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Why do men let women trap them by using sex as a reward instead of a natural byproduct of two people attracted to each other ?

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July 24, 2019
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I was listening to a radio show and this guy called in and said his wife uses sex as a reward to make him do shit around the house.

  1. Shouldn’t this be something he’s doing regardless of whether or not he gets laid ?
  2. At what point does the guy realize this is wrong and what point does this woman’s pussy dry up from raising a man child ?
  3. Is it morally wrong for the opposite to occurs ie: woman acts feminine , treats her man nice and in the bedroom he tears her up ?

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Title Why do men let women trap them by using sex as a reward instead of a natural byproduct of two people attracted to each other ?
Author csawyer86
Upvotes 178
Comments 108
Date 24 July 2019 03:45 PM UTC (1 year ago)
Subreddit askTRP
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/246529
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/asktrp/comments/ch9ucj/why_do_men_let_women_trap_them_by_using_sex_as_a/
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[–]2RedPill-BlackLotus235 points236 points  (69 children) | Copy

The only men that can be trapped like that are thirsty guys with a scarisity mentality. So like 80% of us.

If you had a magic button that when you pressed it, a woman appeared and sucked your cock, you would be mashing that button all the time. They have a button that makes men do shit, of course they are going to mash it.

Also, we have 12 to 17 times more testosterone than them, sex to us is different than sex to them. It's a tool to them.

And one more thing. Take the word should and stuff it up your ass.

[–]rawrlolrofl57 points58 points  (0 children) | Copy

yeah.. you bitch

[–]Mr_Flim_Flam16 points17 points  (13 children) | Copy

Are you saying that about the word should, because we don’t need to worry about what could be, and focus on what life is and how to navigate it?

[–]2RedPill-BlackLotus62 points63 points  (12 children) | Copy

Are you saying that about the word should, because we don’t need to worry about what could be, and focus on what life is and how to navigate it?

Most times when somone uses that word around here they use in the context of a statement about the world. Its usually a bullshit bluepill statement about how a woman "should act".

All this shit is amoral. The world just is. Act accordingly.

[–]seducter10 points11 points  (6 children) | Copy

I've been enjoying your perspective lately and it seems you are a well rounded guy, fit, confident etc. You definitely seem to walk the talk. Would appreciate your input on "amorality" as this amoral thing has had me stuck lately.

I had a plate who I promoted to LTR after like 7 months that had some daddy issues and moved out of town for another job, She didn't tell me about her hatred for her dad, so for months I thought she just cold heartedly dumped my ass and moved.

She opened up about her dad and we had a reconnection. She kept all the stuff we shared like pictures, etc, so still cared about me (and she only seems to keep pictures of meand her on her phone so don't think she is fucking other guys).

Meanwhile I was fucking plates, and planned to bring her back into the fold as a plate. Of course, the beta-ization happens fast and I once again made her my main and cut the other girls off.

The thing is... for me the grass is ALWAYS greener and it happens fast. When I'm in a relationship, I get bored and want plates. When I have plates, I get bored and want something more meaningful.

This is where I'm "stuck". I think my ideal would be a main chick who I am emotionally invested, but then some casual sex partners on the side.

However, I would view this as cheating and can't seem to accept that mentally, so the solution seems to be to just be honest with my main, that if she wants my commitment, she needs to accept I will bang other chicks. However, I think that would devestate her.

The other solution is to sneak around (which seems beta, as the act of sneaking means you are hiding something I think). This is where my mental hamster gets spinning. Part of me rationalizes this by thinking "a leader doesn't share everything with his subordinates". Like if an asteroid were coming to earth, it would be in a politician's best interest to not spread that info to keep the peace.

Sorry this got long and would appreciate any input you may have.

Keep up the good work!

[–]Cheeseking118 points9 points  (4 children) | Copy

It's all about the magnitude of IDGAF you have that determines whether you want to hide your side plate banging or be upfront about it.

If you seriously DNGAF then you would not be emotionally phased by being honest about wanting to bang girls on the side even if your main squeeze brought out the waterworks.

[–]seducter0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Hey thanks for this response, it seems I still GAF quite a bit more than I realized.

