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Cocky/'bad' boy behavior helped me score with a girl over a better looking guy

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June 24, 2019
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I'm a 22 y/o male and remembered something interesting from 3 years ago (when I was 19 and had just found TRP). I'm UK based not US.

While I was at uni, I had just lost a lot of weight and was no longer the fat guy. In fact, I was slightly skinny fat (fucked up by not lifting as I was losing weight, but was really desperate to no longer be fat once uni started back up for my second year). So at this time I didn't have much 'true' inner confidence, and decided to fake it by acting a bit cocky/douchey.

So outwardly I appeared confident, but I guess some people might be able to see through it. Anyway, while I was at a uni social, I noticed a HB7 blonde white girl and can't remember how we started talking, but I said to her ''I probably won't remember your name by the end of this night'' and she got really offended. But I could tell she was attracted.

Later that night while at the club, another guy from the social that I knew (acquaintance) approached her. Now I honestly think objectively speaking, this guy was WAY better looking than me.

  • For starters, he was white, whereas I was indian (not saying this in a racist way, just that girls usually prefer white guys. But I think this is way more pronounced in the USA, cos I didn't really struggle with white girls here in the UK)

  • He had a strong and sharp jawline. I had slightly chubby cheeks. He was muscular/lean. I was skinny (155lbs at 6''2)

  • Honestly, the only things I really had above him in terms of looks was my height (I was 6''2, he was 6''0) and my fashion. I had really strong fashion game, regularly complimented by guys and girls alike


The biggest difference though, was that I was projecting this bad boy/cocky image with strong body language (faked), whereas he seemed really Beta. I'm not sure why this was, but he had REALLY poor body language. He hunched his back and seemed a bit timid (which was surprising, cos this dude looked muscular). He also had a nasally voice.

By all accounts he was better looking than me, but once he approached her, she told him to ''shoo''. She literally motioned him away with her hands to go away, it was a brutal rejection. And yet a few minutes later, she approaches me and says ''Still don't remember my name?''. She was still fixated on that, anyway I escalated from there and kiss-closed soon after. I did end up taking her home that night, but unfortunately couldn't my dick up (porn issues, which is another topic alltogether).

Basically, does anyone think there that strong Beta vibes can offset even good looks? Because I was surprised that I ''beat''/AMOG'd this guy for this HB7. At the time I was inexperienced, I no longer feel the need to act like a bad boy or be loud, I'm much quieter now because I don't feel the need to show off....this change occurred as I grew more confident in myself, and hasn't changed my results, if anything my results got way better since I gained real confidence, but at the core of this...has anyone else seen/experienced similar things? Where Beta vibes can overpower even good looks?


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Title Cocky/'bad' boy behavior helped me score with a girl over a better looking guy
Author Askerman97_returns
Upvotes 99
Comments 75
Date 24 June 2019 07:59 PM UTC (1 year ago)
Subreddit askTRP
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/243255
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/asktrp/comments/c4ukcs/cockybad_boy_behavior_helped_me_score_with_a_girl/
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[–]MindlessCalendar59 points60 points  (4 children) | Copy

Basically, does anyone think there that strong Beta vibes can offset even good looks?

Of course they can. Why is this even a question? It's completely normal that a fairly attractive girl isn't going to hook up with an unconfident dude with bad social skills and body language and instead will go for a guy who is still decent looking and knows how to kino. Confidence and kino are extremely important.

[–]Askerman97_returns 1 points [recovered]  (2 children) | Copy

I guess my point, is that his looks didn't match his behavior. Looking at the guy, the first thing you'd assume is ''Wow, he must get a lot of girls''. He wasn't a 10/10 but he's better looking than most.

[–]trppr 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

lol neither did yours by your own account. You subverted expectations and made it a surprise. That's always going to be more interesting than a known and boring competitor.

[–]Nis_law2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Tell that to Black Pill

[–]Endorsed ContributorFereallyRed43 points44 points  (1 child) | Copy

Another post about which section of the SMV pie chart is most important.

You need the whole pie.

[–]jackandjill227 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

Interesting, thanks for mentioning it!

[–]1DubbleFUPAwitCheez9 points10 points  (5 children) | Copy

does anyone think there that strong Beta vibes can offset even good looks?

I've said this before but I guess it is one of the things worth repeating again and again around here.

Yes, beta undermines everything. I am an ostensibly good looking, tall, strong, in shape, witty guy but before I found the redpill and I was buying into all the blue pill indoctrination I would lose girls all the time. All those good qualities only last for so long, when the shine wears off, and it does quick, they'll treat you as cold as if you were the bluest beta.

Be attractive, don't be unattractive isn't just physical traits.

