This is a truly incredible conversation with a woman that is seemingly incapable of accepting the simple fact that men find youthful women attractive. The real noteworthy thing is how seemingly immune she is to logic. Is it stupidity, or is it strong emotion with the fantastic power to utterly delude?
I don't know if it's appropriate for this forum, but couldn't think of anywhere else to share this. This is 100% real. It feels like a biologist uncovering a rare toxic frog in the amazon - something worth sharing and being bewildered by.
Paste of convo, hopefully this formats correctly:
You: you said you're 24? you still have time
You: better to make a good decision rather than a fast decision
Stranger: 26
You: oh 26
Stranger: Yes
You: probably until 30 it is easy
You: after 30, maybe it becomes a bit harder, but of course not impossible
Stranger: Im not rushing
You: that's good
Stranger: Also men here prefer younger girls
Stranger: So lets say if im 26 and theres another 22 year old girl
Stranger: He would marry her hahaha
You: prefering younger women is understandable
You: but you are an individual
You: someone should love you for who you are
Stranger: Understandable?
You: you need to find someone that loves you as a person! not just a piece of meat
You: younger women are more attractive
You: it is natural to be more attracted to them
Stranger: Lets say he's 28 and im 26
Stranger: What would make a 22 girl more attractive than me i wonder
You: you have to think of it like this
You: think of yourself, you are 26
You: then think of oyurself again
You: but 22
You: the 22 year old version of you is more attractive, in general
Stranger: I prefer my 26 version lol
You: it is a proven fact that youth is attractive
Stranger: No she was dumb and not experienced
You: but there is much more to life than just physical attraction, or just one aspect of physical attraction
Stranger: Excuse me and 26 is not youth?
You: haha
You: don't take offense!
You: i'm speaking in general
You: not about you in specific
Stranger: Im not offended im trying to understand
You: for the USA 26 is very very young still
Stranger: I dont get ur point.. 22 is youth and 26 os downhill? Lol
You: people marry here around 26 average i guess
You: 28 is average for women in USA apparently
Stranger: 26 is youth as well and its even better.. so why go marry a younger girl
You: because if you marry a 22 year old girl
Stranger: Means if u pass 25 ur expired lets find a younger girl
You: you get 4 more years of youth
Stranger: Thats weird
Stranger: Wow!
You: it's not weird at all
Stranger: How could u think like that hahaha
You: first you have to understand this
You: youth is not the only factor
You: you are getting hung up on it
Stranger: Youth isnt about age
Stranger: Its about health
You: yes, people can look youthful even at 35
You: but that doesn't mean that there isn't an advantage to being 25
You: because that means 10 more years of youthfulness for that person
Stranger: Even at 35? Haha excuse me but 35 is youth also
You: it is not difficult to understand
You: you are thinking about it emotionally
You: there are many factors that a man should look for, just like a woman thinks of many factors
Stranger: Im not being emotional.. i wasnt dicthed by a guy cause he preferred a younger girl lol
Stranger: I just dont understand this
You: youth is one of the factors that is a positive for a man. not the only thing, not the most important thing. but it is a factor
You: what don't you understand? you don't seem especially stupid
You: so it should be simple for you to understand
You: do you understand that youth is attractive to a man?
Stranger: I dont understand how could u classify people in their late twenties or mid thirties as "not so youth anymore"
You: what age range is youth for you, in your opinion
You: 18 - 68?
You: what is the range in your opinion
Stranger: Up till 45 im not kidding
You: ok
You: so let's say from 18 - 45 is youthful
Stranger: Ok
You: in those years, men will find a woman more attractive compared to 45 - 85
You: because the woman is more youthful
You: you understand this?
Stranger: Ok i agree
Stranger: But
Stranger: If he chooses a girl just because she's a couple of years younger than the other one "even tho she's still considered as youth"
Stranger: Now thats weird!
Stranger: Why he cares im younger than him anyway if thats his issue
You: thinking about just one aspect when picking a wife or husband is stupid
You: that's not what i'm claiming
You: but if you say 18-45 is youthful, and youth is good
You: then why would a man choose a 25 year old instead of a 45 year old?
