Yourself or Pussy? More pussy won’t make you happier, so how do you make the most of your (precious) time?

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July 19, 2019


Long time lurker on TRP subreddit but never really posted anything, just replied when I felt compelled to.

I’m single since January, was in couple for about 4 years. As long as I can remember, never really been blue pill and pretty much naturally red pilled, even if I did have a PUA phase in my first year of college before I realized it was pretty weak and that the whole goal was to improve my life, not to get more pussy. Pussy just follow when you maintain frame and have your shit together.

As for me, I’m 33, have a Masters degree, a good career, a nice little place, a motorcycle, I workout, yada yada yada. I’m fairly good looking but on the short side (barely 5 feet 9).

I have 2 goals in this post. An affirmation followed by my question (hence AskTRP).

1. Tell those who doubt it that having more pussy won’t make you happier.

2. A question : for guys who got a lot of pussy, how do you prioritize? How do you make the most of your time?

1. Having more pussy won’t make you happier. Ok so like I said, since January I’m back on the meat market. I was living with my ex so let’s say I had to live with my parents in February and only got my new apartment in March so that’s when I got back on Bumble. I live in Montreal and women here are usually pretty cute. It’s easy if you have a good description and good pictures + are funny. Well in the first month, I fucked like 12 new girls very easily. Usually I escalate to sex real quick in the texts, find a nice bar around my place, go there and grab a couple of drinks then leave to my place. It’s not hard if you’re used to it, it’s a routine. Women respond to the same stuff and I was already OK with it before I met my ex so it came back naturally real quick. I also started to just invite girls to my place for a glass of wine, skipping the bar entirely and most of the time, when they come here, we fuck.

Fast forward to today, I have a whole new problem, which is time. I work a 9 to 5 job in a bank and time is my most precious resource. As I’m writing this I’m spinning 6 plates and this shit is EXHAUSTING. And before you comment on those girls being low quality, these are college educated girls, about HB7 to HB8.5. Very good looking girls. Yes I love sex, I’m high libido (I left my ex because she was vanilla and the sex was sparse) but the thing is it’s consuming most of my free time. And yet I still feel like I HAVE to fuck when a girl text me. Of course now I deleted Bumble cause I can’t fuck more than I do but still, I fuck almost every single day a different plate. The consequences are that I can’t focus on my workouts, my social life isn’t as good as it should be, it’s hard to cook because that takes time, don’t have time to read anymore, I lack sleep, don’t see much of my family, have trouble finding time to ride my motorcycle, etc. When you think about it, spending all this time on pussy actually makes me a lesser man. And it really feels like a second job sometimes, as I could just jerk off and be done in 10 min then go on with my shits instead of watching Netflix with a girl I don’t give a fuck about. Bottom line : more pussy won’t make you happier.

2. My question for this community : for guys who got a lot of pussy, how do you prioritize? How do you make the most of your time?

Like I said, time became my most precious resource and I feel like I should maximize it instead of spending it on pussy. My rational brain knows it’s the thing to do but I guess I’ve been conditioned to think I have to fuck girls to « be a man » or to be happy. Must be an ego trip or some shit like that. And a quote from the book Zorba the Greek really stuck with me :

“If a woman sleeps alone it puts a shame on all men. God has a very big heart, but there is one sin He will not forgive. If a woman calls a man to her bed and he will not go.” ― Nikos Kazantzakis, Zorba the Greek

Please share your experiences on this issue if it happened to you. How did you realize you had too much? Did some of you intentionally broke your plates to make sure you have more free time? How did you do it? Did your happiness level increased?

Thanks for your feedback!

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Title Yourself or Pussy? More pussy won’t make you happier, so how do you make the most of your (precious) time?
Author Fuckovski
Upvotes 107
Comments 77
Date 19 July 2019 02:33 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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[–][deleted] 110 points111 points  (32 children) | Copy

Personally I don't think sex is worth it most of the time. More often than not, when I'm done I'm left with the feeling that I just wasted hours and hours just to come into a wet hole (in actuality, a latex wrapper).

And this isn't a buffer against rejection or putting in effort. I've ignored and canceled dates with many attractive women. I just texted a big titted 21 year old to cancel our date tomorrow because she lived too far away.

