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Hoes mad. | Dalrock "majority of women also believe men are actively seeking consent for the wrong reasons. 39% of those surveyed feel men are asking for consent because they’re afraid of being publicly accused of sexual assault."

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Title Hoes mad. | Dalrock "majority of women also believe men are actively seeking consent for the wrong reasons. 39% of those surveyed feel men are asking for consent because they’re afraid of being publicly accused of sexual assault."
Author redpillschool
Upvotes 466
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Date 13 August 2019 09:08 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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[–]pm_me_tangibles356 points357 points  (70 children) | Copy

> The reality is that the vast majority of men don’t rape, so the only logical behavioral change on their part isn’t to stop doing something they already didn’t do, but take necessary measures to prevent being falsely accused.

Sums it all up perfectly. What the hell do feminists want the overwhelming majority of men to do? *Not* protect themselves against false accusations that destroy their lives permanently?

[–]lololasaurus138 points139 points  (46 children) | Copy

Yes. This is why they argue against men that follow the Pence rule and say that those men are living in fear.

Of course fear is just a word women use to shame men into doing what they want.

[–]Blaze-Bless88 points89 points  (30 children) | Copy

Yeah no doubt, Pence rule is great, if you're not going to pursue a woman sexually then it's a great out for not being alone with them, and it insulates you from false accusations; it's a win-win.

[–]lololasaurus57 points58 points  (2 children) | Copy

And if the women in question really were afraid of being harassed this would give them proof that it happened too, but it seems to me they are more interested in being able to make the accusation than the truth of the matter.

[–]Sendmeloveletters38 points39 points  (0 children) | Copy

They want that leverage. It was never about consent, it’s about drawing attention to the power the absence of consent gives them.

[–]cashcapone9614 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy

If the women in question really were afraid of being harassed then they'd be estatic over the Pence rule. Unsuprisingly, they're not.

Damned if you interact with them Damned if you don't.

[–]pm_me_tangibles40 points41 points  (25 children) | Copy

Really - even if you are pursuing a woman sexually you’d want to record everything that happens when you are alone.

Overall I’d say you want to protect yourself from all women all the time. Otherwise sooner or later you’re gonna get destroyed or blackmailed. Or one then the other. 20 years after an ONS or even a flirt you can be destroyed. It’s just not worth engaging women without perfect evidence. Even then perfect evidence might be legally inadmissible because it might hurt the feels of your false accuser.

MeToo is textbook witch-hunting.

[–]Plan_o-f_Will85 points86 points  (24 children) | Copy

Not sure if many people will read this reply/cautionary tale but a year ago I was 195lbs of shredded muscle, got tons of attention from women, like I'd go to the club and literally get molested by women all night sometimes getting my dick grabbed by more than one woman in a night and making out with strangers. I'm not exaggerating at all. At the time I was a cable installer and housewives would flirt like fucking crazy. I had married women who would shower with the bathroom doors left open and walk around wearing nothing but a towel. I never did anything about it because I didn't want to take too much of a risk. I felt like I was being a pussy.

One day a woman wearing a low cut shirt and no bra let me into her home. She was standing very close, making deep eye contact and it was very tense. I did my job and after it was done I went to find her and she was standing in the kitchen with a popsicle in her mouth. She came with me into the livingroom and sat with me on the couch nodding "mhmm" as I help her finish setting things up. As I leaned over to help her on her laptop she started sucking the popsicle, like bobbing and twisting her head, lapping it up and making audible slurps right in my ear between breaks in my sentences... My thoughts were getting a little broken up and I was starting to get light headed from the spike in blood pressure. Seemed she could tell because she actually started to slide the whole thing down her throat and out a few times. I was literally losing track of my words and stopping mid sentence and she obviously could take the hint. Man and woman sitting in a dim quiet room, sitting so close that we're touching, the only sound is my low voice and her sucking.

Well... My hand was already on the back of the couch and I dropped it to her side, landing on her outer thigh. She gave me this horrified look and I back off and proceed to be 100% professional. She acts like everything is fine and cool. 10 minutes later after finishing up everything I go out to grab a card and when I come back she's called her husband and she's putting on this huge emotional display, acting like I assaulted her.