You: it is simple: the 25 year old has 20 more years of youth
You: 45 year old has few years
You: it is not strange or unreasonable at all
Stranger: No.. she's more healthy and doesnt get tired of sex lol
You: well you have a fundamental misunderstanding
You: you are either ignorant
You: in which case i'm explaining it to you
Stranger: Im not.. im just thinking like a man
You: or you're refusing to understand because you are subconsciously afraid you're getting older
You: and you're nervous about the idea of becoming less attractive
You: you are not thinking like a man
Stranger: Heyyy!
Stranger: I dont think like that i swear
You: i'm telling you the truth. it is not controversial
You: men prefer younger women
Stranger: I dont know u anyway so i dont have to lie
You: you have to lie to yourself :P
Stranger: If i feel like that i would be frank with u
Stranger: Im not lying
You: ok then you are ignorant of the fact
You: i know women do not think that way
You: 35, 45, a man can be almost any age!
You: i am not telling you it is right or wrong. but i am telling you the truth
Stranger: Im not ignorant!
You: men prefer youth, they prefer younger woman
Stranger: Ok! But thats unreasonable!
You: it is amazing to me that you don't understand this
Stranger: And what is the reason? Because he wants more years of youth? Come on! That doesnt make sense
Stranger: Because he wants a healthy girl thats why
You: Because he wants more years of youth, exactly
You: more years to breed
You: more children
You: if he takes a 55 year old wife
You: maybe she can get pregnant once
You: maybe not
You: maybe miscarriage
You: it is biological
Stranger: Why u jump up to 55 now?!
You: 45, same thing
Stranger: Im not saying the limit
Stranger: Im saying any age in between 18 to 45
Stranger: He's 40 and he has two girls one 34 and one is 30
Stranger: Both are fine
Stranger: 34 is healthy and can breed!
Stranger: Why go to the 30 year old one when theyre both actually younger!
Stranger: And supposedly as u say attractive cause he's older anyway than both
You: ok tell me what you think about this hypothetical situation
Stranger: No answer me first haha
Stranger: Why dont take the 34 year old woman
You: i don't know this woman
You: if she is a better woman than the 30 year old one
You: then of course i will choose her
Stranger: U dunno the other one either
You: if the 30 year old is better, i will choose the 30 year old
You: if i dont know either of them, i will date the 30 year old first
Stranger: Thats what im talking about! They shouldnt care about age!
You: because i know one thing about them, and that is their age
You: ok tell me what you think about this hypotethical situation
Stranger: Ok
You: there is a woman, ilhan
You: her name is ilhan
You: she has a certain personality
Stranger: Ok thats a strange name.. sounds turkish
You: a certain wisdom, a certain maturity
Stranger: Ok
You: now imagine a science fiction scenario
You: where she is cloned, copied
You: exactly the same
You: so there is two ilhan
You: they are both exactly the same
Stranger: Ok
You: same maturity, personality, everything
You: now imagine one is 30, but the other is magically turned into 34
You: but they both have identical personality, maturity, everything
You: which should the man pick?
You: they are the same, remember
You: only difference is one is 4 years older (but not 4 years more experience because it was magic)
Stranger: If i were a man?
You: any man
You: which should he pick
You: they are identical
You: only difference is one is made 4 years older by magic
Stranger: Ok she just jumped 4 years.. but not 4 years of experience, right?
You: yes exactly
You: just magic
You: they are both clones
You: same person duplicated with magic
You: which should he pick
Stranger: I think he should choose the original one not the cloned one whoever she is.. whether according to ur story she jumped 4 years older.. or in another version went back 4 years younger.. just take the real person
You: there is no real person
You: they are both fake
You: the real one is split down the middle 50 / 50
Stranger: Then he should run lol
You: so they are both equally real
You: you are avoiding the answer
You: because you know the answer
Stranger: Im not
You: they are the same person
You: but he loves the woman, he loves her as a wife, he loves her as a mother and grandmother
You: why not have a grandmother live 4 more years?
You: 4 more years together with her children and grandchildren?
You: 4 more years of youth?
Stranger: I dunno i cant think like a man! And as u said its an imaginary story.. u can never find two girls with the exact same personality in real life so that u would choose the younger one
You: you really can't think like a man
Stranger: U should know which is more compatible and take her eegardless her age
You: hopefully you can at least think logically
Stranger: Wait a moment
You: the fact that it is an imaginary story is not relevant
You: it is only to isolate the age as the only factor - to make it the only thing different
You: so you can tell if it has any importance or not
You: and the fact is that it does have an importance
Stranger: 4 more years together? How do u even know who's gonna die first or how she's going to doe
Stranger: Die
You: what about her children
Stranger: Age isnt the only factor
You: in this imaginary story, age is the only factor
You: because they are identical
You: of course in a real scenario, there are thousands factors
You: not just age
Stranger: And what is the age, in ur opinion, most women die at?