[–]WeddingCrasher910 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

ostensibly

I'm kinda in the same position. I would appreciate tips for building social intelligence.

[–]1DubbleFUPAwitCheez1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

Experience. When you go out don't be afraid to fail or even better watch other people fail. Learning what doesn't work is just as important as learning what does. Analyze what happened after it's over and try to figure out what there is to be learned. Fake it till you make it is real. Eventually you won't have to think about these things because you'll have internalized it.

You have to just go out and see how the world responds to you personally.

[–]WeddingCrasher910 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Appreciate your answer. However, i see that a lack of social intelligence and the opportunity to socialize are in a vicious cycle. For example, once I approached my workmates circle, they noticed my lack of social intelligence, which is due to lack of social interactions and experiences. They ended up shit testing me, throwing banter, ignoring my attempts to converse, and just plainly banished me. I am sure if I tried to enter any other circle with well rounded social members in order to learn, I will end up with the same fate. How do I overcome this?

[–]1DubbleFUPAwitCheez1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

You can try taking a class or join some sort of group. There are plenty of those available.

Are you working on yourself? Lifting, all the regular crap we spout? People always treat people that look like they have their shit together better than if they don't. Make sure you have that on lock before truly trying to tackle something more abstract like this.

It could be said luck is being prepared when there's opportunity. To have the easiest time make sure you are a high level version of yourself and if you are, keep an eye open for opportunity like you did with your workmates friends or by interacting with people in those groups/classes. Not all of them will work out but think of them as the stepping stones towards eventually getting there. You're an adult, nothing is handed to you anymore. You have to go look for it.

[–]WeddingCrasher910 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You're well versed and absolutely right. Thanks for the info

[–]Project_Zero_Betas7 points8 points  (8 children) | Copy

Basically, does anyone think there that strong Beta vibes can offset even good looks?

100%. I always say this: girls do NOT care about looks nearly as much as guys assume. LMS is incel-thinking.

[–]teveza115 points6 points  (7 children) | Copy

100%. I always say this: girls do NOT care about looks nearly as much as guys assume. LMS is incel-thinking.

So true.

I've heard people say "girls only care about looks or money."

The funny thing is, the guys who say this are guys who can't get the hottest girls.

[–]Project_Zero_Betas4 points5 points  (6 children) | Copy

Yup. And when you suggest to guys that if they take the necessary self-improvement steps that TRP advocates so that top-tier girls will want to invest in you before you even peak, their minds explode. Betas are so pathetic.

[–]teveza114 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

Yup. And when you suggest to guys that if they take the necessary self-improvement steps that TRP advocates so that top-tier girls will want to invest in you before you even peak, their minds explode. Betas are so pathetic.

Most guys aren't willing to do what they need to do.

They also won't take the risks they need to take.

The hottest girls are there for those who are audacious enough to have them, but its easier for betas to resign to their belief that "women only care about looks" or "you have to be rich to get a girl like that" than to face the truth, they lack the BALLS, the courage, and commitment that's needed.

[–]Project_Zero_Betas2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

They think self-disqualification is a more noble route than putting any effort into making material improvements to themselves. Crabs in a bucket really is a societal-level disease.

[–]187oddfuture0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Humble yourself fam. You were once one of them, just like everyone here.

[–]Project_Zero_Betas0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Some have a higher capacity for self-awareness and will to power than others (And some of us didn't need to read the sidebar)

[–]187oddfuture0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Lol okay faggot.

[–]Project_Zero_Betas0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Not my fault I didn't have to read an FAQ to realize how to make myself a high quality male ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–]Chadster1138 points9 points  (7 children) | Copy

Another post that should be posted on the main sub as a field report. Is there are reason you didn’t post it on there?

[–]communistcontrolact4 points5 points  (6 children) | Copy

Maybe banned from there like I am.

Main sub mods are betamales and are easily triggered

[–]WeddingCrasher911 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

lol .....you're more likely to be banned by the mods than by reddit for following TRP

[–]xxWildbeast13xx0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I doubt you’re actually banned, the sub is just quarantined

[–]Chadster113-1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy

Lol wtf are you talking about??

[–]Twenty_league_boots2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

He's right.

[–]Chadster113-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

Yeah I’m sure they banned him for absolutely no reason whatsoever and the mods are evil

[–]Twenty_league_boots0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I got banned from that sub too because some fag couldn't handle a difference of opinion.

[–]temerity182 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

You did well. And maybe you look better than you think.

[–]rare_specimen_indeed1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Character trumps looks every time.

[–]teveza113 points4 points  (12 children) | Copy

I've overcome good looks myself.