I was fired that day. Had to talk to HR. Turns out she wanted to sue the company I worked for but it didn't go anywhere because of their iron clad contracts. I had to hire a lawyer, still owe him $1000. Lost a lot of muscle and motivation. Lost my apartment. Had to do 6 months of "don't rape people" class and go to court. Thank fucking God it's not on my record though and I'm not on a list because my attorney dropped the minor thigh touch down to just regular battery instead of sexual battery... All that because I assumed that her intentions were honest and that she wouldn't lead me on if she wasn't interested... No one ever led me on when I was fat and ugly. No one ever touched me. No one ever looked at me. I got strong and confident but still must have had some bluepill left in me... Well it's gone now.

If you're standing near a cliff edge she can't help but push you just to watch your body break apart on the rocks. It's just her nature. Never be vulnerable without an exit plan.

[–][deleted] 25 points26 points  (1 child) | Copy

Fuck dude. I've been in that same position and caved every time. Nothing bad ever came from it though. Your story is a true horror story. I've always thought that I could read a woman's intentions, but you put a fear in me that has never existed before.

[–]Plan_o-f_Will11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

The problem was that I was wearing a work uniform. That gave her leverage and power. The last sentence came to me after hours of analyzing the situation. One of the things that makes a man attractive is antifragility, so if you leave a massive opening for her to strike it's hard not to... Especially when cash prizes are involved.

[–]geo_gan17 points18 points  (1 child) | Copy

What an absolute cunt she was. And immediately tried to profit from it of course. I reckon she had the whole thing planned/premeditated.

[–]Plan_o-f_Will15 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy

I think she was having fun "flirting without fucking", hamstering and pretending nothing is going on. I made a move and then suddenly her plausible deniability was gone. I backed off which added further fuel to the fire. I left her alone long enough to hamster a story that made her innocent and by the time I got back damage was done. The fire was out of control.

[–]throwlaca14 points15 points  (2 children) | Copy

Dude, very similar thing happened to me. It's in my comment historial but here it is again. Five years ago I divorced, I was on the top of my game, physically fit, money, single.

A coworker was flirting with me like crazy in twitter and in private. I invited her to my home and she came. A friend of mine was just accused of harassment so I was walking on eggshells with her. I tried some moves that didn't worked (holding her etc.) then she was visibly uncomfortable and said she wanted to go home. I immediately grabbed my keys and gave her a ride home, no question asked. Cant risk a lawsuit right? we were flirting on the way home, she was not angry at all and actually we had coffee two or three more times.

Then I got another girl as LTR and didn't talk or saw her anymore. One year later, she's suing me for harassment, saying that I stalked her in a conference she assisted. This conference that I co-founded 10 years ago (yes, I co-founded it). I told the judge that I cannot possibly stalk her there because I basically worked there and she was actually only an assistant to the event. It didn't matter to my coworkers. I was promptly dumped from my own conference.

I ultimately won the lawsuit by a landslide (false testimony of her friends) but I am "cancelled" by the whole industry and friends. No longer allowed to conferences or industry meeting (she and her friends emailed every one of them). Oh, and my current LTR is not allowed either because she would feel uncomfortable. That's right, they cancelled my LTR too, can you believe it?

Fortunately didn't lose any job but likely lost many clients/connections. My LTR left me temporarily and that final straw drove me to TRP. I've been rebuilding my life since. Got together with my LTR and rebuilding my life and business since the incident.

Yes. I gave her a hug. And it almost destroyed my life.

[–]Plan_o-f_Will2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I was probably more expendable than you though as a cable guy. It was still my life though and a high paying job for what it was. It sucked going back to square one but it's better to get this lesson out of the way now than after I build a solid career and have a full bank account. It sucks but female instincts are the law of the land for everyone but the top .01% who can almost always bounce back as long as they're not pulling an Epstein.

[–]pm_me_tangibles8 points9 points  (4 children) | Copy

I was fired that day.

Brutal man. The lesson is don't make a move when a woman has plausible deniability. There must be a record of her sexual attention towards you. If she keeps flirting - shut it down subtly or suggest something that would create a record of her intent.

No one ever led me on when I was fat and ugly. No one ever touched me. No one ever looked at me. I got strong and confident but still must have had some bluepill left in me... Well it's gone now.

I hope you're strong again now. No sense in letting shitty people push you to a suboptimal life path.

[–]AnIslandForYourself 1 points [recovered]  (3 children) | Copy

The lesson is don't make a move when a woman has plausible deniability

Not exactly,as this is actually the best time to make a move.What i believe you meant is the opposite,that being not making a move when she doesn't have PB. In the example above,the wife was going to fuck this guy in the home where she and her family lived.The guy was doing his work and she was just going to fuck him.That's 0 PB. You'd need her hamster to see you the encounter as out of her control and at the same time she needs to have a level of comfort with you so that you're not just some sexy musclehead cable guy who came in her house and fucked her one hour after.That's a scenario that you see in porn ,it's basically begging "come fuck me already".