I also just realized I think a part of it is also giving a fuck about the "shaming" of others in relationships when they know I have a gf.

I still do "catch and release" to get numbers but then I just throw them away. So for example, I threw a bachelor party for my bro a couple weeks back, and just as I was getting a number, one of the other dudes who is maried says "hey what are you doing, you have a gf!" and the girl suddenly handed my phone back to me in disgust.

So there are also cockblockers who will shame me for "cheating" which adds a new element to things.

[–]Cheeseking116 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy

Cockblocking is common when you improve. I get cockblocked all the time by dudes when a girl they are interested in is drooling looking at me (I'm 6"2, muscled, skilled dancer, wavy prince like thick dark hair and high cheek bones so it can happen a fair bit). It's usually dudes I don't know who do it as ones I do know who do it I remove immediately from my life unless it is a one off mistake.

When you follow the TRP and put it into practice you will begin to behave in a way that is no longer conducive with your friends behaviors. It is common for friendships and marriages to end when a person swallows the pill because the established friendships/marriages were originally built on shared behaviours/interests.

The dude who called out you having a GF was jealous of you and probably a white knight.

[–]seducter0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Haha oh shit you know, come to think of it, this individual who cockblocked me just married a chick who begged me to fuck her when they had a break not too long ago (I suspect maybe he knows and as you said got jealous that I could pull another chick).

Luckily I don't see him much, but my bro is another who would cockblock me by saying I have a gf, but thinking he is doing me a favor by helping me "preserve the sanctity of my relationship".

[–]send_it_for_the_boys1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I can hear it now...”baby..when we were on a break “so&so” kept trying to fuck me.”

[–]jackandjill221 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Interesting.

[–]Cheeseking110 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

I see the word "Should" most parroted by people possessed by ideology trying to paint reality as how they were brainwashed to believe the world "should" be. It's a form of control.

[–]jackandjill22-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

Not necessarily.

[–]Cheeseking110 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Not necessarily what?

[–]jackandjill220 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

So, you're saying I should use the word "ought to" serious note there's nothing wrong with making prescriptive judgements about how things could be improved; idealistically or not sometimes people really need revealed to them flaws in their character or behaviors.

[–]send_it_for_the_boys0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Nope you ought to use that word....

[–]Bedtimeshine12 points13 points  (32 children) | Copy

Sex is no different. They wanna fuck just as bad as us. They just want to have it with less people. The reason sex between them isn’t a byproduct of attraction is because the wife isn’t attracted.

[–]2RedPill-BlackLotus40 points41 points  (20 children) | Copy

Sex is no different. They wanna fuck just as bad as us.

No they dont. Your wrong about that. They could never desire and want something that comes so easy.

They enjoy it yes, but we want it more.

[–]NightFire4523 points24 points  (1 child) | Copy

This, all the proof is in the difference between the apps Tinder and Grindr.

[–]jackandjill225 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Deadass correct. I have relatives that're homosexual it's crazy how simple that shit works. You want to talk about a "button" you mash for having sex? Yea, Grindr's it. Whereas everyone here's aware of the studies done on Tinder response rates & attractiveness & the games they play, flakiness etc.. 80-20.

[–]Bedtimeshine10 points11 points  (6 children) | Copy

They want and desire sex just as bad as men... they just want and desire sex with a much smaller percentage of the population. Chad makes the pussy throb. Doting schmuck hubby gets reward sex periodically.

[–]WolfofAllStreetz2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Terminology: "Duty Sex".

[–]xddm26531 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

I disagree, they will use sex on such a guy to keep him. What they really want is to have him

[–]Project_Zero_Betas4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Women use sex so as to maximize their chances of getting a commitment, it's that simple.

[–]Bedtimeshine-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

That’s one in the same

[–]2RedPill-BlackLotus2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Have you ever been married?

[–]LoveLord10002 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Have you ever read a comment to the end before replying?

[–]jackandjill221 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Agree.

[–]Project_Zero_Betas1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

They enjoy it yes, but we want it more.

They enjoy it same as us, but our overall drive/desire for it is higher due to testosterone levels.

[–]TheRealShafron0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

I don't know about that, I've ran into girls that sometimes have higher sex drives than me.

