How do I make what I say more persuasive?

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June 28, 2019
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Hi guys. Any recommended sources/guides on how to make what you say more persuasive


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Title How do I make what I say more persuasive?
Author embracingtheredpill
Upvotes 58
Comments 31
Date 28 June 2019 10:54 AM UTC (1 year ago)
Subreddit askTRP
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/243744
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/asktrp/comments/c6iru7/how_do_i_make_what_i_say_more_persuasive/
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[–]1TyroneTheDriver134 points135 points  (11 children) | Copy

Don't touch your face when you speak to people. Speak calmly and plainly. Maintain eye contact. Smile. Speak as little as possible.

Also, you're requests have to be reasonable for the current situation, dynamic, and exchange. If you're looking on how to persuade a car dealership to give you a car for free, for example, give up now. If you're looking to persuade your boss to promote you, first, lay a concrete foundation of reliability down, and then through your actions, persuade them you are reliable and trustworthy.

After they know you to be a good worker, you can work on communicating asking for more responsibility. The best way to be persuasive is to already have the power and be willing to walk away. The one who has the power in any relationship is the one who needs the other less.

If you're looking for human tips, touch, eye contact, calmness, all matter. You have to be confident in what you're requesting to the point that getting a no isn't in your frame of reference. Specifically with women, your frame has to be already established, and you have to be willing to walk away.

There are methods of selling over the phone and in person to make your argument more persuasive, and mostly its let the other person talk more. Become able to empathize with everyone. EVERYTHING is grey, there is no black and white (besides AWALT), and you can and should be able to put yourself in the shoes of each and every person and be able to rationalize their positions enough to understand where they're coming from. When you can make the other feel as if you understand them, they are more easily persuaded to follow you.

Basic leadership takes on certain forms. In the military for example, leadership comes with a lot of responsibility. The basic mentality (of a good leader) should always be to lead from the front. Pull the sleigh, dont ride in the back. Naturally, your position as leader will emerge if you always attempt to take on more than your cohorts, routinely succeed, and offer your assistance. Never ask someone to do something you wouldn't do yourself or haven't done yourself a thousand times. This is all a part of empathizing with ones experience so they realize you have their best interests at heart.

Stand tall. Speak slowly and confidently, and know your audience and dynamic. Speak from experience. Speak from the heart. Look men and women in the eyes. At the end of the day they know what you're requesting of them needs to get done, if you've laid down the foundation beforehand.

[–]AnEyeForAnAye13 points14 points  (1 child) | Copy

These sort of comments are greatly appreciated by many here. Thanks for taking the time

[–]1TyroneTheDriver16 points17 points  (0 children) | Copy

When you have had to grind for decent mentor ship, you realize so many others could stand to have one themselves. We exist here to help one another. Any time brother.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (5 children) | Copy

Straight up dude: post this as a thread in the main sub.

[–]1TyroneTheDriver2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy

Eh, not really my style to post. You’re welcome to take it.

[–]Project_Zero_Betas2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

Which post got you your point?

[–]1TyroneTheDriver8 points9 points  (2 children) | Copy

I cant link or it will get deleted, but this comment on a young guy asking how to become a man.

"A man needs a few things in his life to feel like he has a purpose.

You need to maintain your body. Get into a fitness routine. I always recommend joining a boxing gym. Besides the fantastic workout and skill set you develop, you meet people, and develops inner fortitude and mental and physical toughness.

You need to be part of social groups. I joined a Freemason lodge. 2 nights a month (at the minimum, there are plenty of other events sporadically) I throw on a suit, shine my shoes, and go socialize with other like minded men.

You need a job, you need money. Do what you can for now, but you should do whatever it takes to graduate college with a degree that means something. Computer science, mathematics, finance, economics. This will improve your earning potential drastically.

You need to read about other great men. Read up on the stoics. If you haven’t read Meditations by Marcus Aurelius yet you should order t off amazing really cheap. It’s a twice a year essential read.

Develop your spirituality through philosophical exploration. You don’t need to believe in god, but having a profound connection to the universe and understanding your minuscule yet extremely important place within it will give you calm during a storm and peace of mind.

Mind and body are so connected, each follows the other. If you’re out of shape your mind will wander and you will feel weak and powerless, if your mind is focused on negatives your routine and discipline will wane.

The red pill isn’t just about picking up women, it’s understanding that self improvement never ever ends."

[–]Project_Zero_Betas1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Solid. This sub or the main one?

[–]1TyroneTheDriver1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

This was here, I don't post really ever. I've been sticking to askTRP insteadof TRP recently.

[–]neatbranch3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'll add to this great comment, watch this scene of the great actor Javier Bardem.

youtu.be/ih6Baoop5G4

He is calm, acertive, talks slowly, deep and has a solid frame.

[–]cpotpie117 points18 points  (1 child) | Copy

Way of the Wolf- by Jordan Belfort (talks about how to sell things. A lot of story telling in the book and I wish he would just get straight to the point but overall, useful information, especially about the goal oriented communication)

Influence and Persuasion by Cialdini (already mentioned in the comments. Just talks about the universal pieces of influence)

Dictionary of Body Language by Joe Navarro (helps you see how people are reacting to what you are saying so you can adjust)

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Thanks.

[–]acp_rdit40 points41 points  (0 children) | Copy

Add "motherfucker" to the end of every statement, motherfucker

[–]Fuktiga_mejmejs4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

As top comment said, the most important thing in conversation and bargaining is to be willing to walk away, as soon as you show that you don't really care the entire conversation can flip on its head.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Persuasion Principles by Robert Cialdini

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Will check out

[–]JoePants2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Look up "Sullivan nod."

[–]nobody_thinks0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

never knew this had a name. see it all the time. works pretty well. cheers.

[–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

Wiggle a $50 bill in front of their face.

[–]ttann713 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Or if it’s a stripper about 10 ones should do the trick

[–]uptimex1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Start from strategy not tactics. All the non-verbal part is tactics. First learn "what" to say and after "how" to say. It would be much easier.

[–]Capt_Am1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Do things you said you're gonna do, that's the ultimate.

[–]WIA20XX3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Influence and Pre-Suasion by Cialdini.

That's the start, but you'll see how persuasive techniques are used throughout human society and find it everywhere and in everything. From interface design, to menus, to books, to the news, with animals, within your family.

[–]redblueninja0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I found "Never split the difference" to be a great book. Go with the audiobook. You can find it on any torrent site.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Thanks

[–]___Lana___0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Less talking, more action.

[–]aucunejus0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Speak louder

[–]Greaterbird-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Happier and with your mouth more open

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Flash your breasts. This works if you're a man too, but not effectively.

[–]Aesthetic_God__-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Believe the shit you say. Congruency, remember?

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Well, what are you trying to say, specifically? This is a vague question. Because I think it stands to reason that no matter how persuasive one is, if you say something like, "Hey, will you eat this bowl of dog poop for me, please?" You're probably not going to get many takers.



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