Women want to fuck,but her anxiety and insecurity can get the best of her,and it's what happened here.

[–]pm_me_tangibles0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Interesting take. Personally I define plausible deniability as the ability to convince others that you did not intend to do what you are accused of. eg if she had texted him indicating sexual interest or if he had recorded her expressing sexual interest - this would discount her PB.

[–]AnIslandForYourself 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

Plausible deniability is mostly about what the women thinks to herself and how she perceives the situation.Plausible deniability is when she thinks to herself that her cheating or having sex at an inappropriate time is "justified" because x which could be fat/unattractive/manipulative/insecure/abusive husband or something in the shape of "i lost control", "he made me do it" or "it just happened".For example when i invite a girl home to have sex i'd say something like "come see my goldfish" which would give her enough PB so that later on slut walk home the next morning she says to herself "We were only supposed to see his goldfish and i was drunk,idk what happened!!!".It's just about defending her fragile ego.

[–]pm_me_tangibles0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Ah: then we are using PB to mean different things. This is how I understand the term;

https://www.google.com/search?q=plausible+deniability+definition&rlz=1CDGOYI_enGB613GB614&oq=plausible.deniability+de&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0l3.8380j1j4&hl=en-GB&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

What you describe is what I would call good ol’ female solipsism: what I feel is real / anything bad in the past that I forget about did not occur / I can believe things and have them be true (retroactively or about other people) simply because I believe them:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solipsism

[–]zyqkvx3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

I had a similar story (as far as how it progressed). In mine I was kicked out of a league I'd been in for over 15 years. I kept my mouth shut and didn't resist the boot. I was agonizing inside but let it pass in the privacy of my own home. Then I went out and associated with some of these people outside league at other events as though I had nothing to be ashamed of. Meanwhile I think she was being weird at league probably let slip out to the organizer some words and vibes that she was into me despite her accusation. Then she left league 3 or so weeks after I was kicked out. It cast her in doubt I think. Then when next league started I was told I could join because she was not going to be in the league that time. I don't know what's going to happen if she comes back. I don't think she has the nerve. She might.

[–]SpookyDookyDoo8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

Fantastically written dude. Fiction or not, there are poignant truths to that story. The key take away: Don’t shit where you eat.

[–]Plan_o-f_Will11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

I wish it were fiction. I was very proud of myself and felt bullet proof having just physically become "alpha" but I didn't have the experience to navigate the new dangers. I just assumed everything would be peachy.

[–]edge_lord_super_171 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Joseph and Potiphar's wife comes to mind.

[–]Heizenbrg0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy

Damn sorry to hear... how tall are you

[–]Plan_o-f_Will0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

6' exactly. At least when I was lifting. Story might have gone differently if I was 6'5" and 225lbs lol

[–]Heizenbrg0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Damn I’m 5’7’ pretty built but never got my dick grabbed, eaither need more muscles or need elevator shoes lol

[–]Plan_o-f_Will3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

I wore 2" insoles in my boots, so I was both muscular and with the boots I looked about 6'2 or 6'3. I was sharply groomed, wore fitted t-shirts or Henley style long John shirts with rolled up sleeves. Straight leg fitted jeans. Kratom and alcohol for anxiety. I'd pop a cialis and used a dick pump so I'd be petty obviously hung and if a girl grinded on me she'd feel it. I think once the ball is rolling at the club and the female hive mind sees you as the apex in that particular room then they start to compete with one another like sharks that smell blood in the water. Once one girl grabbed my dick after grinding on me ("dancing") then two others did later that night. Also the muscle groping was much more common, almost constant. I couldn't go out without having my pecs biceps or abs felt up. I'd get occasional comments from men too which was awkward. One black dude was like "daayuumm" about my ass as I walked by and I was like what the fuck do I do lol.

The problem though is that despite all this effort and attention I still usually got nothing more than that. I'd basically get blue balls and go home alone with a $20-$50 bar tab most of the time. Then it was back to work for 5 days, sleep in and go to the club Friday and Saturday (so basically 2 shots per week at picking the one girl that's actually dtf instead of attention seeking) then back to work. So it's not as glamorous as it seemed, and the easiest lays were always the riskiest. I ended up with chlamydia twice and gonorrhea once.