[–]2RedPill-BlackLotus3 points4 points  (3 children) | Copy

I don't know about that, I've ran into girls that sometimes have higher sex drives than me.

Oh ya? And can you tell if they are ovulating or what part of their cycle they are on.

It seems to me that you have been listing to the words that are comming out of their mouth and actually putting value in them.

Cut that shit out.

Let me guess, if you just be yourself a girl would be lucky to have you as their boyfriend, just not the one you are taking to.

[–]dukes19985 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

Someone’s clearly never run into a crazy chick whose obsessed with sex

[–]flipdoggers2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Disclaimer, I'm not a chad (yet). But in my experience, the few sex-obsessed chicks I've come across (one ex-gf, one ex-plate, one ex-best-friend) seemed to have various factors behind their sex obsessions:

  • GF: had just started college and was seeking both rebellion and validation. Very attractive, got picked up by guys on the street and loved it. (It was an open relationship, I didn't care.) Also got herself hooked on cigs out of rebellion.
  • Plate: I wasn't very into her, so she was heavily seeking my validation. Seemed to have low self-esteem in many ways (ironically masked in social situations by overcompensating and being arrogant and annoying).
  • Best friend: Wasn't very attractive so probably sought validation through sex. Also to be fair she was pretty openminded so didn't succumb to any fear of being a slut, and sex was a release for her from certain life issues.

Like I said I'm not yet a ripped alpha who makes women drip with a single glance lol, so maybe I'll have different experiences when I get to that point. But for now, girls do seem to enjoy sex, but not really need it, unless there are other factors like the ones above.

Would love to hear more people's thoughts and experiences on this topic.

[–]TheRealShafron0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Well hey everyone is completely different. Obviously there are people that will attempt to use sex to buy your time and make you do things, but once you pull them into your frame they'll be wanting to do anything you want.

[–]Bedtimeshine-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy

And attractive men get it just as easy as women. Because women WANT it.

[–]2RedPill-BlackLotus10 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy

And attractive men get it just as easy as women.

That's not true though. Even the most attractive of us still have to work for it. A Walmart employee with a functional vagina could fuck 10 men on a Sunday afternoon.

The only time its true for men is high status expectations like leo DiCaprio, Brad pitt, the rock, etc.

Even a hot spinal surgeon would have to put in some effort to bone 3 on the first date on the same date.

Not that Walmart girl though, she can open that cumdumpster for business and have a train run through her.

And you fuckin know it!

[–]Bedtimeshine0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Your just proving my point. Women want sex with SOME men as much men want sex with MOST women. The desire is the same, it’s just directed differently

[–]1NathanHollister7 points8 points  (8 children) | Copy

It's biologically impossible for women to have a higher sex drive than men. Libido is fueled by testosterone, and men have 10-17 times as much as women do. Unless a woman is shooting up anabolic steroids, she can never want sex as badly as a man.

Also, they can ENJOY it just as much, I'm only saying they cannot DESIRE it the same.

[–]lemongrooved0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You’re underestimating the level of emotional desire that builds in women that may build slower in men. Have you ever argued with a girl, you’re mad at her and she knows she’s in the wrong and then next minute she’s crawling into your lap? Or experienced romance done right? Meaning- composed in your frame and embodying masculinity, and controlled the build of her desire? Thinking a girl who feels really attracted to her man has a huge spike in testosterone means you’re thinking of women like men, in which case you’ll miss a lot of the nuances.

[–]Bedtimeshine-1 points0 points  (5 children) | Copy

They desire it the same. The just want it with less people. Don’t act like you don’t know this. If you don’t know this, women aren’t attracted to you. Women’s desire to fuck who they are attracted to is the same as men’s.

[–]1NathanHollister4 points5 points  (4 children) | Copy

No, it isn't. If that were the case, alpha males would get laid every night, and they don't. Look up how much sex each type of couple has, lesbians do it about twice a month, straight couples 6-7 a month, and gay men 12-13 times a month.

[–]Bedtimeshine2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

The gay couples are actually attracted to each other. When women are attracted to someone, they want to fuck. Just as bad as men.