I'm working towards the goals in my life that truly matter right now, and at the end of the day it feels like all that sexual lust has been repurposed towards my work.

The only real goal of PUA communities (especially places like RSD) is SEX SEX SEX. Nothing else matters to them. I think it's bullshit. Sex and relationships should be a bonus to your life, something that falls right at your feet as you get your shit together and work towards your goals. But for me, even now it's starting to fall into my lap (the big titted 21 year old actually approached me at a bar and asked for my number...) and i'm STILL turning it down because I just don't give a fuck.

Monk mode is a real thing, and while for some people it may be a way to rationalize not putting in effort, for others it's a very real place. I can't even imagine spinning 6 plates, even if they're all 9s. I really don't even have the patience for a one night stand. I'm starting to realize that only the highest quality women are worth your time: very low maintenance, loyal, supportive, undying affection, and who don't require constant attention.

[–]Fuckovski[S] 18 points19 points  (4 children) | Copy

Thanks for the reply, loved to read you man. Working toward your goals should be the priority.

[–]EnemyAsmodeus11 points12 points  (3 children) | Copy

We always realize (especially the younger guys who haven't had sex, or had very little of it) that sex is in our minds because of hormones and we waste so much of our energy for it for little gain. WE just so badly want to believe it will be as awesome as our fantasies and our porn etc. And it's usually a disappointment with a lot of risk.

[–]rnsbrum5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

Exactly. Problem is, what do you do about it? I'm currently running a cycle and my test is through the roof, all I wanna do is fucking bang everything that moves 5 times a day. Its very annoying.

[–]EnemyAsmodeus0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Just self-discipline may be the main thing.

[–]lookoutitscaleb10 points11 points  (4 children) | Copy


I've been trying to spin plates and after the first ONS I just don't give a damn. Not to mention I don't really have time to take them out or have them over.

If I have free time (which is rare I work 50+ hrs a wk) I would rather spend that at the gym, reading, playing music, or floating. After that I have enough time to go out maybe 1 time a week and I usually spend that time with family (2hrs ish).

Constantly have ONS ask me "why don't you have a gf". I just don't have time. I barely have time for ONS.

[–]Blackcurls 1 points [recovered]  (3 children) | Copy

What's floating?

[–]lookoutitscaleb4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

Deprivation tank floating.

[–]Blackcurls 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

What in the world is that? Sounds cool.

[–]lookoutitscaleb2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's a sensory deprivation tank.

So like a tank, with all the lights off, filled with like 6 inches of water that has tons and tons of Epsom salt mixed in. The salt in the water makes you float so your whole body relaxes, the tank is temp controlled so your body doesn't have to regulate it's temp, and the no lights means no ocular senses are working and it's pretty sound proof ish.

Basically you float in salt water with no lights or sound. It's incredibly relaxing and meditative. I love doing it and try to go at least once a week if I get the time. Depending on where you go you can float for 60 mins or more however long you want to reserve the tank for. I recommend everyone to try it. Only downfall is it is pretty expensive.

Like yoga, gym, meditating I find it very beneficial and have been blessed to be able to have it as a part of my schedule.

If you want to try it out Google Deprivation Tanks near me or Float Deprivation Tank near me etc.

[–]its_going_down_3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

That's because RSD is there to help guys that don't get sex. Nowadays they're actually more legit than they used to be in the past, because they do actually focus on self-improvement these days. Anyway, whatever your opinion on pua/rsd is, you can only understand that ONS etc often are not worth it when you actually have them. Not all guys are in the same stage of their journey. If you struggle with talking to women, how are you gonna attract the "high quality" women you're mentioning. Etc

[–]TehJimmyy2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

and here i am hitting 22 today thinking sex all day and getting depressed for being a virgin

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

So what. I was a virgin until I was 21, and the rest of my early-mid 20s were still a complete disaster.

Think of sex as a purely hedonistic act, because that's all it really is. It doesn't mean anything.

[–]ElXToro0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Pretty much same boat, 20. Just as the folks say - prioritise your goals. Short term pleasure comes second. That, doe, does require a lot of effort.

[–]Endorsed ContributorFereallyRed49 points50 points  (0 children) | Copy

When you achieve abundance, the goal of attaining abundance is no longer valid nor a driver in your life.

Common problem here.

Guys need pussy. Put in the work, get focused, grind. Increase SMV, approach, plate. Spin plates.