Plates or girlfriends are where it's at. I prefer ltrs with all their complication. I miss the hunt but I don't miss the bullshit. I'm more confident now and have less to be afraid of so I could probably sift through it much more effortlessly than before but I have a gf whose stuck with me through the whole thing and I find that more fulfilling. I have nothing to prove to myself anymore but it was all valuable lessons.

[–]pm_me_tangibles43 points44 points  (2 children) | Copy

As a man you’d have to be insane not to protect yourself from false accusations these days.

The irony is that such men (who don’t protect themselves) are so patently unfit for anything - including sex - that feminists have effectively made all desirable men unwilling to engage in trusting relationships.

They’ve perfectly poisoned the well of monogamy or anything that can lead to it.

[–]lastdumra7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

Which is exactly what they wanted.

[–]pm_me_tangibles9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

You give them a lot of credit.

Personally I think they want to destroy male agency and have men reduced to grovelling, whimpering dehumanised serfs. At which point they will sincerely complain about the lack of dateable men, all the while blissfully ignorant of their driving role in creating the miserable state of affairs that they themselves find intolerable.

[–][deleted] 26 points27 points  (6 children) | Copy

How could they possibly argue against the Pence rule? A guy is sitting here actively avoiding situations where any gray area sexual misconduct could possibly happen, and they are mad about it? This guy is basically saying "not only am I not going to sexually harass you, I'm going to ensure that it couldnt possibly happen even if I wanted to". Where is the argument against that?

[–]lololasaurus22 points23 points  (2 children) | Copy

"Oh it shouldn't have to be like that." "Why are men choosing a fear based belief system where all women are out to get them?" "The patriarchy is denying women the ability to work equally with men like they would work with other men"

I'm not saying it's logical, but this is a tiny subset of the ways they do it.

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (1 child) | Copy

Want to work with men like we do other men? Take that stupid joke that fred said about your mom. Or the one about you secretly liking it in the ass. Or the nickname that the guys just gave you. Us guys communicate differently than inter sexual communication. Some shit just doesnt fly when said to the opposite sex (from either side really).

[–]lololasaurus15 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy

You forget that women live in the moment of emotion. Right now she likes the idea of working with men as their equal. When it requires more than she likes she will not like it.

It is that simple

[–]eventual1234513 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy

Pence rule spells out that, thanks to #MeToo, women must now be treated like ticking time bombs that will accuse and sue if not handled with care. This can hinder a woman's ability to perform jobs and make it harder for women to get hired.

[–]geo_gan7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

They actually want the ability to get any man alone and then accuse him if they choose to. They are pissed if they are denied this ability in future.

[–]geo_gan2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy

What is Pence rule? Not being alone with any woman?

[–]WiseMonkeyGoodMonkey27 points28 points  (2 children) | Copy

Pretty much. Don't do meals alone with a woman. No closed door meetings. Shit like that. Has em barking mad because they're "missing out on mentoring opportunities that men get". Textbook "be careful what you wish for" stuff.

[–]VaN__Darkholme7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

Hmm, that sounds similar to a friend of mine. He refuses to take the elevator in the Uni when there's a bunch of women in it.

[–]WiseMonkeyGoodMonkey5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Is that over the top? Possibly. Is he likely to get nailed by something like this? Less likely because of that. It's not even a big effort. Take some stairs once in a while.

[–]5Imperator_Red57 points58 points  (5 children) | Copy

What the hell do feminists want the overwhelming majority of men to do?

They don’t have well thought out positions because they are children. They simply say whatever they feel and no one tells them to shut the fuck up.

[–]pm_me_tangibles19 points20 points  (0 children) | Copy

They’re just acting out of anger and a desire to avoid confronting that fact that their failures are overwhelming their own fault.

[–]aweful_aweful10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

Heart of the matter. Well said.

[–]Dls9540510 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is exactly the situation. We need to start telling them to shut the fuck up.

[–]alecesne7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

They want control. To dictate the terms of social interactions. Same thing as anyone else. What differs are the tools they use, the justifications they give, and the level of empathy they employ for the other side.

[–]Psynaut17 points18 points  (4 children) | Copy

When you take yourself out of a situation where you can be falsly accused, you take away their power in the situation, even though that power is the power to ruin your life falsely. In their minds, you are just disempowering them all over again and they hate that. They won't be happy until they have the power to choose whether or not to ruin your life, and you have no say in the matter.

[–]pm_me_tangibles16 points17 points  (0 children) | Copy

Nice summary. They want 'rape' / 'sexual abuse' to expand to ultimately mean 'a man displeasing a woman he has interacted with' - even if said interaction was just a handshake.