[–]1NathanHollister1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Science disagrees. Women wanted something else, which they were happy to trade sex for. They don't have sex for fun very often, they have it to gain something (a baby, money, commitment, get back at a bf, etc.

If your logic were correct, it would mean that no lesbians are attracted to each other, which seems dubious.

If women wanted sex as bad as men, everyone would get laid all the time. Guys are willing to take what they can get, girls aren't. I.e. a 7 man will fuck a 5 girl just to get his dick wet. A 7 woman will not fuck a 5 man. This indicates that they desire it less.

[–]Bedtimeshine4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

Women have sex for fun all the time. Most women are with men they aren’t aroused by because most men aren’t arousing to women. Everything in your first paragraph is true.... with men they aren’t aroused by. Women want sex as bad as men which is why attractive men have sex all the time. 20% of men have 80% of all sex because women WANT to fuck them. Like I’ve said like 5 times now. Women want sex as bad as men but not with over 80% of men.

[–]javascript_dev0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Women want sex as bad as men

As men are willing to have sex with less desirable women, this itself points to greater desire for sex on the male side.

[–]Project_Zero_Betas-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

The correct answer.

[–]WolfofAllStreetz1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Women are "Monogomish".

[–]jackandjill220 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

idk you're skipping some steps there. While that's true it's not quite as simple as that.

[–]pointster_VSK5 points6 points  (10 children) | Copy

I have a magical device that has buttons that i press and they appear. its called my cell phone.

I also have a magic wand that makes them scream “im cumming” called a hitachi.

[–]DJVendetta0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy

Anyone can buy one

[–]1ForeverNandrolone0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy

But a lot of guys don’t.

[–]CosbySauce 1 points [recovered]  (5 children) | Copy

Do girls ever mind using it after they know you've used it with others?

[–]1ForeverNandrolone4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy

My girls don’t mind but a good trick is to keep the box in pristine condition and take it out of the box each time. “Look what I just got!”

[–]FightGuard0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Any advice on how to actually use the Hitachi on a girl? Thanks.

[–]1ForeverNandrolone0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Not really. Just pay attention to her reaction. It’s pretty intense so some girls you have to warm up, you can’t go right to the clit.

This is a pretty awesome addition if you want to get your dick sucked a lot

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[–]pointster_VSK0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Mine dont mind. The one i have is black and will show any kind of dirt or residue. I clean it very good after each use. I even show them there is no residue or anything on it.

[–]FightGuard0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Any advice on how to actually use the Hitachi on a girl? Thanks.

[–]pointster_VSK0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Depends on what you mean on how to use it on them.

I usually get my nut off first and just finish them off with the wand. The one i have has various speeds.

Sometimes i’ll go down on the girl and use it along with that or have her get off in front of me.

I’ll at times have her use it on her clit while i fuck her.

[–]WolfofAllStreetz0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Ever wonder if they did a study on women's testosterone levels if the women on the high end or over the normal had a higher sex drive?

[–]2RedPill-BlackLotus5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

Ever wonder if they did a study on women's testosterone levels if the women on the high end or over the normal had a higher sex drive?

Well I'm glad you brought that up because our generation, has some actual anecdotal data on this.

Woman that transision to men and undergo hormone replacement therapy, repot just that. A massive increase in libido.

And if you give a woman hormones, like anavar, primobolin, a bit of test, in small enough doses that they wont virilize, their libido goes into orbit.

[–]WolfofAllStreetz2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Oddly before my wife and I had a kid they ran blood tests on her, she had a level higher than normal for a female (range). Her libido is very high. Always wondered if it correlated.

[–]LadyD_910 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

So my high libido would be because I have PCOS? Interesting.

[–]jackandjill220 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Maybe dudes should stop appearing when they mash that button then. Just a suggestion. Empty the remotes battery's & invest your time elsewhere.

[–]2RedPill-BlackLotus1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Jack I'm right there with you man, look where we are. We are taking about our plugged in bros out there. Not all of us have had the same life experience.

They are all doing what they think is what's best for them. They are just a bit misguided that's all.

They are stuck on chapter 1, that's all. We made it to chaper 4.

All we can do is be the example.

