Large social group with regulars (100+). Best strategy from a Redpill perspective?

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August 15, 2019
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There is a short term objective and a long one. Kind of mutually exclusive

Short term: Flirt with the chicks there. Pissing off their beta oribiters. Potentially giving you a bad rep in the group.

Long term: Be friends with the chicks there (a big no for me), hit on their friends when they invite you to parties and stuff.

What would you do?


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Title Large social group with regulars (100+). Best strategy from a Redpill perspective?
Author daddydickie
Upvotes 81
Comments 24
Date 15 August 2019 12:12 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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[–]xx-Rain_Maker-xx70 points71 points  (2 children) | Copy

Befriend the men. Men will give you social proof. Then some women will approach you, befriend them. That will give you preselection. Then go for the hottest chick.

[–]Channel_oreo12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy

can't agree more. if you ignore women they will approach you more.

[–]DonaldSchwarzenegger1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Or opposite. Charm the women without flirting too hard. Befriend men at the same time. You pull all the women and the men get jealous and hate on you. The girls pick up on this and bam, preservation on steroids. Then get the hottest chick

[–]CopeTiliRope115 points116 points  (0 children) | Copy

Social Circle Game is longterm only. If you want to bang one or two of them, go for it, but they’ll burn you in the group and ruin the other prospects.

You definitely want to play it slow. Make friends with everyone. Talk to the Alphas and get them to like you and bring you into the upper circle, be flirty with the girls but stay friendly, get the respect of the betas. The goal is to float to the top of the food chain and then you can bang as much as you want because the group will be on your side.

[–]jbpostv26 points27 points  (5 children) | Copy

I’m in this situation myself. 1. Be one of the cool people. Make friends with the cool people, like yourself, and be one of the the fun ones. 2. Make friends with everyone. Just go chit chat and politic, 30 seconds just to check in with people. Smile make life seem like it’s going well and easily for you (best if it actually is) 3. Project SMV. Put your best foot forward. Dress well. Smell good. Groom good. 4. Establish biddies. In social circle game I think this is key. Find girls who you’re not gonna move on and develop a running, casually flirtatious acquaintanceship with them. Guys who get it know how to flirt with girls in a way that conveys it’s just for fun. It’s great practice and it sends social proof through the roof. Be the guy all the girls know and most of the girls see flirting and joking with other girls. This shows you get it. Girls above all are afraid of weirdos. Guys who can’t make girls laugh, tease or even be friendly and comfortable. Don’t move on your biddies. They’re your marketing department. Dan bilzerian is probably only banging at most of quarter of the chicks he’s hanging with. The rest are biddies, and the social proof compounds. 5. Ice some 10’s. Once you’re the big man in town or on campus, find a few hot chicks and make biddies of them. Now you’re flirting with them. But then, ice em. Or ice them from the start. They will become so insecure that you’re not about them it will drive them insane. A 10 will do almost anything in her power to prevent someone from thinking otherwise in a closed circle. Plus all the other girls see that you’re rejecting/aren’t interested in a smoke. That’s high SMV. 6. Qualify 7-9’s. They start as biddies but then develop a masculine, dominant and more mature attitude with them. Sift through them and build up over time. 7. Sift through and realize you don’t have more than 3 to blow through. If reputation forms that you’re a player chasing all the tails youve lined up, a lot of girls in circle will blow you off because they don’t want to be “the next one”. If you’re in a closed circle, everyone knows everyone’s business. Girls will want to develop more rapport with you because if things don’t work out, then they were just one of your lays. If things don’t work out with a girl, youve just eliminated her friend group. Girls think in packs. Don’t go after more than one girl in the same pack and realize if you get blown out by one, there’s a fairly high chance you’ve ruined it with her closest friends. Being a player and acting like one works well in day/night game but in closed circle there’s the lack of anonymity and girls will get jealous. Animosity, drama and auto reject will ensue. I’ve been there, but right now being careful how I play my cards. 8. Pick one, a good one!

Good luck

[–]D3athN0te1013 points4 points  (3 children) | Copy

Just commenting so I can find & read this again later.

[–]Sove1312 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

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[–]FuckMeHarderDebty0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

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[–]daddydickie[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Thanks, that's the answer I'm looking for.

But a few chicks over 100+ chicks? Holy shit.

[–]i-am-the-prize12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy

caring about the beta orbiters is wrong Frame.

flirt with the women who interest you for your own benefit. isolate and escalate the ones that attract you.

be friends with other men. do manly shit.