They want this right to claim displeasure to apply retroactively throughout the entirety of their lives so that if they feel fickle three decades later - they can still destroy your life.

[–]TulioGente4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

Yeah, ultimately they just want a choice. It's very similar to the banning of paternity tests in France. Women want the choice to say who's the father. Sadly it's only logical that women would want the best for them.

[–]cupshadow2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

That is a perfect explanation.

[–]Endorsed ContributorKeffirLime14 points15 points  (7 children) | Copy

You could never appease a feminist because the point of feminism is not to follow an arbitrary set of rules, it's about female control and male submission.

[–]pm_me_tangibles9 points10 points  (6 children) | Copy

I think there's another aspect to it too. They unconsciously just want to dismantle male agency and have men grovel like slaves at their feet. At which point they will be disgusted and complain loudly about the lack of good men. Feminism is the expression of self-defeating character of unchecked female nature.

[–]Endorsed ContributorKeffirLime12 points13 points  (3 children) | Copy

It's the paradox of female attraction.

Feminism is the expression of women's biological appeal for more comfort as a hivemind. The same way your girlfriend tells you she doesn't want you talking to other women, or that she wants you to express to her how much she means to you.

In reality, when you do what she says, giving her comfort, she becomes less attracted to you.

[–]pm_me_tangibles3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Exactly. It’s an unconscious shit test.

[–]edge_lord_super_171 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

do you know any specific keywords i can type in the search bar to look up more about ( your girlfriend doesnt want you talking to other women, but you should since not talking to the them gives them comfort and they get bored)?

[–]RainySeasonInPH3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Look, feminism, along with all other female shit tests, is a challenge that they want to lose. In other words, they DON'T want to dismantle male agency and have men grovel like slaves at their feet, they want to grovel at men's feet. But the alternative is also acceptable, if you fail.

It's fork, like in chess. Take this, check, decline, also check.

Subscribing a beta male as an orbiter, or submitting to an alpha, are both successful female strategies. Resources or alpha sperm are both wins. The only loss is beta sperm, which is why they try so hard to avoid it.

[–]pm_me_tangibles1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Playing fast and loose with the word ‘want’ there buddy.....

Sure at some level they get aroused by a man who refuses to acquiesce to their BS. But consciously they get possessed by the notion that they really do want what they say to themselves that they want (to dismantle male agency).

[–]Irtotallynotrobot6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

Yes, why is that so fucking hard to concede?

[–]pm_me_tangibles22 points23 points  (0 children) | Copy

It’s hard for me to empathise with personalities like these. My best guess is that they want to ultimately and completely dismantle any form of male agency and they get angry that men react to side step their malice and hatred in order to merely self preserve.

The irony is that any man that does let his agency be thus dismantled - as they seem to want - will of course lose every quality of sexual attractiveness. I mean how could such a man ever be trusted to protect even himself let alone his partner?

They have in effect created a situation in which only unattractive men will consider them sexually. Which of course feeds further into their hatred and anger.

[–]lobstergenocide2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

double standard is the standard

[–]SonOfMammon1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

They want to be able to keep accusations as a tool to manipulate the system and the public.

[–]1NathanHollister105 points106 points  (4 children) | Copy

How is that the "wrong reason"? Isnt that the whole point of consent

[–]BoiledAngel53 points54 points  (1 child) | Copy

“when a woman ruins your life by accusing you of sexual assault or sexual harassment, without any evidence or [past] the time that any evidence could be collected.”
Until false accusation is a crime then men will always be defensive.

[–]1neveragoodtime21 points22 points  (0 children) | Copy

How can there be a wrong reason for asking consent? The truth is women want men to ask for consent, but they do not want affirmative consent to be interpreted as protection against later accusations of sexual assault. Yes Means Yes was founded on the basis that a yes could be coerced and therefore could not be used as a defense against false accusations. No Means No always means no, but it puts the burden of communication on the woman regardless of if he asks.

[–]lugrulo10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

Everything men ever do is wrong apparently

[–]Gnosiis_81 points82 points  (2 children) | Copy

Metoo'd

This phrase is hugely problematic, as it steers the conversation from women and their bodies onto men and their feelings.

This. They want to control the narrative. But at the end of the day, women want to protect their own sexual strategy at all times. Women want betas to disqualify themselves while simultaneously not discouraging alphas. The problem they've run into is that the whole #Metoo movement may be scaring off betas AND some alphas. I think they realize this problem so they want to protect the validity of Metoo as much as possible.