Realize that now pussy is not valuable nor difficult to obtain.

Paradigm shift.... need a new goal.

Get pussy goal checked off.

What's next?

[–]goldenjaguar1162 points63 points  (8 children) | Copy

It’s like what lilwayne said: “as soon as I cum I come to my senses”

[–]disciplinedFreedom51 points52 points  (5 children) | Copy

Dude is a fucking poet. Reminds me of a Bill Burr quote: "Women are constantly patting themselves on the back for how difficult their lives are and no one corrects them because they want to fuck ‘em." Sums up society today.

[–]vullnet12318 points19 points  (1 child) | Copy

“Got my heart broken by a woman named Tammy, but hoes gon be hoes so I couldn’t blame Tammy”

Rappers are usually red pilled, especially the ones who are in their 30-40s now. Juicy J has a ton of great lines also

[–]disciplinedFreedom6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Rappers and old school comedians who didn’t get bitten by the PC bug

[–]discohumpty9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

"I'm better than you" - Patrice O'Neal (in reference to any woman)

[–]EnemyAsmodeus4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

So many women I know who should have been fired and weren't... because of that reason and also because people just wanna be nice.

[–]lifeisweirdasfuck33 points34 points  (0 children) | Copy

“Directly after copulation, the devil’s laughter is heard.”

– Arthur Schopenhauer

[–]illusiveab4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Ah yes, kenja time

[–]adrich86 1 points [recovered]  (4 children) | Copy

Got to have fun with it. I got bored and started making a spreadsheet of what it cost me to fuck each girl. Most expensive one was a girl that was a hour away. Between gas, drinks ,ect. I was in it for just under $200 for two fucks. Cheapest was girl that lived within two miles of myself and my place of employment. Met her after work. She had the tab open and then went to her place and fucked her. I was in it for about $1.50 for gas.

[–]phillip4206925 points26 points  (0 children) | Copy

Brings whole new meaning to numbers game.

[–]Project_Zero_Betas5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

What discount rate you using?

[–]SesameStreetPimp4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

This should be mandatory for redpillers on a budget fuck.

[–]jamesbond81810 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Damn no fuck for 0$?

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (3 children) | Copy

It's always worth it to sacrifice a lesser pleasure for a greater pleasure.

As a teenager I exercised, yet I ate like crap and I watched porn. Then older and a little wiser, I sacrificed the porn and began eating a meticulous diet. The small, transient pleasure was sacrificed in order to get very shredded and I began doing the things I used to watch other men do in porn videos.

However at the end of the day, you're still just placing your meat stick into a wet hole, and there are far greater things out there waiting for us.

[–]Qba19940 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Greater things? Any examples

[–]Mr_Flim_Flam9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

His examples may not be as great to you. What do you enjoy outside of pussy? Before trp, females and sex were on my mind constantly. Now with a much higher n count, and a greater sense of myself, I know I enjoy learning different aspects to continue my life forward. I enjoy going out with my boys to play basketball. I could continue but you have to figure out what you want life to be besides getting laid.

[–]dpgproductions6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Setting goals and challenging yourself, whether it’s moving up in your career, mastering a skill or hobby you’ve be wanting to learn but haven’t forced yourself to start, etc. Also spending time with friends and especially family (if you’re fortunate enough to have a family that loves you and wants you around) is something that many people neglect until they grow old and find themselves full of regret for not realizing it sooner. None of this is meant to say that pussy is a worthless endeavor, but if you’re just chasing it as a way to validate yourself personally and/or socially, you may want to reevaluate your priorities at some point.

[–]zboo1h23 points24 points  (0 children) | Copy

You "have" to fuck because you're a slave to women. Turn them all down for a week and see how you feel. You may find that your dealers don't appreciate it when you don't let them give you their drug.

[–]sanos710 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

Can relate. It just happens once you hit a decent body count. My answer is spending my time on more important things. Weekday evenings for hobbies. Weekends for family and friends. If a girl seems high quality I’ll fit her in by letting her join stuff I was going to be doing anyway. If she’s cool we can hang alone.

[–]jon_ster9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy

Agree with #1. Get off the apps man, anyone can get a couple lays in a week off em. These apps incite a cyber affect that keeps you coming back for more. It’s the dopamine rush.