In my case, I can come here, own my shit, and use some of my mistakes and life experience to serve as an example for others, for what avoid.

Thoes guys just want to get laid man.

We all know how that feels.

[–]jackandjill220 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I don't say this often. But I agree with you. You seem like a very decent person.

[–]ModTheRedPike0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

+1

[–]fingbacca0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

That second paragraph should be tattooed on the inside of every man's eyelids so he stares at it all night long as he sleeps. Well put sir.

[–]professor_mcamateur-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

shouldn't

short for "should not"

waaay to complicated for the penis-brain to understand. basically useless if you want to hold frame.

not sure what good it would do stuffed in your arse, either. but good luck with that.

[–]EcoastDistrib37 points38 points  (0 children) | Copy

  1. Yes
  2. Some guys never do. That woman’s pussy is already dried up. If she isn’t fucking you just because she desires to fuck you, she doesn’t desire you.
  3. People get used all the time.

[–]Endorsed Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil20 points21 points  (9 children) | Copy

Women have an incentive to make sex as expensive as possible because their real productivity is negotiable. If all women left the economy civilization would be more or less fine after a certain restabilization period. However if men left the economy that would pretty much be the end of civilization.

So what happened is his woman incrementally upped the price of sex until it became prohibitively expensive and non existent. This guy is too much of a pussy to throttle his resources and renegotiate.

[–]Project_Zero_Betas4 points5 points  (4 children) | Copy

If all women left the economy civilization would be more or less fine after a certain restabilization period.

I'm gonna need a citation for that Dr. Summers. You can't just shrink the labor pool by half in a modern, service economy and assume everything will be just as it was prior after a "restabilization period."

[–]Endorsed Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

You could probably just replace them with robots. That's where a lot of those jobs are going anyway.

[–]Project_Zero_Betas1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

A lot of automation advancements seem to be in the manufacturing sector, where women aren't represented that much anyway. True, you have some sectors like finance with Roboinvestors, and some at the retail end going online (i.e. grocery delivery, etc.), but the majority of the service sector, which makes up a significant portion of the economy, isn't entirely going to end via automation.

[–]Endorsed Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

My prediction for the future of the economy is Japan. In Japan they prefer a robo vending machine to people because of how anti social autistic their society is. Kaizer is chipping away at their nurses via automation allready.

[–]Project_Zero_Betas0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

That's a fair prediction, Japan is a pretty good model of what happens with a mature, capitalist economy.

[–]sehlid0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Your mother and your teachers all performed enormous emotional labor to raise you into a man, while your father and his taxes supported them. Do not equate money to value. It is not RP to ignore the benefit of women to society and life. It is to understand the power dynamic that exists to maintain that benefit. If you can install a woman her value, you should, but feminists are playing a power game

[–]Endorsed Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Emotional Theory of Labour Value? Did your Postmodernist professor give you that blue pill?

Do not equate money to value.

Post Structuralism Retardation intensifies.

[–]sehlid2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

You think you could have grown up a healthy man without kindness and childcare? That's retarded.

A society of all men is somehow assuming they would all be goal oriented robots without developmental emotional needs to be fulfilled. Both males and females embody masculine and feminine traits, it's retarded to believe otherwise.

Simply, the price of female sex and 'emotional labor' (which I agree, is itself a tenuous concept), is due to supply and demand like any other commodity. Women controlling their bodies leads to hyoergany, becaus it's better for a women to be not with a man than to be in a shitty relationship

[–]DeChef20 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Money is value. Not all value is money. What grade are you in?

Also, emotional labor? What?

If your can install a women her value

If you can instill values into women? What does TRP say about women and values?

If you can show women her value? They already know it, that’s why they ration sex...

[–]Senior Endorsedmax_peenor27 points28 points  (0 children) | Copy

The thirst is real.

This a fundamental reason why abundance is vital.

[–]Endorsed ContributorUEMcGill12 points13 points  (1 child) | Copy

As others have said, it starts with abundance. The long of it is, especially in an LTR you need to constantly demonstrate high value. The man on the radio was low value, and his wife reflects this by making sex transactional.