[–]dpgproductions35 points36 points  (0 children) | Copy

I was about to post this same quote. Holy shit I didn’t realize my reputation, livelihood, relationships with friends and family all just boil down to “my feelings”. Go fuck yourself lmao

[–]Bluffernaut092 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

They wanna put men on a leash and control by "consenting" according to their desire. That's such a turn off, even for gay men.

[–]truest22126 points127 points  (0 children) | Copy

Sometimes I ask people for things so I’m not accused of stealing 😂🤷🏾‍♂️

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon28 points29 points  (0 children) | Copy

Women project.

They're selfish, self serving and hypergamous so they project those things onto men. She thinks "why would I not do something that I wanted to do?" and then answers herself with "because it's illegal".

There's no recognition of the fact that the vast majority of men are good, and no recognition of how much they've distorted the sexual marketplace with their (mostly false) sexual assault accusations, especially in the workplace where there's a nice fat payout to be made.

[–]Psycholephant58 points59 points  (0 children) | Copy

Most women are extremely calibrated and can certainly tell when a man is just trying to get his rocks off. But they open their legs for them anyway. They have only themselves to blame for this.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil63 points64 points  (12 children) | Copy

SJW types represented by the bottom left of the graph, are comparatively low intelligence. They're not good at systematizing or predicting things and instead rely on empathy and teamwork to get ahead.

Affirmative Consent is something that sounds good to high empathy people. The fact that their would be consequences down the line was impossible for them to predict, because as their test scores show their not very good at predicting.

This SJW retard shitshow is only going to end when the student loans bubble bursts

[–]Omnidempotent49 points50 points  (7 children) | Copy

There's an old joke in academia: why does the english department exist? To subsidize the engineering department.

[–]Protocol_Apollo15 points16 points  (1 child) | Copy

“Rely on empathy and teamwork to get ahead” couldn’t agree more.

Surprised medical and health science is ranked below average though

[–]BendAndSnap-5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Because the high intelligence health oriented students are taking the MCAT, Dental School tests, etc. not the GRE.

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (1 child) | Copy

deleted What is this?

[–]alecesne6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

I’ve seen people debate the voltage on batteries. What you mean is, there is an objective answer sometimes and it shouldn’t be debated.

[–]facelessnessxx20 points21 points  (2 children) | Copy

Hard to fucking blame us for taking precautions. Im starting to think all the pictures of Keanu Reeves not putting his hands around women he poses with is a statement to the public about the conditions men currently live (just as much as it is to protect himself from every other Delilah that crosses his path).

[–]RedPilledGodEmperor0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Interesting you brought that up. I google searched “Keanu Reeves photos with women” and it seems like a number of people have noticed.

https://www.insider.com/keanu-reeves-hand-hovering-above-women-in-photos-twitter-2019-6

[–]WouldYouKindly_STFU14 points15 points  (4 children) | Copy

"But the majority of women and femmes also believe men are actively seeking consent for the wrong reasons."

I'm confused. Isn't "femmes" French for "women?"

It's like saying:

"But the majority of mujeres and Frauen also believe men are actively seeking consent for the wrong reasons."

[–]RightHandWolf12 points13 points  (1 child) | Copy

Did you read the linked article? At the very bottom of the page, Dalrock posted a link to the following article about the whole "women and femmes" thing:

https://slate.com/human-interest/2018/03/women-and-femmes-phrase-in-queer-feminist-activism-makes-no-sense.html

That should clear things up . . . NOT!! The slate article is another bit of word salad vomited upon a defenseless readership. You know, those tragically hip people with a room temperature IQ. More verbal gymnastics for the intellectually lazy types the SJW movement couldn't survive without.

[–]WouldYouKindly_STFU2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah, I was just making fun of their terminology.

Also, that article, wow. It was like Commander Data from Star Trek was reprogrammed into a SJW sociologist-journalist droid.

[–]hearse2233 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Feminine lesbians want to be a separate category from women.

Woman and femmes, even though no one says men and butches.

[–]JohnnyCocktails9329 points30 points  (1 child) | Copy

Women make rules for betas and break them for alphas

[–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

No different than reading all the requirements in some chick's tindr profile. Those words are for betas (I'm not looking for hookups, short-term flings, you need to treat me and my kid like royalty, etc), not for alphas who can happily ignore them and proceed.

[–]Pezotecom11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

So the right reason is asking those women in the act if they are okey with doing it, as if they were stupid human beings that can't think for themselves and need a fucking question to figure it out.