As far as time. Make an audit. What are your morning/afternoon/ evening routines?

Make note and compare them to your goals and passions.

Adjust accordingly.

Personally, I took a step back and made adjustments. Wake up same time, same breakfast morning routine, scheduled workout routine throughout the week, reserve select dates and schedule time with people who matter in my life.

I’ve since added jiu jitsu and more phone call and in person conversations to my routine.

Everyday is different but I strive to stay on the path and be the “ubermensch” described by Nietzche.

[–]setsuna00 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I'm trying to achieve that consistency. It's a little difficult for me to stick to a solid routine.

[–]SolidLiquidGasPlasma19 points20 points  (0 children) | Copy

My dad told me once “ nothing wrong with a little side pussy”. That means a little side pussy. Ancient kings didn’t have 100 wives for 100 side pussys they were pick which they wanted to raise the future king with. Don’t keep more than 3 plates in my option. “ more money more problems” why? Cause bitches love money. Yeah you got plates, look what you’re eating...barracudas

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

very good post thank you. more pussy is simply more complex masturbation. goals and skill and personal evolution is what matters in life, and a good female match will be drawn to to a guy who pursues those things.

[–]FoxMag14 points15 points  (3 children) | Copy

Yup. I know how you feel, after I lost my virginity I went on a fucking rampage and notched over 130 girls within 4 years. Now I'm just like fuck it, I don't even care anymore. I have better things to focus on. In all of those girls I've met one who was actually quality and put in a huge amount of effort towards me, but I was too inexperienced and immature to recognize quality when I had it, I just wanted as much pussy as I could get. Such is life I suppose.

Now I don't even bother with them, I've got 1 fuck buddy that gives me free food and drinks (her dad owns a chain of restaurants around here), so I just eat and drink on the restaurant's dime and fuck her when I'm bored and need an outlet and I don't spend a dime on her except for gas in getting there. Trying to focus mainly on myself now after my last failed relationship.

[–]RD54 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

How did you do 130 in 4? Did you consciously go for it? Did you have a plan, or just noticed you got better at game and it just became easier? Or you felt like you needed/wanted to do it and did it?

In short what's your motivation/m.o.?

[–]FoxMag10 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy

The more I was around girls the easier and easier it got. When I first started gaming I was nervous as fuck, even shaking when going in for the kiss (so much so that my first LTR commented on it). Once I lost my virginity it's like the flood gates opened (I was a late bloomer, didn't lose it until I was 27). After about the 10th girl I fucked they no longer intimidated me no matter how good they looked. The more and more you're around them the more you realize they are nothing fucking special. They are slabs of meat just like you and their lives have an end date just like yours.

IDGAF mentality while not overtly being an asshole goes a long way. And so does having a nice body. But like I said, I'm passed all that now. There gets to be a point in time where you really do realize that sticking your dick in a wet hole for the sake of it is entirely overrated. But for the vast majority of men it's one of those things you have to experience to realize. It's liberating and almost depressing in a way, because once you realize that pussy isn't all that fulfilling, you have to come face to face with yourself in the mirror and ask yourself what you're really looking for out of life.

[–]EveryEntrance52 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Felt this one straight to my bones. Take my upvote!

[–]captaintrippay6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Prioritize your plates.

Instead of, “how many women can I sleep with//how many plates can I spin?” Tell yourself, “I got 4 slots open on my draft team who’s tryna play?”

Basically man you gotta take your plates and pick your top 3-4. Break down what you value most from these relationships..

It’s a rinse and repeat cycle but the grind never stops that’s life.

Edit: The best part of this is that usually the girls you prioritize wanna know more about YOU. Aka, take them on a ride on your bike. Ask them to come exercise with you, etc. They’ll gladly come with you and if you’ve done your mf job right you’ll enjoy having them along.

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy

This belongs in r theredpill

[–]thrwy754798 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's natural.

Everyone hits a plateau after which there is no return on fucking more girls. Your values shift, and you start prioritizing other things over pussy.

Where that plateau is varies from one guy to the next. Is it a certain n-count? Is it an age? Is it a mindset? Is it hormones? Perhaps a combination? It's hard to say.

Look towards developing other goals in your life, be they financial targets, or altruistic missions, or perhaps settling down. It's your life, so it's up to you.

