What red pill facts surprised you the most?

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Title What red pill facts surprised you the most?
Author MichaelLifeLessons
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Date 25 June 2019 05:09 AM UTC (1 year ago)
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[–]EvolvedVirus288 points289 points  (30 children) | Copy

That women are teaching each other to hurt their own long-term success and happiness. It was bizarre to watch once I understood it.

Maybe women are the worst enemy of women.

[–]omega_dawg93103 points104 points  (18 children) | Copy

i don't believe it's maybe. i KNOW women are their own worst enemy.

from the horrible advice on hair & makeup, to sex, to how to deal with men, they tell their gfs what to do then laugh as they fuck up their lives.

then they cry together... and blame men.

source: my 3 older siblings are all females... that have lots of friends. I've watched them destroy each other with horrible advice from my teenage years until yesterday.

[–]terra50253 points54 points  (1 child) | Copy

Because they would rather cry together than watch their peers ascend beyond them.

[–]EvolvedVirus1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Sometimes I see women, who are about to make a good decision... and they suddenly make the worst or worse decision. And I can't help but think... "did she have a girlfriend talk the other night?"

[–]account_for_rel9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy

So everything has been great since yesterday? 🤪

[–]omega_dawg9317 points18 points  (0 children) | Copy

probably not. they're likely putting blue streaks or weave in their heads or super long eye lashes... or some other stupid shit thinking men care and are attracted to that clown show.

[–]yumyumgivemesome8 points9 points  (9 children) | Copy

Does it truly seem malicious or maybe they are just horrible at assessing relationships?

[–]omega_dawg9332 points33 points  (1 child) | Copy

women are highly competitive.

they don't want their gfs to get married or get "happy" before they do.

so think of it as a "crabs in a barrel" mentality but with love... and with ALL the blame for anything wrong as a man's fault. iow, they hate each other but don't say it... but they want men but blame men.

some females are fucked up... that's why so many are on "make me feel good about my fucked up life" daily pills.

[–]SyrenSpell0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

women are highly competitive.

I always read that competitivity is a male characteristic, I guess only the good kind is.

[–]mrpoopistan27 points28 points  (5 children) | Copy

It's malicious, and it's often a form of active denial of resources to their competitors.

I remember a chick I was dating a while back who I had met through a younger female friend of hers. The younger friend was very into me and single, but I found her boring as hell so I didn't pay her advances much mind. Also, I frankly like my women a bit on the trainwreck side -- if she's down to do crazy shit, I'm in.

Once I started dating the older of the two, the oldest one went out of her way to shut down any interactions between the younger one and me. The younger one regularly asked to hang out with us, and the older one always found ways to ditch her or make her fuck off. I never minded the young'un, I just found her shy and boring to a fault.

Notably, the chick I was dating had another friend I knew who was literally the hottest woman I've ever seen. Professional formal dancer who had a surprisingly bangin figure. The dancer was never treated as a threat because her fiance had game to spare and always kept that shit on lockdown. She followed him like a lost puppy.

What's the difference between the two friends?

One was seen as a clear competitor, and she went out of her way to shut that chick down. The other one was completely off the market, and she couldn't have cared less how much I interacted with the dancer.

To be clear: women are excellent at assessing relationships. Most female-oriented fiction is basically training videos on how to identify bitches who need to be put in their place.

Understand this fact: all sexual competition is between women. Men might occasionally fight for access to mates, but they can chill and be friends once an obvious winner has emerged.

Women never stop competing against their friends. Their entire lives are a crazy balancing act between trying to break their friends as sexual competitors while not pissing them off so badly as to face social ostracism.

It's one of the reasons that bitches wear the bitch badge loudly. They've lost the social game, and now they're just loudly advertising "if you compete with me, I will make you wish you were fucking dead."

[–]MagnumBurrito4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

solid breakdown

[–]EvolvedVirus0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I remember a someone saying "girls are such shallow bitches... they're just always so shallow and superficial..."

I was aghast, thinking back, she was the shallowest bitch I've ever met. Likely expelled from her own friend group.

[–]skunkbear4441 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Spectacular post. A way explained with more nuance and angles at explaining female friendships I hadn't seen.

[–]mrpoopistan2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

One of the holes in TRP is a lack of discussion of the perpetual combat between women.

Look at how women feel constantly attacked. Men dismiss it as crazy woman bullshit. The reality is that it's because women are constantly at war with each other. Even mothers and daughters do weird little shit to undermine each other.

[–]skunkbear4440 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Also a fellow guy that has enjoyed dating some trainwrecks for the fun and experience, you get to see deeper layers of female psychology on display. These chicks can't hide their bad sides as well, you see the same things in good girls in lighter levels that they try to obscure this same side of themselves, even though they still pull dosage back it is clear as day if you look for it.

[–]RedKepler7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

Read Cat's Eye by Margaret Attwood. Essentially it's called the "Lord of the Flies" for girls, except its based on experiences of Atwood with other girls (she didn't go to mainstream school till early teens).

[–]gpravda1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Pretty much. It`s the reason why most girls hate befriending other girls.

[–]greenlittleman0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Human females compete with each other unlike many other species. On the other hand.. imagine getting advices on how to get laid from blue pill virgin. It wouldn't be very good advice. Same here.

[–]organicfluxx0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Any good examples?