[–]Morpheus_TNTB11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

Fuck all this feminist noise! It's sad only 2 generations of weak men brought this destruction to our society. Order the popcorn as the decline is going to be a class A shit-show.

[–]TRP Vanguardnicethingyoucanthave10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

For a group who loves to say "that's a social construct" feminists have hilariously missed the boat on this one. The truth is, verbal consent is a social construct. Meaningful consent, on the other hand, is always non-verbal.

This should be obvious for two reasons. First, if we're worried that a woman will be too afraid to say "no" to a threatening and overly aggressive man, then obviously we should be worried that when an overly aggressive man recites the magic words, "do you consent to penis-in-vagina intercourse?" she will be too afraid to say "no"

Secondly, our instincts around sex are older than our facilities for speech. Obviously, the "right way" (the way that women will be most comfortable with - the way they'll consent to) must be older than speech as well. If TRP is about getting at the truth of human sexuality, it's about getting at that specific truth.

Trying to add a contrived ceremony involving words on top of this ancient and exquisitely designed dance is just asking for trouble - asking to confuse things and lead you into more trouble.

Watch a woman's actions. Watch for her to participate, for her to carry her portion of the dance. That's the key.

I'll even illustrate this through a negative example. Remember aziz ansari? Remember when he got metoo'd? If you go back and read her account of that night, the two of them made out, they took of their clothes, she sucked his dick (twice in fact), and then Ansari proceeded to say, and I quote, "where do you want me to fuck you?"

That sentence, "where do you want me to fuck you" is Ansari attempting to obtain enthusiastic verbal consent without resorting to the extra beta-sounding "may I please touch your vagina" (and in point of fact, given that they were naked, he had almost certainly already touched her vagina). According to her, she didn't say anything at all. They continue to make out, Ansari repeats his request, eventually she says the magic word "no" at which point (again, according to her), he promptly ceases all contact. She puts on her clothes, leaves, and metoo's him.

The words didn't help Ansari. If anything, his belief that asking for consent was a get-out-of-jail-free card actually hurt him - it blinded him to her body language. In particular, note that she sucked his dick twice. That suggests that things got hot then stalled somehow. Then he went back to it a second time, got his dick sucked again (still didn't cum though, lol), and then tried for sex. He fucked up the interaction somewhere in between blow job 1 and blow job 2.

The words didn't save him because consent is not now, nor has it ever been verbal. This is not legal advice, of course. It could be that in your jurisdiction the law says even if she's literally begging you to fuck her, you still have to get a notary involved. But what I'm saying is true of human sexuality.

Feminists don't know shit about human sexuality nor do they care. It's not a movement designed to help women. It's a political movement interested only in perpetuating itself. If their rhetoric about verbal consent muddies the waters that's actually good for feminism. It's just not good for you, or the girl you're with. By contrast, TRP is only interested in what's true. If speaking words to women made them happy and more attracted to you, I would wholeheartedly endorse speaking those words ...but it doesn't.

[–]Greaterbird5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'd imagine a lot of men don't know hot to ask for consent in a sexy and dominant way. I like the cold reading style "I bet you want x, don't you?" approach.

[–]pebblefromwell5 points6 points  (3 children) | Copy

What I did was put security cameras throughout the house and landscape if my house and then for legal I put up signs saying that if you come on my property you are under surveillance. No chick has ever questioned were the cameras were.

[–]MatrixofLe3adership0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Have you talked with a lawyer about legal evasive answers if they do?

[–]pebblefromwell4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

I'm not evasive if they ask. If they ask o tell them that the entire property and house is under camera surveillance. Lawyer told me I could be in trouble if I did not disclose. Also the reason for the sign. Most of them do not ask they just assume what they want and that it is normal security.

[–]throwlaca20 points21 points  (0 children) | Copy

Wow, what a complex issue isn't it? I'm not joking, it's truly complex. Women lie and falsely accuse all the time, and I mean all the time. Men do the same, also rape, abuse and fuck drunk women wherever we can. We have to accept that.

It's a complex issue. Religion solved this 5000 years ago, its called 'marriage'. Marriage is eternal mutual
consent. That's exactly what it is. Ancient people had this problem and managed to invent that social solution that is brilliant, fixing consent and many other problems.

Now, women abused marriage so marriage is no longer a viable path for men, and they are pushing for "consent" that basically is a temporary marriage. Don't be surprised when they start adding economical issues to 'consent', the same way a marriage have them.

