The Number 1 Turn Off I Keep Hearing From Women

huggyblossom · 2019-07-24T15:08:00+00:00

To add up, stop with the pointless chatting and talking - it's useless and it's a major turn off for literally every women you want to have sex with.

If you want to orbit her, over validate her, over invest in her or white knight her go on and do not be unaware where your lack of sex is coming from.

ihaphleas · 2019-07-24T17:44:57+00:00

Women are attracted to power. Different types of power attract different women more or less. What is "power?" Borrowing from physics (which borrowed from standard usage), power is the ability to get work done quickly.

Being indecisive will really affect a man's ability to get shit done quickly. Not that women always want a man to do things fast, but decisiveness, strength, wealth, friends, political power, high ranking job, confidence (from having succeeding in doing the thing before) ... all of these indicate or are a form of power.

Power is good, power simply means that your able to do the things that need (or you want) to be done for yourself and your friends. Become as powerful as you can ... as long as your not actively harming others, you're making the entire world a better place by providing more value.

zurow · 2019-07-24T16:38:31+00:00

This is why cold approaching in public can work great if you’re confident in your approach. Right away she will be impressed you were bold enough to approach her but you have to be confident in everything you say and do. Even if she shoots you down stay confident and never apologize or back pedal.

umarh0n · 2019-07-24T16:08:57+00:00

Partly true, Don’t tell them what you’ll going to do, otherwise, you’ll ruin the mystery. Do take the control, do make the decision, but don’t tell her all about them, just lead her to your decision.

esirnus18 · 2019-07-24T19:00:58+00:00

This is so true! My current main plate that I’m seeing regularly (other 2 I’m seeing increasingly less, and less maybe time to upgrade to LTR?) She has two orbiters and one is really pushing for her to be his girlfriend. I asked her why won’t you give “Johnny” a chance and she said “I always have to make decisions when we meet for dinner, bowling...etc. He will spend more time making sure I like the place or keep asking if I’m ok with everything cause he can change the place if I want to and it’s so exhausting to keep making all these decisions why can’t a guy just lead and be a man”

Some years ago I used to be like Johnny I would make sure my little princes is happy with every choice I’ve made, now I just say “hey I’m here...(enter place whatever) come. She usually comes then I’m just saying let’s get outa here and we go and she follows. When she asks to go to her gym to work out with her I simply say “no thanks” I don’t even need to explain myself it leave her guessing. The reason is stupid - her gym sucks and everyone there is just making fucking selfies and pretend to look cool, and there is no squat rack.

Be yourself. Don’t be her boyfriend, let her be your girlfriend.

Sisyphus_XIV · 2019-07-24T15:39:05+00:00

Good post. For me, this is THE RP truth that most changed my life. For those still struggling, No More Mr Nice Guy is an absolute great read.

Bear-With-Bit · 2019-07-24T23:55:15+00:00

Woman: "What should we have for dinner?"

Man: "McDonald's."

Woman: "I don't want that."

Man: "Okay, you can get whatever you want. I'm heading out now to get some McNuggets. Lmk if you change your mind and want something from there."

Woman: (pikachiu surprised face)

Subsequent lesson is: Be decisive and follow through.

Dls95405 · 2019-07-24T18:07:25+00:00

I'm not indecisive. There is no fucking way I'll monitor myself that much. I will never get involved again with a moronic thot who can't stop spewing her emotional shit because she thinks that's a privilege of being in a relationship. They've become like insufferable children.

isthattheguy · 2019-07-24T16:50:19+00:00

Do not tell her “what you’re going to do with her afterwards”. Just please don’t.

AllThatJack · 2019-07-25T00:01:48+00:00

This is just enormous. I’ve dated sooo many women and have been told consistently “You’re the man”. Simply because I have one question when it comes time for dinner (either in or out). Do you have any food allergies? Next, Do you like to dance?

Never ask a woman what she’d like to do, where she’d like to go, any of it. It’s simply not necessary. She wants you to manage it all. Do it well and you will get laid every time. Do it poorly and yes, she’ll find another man.

Blew my mind when I made this realization. It’s ridiculously simple. If she doesn’t eat seafood yet you insist on constantly taking her to seafood joints, you’re an idiot.

My biggest issue when dating women is picky eaters. I usually find this out in the interview phase. Why? I’m a foodie, who loves to cook and dine out. Food is an adventure to me. Also, I can say, hands down, a woman who will join you in this? For me, has alway’s proven to be just as adventurous in bed.

That’s been my experience.

zboo1h · 2019-07-24T18:39:16+00:00

Women told me their biggest turnoff is too many muscles and an arrogant cockiness.

Also women lie about literally everything, including their eyebrows.