[–]omega_dawg937 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

I've got 100s... but here are a few:

  1. "cut your hair off girl... short styles are the in thing. shave one side and the back too." asa it's done, they start laughing at her and timing how long it will take to grow back.
  2. "girl he fine... your hubby/bf won't know. he's feeling you and we won't tell if you leave with him. yolo! you go girl." if she does it, they call her a slut for cheating on her man. it's like a shit test btw women plus ammo (to ruin her relationship) when their friendships fall apart (they usually do).
  3. "spend that money girl! fuck saving... you married & that's his credit card anyway." again... "yolo!" later... "that dumb bitch got kids in school and just dropped $800 on yet another purse she don't need. that's sad... them kids need stuff."

women give women horrible advice bc inherently women are highly competitive with other women for attention... any attention.

if left without guidance, most self destruct on their own (no father around usually = slut or can't keep a man). with female guidance they're encouraged to indulge in various acts of depravity... screaming "feminism," and "women can fuck around just like men," the whole time.

with a solid man that leads her (bc he cares for her) the emotional impulses are kept low. to keep her roller coaster ride (random thoughts and feelings all day every day) somewhat smooth is the work that most men hate doing... but is likely the most important she needs.

but an impulsive, emotional man + emotional woman = toxic "relationshit."

[–]Shieldless_One34 points35 points  (3 children) | Copy

Funny you posted this as I witnessed it the other day on FB.

On a page for a music fest I’m going to one girl (far cry from being called a chick) posted about body shaming and how “she feels free now” so she doesn’t shave her armpits or her legs. All the girls were like “you go girl say no to body shaming!” Most of the guys posted how they thought it was unattractive but girls would respond with F your opinion!

Women really are ruining it for themselves.

[–]VictorEremitaK9 points10 points  (2 children) | Copy

They are just glad they have one less person to compete with. That's why they are so evil towards other women, they are trying to lower their quality on the market.

[–]Shieldless_One2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Idk if its always malicious though. Sometimes I think these bitches actually believe they are “doing the right thing” and virtue signaling to other people because as we all know women are never wrong.

I think its because of evolution that they developed this need to express acceptance in the “tribe” as a safety measure so she never gets kicked out of it.

[–]Shieldless_One1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

And just to add on to this point I remember an incident in college where one girl started mocking this one kid because everyone else was doing it. We (as in the guys) weren’t mocking him maliciously we were just joking around as guys. But once she caught on she joined in and added “awww trying to fit innnn” in reference to the guy we were making fun of. It was a clear way of trying to join the side of the majority/“the tribe”.

I think thats also why women respond well to strong boundries because women often have none but when they are with a strong guy that has strong boundaries they can kind of relax in a way and not have to do any of the critical thinking because they are bad at it and they know it.

[–]bakamoney5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Media trends / news etc will fuck us all over.

[–]IndiansSmellLikePoo24 points25 points  (2 children) | Copy

You can change that to people brother

[–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen11 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy

Yeah. you can also teach a fish to breath air...

[–]Foolishoe1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Too obscure, I think you should spell this out. Its trp boss.

[–]mulga1223 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Could you please elaborate on that one a little bit? What exactly are you referring to? I suspect some things, but not sure if you meant the same

[–]Azkik2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

The short of it is: Feminism isn't just a shit test. All of these notions such as "vulnerability is strength" are ways for women to put other women in compromising positions. This is also why betas love feminism, and commonly end up like DrPizza. It's a morally loaded social sleight-of-hand used by sociopathic women and men to prey upon more naive women.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

I think (((they))) taught them first.

[–]uptimex110 points111 points  (25 children) | Copy

Nexting.. I haven't met more efficient mechanism than that. Especially soft nexting.. they always come back.

I used to use Mystery Method, then switched to RSD and after I found TRP, which is not so commercial as RSD and more honest. And have deeper research of feminism and nowadays trends.

[–]theboldmind16 points17 points  (11 children) | Copy

Can you link the mystery method? I wanna read about it and I didn’t see a sidebar on seddit.

[–]uptimex36 points37 points  (9 children) | Copy

Mystery is the second oldest founder of pickup itself, most of the terms you use now have been crated by him and his partner Lovedrop, for example IOD, IOI, Negs, DHV,DLV, Preselection, Shit-test, HB 1-10 etc. etc.

Search for his first book called "The Mystery Method: How to Get Beautiful Women Into Bed by Mystery".

Also RSD Tyler and Neil Strauss (there is a book about PUAs called The Game) were kind of his students.

[–]yumyumgivemesome19 points20 points  (0 children) | Copy

The Game was my bible back in the day. I credit that book for getting me off my ass and learning to talk to women. TRP of course has helped me attract way more women, keep them, and maintain much stronger relationships.

[–]lifeisweirdasfuck11 points12 points  (2 children) | Copy

That book will make you a social robot. You don’t want that.

[–]hans_flammenverfer6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's a great guide to all of the moving parts involved in pickup, just don't use canned lines and it's great.

[–]uptimex1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

It is not focused on inner game mostly. But it gives you the game tactical anatomy.

[–]theboldmind1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

Who is the first oldest?

[–]party_dragon1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Ross Jeffries, author of Speed Seduction and pioneer of using NLP in Game and originator of the term “sarging”.

[–]uptimex0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Ross Jeffries

[–]thetotalpackage70 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Perhaps Neil Strauss

[–]uptimex0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

No he is kind of a student of Mystery. The same with RSD Tyler.

[–]NaughtybutNice179 points10 points  (9 children) | Copy

Can you give me a brief description of soft nesting

Is it basically when a girl does something that is “unacceptable for you” and then you just ignore her and move on with your life? Am I getting it right?

[–]uptimex28 points29 points  (8 children) | Copy

Nexting is a state of mind more. If she shit tested you, and you couldn't pass it with dignity, just say to yourself "Next.." and move on to another target. Or you could have sex with the girl but it didn't happen because of some technical issue (you couldn't find a place.. her boyfriend appeared) you just say "Next..". Or you couldn't continue the game with her because you just didn't have a mood for it, you say "Next". Only nexting can lead you to abundance mentality.

[–]theboldmind8 points9 points  (3 children) | Copy

Hmmm I never associated nexting to abundance. I don’t see the connection but it’s not very clear...

[–]uptimex6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy

They are directly connected. When you next your 10th or 50th or 100th time, your subconcious mind realizes that you have a lot of options and they appear all the time. So you don't need to cling on just one blondy chick.