[–]kaolin2243 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Uh yeah, I thought this was their idea all along. Not sure why they're surprised.

When you can accuse a man of sexually assaulting you for saying hello, looking at you, or because you suddenly feel like it, of course they're going to withdraw and treat you like a poisonous snake.

Many of us have careers over a decade in the making. Fuck losing that because some crazy woman wants to jump on the bandwagon and get those likes.

[–]TipsyLeo22 points23 points  (4 children) | Copy

I fucking hate libtard feminazis. This country is going to shit

[–]Lateralanouncer15 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy

Woman. Fuck me raw but don’t cum in me. Man. Got her pregnant by mistake.

Woman. Rape.

[–]8380atgmaildotcom6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy

Sooner or later virtual assault is going to be a real thing.

It kind of already is with that one girl who's getting tried for persuading that dude to kill himself

[–]novalentineforyou9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

You should read the details of that case and tell me the bitch doesn't deserve prison time

[–]Project_Zero_Betas3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Sooner or later virtual assault is going to be a real thing.

In New York it's been codified as "harassment" or any of its various incarnations.

[–]MrLowBot8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

I don’t ask for a sandwich... I take the sandwich that she hands me when she comes to me from the kitchen.

[–]Sendmeloveletters1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

What other reason is there?

[–]SILENTSAM691 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Very well written. Hilarious to hear this is spun in a negative way.

[–]Dls954051 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Ladies, wake the fuck up. You are crashing civilization. It's asinine to make such a ludicrous complaint.

[–]TheFlyingPro1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

And now feminists are whining because men’s fear of being metoo’d is making business networking more difficult for female employees...

[–]MCFiletMignon1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

The trend here is that we are getting shoehorned into a world where we accept legislation for everything.

Global authoritarian regime here we come.

[–]Hjalmbere1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

There’s an upside to this for me since I get really turned on by saying ”Say you want my dick or I won’t fuck you”. There’s no way I’ll be convicted of rape if she’s moaning ”fuckmefuckmefuckme” through the entire thing.

[–]jsphere2561 point2 points  (7 children) | Copy

So perceptive, woah

Here's a red pill. A man who truly loves her, and whom she truly loves, isn't interested in "consent". I interpret this as women slowly figuring out that having sex with a man who doesn't love you is a mistake.

[–]heartbroken_nerd24 points25 points  (5 children) | Copy

A man who "truly loves" a woman is a dumbass.

In a relationship, the man likes the woman, while the woman loves the man.

That's the only way this has ever worked out in favour of everyone involved.

Any other way, it's just a recipe for disaster in the making.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (4 children) | Copy

Yep. I've experienced all of those variances. By far the best one for me is when the girl is enamored with me and I like her just enough to keep her around. She treats me amazingly and doesnt play games. I get to live a stress free existence (besides explaining where I was the night before).

When I was the guy chasing I was never what the girl really wanted. I'd get some booty but there was always something missing. I'd have to fight back useless jealousy emotions. It was a futile effort.

I did have it one time where things seemed to be balanced, but ultimately the scales tipped back to her and it got all screwed up. It's a sad story of how I lost a 10.

Dont feel too bad for me though boys. I still spin plates and get my dick plenty wet. I'm happy.

[–]ryandiy5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

By far the best one for me is when the girl is enamored with me and I like her just enough to keep her around.

I completely agree. I was head over heels in love with a woman a few years ago and was considering marriage. Then she started treating me like shit. The last few months of that relationship were miserable.

Now I'm with a woman who is enamored with me and loves to be submissive. I like her but I'm not crazy in love with her. And yet this relationship is way more stress free and enjoyable than the previous one.

[–]ogkushinjapan1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

A woman who’s SMV is lower than yours will most likely be easier to handle in an ltr. Assuming there’s no mental disorders involved.

[–]bcvickers1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Assuming there’s no mental disorders involved.

And that's a big assumption; damn there's a lot of women on happy pills these days; wtf?

[–]ogkushinjapan1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Right? Like is it still a disorder if every chick has it haha

[–]Dravous4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

I interpret this as women slowly figuring out that having sex with a man who doesn't love you is a mistake.

could have just asked grandma. if women listened to them they'd save themselves a lifetime of pain and regret.

[–]frognads0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This is one of those NO SHIT kinda stories lol

[–]sebastianconcept0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

MeToo is the feminine collective trying to frame the masculine collective. MGTOW is a defense to hold status quo.

[–]BittyMitty0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

For some, the principle of cause and effect is a mystery...



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