Don't try to be happy, instead strive to simply be.

[–]T-P-T-W-P 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

It comes in waves dude. Right now, I only have one fairly casual chick that comes over once or twice a week. It works because we both have busy schedules that tend to match, she’s also pretty hot/submissive yada yada. Some weeks one time is definitely enough and sometimes I wanna bang her or other chicks most nights of the week. Earlier this summer I had several plates and was doing just that and gradually burnt out from the time and juggling. I would say the biggest key is to work on yourself, make weaknesses serviceable and strengths stronger, and have the ability to have women whenever you feel like. My SMV is at a point where I can have an average chicks over every night with little effort or go out and put a little work in for higher value women and be successful. The main thing is I prioritize things over women that should certainly be of more importance in all men and that I am confident in my ability to have sex really at any point in time. From there I’m just living life.

[–]setsuna00 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

How did you find your strengths and weaknesses? I feel like I have it all except money. Yet my luck with women is trash

[–]Sendmeloveletters3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

I get mad P but it doesn’t make me happier. The only thing that makes me happy is “having someone” which doesn’t exist so I’ve deprioritized happiness.

[–]redpilllogin2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

3 plates or less is ideal for me, then maybe find a new plate every 2-3 months to replace an old one. Having 1-2 long term fwb works too. My main concern is myself, my career and my future. Pussy is just a need, like food and sleep. As long as you get the minimum (for me it's once per week) you're okay.

[–]SalporinRP1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

What is this humblebrag bullshit post?

Ok you get too much HB7+ pussy (probably 5s and 6s). So cut a few bitches off and make time in your life for the more important shit.

Be a man and take control of your life.

[–]Fuckovski[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Lol. I knew id get the humble brag shit, actually congrats you’re the first one to call it. It’s not. But yeah, at the end you’re right I’m the one in control.

[–]2INNASKILLZ2K180 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Just make a choice, dude. It's not rocket science.

Have some discipline and some consequential thinking.

If you can't choose to do something else, you have poor self-control.

[–]besurks0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I work 9-7. Personally what I do is workout in the mornings before work at least 4 days a week and taking weekends off. The days I have off I usually go out the night before, bang whoever I want, or do whatever I want. During the days I’ll hangout with the same girl or a different one and do stuff during the days. I’m balancing 3 plates right now which I think is a fair amount. It’s actually really easy as long as you don’t take on to many plates at once. Because I’m always busy I’m constantly having to cycle plates which is fine, but that just means they’ve found something more appealing. Usually those plates come back a few months later.

[–]Atriplex1240 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You need a little bit of pussy just so you have something to stand on. I'm mgtow, but if a 15 year old Virgin kid comes to me for advice ill to him to go experience shit. There's some things you need to live yourself to truly know. Don't get em pregnant and don't fall in love and your good.

[–]Foolishoe0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I'm not reading this, just going to say life is meaningless and you make of this life what you will, but it doesnt matter.

[–]Bedtimeshine0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Wrong. More pussy does, in fact, make you more happy

[–]Fuckovski[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Seems like you don’t have enough pussy if you still think that.

[–]jamesbond81810 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

I think that this pedestalization of women is so ingrained in our brain that even when we have amazing game, we still want to fuck just for the sake of fucking because it gives us value.

Good on you for realizing there are greater things in life (your own kingdom, your own business empire, starting a revolution, etc)

[–]Fuckovski[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Thanks. Self awareness is really important and it’s something to realize how pussy takes place in mens brain. When you think about a lot of over achievers, they just got this box checked with a regular person. Think Gates, Bezos (he was married while building his empire), Federer, Djokovic, yada yada yada. Most successful entrepreneurs are married because they can focus on something else than pussy.

[–]jamesbond81810 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yes, and you’ve had your fun. And it’s not like you don’t have game, so you can always have more fun. Maybe you could pick a girl or two from the six plates that you enjoy the most and that’s it. And if the plate breaks get another one.

I feel as though that most TRPers yes they develop frame etc but they are still chasing girls, it’s just that they got better at it but they are associating their value with girls, thinking that since they get girls they are valuable males, and guys who are married but are at powerful positions nonetheless are simps

[–]maljo240 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Fourth Law of Thermodynamics: more pussy = more happy

[–]Fuckovski[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy


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