Live your life so that everyone around you has to keep up. Do I tell my wife that the house needs cleaning? Hell no. If shit gets out of hand, I get shit done. But notice, there's a difference between chore-play and getting shit done. My wife will apologize for letting shit get crazy. You need to live your life so that your wife or your LTR is your First Officer, so that she is your helper, not the other way around. That guys wife's pussy dried up years ago.

[–]WolfofAllStreetz2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I do this too, I fucking hate a cluttered house. I have OCD something fierce so wife is always apologizing for me doing cleanup.

[–]1DullIntroduction25 points26 points  (4 children) | Copy

Men are trapped because they give away their commitment (ie. ability to walk away) too easily. This breaks the balance of power in the relationship, and of course, the leverage she obtains is used to gain more control.

[–]rockyp321 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

Yeah or was our only power as men is to draw away our attention.. but how can we use that to tilt the scales? Like u make a move she’s being a little unresponsive. U try again same shit happens. Then would you just ignore her completely? Until she starts acting good

[–]i-am-the-prize7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

Yeah or was our only power as men is to draw away our attention.. but how can we use that to tilt the scales?

  1. Become high value. A lot of the sidebar techniques only work if she picks up on your high(er) value. She will see how other women view you (social proof) and will hamster and think, hey he is of high(er) value (than me). aka: worth keeping around. If you're not of high enough value to her view of herself, you're not worth keeping around (in her view).

Like u make a move she’s being a little unresponsive. U try again same shit happens. Then would you just ignore her completely? Until she starts acting good?

2) if you're reactionary, you appear butthurt and weak. You need to frame your question from a position of power and decisiveness ("babe, I feel like steak tonight, I want to go to Ruth Chris, 7pm, you coming?") and do whatever it is you want to do, with or without her. This means hiking, doing the museum, the food, action date, etc. So her attendance is optional. Literally. If you ask to spend time in a specific way and she declines, and you 'leave' it's like pouting and looks even weaker. But yes, withdrawing attention (my Time Attention and Resources are my Gold) is the response.

Long term you don't want to care about what she's thinking of you (NGAF) but at first it helps to present your question/plan in such a way that an agreement or rejection of her attendance does not make/break the plans. You do you. She can join if she's invited and chooses, either way you're going to have a good time.

why walking away - genius - https://rivsdiary.wordpress.com/2018/01/07/lets-say-a-girl-is-acting-bitchy/

"... The only real tool modern men have at their disposal is attention. You either give attention or withdraw it. That’s really it. The rest is commentary ..." from: https://theredquest.wordpress.com/2018/01/08/attention-is-the-only-tool-modern-men-have/

"...Until she starts acting good?"

There's the "reward good behavior" concept here. I have found that too much reward undoes some of the dread and the crappy behavior pendulum can swing the other way (it's cyclic). So a little goes a long way here, but yes, reward good behavior.

[–]rockyp321 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I understand but what if it’s not a planning matter? It’s when I make a sexual move I cna tell she kinda enjoys teasing me then pulling back. But once I notice that I withdrew all my attention and kinda ignored her and just focused on my phone then she started pulling.. and chasing me. I’m curious if that’s the proper way to respond to her ignoring ur sexual advances.. just withdraw attention?? That’s what I do atleast and it kinda worked

[–]1DullIntroduction3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Apply Dread.

[–]OilyB8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

Because the western value system has been turned upside down by feminism. And men allowed it. They even helped.

For comparison: In countries where the value system hasn't been turned upside down:

  • women give their best sex to keep their men loyal to them

  • women understand that libidos are different between the sexes so they compensate the difference because they get a lot in return: protection, service, understanding from their men, honor, assistance with physical chores, finance etc

  • women make their man cum before he goes out with his friends - she doesn't let him get out the door with a 'loaded gun'. Think about it.

  • women understand the importance of men and carry their men in their hearts with trust, service, assistance, faith and admiration.

  • men insist on getting this treatment or women fall down the social ladder - yes, they deal with social CONSEQUENCES

Your man cheated on you? "Honey, baby, you probably just didn't suck him hard enough. Lemme teach you... "

[–]3chazthundergut16 points17 points  (2 children) | Copy

Because men are thirsty bitches

[–]kireol10 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy

Because 80% of men are thirsty bitches. 20% are pounding it

FTFY

[–]failingtheturingtest-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

20% are getting laid, but not because they aren't thirsty bitches being used by women.

