you are actively ignoring or A and A(or whatever) in scenarios where you should have just owned your shit and not did the stupid thing in the first place. ie taken the bins out. So by reducing compliance you are showing very literally your low value 'I don't own my shit and I'm not going to do anything about it behaviour'. Its very different to scenarios where she is asking you to do unreasonable things, or pointless things etc. But what if she thinks it's reasonable and you think it's unreasonable...I'm getting confused now.

I have a feeling the guys who understand this have an easier time in RP than the guys who take every request from an unhappy wife with reasonable requests as shit tests - but this is just my thoughts and I'd defer this to the experts.

[–]FoxShitNasty833 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah I have been making that mistake, noob tip. Don't sit still always be moving always be owning shit even if it means giving harpy something to do. Last to bed, first up. In my view the difference between someone owning their shit and a plow horse is that the plow horse is being kicked and is miserable. The man is owning and loving it.

Edit: I'm a bit of both but learning to enjoy the grind.

[–]Redpillbrigade170 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

“But what if she thinks it’s unreasonable and you think it’s unreasonable “ that’s the crux right there. And that’s where strength of frame comes in. Of course her hamster is going to think it’s reasonable. The key is not to fight her, have arguments with her. Like Bill Burr said: never argue with a woman.

You need to (1) correctly identify the shit test, and (2) apply the correct techniques.

1 - if it’s compliance with something unrelated to your stated mission and goals (clarify those for yourself if you have not already), or unconnected to a true need she has, you should be able to tell pretty quickly. E.g I only have sex on Mondays or get me a glass of water, or go turn the lights off in that room, etc.

  1. Apply amused mastery, tease her, simply ignore her, Literally act like she didn’t say it, deflect, change subject if needed etc - all the techniques we talk about here. Do not engage directly in a serious discussion on said topic. It’s a sign of weakness and you’ve failed if you do.

The stronger your frame and ongoing, continuing actions and habits to support it and make it even stronger, the more she’ll start deferring to you and your judgments, and all this shit testing should subside considerably but more importantly your ability to do both 1 and 2 will increase. They simply will not be a problem- they will be an opportunity for you to game her. You’ll see them exactly as that. She’s just a little girl probing for leadership.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

What if she has really good plausible deniability? IE just now she said her stomach hurt, so I got shit tested for trying to fuck her.

"So you expect me to be compliant at all times? I can't have a stomach ache?" I didn't know what to do there so I told her to stop talking. Typically I use this line "Hey babe, do me a favor?" She will say"Stop talking?" Or will just stop talking.

[–]hack3geRed Beret1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

The hard part is threading the needle on this situation. Of course she can not feel good - I’m sure there are times you aren’t feeling good. The challenge is if she has a history of making excuses and determining if it’s LMR or a legitimate issue. I can usually tell from her body language - last night wife was saying she had cramps and was getting her period but she didn’t seem to be acting like it so I initiated and sure as she shit she was wet and ready to go.

Just try not to be an autistic fucktard - you should be able to read her by this point.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This is very good. Make sure not to apologize even if you own it internally.

Just saying something like "I appreciate you bringing that to my attention, I'm on it. " Or just be a dick and blame her for purposefully putting extra trash in there to fuck with you and make up a pretend fun fight. I've done that when the recycling bin is too full, I claim she searched the house for anything she could recycle JUST so I would have to empty it or it would allow her to complain that I wasn't doing my job. If I do it right she is laughing and I am smirking like an asshole.

[–]ExpatRights1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Yea it's fucking retarded. I drove my wife to divorce ignoring her "shit tests" like asking me to pick my shirt up off the bedroom floor every night.

[–]arm_candy2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

First off, you should have stopped leaving your shirt on the bedroom floor like a fucking slob. If you gave her ammo for this “shit test” every night, then you were acting like a lazy five-year-old.

Second, no way this was the reason your marriage fell apart. The shirt on the floor is annoying. It’s not divorce-worthy though, nor is the fact that you ignored her nagging about it. She left you because you utterly suck. You’re leaving lots of advice around MRP but you don’t seem to be doing any work on yourself. Your one OYS post was a boring wishlist with zero effort and zero detail.