[–]theboldmind0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

But these nexts are women that you don’t have a chance with right

[–]uptimex1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

You could have or you couldn't have, doesn't matter. Nexting itself is valuable. Every next emphasizes your abundance. Like you prove yourself that you can let it go. You work with yourself, with your psychology, you develop and form it by your actions.

[–]dadfrombrad3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Weird.. I always did this naturally.

[–]uptimex4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Then you are a natural, you don't need pickup and all this TRP stuff. You don't need this sub either.

[–]KaiSmashSmashSawmash0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Is this based on the tv show on mtv called Next?

[–]uptimex1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

No, I didn't even know there was a show like that. It is just a PUA term, like "there is always the next girl" or "there is always a girl who can be your next target".

[–]terra5025 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

never heard of RSD could you link?

[–]ogkushinjapan3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Don’t get absorbed into the RSD Mindset tho. RSD group has good methods for pickup but that’s it. Do not focus on chasing tail but chase excellence, it should be a side project.

[–]SerialATA_Killer3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Real Social Dynamics on youtube. They have a bunch of "associates" that each sort of have their own styles. I think most STEMlords here like myself probably identify best with Tyler and Max. Todd was the first RSD guy I ever watched, but he's a little too douchey for my taste.

[–]hedden93188 points189 points  (3 children) | Copy

How a women will warp her logic into something insane to justify cheating

[–]lossescollector130 points131 points  (1 child) | Copy

How a women will warp her logic into something insane to justify cheating anything


[–]MichaelLifeLessons[S] 26 points27 points  (0 children) | Copy

Exactly what I was thinking

[–]Lunchabel976 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Ah yes, the good ole hamster

[–]hereforgains198665 points66 points  (2 children) | Copy

I always knew it existed but i dismissed it as me being delusional. The hypergamy and the alpha/beta personality and the lizard brain.

[–]_Icarus_Reborn_20 points21 points  (0 children) | Copy

Same for me, and more so seeing it in action IRL.

Before I I knew what TRP was, I knew it existed, in some form. It made sense that girls would go for the confident smooth player types, and all the other RP truths. And I just wasn't one. So that was it.

Then, once I actually started reading the TRP (Ironically coming here to see why the Reddit Hive mind hated it so much and expecting it to be the mysoginistic cesspool Reddit said it would be) and seeing it action literally days after.

Real world examples were more on the female side (AFBB/branch swinging).

From then on it's red pill after red pill almost daily.

I've still got a long way to, but I'm further along than I was yesterday.

[–]Truedemocracy412 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy

Once you see it you can’t unsee it. You know what friends are alpha and betas with women. The ones that have to pay for sex with expensive cars, 60 hour work weeks, begging to get a beer with friends. While the others that maintain frame do what they want when they want

[–]zaze12160 points161 points  (9 children) | Copy

How gullible a man can be.

[–]MichaelLifeLessons[S] 35 points36 points  (6 children) | Copy

Just gullible, or would you go a step further into willful ignorance?

[–]electricspresident64 points65 points  (5 children) | Copy

Wilful ignorance is another facet. But gullible is downright crazy. It's because men value words more.

A word is A man's bond or something like that.

When emotionally compromised a man can be fed any info by the bitch and he will accept it. No matter how many times she's cheated or whatever

[–]catriel2535 points36 points  (0 children) | Copy


Also, is funny how you realise the girl is happier if you don't give a shit about her bullshit.

[–]Nergaal11 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy

When emotionally compromised a man can be fed any info by the bitch and he will accept it.

I bet almost 100% of the guys here have experienced that.

[–]electricspresident5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yes this is true. Unless you're a psychopath , emotional robot unicorn of some kind or you have undergone training to withstand emotional attacks

[–]Irtotallynotrobot5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

I was thinking about that. I think the deal is that women value signaling what group they are supporting for more than the strength of a cause, strengthening the right cause is our job. So when we bitch at them for making stupid arguments, we're missing the point.

[–]hibloodstevia4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's because men value words more.

It's because AUTISTIC spectrum men value words more.

The primary language of the natural alpha is through body language and behavior. They distrust other forms of communication for important things.

[–]Atriplex12416 points17 points  (0 children) | Copy

They are nor gullible. Men are rationale, they have been brainwashed since childhood. You know how difficult it is to remove 20 years of conditioning....

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

A primordial man is only concerned with base pleasures. There’s no rule set or system of value for him without tradition. Tradition needs to be replaced for men to retake control.

[–]IssaBigLife108 points109 points  (1 child) | Copy

Personally for me it was the Alpha personality. It made so much so sense because when I first came across the RedPill, all the people I had known in my life who changed girls like clothes, all had some of those traits.

[–]goldenshoelace811 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

YES, this was exactly the same for me

[–]MichaelLifeLessons[S] 111 points112 points  (44 children) | Copy

This will make a lot of you laugh, but when I realized (early twenties) that women weren't the prize, and weren't better than men


[–]Project_Zero_Betas4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

but when I realized (early twenties) that women weren't the prize

Once I realized all female behavior centers around them obtaining the most desirable alpha to father their children, it all just clicked.

[–]DREADC0RSAIR150 points151 points  (4 children) | Copy

I think it was the simple fact that in relationships you aren't teammates in life. I thought everything would be mutual, I carry where she can't and she carries where I can't. But it's not like that at all, you have to play games to keep her excited, you're expected to carry everything and she leaves the minute someone more convenient comes along. She's never yours, its only your turn

[–]yallareweak20 points21 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is the biggest kicker of all. No fucking wonder men go MGTOW. Women truly truly are not worth it. To fuck? Maybe. Anything more? Why arent you on your purpose?

[–]Monkitail32 points33 points  (0 children) | Copy

your result may vary

[–]hmpanon2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy


[–]diceblue49 points50 points  (3 children) | Copy

The whole dynamic of shit testing. Realizing I've been failing them my whole life without knowing what they were. On some level I don't think women even consciously recognize why they do it. It's like a mating ritual.

