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Way of the Superior Man

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August 8, 2019

30% through this book. So far it's not been very inspiring. Seems to be about getting in touch with your feminine self which is gay.

Should I push through and finish? What did you guys get out of the book?

Edit: Thanks guys. I pushed through and finished section 2. I can see the value now. If I had read this earlier it may have prevented my Rambo tirade.

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Title Way of the Superior Man
Author Cmvplease2
Upvotes 16
Comments 37
Date 08 August 2019 12:41 PM UTC (1 year ago)
Subreddit askMRP
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/247762
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/askMRP/comments/cnl7h7/way_of_the_superior_man/
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[–]helaughsinhidden22 points23 points  (1 child) | Copy

When he writes, he does so in such a way that it appears he believes in gender fluidity or is trying to please the mentally ill crowd. So, in theory, you could apply his insights to the traditional M+F relationship or MFFF+, M+M, F+F, etc and embraces the concept that everyone has elements of masculine and feminine, and he's not wrong either. This was kind of distracting to me while reading because it's hard to follow along while rolling your eyes, but like anything, you gotta pick the meat off of the bones.

That said, the completion of the book displays the masculine and feminine relationship as almost an artful and beautiful dance of complimentary strengths and weaknesses. To be honest, after reading NMMNG and RM, I had quite a bitter aftertaste towards women left behind. I thought WOTSM did a much better job of making sense of it all in a much more positive light, especially since I did the audio book read by the author. Like, since I know what a shit test and comfort test was from other readings, this helped to make them feel like something I didn't have to be angry about, but to actually appreciate my role in not only passing them, but even the fact that I am the one getting them.

Like, I would NOT want to be the one who was filled with worry and dread that felt the need to have to test everything like a blind person feeling their way through a new room hoping there is a trustworthy voice of a sighted person that I need to rely on. I legit felt more empathy and compassion for her, maybe even a little pity. So, the mental exercise of putting myself at least in moments in "her shoes" has benefits, not to actually become a faggot, not to become submissive to her, but at least better understand what it's like to have a chaotic mind. That and one of my favorite parts of the book was exploring your dark side, so don't be a pussy, keep reading it.

[–]Cmvplease2[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Like, I would NOT want to be the one who was filled with worry and dread that felt the need to have to test everything like a blind person feeling their way through a new room hoping there is a trustworthy voice of a sighted person that I need to rely on. I legit felt more empathy and compassion for her, maybe even a little pity.

Thanks for this

[–]2ndalRed Beret13 points14 points  (1 child) | Copy

I identify most closely with WotSM than any other MRP-approved book. That said, I would hesitate including it on the list of books to read for beginners. A lot of y'all come here in shitty situations and pissed off at your wife and women, instead of being pissed off at yourself. If you have not yet scaled and conquered that mountain, WotSM will likely not really jive with your mindset. It's only after you have started taking full responsibility does it turn into a game to appreciate versus a regimen enforced by a dictator with tits.

[–]Punishermp61 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

For sure, there's a reason it's part of the "graduate level" sidebar readings. You have to understand the basics first to fully appreciate the mindset, and spiritual flow being conveyed. Like a lot of Shit with MRP, I read WotSM at just the right time to keep me on course and my former angry beta self buried in the backyard.

[–]HornsOfApathyMod / Red Beret8 points9 points  (3 children) | Copy

Best book on the sidebar in my opinion. I have pretty much aligned my life with his views of the masculine and feminine. I now live in the masculine 100% of the time which creates immense polarity so she can live in her feminine.

This lead me to a D/s relationship with my wife.

I have read it no less than 27 times. Any questions, hit me up. Read all my posts. They are derived entirely from my journey living in this way. Extreme ownership and masculine energy.

The masculine grows with challenge. The feminine grows with praise.

Good luck.

[–]Cmvplease2[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Awesome. I'll check out your history. Thanks for this.

[–]HornsOfApathyMod / Red Beret1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Specifically my 2 posts on depressive and anxious wives.

[–]QuickieStart0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This is a good place to thank you for your two part post. The second post launched me into TWotSM. I'm now listening to it for the 3rd time thru. I love the short consise chapters packed with clarity.