You: it is irrelevant
You: it is irrelevant if they die at age 1,000
Stranger: Ok im talking about a real scenario!
Stranger: Why would i care about an imaginary story its not applicable on real life
You: global life expectancy is 71 for women
You: you can't be this stupid!
You: you don't sound stupid
Stranger: Whats ur name
You: you edit videos
You: you can not be this stupid!
You: it is incredibly easy to undestand
You: i agree with you, in a real scenario
You: there are many factors
You: you do not look at age
Stranger: Whats ur name
You: and say "this woman is 22, this woman is 26"
You: "i shall pick the 22 year old"
You: no one is arguing that
You: but the fact is that youth is attractive. if you isolate the factor of youth, it is a positive factor.
Stranger: Time out!
You: it is absolutely amazing to me that you are either so resistant to accept this or simply incapable of understanding it
You: either way is fascinating
You: i won't share my name. better to remain anonymous for both of us :)
Stranger: Look
Stranger: Haha u can give me a fake one just to find something to call u with
Stranger: Lets call u Jack
Stranger: Look Jack
You: sure
Stranger: Im having a very civilized conversation with u where we both are sharing opinions from a woman's perspective and a man's perspective
Stranger: Do u agree?
You: from one woman's perspective to one man's, yes
Stranger: Okay
Stranger: So theres no point of calling me stupid or i cant be this stupid.
You: i don't mean to insult you
You: i'm merely being frank
Stranger: I could say this to u too cause u dont understand my opinion
Stranger: Especially that i could just say it and run haha
Stranger: But hey we're sharing thoughts
You: perhaps i was not able to explain it adequately, or there is a language barrier
You: in that sense i may have judged too quickly
You: but i am under the impression that your english is very good
Stranger: So what does my job has to do with this? I cant be like this especially i edit videos?
You: i assume that your more technical work of editing videos and working with computers can be a sign of higher than average intelligence
Stranger: We could agree to disagree both of us.. just dont involve personal things
You: again, i don't mean any insult
Stranger: But u did
Stranger: Many times
You: if you take insult from that, that's your problem!
Stranger: I ignored it in the beginning but u said it again
You: i appreciate greatly your discussion and civility
Stranger: Thank u
You: and seeing your perspective
Stranger: Thank u
You: i really mean no disrespect
You: i am just being frank
Stranger: Ok then
You: people can have emotional blockages stopping them from seeing things
You: people can be simply stupid!
You: or perhaps i am stupid or emotionally blocked
You: even if you were stupid or had an emotional block, that doesn't make me respect you less
You: i am just being frank
Stranger: Either way.. i dont have to right to say this about u
You: i don't mind
Stranger: I do haha
You: :P
Stranger: I dont call people names
You: do you see the point i've been trying to make, now?
Stranger: I dont wanna talk about it anymore
You: very well
Stranger: As i said lets agree to disagree
You: i find that so fascinating
You: if a cat suddenly sprouted wings and started to fly
You: that is how fascinating it is to me that you're able to think this way
You: it is fascinating and a bit frightening
Stranger: Not commenting lol
You: haha
You: anything else you want to talk about?
Stranger: But u know
You: it is stuck on my mind now
Stranger: People are different
You: it's like i've seen a ghost
Stranger: And this world has a lot of people from different backgrounds
Stranger: So its perfectly normal to find other mentalities
You: of course
Stranger: Its not frightening
You: but it is not normal nor desirable to lack logic
You: a person seemingly immune to reason is frightening
You: it's not important! we can chat about different things
Stranger: Because im not a man and not agreeing to ur point its like seeing a ghost?
Stranger: Hahahaha
Stranger: Ur expressions are funny
You: i have never insulted you
Stranger: Im sure of this
You: but i might now. you are either incredibly stupid, or you are blinded by your emotions to a fantastic degree. if you are this unreasonable or deluded in other aspects of your life, i feel sorry for any man unfortunate enough to marry you
You: sorry! :(
Stranger: Thank u so much
Stranger: But its ok
You: i think there are a lot of women like you, so it is probably not an issue
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