[–]dadfrombrad5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

Yep. And it’s stupid real.

Bitch was giving me a terrible attitude. So I started bossing her around. Bitch invited me over like every weekend now.

[–]ineedavacation41 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Just asking, but What exactly happened?

[–]-ThePathIsTheGoal-2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

They do not realize it. It’s a natural and subconscious form of testing.

[–]xx-Rain_Maker-xx41 points42 points  (12 children) | Copy

Preselection. That's a very powerful tool I wasn't using at all.

[–]babybopp14 points15 points  (11 children) | Copy

I just made the same post. The power of abundance and preselection.

[–]themun954 points5 points  (10 children) | Copy

What do you mean by preselection? Can you explain this a little bit

[–]babybopp41 points42 points  (8 children) | Copy

So when you are single and try to get a girl, more often than not she will ignore you. But if you have a girlfriend or girls with you, that means those girls that you are with have preselected you. So you become more attractive to her. Kinda like instead of going to buy a watermelon from the aisle, you wait until someone else spends time choosing a nice one, then when it is inside their cart, you steal it. Rather than you trying to buy your own because you might choose one that is not ripe. Girls find men that other women have already selected more attractive.

[–]umizumiz6 points7 points  (6 children) | Copy

Preselection can also be presented by attitude alone...

[–]empatheticapathetic14 points15 points  (5 children) | Copy

Then it’s something else (abundance mentality), not preselection.

[–]-ThePathIsTheGoal-2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Agreed, but I think the overarching point is that you can replicate it through your frame alone. The semantics aren’t really that important here.

I’ve noticed it in my own life. If I’m in a LTR, and with that woman physically, the other girls around look at me with interest. If I am in a LTR, and NOT physically with her, the girls around me STILL look at me with interest, and I believe this is due to the manner in which I carry myself.

I am sub-communicating abundance in a way that is just about the same as if I had the girl right next to me. Something in my mannerisms is being translating as if to say: “I am a sexually satisfied man with options”.

The sub communication of abundance in those times is genuine, because I AM in an LTR and genuinely feel abundant and satisfied. On the other end of the spectrum, in times where I am single, I notice a drastic decrease in the amount of looks I get. Most likely due to falling back into a scarcity/needy/thirsty frame of mind. I can fake the abundance, but most times it’s not genuine, therefore no one believes it.

[–]Project_Zero_Betas1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Abundance and pre-selection are two sides of the same coin.

[–]umizumiz-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy

Preselection is the term that refers to what SHE is witnessing, abundance mentality is a term that defines a state of mind...

If you simply tell a woman you have 6 plates, then you have 6 plates. And preselection has been confirmed, so long as you're believable...

[–]empatheticapathetic0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Attitude is a state of mind. Saying something is not ‘attitude’.

Pre selection is therefore not an attitude.

Cmon bro...

[–]umizumiz-3 points-2 points  (0 children) | Copy

When did I ever say you had to speak out loud that you have chicks?

You could literally have your wingman set you up, and you can be on the other side of the bar.

Those chicks he told still think you have a harem

Spez: ok, I did say that. But that's only one way. Attitude is nonverbal as well.

[–]DreamExpedite0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Oh okay so it's like Price's Law and Pareto's distribution from the 12 Rules - those who have some will be given more

[–]_PM_ME_UR_LINGERIE_1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Preselection is a mechanism based on social proofing. Best non dating example I use is a CV/Resumé reference. If you are going for job and you can get a recommendation from Richard Branson, that will nearly always get you the job on its own. (Whether your skills are worthy or not)

Social proofing basically gives you the benefit of the doubt i.e. positive preselection.

E.g. hanging out with a group of attractive guys has shown to make you rank higher in attrctiveness than if you were only hanging out with ugly guys

[–]GGrub8113 points114 points  (5 children) | Copy

That the red pill applies to everyone, not just women. You will be treated like trash if you're not a strong, powerful man.

If you lack wealth and status you can't get through life by acting nice, you have to be proactive, bordering on aggressive to everyone or you will be taken for granted.

Once you acquire those assets things get easier but only because people will start kissing your ass to earn your approval.

[–]ChefCremeFraiche 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

This is very true. People aren’t against you (for the most part) but they are for themselves. This is why you have to be for yourself. it may “feel bad” for the inexperienced but get this: most people don’t give a fuck about you and if it’s either them or you, they will pick themselves 100% of the time. People may call others assholes but it’s not the successful persons responsibility to make sure the nice person gets what they need also.

[–]Casd12-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Exactly. Fuck those refugees

[–]Crotons5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Even when you are a strong and capable man, you will always be constantly tested. That’s the life of a man.

[–]Truedemocracy41 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

If a woman doesn’t want to sleep with you she won’t respect you

[–]Project_Zero_Betas0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

If you lack wealth and status you can't get through life by acting nice, you have to be proactive, bordering on aggressive to everyone or you will be taken for granted.

Lots of people don't realize this. All being super nice does is signal to others that it's acceptable to walk all over you because there won't be any consequences.

[–]if_i_could_trade33 points34 points  (2 children) | Copy

That everything is about frame and confidence and sexual market value rather than your actual words... which allows you to voice things that you would inherently assume would be unattractive and GAIN from it, as long as the other factors are in play.

Are you a jacked dude with good frame and social control? Yeah, you can enrapture a party talking about fucking SPREADSHEETS if that's your jam, and girls will not only tolerate it, but feel more attracted to you, because:

  • You're displaying unusual confidence in talking about it because of the stereotype that it's nerdy

  • You're probably standing out from all the other guys trying to impress by talking about 'cool' shit

  • They can't figure you out because you're a mix of stereotypes

I mean, you can't just do it whatever your stature in life - if you're behaving like the nerdy loner at the party, it's just going to reinforce that stature instead. But if the frame and confidence and SMV comes first, then you can say all the same 'unattractive' shit and make it actively work in your favour.