[–]screechhaterRed Beret5 points6 points  (3 children) | Copy

Keep reading and just absorb.

Did you read Book of Pook all the way through ?

Part of the sidebar reading is to grab a ton of ideas and get one to inspire or instigate an absorbing effect and produce some aha moments and use that info directly related to you.

In the book he goes as far as you identifying a win, announcing it and perhaps your spouse not reacting at all as shit test. These tidbits go miles to unlock the psychy to which we are trying to “figure out”, when in reality, if you weren’t in that persons frame, you weren’t seeking the validation of her nod.

shit like that goes miles in relation to identify weak acting behaviors that kill attraction.

It’s really all quite simple.

Focus in on being attractive through solid commitment in areas such as lifting, weight loss, grooming/hygiene, wardrobe, operating in your frame drilling down your mission

Again - go back to “when I say no I feel guilty”

Seriously. Finish the books. Read them again and get hit in the face with the aha moments.

Most of all lift and workout consistently


[–]BobbyPeruRed Beret5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

Seriously. Finish the books. Read them again and get hit in the face with the aha moments.

This. I see too many men reading the same 2 or 3 books and then either stopping or re-reading the same ones. Reading them all gives the 30,000 foot view and helps in a much broader spectrum of situations/ issues

[–]FereallyRedHard Core Red2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

This. They are all little blocks of knowledge. The more you have the higher your pyramid. Nobody has all the answers, that's your job.

[–]Cmvplease2[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

unlock the psychy to which we are trying to “figure out”

Ok I can see the value there now. Thanks.

[–]redwall925 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

TWOTSM gave me the best feel for the concept of seeing a woman and her emotional nature as inseparable. Sometimes you enter into the emotional fray and play in the surf and the waves. Sometimes you are the oak on your own and she can come over and cling if she needs (and wants). Sometimes you're the rock that she bashes against when her emotional storm is overshelming.

TWOTSM fleshes this concept out there in a way that's not judgemental of woman for being this way - which can help get you to a point where the anger is moving on in your own head and where you can also focus on the 'you do you' mentality that MRP hammers home so often.

Maybe you see yourself as the feminine in your relationship, so the book doesn't apply much in your mind. Maybe you should give it to your SO for her to read.

[–]UnbreakableFrame5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

I had moments where I felt similarly to you. It definitely has a spiritualist/Christian vibe to it. That being said, it's the best book on the sidebar when it comes to leaving the anger phase and leveling yourself internally. It could probably be replaced with other books, but it serves a purpose that nothing else on the sidebar does.

[–]0io-Tsundere4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

The writing style is annoying and goofy but the content is great. Relationships need polarity.

[–]HornsOfApathyMod / Red Beret0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I disagree it's annoying. It requires mental fortitude.

Polarity is key. Take it far enough and you'll end up crazy like me.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

The first time I read it, I also found the flowery language vague and hard to follow. The second time it began to make a lot more sense. I’ve read it three times now and I think it’s great. The best thing I learned from that book is the breathing technique which is an awesome tool to have. I also got his sex book which is also fantastic.

[–]MrChad_ThundercockBig Red Machine2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

“The second time it began to make a lot more sense.”

Definitely true.

OP, when you read a book a second time it’s not that you find things you never saw before, but instead, you see things in yourself that weren’t there before.

[–]IncitingDramah3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's just like any of the books mentioned. I personally couldn't stand Rolo's self masturbatory style of writing, but the quality of the messages and golden tidbits provided are worth it.

Same with SGM, writing wasnt my taste, but jesus that stuff is worth its weight in gold.

[–]SteveStJohn2 points3 points  (6 children) | Copy

I thought the book was gyno-centric. She's not happy? Praise her. Don't talk to her. Don't tell her anything. Just praise her.

Everywhere else in TRP the advice is withdraw your attention from misbehaving women. Deida suggests heaping more attention and praise. It conflicts with the idea behind basic behavior modification--you don't reward the behaviors you don't like.

I am going to check out /u/hornsofapathy posts because his comment was interesting.

