This is a truly incredible conversation with a woman that is seemingly incapable of accepting the simple fact that men find youthful women attractive. The real noteworthy thing is how seemingly immune she is to logic. Is it stupidity, or is it strong emotion with the fantastic power to utterly delude?

I don't know if it's appropriate for this forum, but couldn't think of anywhere else to share this. This is 100% real. It feels like a biologist uncovering a rare toxic frog in the amazon - something worth sharing and being bewildered by.

Paste of convo, hopefully this formats correctly:

You: you said you're 24? you still have time

You: better to make a good decision rather than a fast decision

Stranger: 26

You: oh 26

Stranger: Yes

You: probably until 30 it is easy

You: after 30, maybe it becomes a bit harder, but of course not impossible

Stranger: Im not rushing

You: that's good

Stranger: Also men here prefer younger girls

Stranger: So lets say if im 26 and theres another 22 year old girl

Stranger: He would marry her hahaha

You: prefering younger women is understandable

You: but you are an individual

You: someone should love you for who you are

Stranger: Understandable?

You: you need to find someone that loves you as a person! not just a piece of meat

You: younger women are more attractive

You: it is natural to be more attracted to them

Stranger: Lets say he's 28 and im 26

Stranger: What would make a 22 girl more attractive than me i wonder

You: you have to think of it like this

You: think of yourself, you are 26

You: then think of oyurself again

You: but 22

You: the 22 year old version of you is more attractive, in general

Stranger: I prefer my 26 version lol

You: it is a proven fact that youth is attractive

Stranger: No she was dumb and not experienced

You: but there is much more to life than just physical attraction, or just one aspect of physical attraction

Stranger: Excuse me and 26 is not youth?

You: haha

You: don't take offense!

You: i'm speaking in general

You: not about you in specific

Stranger: Im not offended im trying to understand

You: for the USA 26 is very very young still

Stranger: I dont get ur point.. 22 is youth and 26 os downhill? Lol

You: people marry here around 26 average i guess

You: 28 is average for women in USA apparently

Stranger: 26 is youth as well and its even better.. so why go marry a younger girl

You: because if you marry a 22 year old girl

Stranger: Means if u pass 25 ur expired lets find a younger girl

You: you get 4 more years of youth

Stranger: Thats weird

Stranger: Wow!

You: it's not weird at all

Stranger: How could u think like that hahaha

You: first you have to understand this

You: youth is not the only factor

You: you are getting hung up on it

Stranger: Youth isnt about age

Stranger: Its about health

You: yes, people can look youthful even at 35

You: but that doesn't mean that there isn't an advantage to being 25

You: because that means 10 more years of youthfulness for that person

Stranger: Even at 35? Haha excuse me but 35 is youth also

You: it is not difficult to understand

You: you are thinking about it emotionally

You: there are many factors that a man should look for, just like a woman thinks of many factors

Stranger: Im not being emotional.. i wasnt dicthed by a guy cause he preferred a younger girl lol

Stranger: I just dont understand this

You: youth is one of the factors that is a positive for a man. not the only thing, not the most important thing. but it is a factor

You: what don't you understand? you don't seem especially stupid

You: so it should be simple for you to understand

You: do you understand that youth is attractive to a man?

Stranger: I dont understand how could u classify people in their late twenties or mid thirties as "not so youth anymore"

You: what age range is youth for you, in your opinion

You: 18 - 68?

You: what is the range in your opinion

Stranger: Up till 45 im not kidding

You: ok

You: so let's say from 18 - 45 is youthful

Stranger: Ok

You: in those years, men will find a woman more attractive compared to 45 - 85

You: because the woman is more youthful

You: you understand this?

Stranger: Ok i agree

Stranger: But

Stranger: If he chooses a girl just because she's a couple of years younger than the other one "even tho she's still considered as youth"

Stranger: Now thats weird!

Stranger: Why he cares im younger than him anyway if thats his issue

You: thinking about just one aspect when picking a wife or husband is stupid

You: that's not what i'm claiming

You: but if you say 18-45 is youthful, and youth is good

You: then why would a man choose a 25 year old instead of a 45 year old?