I always thought that in my transition to becoming more popular with women, I'd have to give up all my nerdy interests and quirks and thoughts about life. Exact opposite has happened - I'm more publicly nerdy than ever before, but because I got my shit together, it now works for me instead of putting me behind.

I'm not suggesting this is IDEAL game (maybe being 100% player really is better, sure), but you can certainly have your cake and eat it too, at least to the extent you've got a better sex life than 99% of men.

[–]Truedemocracy411 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

Being a jacked guy who can talk nerdy stuff is awesome. Basically winning on all fronts

[–]-ThePathIsTheGoal-4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

I can confirm. I am indeed a jacked nerdy guy that eats ass in his nerdy man cave on the regular.

You can do anything you want if you own it. Frame literally is everything.

[–]NoFaithInThisSub25 points26 points  (2 children) | Copy

That my mission is life is way superior to anything else on the planet.

[–]eternalgnome0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

what's your mission in life?

[–]NoFaithInThisSub0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

whatever it is, it doesn't matter to you, probably. Find yours. The only real way to validate and find yours is from God Himself. That's what i have done, and my life makes sense way more now, the reason i have certain character traits, the reason i look the way i do, my aura etc. all makes sense.

Without the mandate from heaven on your life, what will you really achieve?

[–]mchief10124 points25 points  (7 children) | Copy

"she's not yours, it's just your turn."

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (4 children) | Copy

This one is becoming more and more true all over the world. Make women property again

[–]rawrlolrofl8 points9 points  (3 children) | Copy

I'd vote for you

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy

Voting is the problem.

[–]rawrlolrofl5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

Because women vote

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Women and men with testosterone levels 60% lower than a few generations ago. They’ll give women anything to get in their bloody gash.

[–]teveza110 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

"she's not yours, it's just your turn."

I've seen this one.

You guys who say it aren't getting the same results as me.

[–]Project_Zero_Betas0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Exactly my thoughts.

[–]Yashugan0028 points29 points  (4 children) | Copy

That making a woman angry can be just as effective as impressing her. Strong emotions wins over low energy :)

[–]emaringolo0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Care to elaborate?

[–]rawrlolrofl5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

In the comments from Franco (hopefully I'm allowed to share it, he's RP):


"Helllo Marcus, the attraction in the female is always coming from the primeval part of her personality. Powerful “high” and “low” emotions are related in the woman to hormonal changes and are the main channel of her femininity. Female attraction´s main channel are those emotions. If a man is worried too much about acting on the primeval part of a female personality he is shutting off the main channel to have her attracted. So.. a man cannot be too much worried of will be the social part “angry”.. by the way: it´s always the primeval part to be “angry” The social part is the part which is in charge of the emotions so more of a logical structure.

In a word: one cannot buld attraction (real attraction!) in a woman and be too much worried of what her social part will do. You need to address both of them and calibrate. That does not necessarily mean that you would be a jerk or a “bad guy”. Freak females are attracted to bad guys who abuse them and violate their boundaries. Feminine women are attracted to menwho exert leadership over their primeval feminine part."

In fact, this was one of the facts that surprised me too about women

[–]Yashugan002 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Sure: met a lefty liberal from major metropolitan area so I just knew all the buttons to push.

Went with the white men are the victims of prejudice which sets her off big time. I mean she was fuming, she left, came back to argue some more. I refused to apologise. Almost got in a fight with another guy which I defused by standing my ground without escalating. She was blowing my cock at the end of the night and I Just left her at that point. Alcohol was involved: many "not smart" decisions were made that night.

But a good lesson: It doesn't matter that she's angry with you, she can still be attracted even when you've pissed her off to no end.

[–]teveza110 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Good one!

[–]Truedemocracy419 points20 points  (1 child) | Copy

How much women want to be told what to do, and how they defect to leadership/local alpha.

Hypergamy can be outrageous when you keep your eye on it. Have seen women in a work setting go for the guy with the highest title, then in a coed sports team go for the guy who is playing QB and barking commands, and then at a bar go for the best looking guy. Their attraction can be incredibly situational.

And how little women truly care about equality. Really is a watch what they do not what they say. Every (attractive) feminist I know have the same dating preferences of a homewife. A strong man to put them in their place

[–]Aymane221-3 points-2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Saw some 6’8 dude at the dude and watch this woman stare him down like she would be ok with him raw dogging her right then and there infront of everyone. It was insane

[–]Transport12735 points36 points  (14 children) | Copy

I was almost redpilled before I discovered trp through self thought/philosophy. I was surprised other people think like me.

[–]Elephant_77711 points12 points  (8 children) | Copy

Same here actually. Redpill just sort of pushed me over the edge.

[–]omega_dawg9332 points33 points  (7 children) | Copy

getting fucked over by a girl (usually your first love) will set most men on a natural path to red pill thought.

every big time pussy hound i know was once a blue pill beta bitch boy, including myself, but that one girl...

she cheated by fucking half the football team and you didn't know.

she fucked your friends behind your back.

she used you for attention.

she had 30 orbiters kissing her ass daily... waiting to do anything she wanted.

and other examples.

when you see that "light," you wonder then see that AWALT.

that can unleash the beast in a man and set him on a path of IDGAF, & "what's in it for me!"

then you realize to women it's all a game... they just want to have fun, fuck a LOT, then pick a beta to marry & pay their way thru life.

men have to learn game to survive the games that women play. women are ruthless about this shit.

[–]Okynrom5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

After going through similar shit, I strongly needed TRP to verify it was, indeed, a pattern.

The dissonance between the social narrative and first-hand experience was so enormous, and most men so unwilling to address the topic IRL, that I would probably still be wondering if I was just "unlucky" or cursed.