[–]HornsOfApathyMod / Red Beret1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

The idea is pretty simple.

Pavlonian in nature, the feminine grows through praise.

The masculine grows through challenge.

[–]SteveStJohn1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Praising alone isn't Pavlonian. Pavlovian is conditioning by associating unrelated behavior with the reward.

An example would be to praise her and simultaneously touch her in the same reassuring manner every time. Eventually the touch alone will yield the same positive results.

[–]sinklikeacork1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

If you’re trying to punish your wife by withdrawing attention, you’re keeping score. If you’re trying modify your wife’s behavior, you’re keeping score. You have to throw away the scoreboard.

We’re not here for manipulative behavior modification. We improve ourselves and hope our wives will follow. Anything beyond that is a ride on a covert contract down the fast track to resentment.

[–]SteveStJohn0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

So you are also against Deida's praise her endlessly method?

[–]mitch2you801 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

You’re just not seeing the matrix on this one. The “simply realize there is no spoon” quote in particular. Here’s my limited attempt to explain, Realize when she is in her “feminine “she is looking to whatever energy you feed her. She is looking to you for stability. If she’s acting shitty and in her masculine, AM and AA and lead. If she’s acting shitty and in her feminine, ignore what her behavior is and draw her to your frame.

[–]SteveStJohn0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

That's really good.

[–]FoxShitNasty834 points5 points  (4 children) | Copy

You are not ready for that yet, go back to when I say no I feel guilty.... Do not pass go, do not collect £200

[–]HornsOfApathyMod / Red Beret0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Agreed WISNIFG is ab absolute prerequisite to TWOTSM.

[–]Cmvplease2[S] -1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy

Finished that one 3x. I'll go over it again for sure. Good book.

[–]FoxShitNasty831 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Reading it isn't enough

[–]HornsOfApathyMod / Red Beret0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

How does someone explain reading comprehension?

Faggots here need a post on it.

[–]ReddJiveRed Beret2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is why Red Pill is a toolbox. Rifle around. Find what works for you what doesn’t. To also back up /u/2ndal said sometimes you don’t know what will come back to you as you progress.

I didn’t like WotSM yet it was a good read in general. Worth the time.

[–]MrChad_ThundercockBig Red Machine1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Skim to find the golden nuggets. Read multiple books at same time.

[–]HornsOfApathyMod / Red Beret1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Good advice for those seasoned but not so great advice for faggots who likely have never "finished" something in their lives.

[–]mitch2you801 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Thought it was stupid the first time I read it. Read it again and realized I was the stupid one.

[–]i-am-the-prize1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

I am glad it wasn't my first book (or 4th book) from the sidebar. glad to know it's considered non-beginner by the EC's here. I will say:

1) the complimentary nature of masculine vs. feminine being reinforced throughout the book helped me come up with a template for my actions and understanding why we're different and more importantly it's ok (essential) to be different and see things differently. Case in point that the level of "difference" between your masculine and her fem traits is what creates the attraction and tension was eye opening - ergo, maximizing that delta can be a conscious choice/act; and often when the gap is lessened is when you've fuck up.

2) ... to help guide my responses and reactions while they are still a "front brain" decision - vs. eventually being internalized reactions (ie: answer/view/react from a position or view of the masculine)

3) it also "allowed me" to do something special for my woman. Meaning, not a BB act/didn't cost me a dime; not supplicating/didn't emasculate me; no covert contract. Near the end of the book his idea of sharing/giving ones full love - if the desire/drive is there - it made an impact in my ability to NGAF in a positive way, meaning it's how i felt, not done to get her to love me or something needy. Before this 'risky' act of affection and love, I think I was seeing NGAF as solely armor for self defense; with only the negative protection as its utility. Yet, he inspired me to give love purely, in a way I hadn't in recent memory yet was NGAF framed because any reaction by her wasn't part of the calculus, it was the pure act and expression - and thus having zero covert contract in my act of loving.

[–]Cmvplease2[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I really wish that the positive side of DNGAF could be more easily communicated here. I'm not even sure how you would phrase it.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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