You: it is simple: the 25 year old has 20 more years of youth

You: 45 year old has few years

You: it is not strange or unreasonable at all

Stranger: No.. she's more healthy and doesnt get tired of sex lol

You: well you have a fundamental misunderstanding

You: you are either ignorant

You: in which case i'm explaining it to you

Stranger: Im not.. im just thinking like a man

You: or you're refusing to understand because you are subconsciously afraid you're getting older

You: and you're nervous about the idea of becoming less attractive

You: you are not thinking like a man

Stranger: Heyyy!

Stranger: I dont think like that i swear

You: i'm telling you the truth. it is not controversial

You: men prefer younger women

Stranger: I dont know u anyway so i dont have to lie

You: you have to lie to yourself :P

Stranger: If i feel like that i would be frank with u

Stranger: Im not lying

You: ok then you are ignorant of the fact

You: i know women do not think that way

You: 35, 45, a man can be almost any age!

You: i am not telling you it is right or wrong. but i am telling you the truth

Stranger: Im not ignorant!

You: men prefer youth, they prefer younger woman

Stranger: Ok! But thats unreasonable!

You: it is amazing to me that you don't understand this

Stranger: And what is the reason? Because he wants more years of youth? Come on! That doesnt make sense

Stranger: Because he wants a healthy girl thats why

You: Because he wants more years of youth, exactly

You: more years to breed

You: more children

You: if he takes a 55 year old wife

You: maybe she can get pregnant once

You: maybe not

You: maybe miscarriage

You: it is biological

Stranger: Why u jump up to 55 now?!

You: 45, same thing

Stranger: Im not saying the limit

Stranger: Im saying any age in between 18 to 45

Stranger: He's 40 and he has two girls one 34 and one is 30

Stranger: Both are fine

Stranger: 34 is healthy and can breed!

Stranger: Why go to the 30 year old one when theyre both actually younger!

Stranger: And supposedly as u say attractive cause he's older anyway than both

You: ok tell me what you think about this hypothetical situation

Stranger: No answer me first haha

Stranger: Why dont take the 34 year old woman

You: i don't know this woman

You: if she is a better woman than the 30 year old one

You: then of course i will choose her

Stranger: U dunno the other one either

You: if the 30 year old is better, i will choose the 30 year old

You: if i dont know either of them, i will date the 30 year old first

Stranger: Thats what im talking about! They shouldnt care about age!

You: because i know one thing about them, and that is their age

You: ok tell me what you think about this hypotethical situation

Stranger: Ok

You: there is a woman, ilhan

You: her name is ilhan

You: she has a certain personality

Stranger: Ok thats a strange name.. sounds turkish

You: a certain wisdom, a certain maturity

Stranger: Ok

You: now imagine a science fiction scenario

You: where she is cloned, copied

You: exactly the same

You: so there is two ilhan

You: they are both exactly the same

Stranger: Ok

You: same maturity, personality, everything

You: now imagine one is 30, but the other is magically turned into 34

You: but they both have identical personality, maturity, everything

You: which should the man pick?

You: they are the same, remember

You: only difference is one is 4 years older (but not 4 years more experience because it was magic)

Stranger: If i were a man?

You: any man

You: which should he pick

You: they are identical

You: only difference is one is made 4 years older by magic

Stranger: Ok she just jumped 4 years.. but not 4 years of experience, right?

You: yes exactly

You: just magic

You: they are both clones

You: same person duplicated with magic

You: which should he pick

Stranger: I think he should choose the original one not the cloned one whoever she is.. whether according to ur story she jumped 4 years older.. or in another version went back 4 years younger.. just take the real person

You: there is no real person

You: they are both fake

You: the real one is split down the middle 50 / 50

Stranger: Then he should run lol

You: so they are both equally real

You: you are avoiding the answer

You: because you know the answer

Stranger: Im not

You: they are the same person

You: but he loves the woman, he loves her as a wife, he loves her as a mother and grandmother

You: why not have a grandmother live 4 more years?

You: 4 more years together with her children and grandchildren?

You: 4 more years of youth?

Stranger: I dunno i cant think like a man! And as u said its an imaginary story.. u can never find two girls with the exact same personality in real life so that u would choose the younger one

You: you really can't think like a man

Stranger: U should know which is more compatible and take her eegardless her age

You: hopefully you can at least think logically

Stranger: Wait a moment

You: the fact that it is an imaginary story is not relevant

You: it is only to isolate the age as the only factor - to make it the only thing different

You: so you can tell if it has any importance or not

You: and the fact is that it does have an importance

Stranger: 4 more years together? How do u even know who's gonna die first or how she's going to doe

Stranger: Die

You: what about her children

Stranger: Age isnt the only factor

You: in this imaginary story, age is the only factor

You: because they are identical

You: of course in a real scenario, there are thousands factors

You: not just age

Stranger: And what is the age, in ur opinion, most women die at?