[–]omega_dawg938 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy


but a beautiful thing happens when you look at your life and move forward with YOU (and your happiness) as your #1 priority.

you naturally stop caring what people think/feel about you... stop worrying about pussy all the time... stop wasting your time trying to figure it all out.

when you put women on the back burner and focus on you, they pick up on it... they feel it... they want a man that does NOT put them on a pedestal.

they in turn, get into and remain in their feminine energy.

you don't say, "I'm the damn prize," you live your life as such. they are bringing kids, emotional baggage, drama, credit issues, lack of life direction etc. they know they don't deserve to be placed at that point in your life. they are a complement... NEVER the focus.

iow... living your life without a fuck to give makes life enjoyable. listen to them, and you'll believe that battle-tested DNA collection hole btw their legs is worth all the trouble.

it's not worth it. never.

[–]Okynrom2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Sorry for the edit, found myself overwordy, and now can't find it back.

Totally agree.

And this indeed applies to all areas of life.

For instance, doing commissionned job when you already have enough money. So you're just doing it for fun, and can throw a rude client away any time. Flipping the script over them when they try to lure you with vague promises, realize it doesn't work, and try very amusing alternate ways to appease you :).

At the end, not caring is key for getting to the bottom of anything.

[–]Wobblewobblegobble0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

God damn man 😔

[–]omega_dawg939 points10 points  (2 children) | Copy

if the truth hurts, get some lube.

but the game doesn't care, doesn't end, and doesn't care if you play or not.

as the saying goes, "men live their lives trying to get credit for the virtous things they do... while women live their lives trying to avoid punishment for the depravity (debauchery) they enjoy."

[–]Wobblewobblegobble1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I already knew all of this beforehand. It’s just somewhat of a remind of truth from time to time.

[–]AnEyeForAnAye0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

if the truth hurts, get some lube.

but if you use lube to reduce the pain of truth, you'll just get fucked longer anyway.

[–]askmrcia9 points10 points  (2 children) | Copy

I think most men will become red pill after experiencing life.

If you're a normal young dude with a mediocre sex life eventually you're going to want to wake up and change.

A lot men make the change when they realize that they are putting way too much effort in without receiving the benefits. And hopefully this happens in mid to late 20s unless a guy was truly sheltered or in a serious ltr, in which case he may learn later in life.

To your point, the red pill community shocked me because it's literally thousands of men that either went through the same bs I did or worse. It's hard to find guys that are willing to talk about these topics in the open, so seeing so many on the internet discuss this stuff is what shocked me.

[–]Okynrom2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's hard to find guys that are willing to talk about these topics in the open

This is why TRP is so essential.

The thing is: Chads and BP men brag all the time. The former because they get pussy, the latter because they don't want to appear desperate and stick to the social narrative.

Only honest (autistic) men, a minority, will actually say the truth. Happened to me a few times. But then there is a bias: maybe they are negative because they indeed are, ahem, autistic, and thus unsuccessful with chicks ? How to be sure ?

There comes TRP.

[–]teveza111 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

And hopefully this happens in mid to late 20s

Mid to late teens for me.

[–][deleted]0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Any particularly philosophy that you recommend?

[–]acp_rdit4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Stoicism and Buddhism give you a great foundation to handle anything in life.

[–]mulga12272 points73 points  (10 children) | Copy

Female solipsism

How their brain is wired (emotional thinking, inability to comprehend what logic is)

[and them being completely unaware of it]

[–]omega_dawg9326 points27 points  (9 children) | Copy

oh they can be logical... some are extremely smart and logical.

they just have to remember 2 things: turn down (can't turn off) the emotional switch... turn on the logic switch and keep it on for the duration of the exercise.

never forget... a highly intelligent, highly trained married astronaut, when notified about her lover's new gf, drove from Texas to Florida wearing a diaper (to prevent frequent stops)... and was equipped with duct tape etc. to get rid of her competition.

[–]imPwP9 points10 points  (7 children) | Copy

She got arrested and charged for her stupid behavior

[–]omega_dawg9324 points25 points  (6 children) | Copy

over-emotional, reckless, irrational behavior... that was NOT stupid until she reflected on it afterwards.

women e.a.t. = emote then act then think (consequences don't matter).

men t.e.a. = think then emote then act with those emotions in-check.

[–]imPwP4 points5 points  (5 children) | Copy

Damn. I must say that's some wise shit.

[–]omega_dawg932 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy

thx. original observations...

[–]yallareweak0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Doubt it but interesting nonetheless

[–]yallareweak0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Not in a hater way, but like theres probably psychologist out there whose observed and documented this.

[–]omega_dawg931 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

maybe so but all men should know that women operate on emotions first... then think about the consequences.

that's basic shit.

that's how they end up nursing their hamster to strength after catching a glob of DNA from chad a/o tyrone.

[–]yallareweak0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Lmaooooo the good ol the globbery

[–]StoneHurk44 points45 points  (8 children) | Copy

How marriage is completely unnecessary for a man the Western Hemisphere. I'm still too young for my parents to nag me about marriage but I'm mentally trying to prepare myself for the eventual day where I have to sit them down and tell them I do not want a marriage. I have brought it up with them in the past but they just hamster it off as me being too young and immature to understand the true value of marriage.

[–]dj10413 points4 points  (7 children) | Copy

Do you want a family?

[–]StoneHurk54 points55 points  (6 children) | Copy

Maybe. But just because I want kids doesn't mean I should have em. Until I'm at point in my life where I'm well off enough and be willing to make the sacrifices for the kids, I do not deserve to have em. I need to become successful myself first before entertaining the idea of starting a family.

If I'm gonna be having kids, I'm gonna make sure I do a damn good job at raising them. Too many people have kids for the sake of having em or because society says getting married and having kids is what you're supposed to do, regardless if you're actually ready or not. But we just end up with a bunch of little shit heads running around raised by people who have no idea what the fuck they're doing.