_do_not_read_this_ · 2019-07-24T21:13:43+00:00

It's super important to be aware of this. It can come up at any time. Ask, and if she's indecisive, make the damn decision.

Solid post. Brief and to the point.

Malactha · 2019-07-24T15:47:53+00:00

This is totally true. Women want an adventure but they are incapable of leading such an event. If she doesn't want to do it, leave her behind and do it by yourself. Most of the time they will go. Taking them out to do the fun stuff you want gets them all creamy.

[deleted] · 2019-07-24T16:37:06+00:00

Great post

Being absolutely confident and decisive in relationships with women make wonders

akrc · 2019-07-24T20:23:58+00:00

Me:"Do you want go for nachoes or ribs?" Her:"IDK , you choose ..." Me:"Nachoes then." Her:"NOAHHHHHHH"

Iamthespiderbro · 2019-07-25T01:00:38+00:00

Seriously. I’ve been successful on the dating scene for about 7 years now (not so much at the beginning), and this really is what will set you apart. Especially in big cities that are full of soy boys who are scared of their own shadows. I’ve heard it time and time again on dates. The worst decision you can make is indecision. Make a move, take the lead, and trust your instincts. Even if she questions you afterwards, stand firm. You know better and she will melt for you if you take charge.

DubbleFUPAwitCheez · 2019-07-24T19:54:19+00:00

True. This is also a reason why it is best to do what you want to do.
For example: Let's go to x. Nah, I like y more. Ok, I'm going to x.

Even if she doesn't want to come along it's still what you want. Especially pertinent when coming to choosing restaurants on cheat days. Nothing makes me more irritable than a wasted cheat meal cause it was shitty.

Woujo · 2019-07-25T03:30:09+00:00

Here is a brief passage from an article I am working on:

Betas often have a slight feeling, sometimes from the deepest reaches of their subconscious, that there may be something better that they should be doing. This feeling is existential anxiety. Almost everybody has this deep desire to change their path to a better one, but they have no idea what a “better” path would even be, so they rely on the alpha. In exchange for conformity and obedience, the alpha male alleviates the betas’ existential anxiety by offering them a better path that leads to desirable purposes with no anxiety. When the alpha male insists on the superiority of his purposes, it confirms the betas’ sneaking suspicion that there is a better emotional experience for them. If a man bends to the betas’ purposes, he is not attractive because he is not offering them a superior emotional experience; they are just getting the same emotional experience they were getting before. A man who bends to others’ purposes will be processed by the everybody’s subconscious minds as a beta.

Men often become frustrated when a woman won’t say where she wants to have dinner. Women want men to take the lead and pick a restaurant, not because women need men to tell them what to eat. Women decide what to eat all the time without help from men. The problem is that women, like everybody else, do not know what to do in life, period. And if the man does not have a strong opinion of where to go eat, then her subconscious will assume he cannot lead in any other aspect of life and she will constantly be tormented by existential anxiety. It may sound silly and over-dramatic, but when you pick a restaurant for a woman you are literally communicating that you can create a “safe” reality for her.

TBtgoat · 2019-07-25T02:00:22+00:00

Great leaders think fast and move faster. This isn't limited to women. People will gravitate towards you in life if you can stay collected and take action. Make the decision that feels right at the moment. Execute and follow to the end. If you recognize a better alternative halfway through, learn from it for next time and quickly resume executing your plan.

Useles · 2019-07-25T03:52:29+00:00

TL;DR - don't be needy, either.

The #1 turnoff I heard from women was when the guy was too needy, especially too quickly. Women crave the attention of a high-value man, and neediness is the fastest way to shoo her attention elsewhere.

IMHO, neediness and indecisiveness go hand in hand - needing someone else to make a decision really, really turns women off. The solution is pretty easy - take dinner for example. If you can think of one place to eat, surely you can think of two. If you can't pick between the two, give her a choice, which is far better than indecisiveness.

Anecdote: I plated this girl for a fairly long stretch - regular, good sex on demand. When we first went out, I just told her to be dressed and ready at 7, Italian for dinner. As she sat for dinner, she literally said she appreciated not having to choose where to eat or what to do. A couple hours later, and she was extremely eager when we got back to my place.

She was clearly turned on by the fact that she was not my #1 priority. It turned a lot of our conversations into her begging to come fuck me. We were casual, and she went on dates with some other guys. But she would, time and time again, complain about how needy guys were. Or how they couldn't figure out what to do, and she would have to plan an evening.

What is "neediness?" It's stepping aside and letting her lead. It tells a woman that you are lower value than her. And we all know women don't fuck down.

wildogbilly · 2019-07-24T19:39:14+00:00

I agree to an extent. I am a manager at work. I tell people what to do, and in many cases l have to think for them too. I admit when dealing with women, I don't feel like making every fucking mundane decision. I just want to eat.