[–]WIA20XX17 points18 points  (0 children) | Copy

Red Pill says leader of men.

Pickup says leader of men in public, fuck chicks in the group on the low.

[–]theredsperg 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

red pill perspective? my perspective is that girls do swap men regularly, don't hit on bro's hos (there's a code for that)

as reality goes, not being the friendly dude who gets on with anyone will result in you being rejected from the group.

[–]D3athN0te1018 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

This.

Back in my NiceGuy days, I had lots of male friends, but couldn't get laid to save my life.

So i decided to do a 180 & just be an asshole to everybody.

The thought process was "well, being nice isn't getting me laid, might as well be an asshole. Worse case scenario, eveything stays the same."

But in reality, being an asshole just ostracized me from all my social circles. My friends, much of my family, all of them told me to fuck off.

Seems obvious now, but there's a balance.

Be a nice guy regularly, but an asshole when it's necessary.

It's about respect, standing up for yourself and not budging on your beliefs, something many of my fellow millennials were taught was "toxic masculinity" growing up.

[–]rpsheepdog4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Bet better than betas, but be friendly with them. More or less ignore the chicks, be fun in your interactions with them, but people will do the work for you (talking about you in a good light when you aren't around).

Find other chicks to bang.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

act like yourself. Don't put on a fake alpha persona to impress anyone because you will look like a cringey tryhard. Being an alpha is a status, not a personality.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Dont give attention to the betas let them interact with you first (they wont because you’re ignoring their existence) and you probably don’t want to be flirting in a group more like in private

[–]rejjiesnortssnow1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Is this for uni?

[–]Standgrounding0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Might be, or for work.

[–]ReddJive3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

I like this post. Truly shows that someone is just putting thier red pill colored sunglasses for the weekend. Like those bros that go to the gym Friday after work to get a pump on before they go clubbing.

Sure they look good but it’s nothing more than an aesthetic to them. There’s no work there, they don’t even know what the hell they are doing, just pumping blood and water into the area to be swole.

This isn’t about getting the Red Pill persective. This is about living life in such a way as you can’t live it any other way any more. If you can legitimately switch back and forth you’ve not understood what it is you are to learn here.

What I would do isn’t what you are capable of doing. Why? You are way too worried about what others think. You are so deep into others frame you licking the inside of their craniums.

What would I do? Go and have fun. Enjoy myself. If that meant running into a girl I liked i’d Bring her back to meet my girlfriend.

What i would do isn’t what you would do.

[–]superjetale1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I agree. Even when I like PUA startegies like above comments. I do think you need to enjoy yourself and women will come. That is my strategy and it works. Im pretty sure applying PUA strategies on how to work a group would give me more pussy, but who cares. The purpose is to enjoy yourself. IMHO

[–]no_re-entry0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Honestly, get the respect of all the men and play it long term. Everything else will fall in place.

[–]PreEntertain0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Your short term will end up being your long term.

[–]BornShook0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Read the mystery method. Whole sections of the book are dedicated on this question

[–]DAOcomment20 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Lead the men. Lead the women. By lead, I don't mean be that insecure guy trying to order people around to see who obeys. That's being a bossy dick, not leading. Everyone sees through that guy and wishes he would leave.

Leading is organizing people to help everyone get what they want but can't or won't get themselves. For example, if everyone wants to have a blast on Halloween then you take up the task of planning an event everyone will love, execute on it, and make sure everyone is included and has a great time.

When you are taking care of everyone, that's when everyone naturally has a reason to follow you, because you are working for their benefit. This is how to get people to defer to you as the leader. Don't think that the group has only one leader and you have to be that top guy all the time. A group has multiple leaders who come to the fore in different situations.

Define your niche where you can serve the most value and lead within that niche. One dude might be baller and loan out his giant house for house parties. If you're not that dude, but you're hilarious, just always bring the humor to parties. If you're the jacked guy everyone looks up to for fitness advice, help people in that area. Just be one of the leaders, contributing within your circle of competencies, and you're good.

Think of the group as one giant wingman made of multiple guys and girls that you do not fuck. You must sacrifice and help your wing and never do wrong by your wing. When you have done this well, your wing will endorse you to everyone, make you look good, and help you get laid.

When girls in the group bring their friends around, instead of being the thirsty guy that always hits on new girls, be the guy new girls always hit on. This happens when you are pre-selected as high value and don't immediately chase new girls, thus giving them reason and space to chase you.



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