Old mate in the story here who gets access to the glorious sex because he does the dishes still counts on the 20% getting laid figure.

[–]WolfofAllStreetz5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

Beta choreplay Husband who is too afraid to leave. Prolly a fat slob who watches football every Sunday as his main form of entertainment. Wife doesn't want to fuck him on command because she isn't attracted to him.

It's like the guys who have to ask their wives to hang out with their friends for a "guys night". Bunch of pussies.

Better off not getting married if that's what you want your future to be.

Be attractive, don't be unattractive. This post was better suited in /askmrp

[–]Ivabighairy12 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

No, this post is fine right here. I’m getting a lot out of it, and if I am, so are others. Sometimes rewording something makes the light bulb go on.

[–]fredo_o6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Men like him only know transactional sex.

Men like us are trying to get validation sex

[–]uptimex5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

The whole point is that men can use long term relationships for the same purpose. You come, you have sex with me, and I will decide whether I want LTR with you or not. Because men are relationships gatekeepers and women are sex gatekeepers. The key is to not use it in the opposite logics.

[–]Mr_Flim_Flam3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Some men have a real scarcity mentality. So they believe doing whatever they’re wife wants gets them the cookie, and in the end she’ll still say I’m too tired tonight.

  1. Yes

  2. If they’re in that stage, she’s probably already dryer than a desert. And some men will always live in the their blue pill mindset.

  3. I don’t see why it would be.

[–]the_Milkweed2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Im going to rephrase this question for you so that it makes more sense:

Why do man-children project their lack of masculinity within their marriage by allowing their wifes to dictate when and how they will have sex. Why isnt sex a by product of a healthy equal relationship?

I was listening to a boomer sound machine and this worm called in and said that his live in roommate uses her vagina as an ultimatum to get him to do things he should probably be doing anyway.

  1. stupid question
  2. Q: At what point does the worm realize hes being used and that his abuser is no longer interested in stepping on him repeatedly?
    A: A worm doesn't really know hes a worm until hes been cut in half and can see his own asshole, like when a man gets cucked and finally recognizes that his mother never loved him and only ever reminded him of the father that left them. She was never really wet for him in the first place, if she views her pussy as a tool against you then you were never the type to have gotten her to give it up for nothing. Does that make sense? youre doomed from the start, your question doesn't apply because it was already dry in the first place.
  3. What is morally incorrect about nature? Nature doesnt give a fuck about your morals. What kind of god damn question is "is it morally incorrect for a dog to be a dog" like da fuck is this shit.

[–]cracksniffer6662 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Because a lot of women are prostitutes that do things they justify in their heads. It's also the only power a lot of them have over anything. Sad truth. It's truthfully men's fault for being such pussy beggars, because if that simp doesn't bend to her will, another one will somewhere. F.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Beta behavior (ie not setting boundaries). From childhood conditioning.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

No idea.

Maybe it is an insecurity that his women might leave him, I dunno man.

Thirsty guys tend to be delusional optimists that lack any purpose in life besides chasing pussy all day and being a skivvy.

[–]CaptainLordLevel0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

They do this because they get away with it.

[–]Zanford0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Think of sexually desperate men as like drug addicts.

[–]Timdeuces0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Don't have to attach a why to that. You basically just gave yourself the answer

[–]RevolutionaryPea70 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Shouldn’t this be something he’s doing regardless of whether or not he gets laid ?

Not if he works but she doesn't. Don't think for a second that a full time housewife won't complain about doing all the work. Women complain constantly about anything.

[–]goblinboglin0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I set it straight at the beginning of LTR.

Sex plus BJ a day or I'm finding another.

[–]addwater0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Women make even the smartest men stupid incase you weren't aware bro

[–]Bilderbergerwcheese 1 points [recovered]  (2 children) | Copy

I'm a male model. Almost every plate insists on licking my asshole. Unfortunately the girls that have boyfriends/husbands, cheating women, want to lick my hole the most.

[–]jackandjill220 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Don't be surprised when I don't believe you.



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