Robert Glover in NMMNG: "Talk About Fight Club."

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McLuhanSaidItFirst
August 3, 2019
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I'll follow NMMNG whatever she thinks, but what I talk about is relevant to attraction.

MRP says "do not talk about Fight Club" and has NMMNG in the side bar.

NMMNG says on p. 18 "If you are currently in a relationship, I encourage you to ask your partner to read this book along with you."

To me it seems like bad advice if she has lost attraction to your faggot ass. If she is still attracted, talking about NMMNG won't increase that much, if at all, for most women. My guess is, it's probably unnecessary and hazardous.

Glover is a smart guy, but I think he missed the boat in this one instance. The only time it might come up usefully is in dread where she says "you're changing, what does all this mean? What's happening?" And handing her the book would be the answer to the comfort test, but only if she's on your side.

I think I know what guys are going to say here: "she's never on your side, she's on her own side."


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Title Robert Glover in NMMNG: "Talk About Fight Club."
Author McLuhanSaidItFirst
Upvotes 14
Comments 22
Date 03 August 2019 06:38 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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[–]SteelSharpensSteelMod / Red Beret[M] [score hidden] stickied comment (0 children) | Copy

Steel says: You do not talk about fight club. I say it in my guide, it's been brought up many times here. I think even Glover later on recognizes that it was a mistake to talk about NMMNG.

[–]MrChad_ThundercockBig Red Machine13 points14 points  (1 child) | Copy

Yes, it’s bad fucking advice. Don’t do it. Equally as bad is the advice about taking a sex moratorium...also somewhere in that book.

If you’re a fag do both of those things.

[–]Iammrp26 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Lol yeah. Here's some quotes about taking a sex moratorium.

Allows the Nice Guy to see that he can live without sex

Helps the Nice Guy realize that no one else but him holds the key to his sexual experience

Helps the Nice Guy

... how about murdering the nice guy attitude instead?

[–]0io-Tsundere8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

NMMNG is a great book overall, but Glover wrote it about 20 years ago and some stuff in it is wrong, which I think he freely admits now. Don't take him up on the advice to have your wife read the book with you. I forgot the exact details but I think he also has a chapter about not initiating sex which is also just a bad idea (maybe I'm mistaken and that was in a different sidebar book).

The toolkit has improved over the last 20 years.

His key points all stand, eliminate covert contracts, learn to put your own needs first, etc.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

A guy here recently told his wife he was reading it and really made shit worse. Then went Rambo. Doh. They need an amendment or warning for new happy tards

[–]Iammrp26 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

I remember reading that and said to myself "fuck that" as I imagined something like "listen sweetly! I'm supposed to take care of my needs. It says so in the book! Can I get your support in this please?".

He talks about NMMNG support groups etc. He's probably just trying to sell more books. Take the gold and leave the shit. It's not hard.

[–]MrTrizzles5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

Talking about your self-improvement is a tacit admission of your failures. Show her, don't tell her.

[–]Iammrp22 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Good point. Show your failures to your guy friends. Such vulnerability can create strong bonds as they learn from you and you learn from them. But don't make the mistake thinking she is one of your guy friends. Far from it.

[–]arm_candy3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

Can a mod just update the sidebar to point to one of these discussions? This one point seems to come up more often than the rest of the book.

[–]SteelSharpensSteelMod / Red Beret5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

It is on my guide which is pinned, as well as literally the first post on the sidebar - https://www.reddit.com/r/marriedredpill/comments/acvzgx/steels_guide_to_married_red_pill/edb8y59/

If people don't read, they're only doing themselves a disservice.

[–]arm_candy2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Fair enough. If it’s already in the sidebar then there’s not much else to do. I didn’t realize the note was in there already.

[–]SorcererKingMod / Red Beret2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

/u/niceguycoach is a certified Glover NMMNG coach, and has remarked on more than one occasion that Dr. Glover has backed off of the "talk about Fight Club" stance, as in, the author of NMMNG too now says "don't talk about Fight Club."

[–]RStonePT2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

We talked about that a bit when we met last year. At the time his intentions were good, and that women loved nothing more than her man stepping up and being a better man.

It's taken a lot of emails and such over the years, he did talk about it being counter productive for some couples...

[–]niceguycoach1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Thanks for mentioning that. The more I work with guys on the material the more I realize that most women won’t be able to assimilate it in a helpful way. It’s better to just let a woman know that you’re working on yourself and leave it at that. I encourage my clients to NOT share what we talk about with their wives for example. Instead I encourage them to just put the principles into practice and interact with her in the most authentic way possible.

[–]IRunYourRiver2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

This comes up every couple of months on this subreddit and the advice is always the same: Don't talk about fight club. You have the right instincts. Proceed.

I got confused by this one too.

[–]RPeed0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

The first rule of fight club is: please, please don’t talk about CrossFit.

[–]IRunYourRiver2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Ha! You know you want to hear me talk about wall balls. Slowly. In a falsetto. With a lisp.

[–]nothestrawberrypatch1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

I told my ex wife and she took it like I had douped into some kind of a fake marriage. That everything I did for her was to get something in return, like I didn’t actually love her.

I mean, it’s likely she just wanted out of the marriage and it was a great way to shame me, but tread lightly my friend. My advice would be to read the book, practise what it preaches in silence.

Re-read: EX WIFE.

[–]McLuhanSaidItFirst[S] 1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

likely she just wanted out of the marriage

the rationalization hamster - I've met that one.

I am tracking with everyone here.

DNTAFC

I felt like a douche just thinking about a conversation like that .

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I've talked more about fight club than you should. At this point I have passed all the shit tests related but they don't stop coming. The same fucking ones over and over. It's like she forgets that she has used them before.

Admitting failure and being vulnerable only works if you have frame to deal with the repercussions. I can admit failure now because I am actually a different man. The issue for me is that it was less than a year ago before I made a massive change. The faggot memory is still too new. It takes to erase the image of the old faggot.

[–]nothestrawberrypatch0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

DNTAFC? Unsure of this acronym?

[–]McLuhanSaidItFirst[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

"Do Not Talk About Fight Club"



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