I had a coworker,. girls would always say he was "gorgeous" completely ripped, expensive clothes, new car, expensive cell phone,

Me: old ass truck, gangsta phone, regular clothes, good body but not the gym model-tier like him.

He was fuckin ripped, had a strict diet, was rich, and girls everywhere would say how hot he was, I didn't get the same kind of comments as him.

We were coworkers for almost 2 years, I always had hotter girlfriends and hook up than him. Not by a little bit, I would have 9s and 10s, he would have 7s and 8s. He had the looks, but didn't have the balls to game the hottest girls, or something was lacking, he'd wait for them to talk to him first. Whatever the reason, there was a huge disparity with the girls that I could pull over him. I could feel his hate and envy for me grow as time went on.

It eventually culminated in us getting in a fight during a soccer game (with a lot of girls watching), that he started, and to add insult to injury I kicked his ass and hurt his back when I slammed him during the fight.

I know he was better looking than me, had better clothes, more money, and a new car. But for some reason, I got hotter girls ALL the fucking time.

[–]Twenty_league_boots7 points8 points  (3 children) | Copy

How was he your coworker yet he was rich and you weren't?

[–]sometimespredictable2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Parents, probably.

[–]teveza112 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

How was he your coworker yet he was rich and you weren't?

Mommy and Daddy.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

LOL tru

[–]classylassy2813 points14 points  (5 children) | Copy

Your nines and tens may be his fours and fives it's all subjective. Plus girls that are sevens and eights usually make better girlfriends than the hotter ones.

[–]teveza113 points4 points  (4 children) | Copy

plus girls that are sevens and eights usually make better girlfriends than the hotter ones.

That is a common misconception.

10s are often more feminine, don't have as many self-esteem, trauma issues, are more likely to come from good families, less daddy issues. 10s are loyal too.

I have told a lot of people this, and most people don't believe me, but then again, most people don't date 10s and have conceptions that have been fueled by TV and by other people who don't know about dating 10s.

I've dated 7s, 8s, 9s, and 10s. The 9s and 10s have been the best girlfriends, no question.

[–]NickA973 points4 points  (3 children) | Copy

I don't know shit about you and you may be right, but maybe you rate them as 9s and 10s because they're better girlfriends.

[–]teveza111 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

I don't know shit about you and you may be right, but maybe you rate them as 9s and 10s

because

they're better girlfriends.

There have already been several posts doubting that they are 9s and 10s, lol, I can tell my fellow TRPers here aren't immune to being little haters and being insecure.

[–]NickA970 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It's not hate or insecurity, it's just that nobody is immune to bias. Besides, you and I may have different ideas about what's a 9 or a 10, but to each their own.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Cool story girl!

[–]Project_Zero_Betas0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I could feel his hate and envy for me grow as time went on.

Feels good, doesn't it?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

It's 6'2", not 6"2. Like are people not taught this in school?

[–]InflatableRaft18 points19 points  (2 children) | Copy

Most people around the world are taught the metric system, so the answer to your question is "No".

[–]MDmanson6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Lol you're right. Give this man a fucking gold.

[–][deleted] -4 points-3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'm Canadian though. ' vs " is not really a hard concept to understand.. one for feet, one for inches 🤷‍♂️

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy

I don't remember what I ate for lunch, why get stuck something happened 3 years ago LOL that's lame

[–]teveza110 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

Eating lunch isn't the same as using techniques to get a hot girl.

Besides, aren't we here to swap stories and techniques?

[–]Twenty_league_boots1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

No, we're here to ask and answer trp questions.

[–]teveza110 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

TRP questions are about techniques to get hot girls.

I can't believe you guys are complaining about swapping TRP and game stories, lol.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Oh when I was 12 I was talking to beautiful girls and they liked me when I was aggressive so now I am 20 let me act out and be aggro to get girls even though I know it is inauthentic and not gonna work. Solid mindset bro

[–]teveza110 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Oh when I was 12 I was talking to beautiful girls and they liked me when I was aggressive so now I am 20 let me act out and be aggro to get girls even though I know it is inauthentic and not gonna work. Solid mindset bro

To me, trying different things with girls in my hobby, my favorite sport, so I'm happy to hear and share any story, I don't care if I was 11 or if it was last week.

[–]StoneHurk0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Good. This lesson serves as a good reminder that there is absolutely no excuse for crying about the looks you were born with.

[–]rockyp320 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I’m not sure man but if you want crazy confidence do no fap and no porn and I don’t mean just do normal no fap I mean NO FAP that took me a long time to realize the difference I would hold a streak then break after a while and that kept repeating but recently I just said fuck I AM NOT FAPPING or giving sexual pleasure unless I’m with a girl.



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