[–]MichaelLifeLessons[S] 26 points27 points  (0 children) | Copy

If I'm gonna be having kids, I'm gonna make sure I do a damn good job at raising them

I love your attitude brother

Imagine how great society would be if this was the mentality of the majority

[–]MyDarkSideOfTheMoon6 points7 points  (3 children) | Copy

I like this. I make enough to live comfortably, but if I had kids I would be dirt poor, loving off of foodstamps. Thats why I avoid dating, or any kind of social life really. I can only provide for myself, and wouldn't dare drag someone into this world of I couldn't give them the best opportunities. Im sick of these poor ass people with way more children than they have any business having, and I refuse to be a part of the problem.

[–]geo_gan4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

That’s problem with humanity. Those fuckers multiply like rabbits while the thoughtful & intelligent die out. The start of movie Idiocracy illustrates this to depressingly hilarious results.

[–]AnEyeForAnAye1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

The only movie that started off as a fiction, and ended up being a documentary.

[–]geo_gan0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

And if Boris Johnson gets in as PM of UK it will be the exact same thing there too. That guy drinks his Gatorade

[–]dj10410 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Right on man. I’ve found that some of my friends who has the most perfect families have the more “little shits” in comparison

[–]CharlesChadworth51 points52 points  (4 children) | Copy

How far a guy will go for a gash that bleeds every month.

[–]MichaelLifeLessons[S] 22 points23 points  (1 child) | Copy

Men are hardwired and socially engineered to be thirsty

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

You don’t need to convince an animal that it needs to reproduce.

[–]jackandjill223 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy


[–]fartt1232 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is where i fail. I don't chase when others doing so much. When they start the come chase me, I just let them go. I drop them too quick. I think might have to suck it up and chase in the beginning.

[–]babybopp21 points22 points  (5 children) | Copy

For me it is the power of abundance. Pre selected men are always more attractive.

If you are on a starter pack, fucking lie that you are in a relationship to a girl you meet at a club and see how much more interested in you she will be.

[–]Aymane221-2 points-1 points  (4 children) | Copy

So pre selected do you need to be seen talking to women? That means ur pre selected?

[–]Huffnagle2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

Please read the sidebar.

[–]Aymane221-4 points-3 points  (2 children) | Copy

It does I know

[–]Huffnagle0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

If you know, why are you asking really basic questions that would be better answered by actually reading the sidebar material?

[–]Aymane221-5 points-4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Because I like discussing this shit.

[–]PincheeWhey15 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy

Hypergamy. Pretty much the 9 rules from the Rationale Male. Experiencing all this first hand With a chick that said wanted to be with me “forever” and have my kids and would be “loyal no matter what” LOL

[–]somboodee15 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy

We live in a society

[–]DrExtra7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

Self sabotage is in their nature. That's why they get so butthurt and do everything to get a ex back especially when he ends up transforming from a beta to a alpha post breakup. They dont think about long term actions they just do shit.

[–]MayonaiseH0B014 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy

That if you try bringing any male issues up for a simple discussion more often than not you will be vilified and put in one word category to describe your whole personality like “racist/sexist/patriarchy” while most women are just female chauvinists.

[–]DBOLsinyourmouth13 points14 points  (2 children) | Copy

Women loving opportunistically, and being incapable of truly romantic love. While men are the ones that do love romantically. It's so directly counter to the mainstream thought that men are the vain and callous ones when it comes to love and relationships.

[–]JyoungPNG0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This is what people mean when they talk about the cruel nature of life. We are raised and conditioned to believe a false narrative and once we uncover the truth, it hits you like a fucking brick. The realization that “she’s not yours, it’s just your turn” absolutely sucks. I think the gays have found the secret to escaping women and finding love.

[–]_Last_Man_Standing_12 points13 points  (2 children) | Copy

Briffault’s Law

The female, not the male, determines all the conditions of the animal family. Where the female can derive no benefit from association with the male, no such association takes place.

There are a few corollaries:

  1. Past benefit provided by the male does not provide for continued or future association.

  2. Any agreement where the male provides a current benefit in return for a promise of future association is null and void as soon as the male has provided the benefit (see corollary 1)

  3. A promise of future benefit has limited influence on current/future association, with the influence inversely proportionate to the length of time until the benefit will be given and directly proportionate to the degree to which the female trusts the male (which is not bloody likely).

Evolution doesn't give a fuck about what's fair

[–]thetotalpackage7-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

" Where the female can derive no benefit from association with the male, no such association takes place. " This "law" seems a little too under-developed for me. Flip it...wouldnt it also be true that if a woman offers no value to man, no association will take place? This is just common sense...not some revelation. Maybe I am missing something.

[–]umizumiz5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

The stereotype of the selfless man stopping to change a woman's tire.

She provided no value.

[–]NOWIFE9 points10 points  (2 children) | Copy

The biggest red pill that I swallowed is that women control men and have since the beginning. Men are gullible and actually believed once they had control. Never did they have any say in their future with a women. The female controls the family element and has now chosen to destroy it.

[–]Saveurselfgurl2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Hell fucking no, shaming and harsh penalties that came with it put men in power. Of course they were able to cheat and cuck their men but if they were caught they were either killed or labeled as an adulterer forcing them to lowest of the low jobs.

[–]NOWIFE1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Slut shaming is a female tactic used against other females. It was at the time the direction of the culture that woman chose. Women as a whole choose the moral direction of society. Women as a group govern what is acceptable behavior from other women and from men as well.

[–]thatdeterminedguy4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

War brides and hypergamy

[–]Theguygotgame7774 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Well, I'd already been extremely skeptical of feminism being a neocon, but what really got to me was how easy it was for alpha males to fuck. I always thought getting women took some finesse. Nowadays I try to be really direct.

[–]sosex19924 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

man I remember partying at the hottest club in San Diego with dudes that’d literally spend $20-50k a night on their table and have bottle shows kind of spectacles. Girls would literally come up from outside the table and whisper in my ear from the non -vip area that they were DTF and would do ANYTHING to kick it with us.