[deleted] · 2019-07-24T21:17:28+00:00

So per contrast, decisiveness is the most attractive trait?

Final_Pantasy · 2019-07-25T03:53:40+00:00

This is literally why I got dumped from all my relationships in my blue pill phase when I was younger.

[deleted] · 2019-07-24T23:24:20+00:00

Also makes an awful boss/leader

THEdirtyDotterFUCKr · 2019-07-25T00:45:50+00:00

I usually ask what type of cuisine they want "Mexican or Italian?" Then I decide where to go, and usually the cuisines are one of two that I want. If she suggests a specific place like "the new Indian restaurant in midtown" I file that away as a place to take her as a reward for good behavior.

You can take charge and still be mysterious

TruthSeekingPerson · 2019-07-24T20:37:49+00:00

If two people are attracted talking can only fuck it up. Women are impulsive creatures. They don’t want to talk about the past or the future. It’s in their DNA to seduce men and they do that by distracting him from the consequences of sleeping with her. Guys that actually think before they do things aren’t as easy to manipulate and trap.

Lust is a temporary emotion. You have to act on it when it’s there, if you hesitate it could be lost.

newacc4newlife · 2019-07-30T08:48:49+00:00

It's not just with women
Be decisive in your fucking life, take what YOU want, do things the way YOU want
So many guys can't voice their opinion over it's insane
"Whatever you want" they say, showing they are beta to no end

Kaizen2_0 · 2019-08-01T18:34:18+00:00

I know my post is a bit late to the party but my ex gf mentioned she hated this about me when we had our break-up fight. I'm curious what your take is on when they say decisiveness pisses them off. Maybe finding me too controlling.

She said something along the lines of "I hate how you always take control of the situation. It's always what you want to do and you don't bend at all".

Is her anger just some bs? Something she hoped I'd soften on so she could gain some power in the relationship?

heartbroken_nerd · 2019-07-24T23:15:13+00:00

You had me until the "tell her everything about how you're an autistic tryhard and plan every step of the way before the date".

Dumbassery.

To clarify, yes, you should plan it out but don't fucking tell her, what are you trying to do, destroy all the fun and mystery?

OSaraiva · 2019-07-24T19:31:28+00:00

Couldn't care less, if she wants to eat with me, she can suggest and i may agree, or else dinner at my place as i like it.

Otherwise, i eat everyday anyways.

Thing is, you're responsible for yourself. I may suggest sometimes an activity or dinner if i find it interesting or feel like, but i will not carry the burden of making a woman happy. Neither should you.

EyeInEl · 2019-07-24T23:29:30+00:00

Same, keep hearing it as the number one turn off and I cant blame them either. Its a turn off for me when a women is indecisive about everything. I dont just mean about what they want to do in life (frankly I've no idea what I what to do with my life life right now - or at least I'm torn between a couple of options) but when they literally cannot make a decision by themselves, its a character flaw.

bam9545 · 2019-07-25T03:28:49+00:00

Currently working on this. It’s tough out here when you’re a perfectionist who always wants to make the best decisions. But it helps to remember that life happens and time is of the essence. Your decision may not always be the best one but at least you made one in time. If it’s bad you can learn from it.

plentyoffishes · 2019-07-25T14:52:06+00:00

Do you guys like women who are indecisive? I personally find it incredibly annoying and a turnoff.

redvelvet_oreo · 2019-07-31T03:31:27+00:00

You don't decide where you're both eating for dinner enough times and she can't take it anymore. You don't decide on key life choices or what is best for the both of you, she dumps you for a man that takes charge of every situation he's in. She sees that you're not taking charge at work and are complaining to her about your indecisiveness. Be aware at all times of it.

Take note that some of these bitches now at days arent the easiest to deal with and lead so to speak. I found making decisions and leading early on especially plating works no issue. If you wind up getting into an LTR depending how "woke" your bitch is she will start being difficult to lead. Always questions or countering your decision on where to go or what to eat. I can understand if your only always doing what you want it can get a bit onsided in an LTR you should give in once a blue but be weary of the girls who will fight you on every step of the way because some bullshit magazine told her she needs to be an "alpha female." If this happens you need to double down on you dominance or eventually let her go. It will be come an annoyance fast enough to deal with the constant bullshit.

sacbite · 2019-07-25T01:13:22+00:00

Of course, you can make the wrong decision, too. And be a bully. And an asshole.

Title	The Number 1 Turn Off I Keep Hearing From Women
Author	Boo-urns1
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Date	24 July 2019 03:03 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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The Number 1 Turn Off I Keep Hearing From Women

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