You got divorced (apparently initiated by your wife) and for some reason you seem to think that means you have some deep “red pill” expertise now. You don’t.

[–]Redpillbrigade170 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Thanks. This needed to be said to this guy, and you hit nail on the head.

[–]NoCoast823 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

I don't want your cum dripping out of me all day while I am trying to do homeschool

"You don't have to do home schooling, my cum can drip out of you while your at an office if you prefer"

[–]Redpillbrigade176 points7 points  (6 children) | Copy

... And to answer your question more specifically, you need to distinguish between true needs she says she has (like a true medical thing for example, where you can see real changes or negative impact on her behavior if you don’t comply), and mere apparent discomfort like dripping with your cum all day.

Tease her how she’ll be getting a load of energy from you to last her the entire day, then send you pics as she changes her undies etc. She should be proud she carries your cum all day like that, be in meetings or at the store or whatever and constantly be reminded of your dick inside her etc.

It’s basically a privilege- train her to see it that way.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (5 children) | Copy

Perfect example of non-compliance. She won't doesn't like to suck me after PIV because it's salty. What's a good response?

[–]Redpillbrigade170 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

Hahahaha she doesn’t like the taste of her own pussy?!

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

No. Is that a normal thing with women? Do you like the taste of your own cum?

[–]Redpillbrigade170 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Listen to you. You sound like her. Rationalizing and taking seriously her objections.

Look, women make rules for betas and break rules for alphas.

What’s your approach here? Like anything else: slowly does it. Add humor. Start maybe by having a washcloth or wipes (there is a company that makes sex cleanup wipes exactly for these situations) handy. Do it on your own initiative to have a nice clean dick and then have her go to town. Do it for you, not for her.

Ultimately the goal is that over time she’ll be in the throes of passion for your cock she won’t care anymore how “clean” it is.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah, she has done it a handful of times so I know what it's like, it's fucking hot. It sounds like I need more frame, game and time.

[–]hack3geRed Beret0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Look, women make rules for betas and break rules for alphas.

This is the fucking thread right here - if your wife is making excuses or setting conditions you aren’t there yet. Keep on moving fucking forward - maybe you will get there maybe you won’t but the only way is forward.

[–]Bedtimeshine1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I know this doesn’t help. But if I’m in a committed relationship and I’m not fucking other people.... I’m cumming inside of her. Every time. Period. There’s nothing that even compares. Sex ain’t shit unless its raw and I nut inside her. If she jumped forward on me, I would have pulled her back and given a hard trust or two for good measure as I came. Condoms and pulling out are for college sophomores having one night stands. I’d tell her that too. That cumming inside her isnt just a kink or a preference. It’s vital. It’s as basic and natural as any need I have. I’d be like her using a vibrator to masterbate and 5 seconds before she climaxes... she takes the vibrator off her clit and puts it on her belly button while she has a less than ideal orgasm. Cumming inside her is part of who I am as a man and it’s not really up for discussion. And please tell me your kids aren’t home schooled.

[–]BobbyPeruRed Beret1 point2 points  (6 children) | Copy

One of the side bar readings (forgot which one) discusses this specifically. Basically, if she’s really attracted to to and into you, she will want your cum in her, and she will even wait longer before cleaning it out. That should be enough for you to chew on.

[–]MrChad_ThundercockBig Red Machine0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Mmslp

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

I fully remember the chapter and cum in her more becsuse of it. I want her to have some T too

[–]BobbyPeruRed Beret1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yep, T can increase her sex drive.

[–]Eminencemiddle0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Pull out and come on her face.

[–]dll1420 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

My wife sometimes whines about the same thing.... I laugh it off and cum in her anyway. Her actions tell me she loves that by the way she grabs me and pulls me into her when I do it. She also moans and giggles with a sexy satisfying look on her face when I do it.

Sometimes an hour later she comments about it coming back out of her. I just make fun of her and tell her to grab it and lick it off her fingers, which gets a laugh and a "you're so gross!" We both laugh and the cycle repeats...

keep it up... do what you want, and if her actions indicate she likes it, keep doing it. My wife says one thing and does something different frequently. AWALT. Enjoy her and keep having fun with her.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yep. Just been cumming in her anyway. She gave up bitching since I posted this. Awalt for sure



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