Those times I indulged in too much pleasure as a consequence of girls raining when I’d hangout with these dudes and got distracted from my purpose but this all made me confirm from firsthand experience that Hypergamy is very real and that when you’re a top dawg (perceptually or realistically) sex will never be a concern ...

On a last note having a hedonistic lifestyle also served me as a powerful reminder to always put purpose over pussy. Pleasure is cool but can’t be pedestalized if we want to be our very best versions..

[–]teveza11-3 points-2 points  (0 children) | Copy

a powerful reminder to always put purpose over pussy.

What other purpose is there in life? Being respected in your profession? Inventing something? Climbing a mountain? Do a lot of work and be recognized for it?


I feel more accomplished when I nut inside of a dime, which happens on a daily basis.

[–]Earl_Nightingale4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

That onetis is for betas.

[–]SalporinRP8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

The 80-20 rule

[–]BhishmPitamah10 points11 points  (13 children) | Copy

75% of blacks household are fatherless

[–]Dat_Black_Guy7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

To be black in America.

[–]Aymane2214 points5 points  (11 children) | Copy

Black dudes are redpill as fuck for the most part. Most of em seem like naturals it’s why it’s hard for White dudes to land a black chick

[–]LostInVayne1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

I agree and disagree with you at the same time. Black women are hard to land if your appearance is weak, however rarely white man approach black, especially beautiful women. So I believe that its about the way you carry yourself and how unphased you're about their presence

[–]Slut_Slayer90005 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Attractive white guy here, black women are easy as fuck. Also give the best head bar none.

[–]Aymane2210 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I did have a hot 40 year Old black woman “ask me for directions” one day when I was was shirtless walking through a parking lot leaving my buddy’s pool. Got her number tried to meet up but she flaked

[–]Saveurselfgurl-4 points-3 points  (0 children) | Copy

You should have promised bananas.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy

Lmao wut???? Black chicks are probably the easiest for a white dude. As long as you aren’t a pussy at least, in my experience they aren’t big fans of limp wrists and small dicks.

[–]askmrcia4 points5 points  (4 children) | Copy

Lmao wut???? Black chicks are probably the easiest for a white dude. As long as you aren’t a pussy at least, in my experience they aren’t big fans of limp wrists and small dicks.

They are definitely not. Or in your case this really depends on the type of black chick you're referring too.

Black women tend to date within their race more. If anything Hispanic men will tend to have a better shot.

The types of black women that white guys usually get are the ones who grew up in the suburbs surrounded by whites. Black girls tend to stay within their own social groups like going to black clubs, black hangout spots, hang around with majority black people, ect..

Look up the phrase "invited to the cookout" to get a better sense of what I'm saying.

Unless a white guy is truly putting himself out there as in going to those types of environments then he will struggle with women because seriously how the hell would he even relate to them?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

Yea I’m not talking about ghetto thots. I mean college educated women. Still I doubt ghetto thots would be that hard if I really wanted an std.

[–]askmrcia3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

I know you were not talking about ghetto Thots. I'm talking about the same type of black women you are talking about.

Look up black female athletes and look who they are dating. If you're in college look at who the black females are dating. Black women are one of the most outspoken demographic when it comes to stay dating to your own race.

Black women usually tend to date black guys only because they tend to stick in their own bubble. That's just how it is. When you go to the gym, run 5ks, go to high end clubs or bars, go snowboarding, go rock climbing, ect... How many black women do you see there?

White guys are not slaying black girls like you think they are. Black girls are not easy for white guys.

[–]Aymane2211 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I’ve hit a few off tinder but if it’s in person they’ll usually waste my time. You gotta be dominant as fuck

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I don’t think it’s because we can’t slay, I think we just choose different aesthetics. 90+ % of people marry within their own race, even whites and Hispanics don’t often mix.

[–]yallareweak0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Idk how they do it.

[–]JedYorks7 points8 points  (3 children) | Copy

Every one is out to get you. Your job,your employer who you think is cool, watch what you say. Every one trust no one

[–]Project_Zero_Betas2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

Crabs in a bucket is a societal level disease, and cutting down tall poppies is a national pasttime.

[–]push_limits__132 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

This is so disgusting.

[–]Project_Zero_Betas0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Couldn't agree more.

[–]zxcvb78097 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

That men and women have different biological imperatives.

Women want the best option available at the time. This time is determined by their biological clock. They want an alpha while they are at their sexual peak. And they want a beta to decline with. After they have kids they want to try and seek out an alpha again.

Male reproductive strategy is to impregnate as many women as possible.

Men can always get a woman pregnant but, women can only get pregnant every 9 months.

[–]tconrod3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

That it is all true

[–]dm2222 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

That it was allnij front of me all the time, I just didnt want to believe it

[–]teveza112 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

That a philosophy called "red pill" exists, and has a lot in common with FACTS that I know about through experience.

[–]Project_Zero_Betas1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Same. I think the most shocking RP truth I found was that there was a whole sub dedicated to exactly what I had observed throughout life.

[–]Radinax2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

How HUGE of a deal going to the gym actually was.

Honestly even how we look, groom, smell, everything is crucial in the eyes of women, since then I started going to the gym.

[–]Thunderfin1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

  • Looks matter very little; it's all about charisma/game.

  • Attraction has an expiry date

  • AWALT (seeing it in action)

[–]YourShadowScholar0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You can lie in the Internet to strangers but you’re really just hurting yourself. No one with half a brain would believe you could read through several hundred comments in 30 seconds lmao Reddit takes longer than 30 seconds just to load the numerous pages of comments you’d have to go though.

What do you get out of telling such wildly obvious lies? Do you masturbate to this?

[–]TooManyThots0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

As far as eye opening. Chadfishing was pretty devestating to the ego. Basically the knowledge that every girls I meet has a n-count of 20 + 5 more every year over 20.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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