You: it is irrelevant

You: it is irrelevant if they die at age 1,000

Stranger: Ok im talking about a real scenario!

Stranger: Why would i care about an imaginary story its not applicable on real life

You: global life expectancy is 71 for women

You: you can't be this stupid!

You: you don't sound stupid

Stranger: Whats ur name

You: you edit videos

You: you can not be this stupid!

You: it is incredibly easy to undestand

You: i agree with you, in a real scenario

You: there are many factors

You: you do not look at age

Stranger: Whats ur name

You: and say "this woman is 22, this woman is 26"

You: "i shall pick the 22 year old"

You: no one is arguing that

You: but the fact is that youth is attractive. if you isolate the factor of youth, it is a positive factor.

Stranger: Time out!

You: it is absolutely amazing to me that you are either so resistant to accept this or simply incapable of understanding it

You: either way is fascinating

You: i won't share my name. better to remain anonymous for both of us :)

Stranger: Look

Stranger: Haha u can give me a fake one just to find something to call u with

Stranger: Lets call u Jack

Stranger: Look Jack

You: sure

Stranger: Im having a very civilized conversation with u where we both are sharing opinions from a woman's perspective and a man's perspective

Stranger: Do u agree?

You: from one woman's perspective to one man's, yes

Stranger: Okay

Stranger: So theres no point of calling me stupid or i cant be this stupid.

You: i don't mean to insult you

You: i'm merely being frank

Stranger: I could say this to u too cause u dont understand my opinion

Stranger: Especially that i could just say it and run haha

Stranger: But hey we're sharing thoughts

You: perhaps i was not able to explain it adequately, or there is a language barrier

You: in that sense i may have judged too quickly

You: but i am under the impression that your english is very good

Stranger: So what does my job has to do with this? I cant be like this especially i edit videos?

You: i assume that your more technical work of editing videos and working with computers can be a sign of higher than average intelligence

Stranger: We could agree to disagree both of us.. just dont involve personal things

You: again, i don't mean any insult

Stranger: But u did

Stranger: Many times

You: if you take insult from that, that's your problem!

Stranger: I ignored it in the beginning but u said it again

You: i appreciate greatly your discussion and civility

Stranger: Thank u

You: and seeing your perspective

Stranger: Thank u

You: i really mean no disrespect

You: i am just being frank

Stranger: Ok then

You: people can have emotional blockages stopping them from seeing things

You: people can be simply stupid!

You: or perhaps i am stupid or emotionally blocked

You: even if you were stupid or had an emotional block, that doesn't make me respect you less

You: i am just being frank

Stranger: Either way.. i dont have to right to say this about u

You: i don't mind

Stranger: I do haha

You: :P

Stranger: I dont call people names

You: do you see the point i've been trying to make, now?

Stranger: I dont wanna talk about it anymore

You: very well

Stranger: As i said lets agree to disagree

You: i find that so fascinating

You: if a cat suddenly sprouted wings and started to fly

You: that is how fascinating it is to me that you're able to think this way

You: it is fascinating and a bit frightening

Stranger: Not commenting lol

You: haha

You: anything else you want to talk about?

Stranger: But u know

You: it is stuck on my mind now

Stranger: People are different

You: it's like i've seen a ghost

Stranger: And this world has a lot of people from different backgrounds

Stranger: So its perfectly normal to find other mentalities

You: of course

Stranger: Its not frightening

You: but it is not normal nor desirable to lack logic

You: a person seemingly immune to reason is frightening

You: it's not important! we can chat about different things

Stranger: Because im not a man and not agreeing to ur point its like seeing a ghost?

Stranger: Hahahaha

Stranger: Ur expressions are funny

You: i have never insulted you

Stranger: Im sure of this

You: but i might now. you are either incredibly stupid, or you are blinded by your emotions to a fantastic degree. if you are this unreasonable or deluded in other aspects of your life, i feel sorry for any man unfortunate enough to marry you

You: sorry! :(

Stranger: Thank u so much

Stranger: But its ok

You: i think there are a lot of women like you, so it is probably not an issue