Lesson of pook 5: trust your gut... and my anxiety

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September 4, 2019

Hi there,

I wanted to ask for advice/experience on the topic of the impossibility to discuss attraction and pook law 5. To the background, I'm not married but it's concerning a LTR and I didn#t want to open this in TRP, because I know I will get the oneitis shaming there and thought I come here for maybe some advice.

There is this girl I see regularly, She initiates contact a few times a week. When we are together she makes moves for body contact and stuff like cuddling and kissing, which leads to sex.

Since I am red pill aware, I get a bad feeling every time she doesn't do this. Before TRP/MRP I was way more relaxed about not having to have sex each team we have time together and therefore surely looked way lesser needy. Since I read the rational male and a lot of the other books, I overreact on every sign, where I could interpret something like a loss of attraction into.

I know it should be about me and not the woman I am with. The thought is there, but my stomach won't stop complaining. I tried meditation and excessive sport sessions (lifting, boxing, etc) which help for a short time, but it just is falling back to old habits.

Now, something like a circle started. Me being a needy bitch, knowing this is bad and feeling even worse. All "coolness" is gone at the moment.

Has anybody any recommendation how to push through this?

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Title Lesson of pook 5: trust your gut... and my anxiety
Author teabagabeartrap
Upvotes 8
Comments 17
Date 04 September 2019 10:16 AM UTC (1 year ago)
Subreddit askMRP
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/251916
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/askMRP/comments/cziwok/lesson_of_pook_5_trust_your_gut_and_my_anxiety/
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[–]tspitsatgp24 points25 points  (3 children) | Copy

The thing is if you are avoiding posting this to RP because you want to avoid oneitis shaming, then you already know the answer, but are not willing to accept it. The answer will be no different here.

You have zero OI and are a needy bitch. She will see that eventually.

Sorry bro, but hit the sidebar and do the work, there is no easy answer.

[–]teabagabeartrap[S] 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

Yep, thanks for answering. That is exactly how I feel.

There is no outcome independence, even I had it with other women before. I read a lot of sidebar. Did some plate spinning in the past and would say I'm red pill aware about a year now. But still the OI is just not there. Thanks for pointing this out especially. I will try the search to find maybe specific help for that.


[–]tspitsatgp8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

In my opinion OI isn’t something you can think into reality. It’s something that comes from having genuine options for your time and attention. Things that you enjoy doing. Some might suggest plates are a good way of ensuring you have some OI with your LTR, but I think that if you need plates to ensure you have OI then it’s a strong indicator that you are not your own mental point of origin (and if you are not your own mental point of origin, then you can never have true OI). As your own mental point of origin - you are who you are, do what you want and are happy - whether you are in a relationship or not. You are not swayed by the moods of an LTR, your family, a friend or your boss.

FYI > I would spend time reading the OYS threads. MRP for me is about the man, not the marriage, and there is gold to be mined by reading others experiences as they search for the same thing as you: themselves.

[–]teabagabeartrap[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Thanks for your insightful answer. This is the first answer that calms me down a little and I will follow your fyi

[–]SBIIIRed Fucking Commando17 points18 points  (1 child) | Copy

I am red pill aware

Being red pill aware means nothing.

I am aware of feminism. It doesn't make me a feminist.

I am aware of racism. It doesn't make me a racist.

I am aware of lots of things but I am only those things which I choose to be.

You are red pill aware.

Yet you choose to be a pussy.

[–]Praexology0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Almost makes it worse.

[–]Iammrp24 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

You get a bad feeling every time she touches you? Then why are you with her? She should be giving you good feelz and that's what she's trying to do.

Oh you mean you're a faggot pussy that doesn't think he deserves this girl? No? Then what the fuck is your problem? She initiated, you initiate, who cares? Have fun. D

You want to know how to stop being a needy bitch? Do the work. Hit the sidebar. Focus on you. You'll need it.

[–]Redpillbrigade173 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

You sound young. And that’s fine. What you need to do at this point instead of overthinking small stuff is go get laid with lots of women, and that should cure it. Find out who you want exactly to be with, what you enjoy the most in a woman, pursue that, and everything will flow beautifully and naturally. Focus on your mission not women.

[–]Onein1024th1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Focus on your mission

^this. be the center of your own universe

[–]Praexology3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

You're too worried about all her micro-communications. You're no longer having sex with her because YOU want to, you're doing it to confirm her attraction to you. ie you are doing this for her ie ie you are in her frame.

You look like this trying to figure out how to make her like you or keep touching your weiner or something.

[–]teabagabeartrap[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I would say 50:50, but yes and I hate it to admit. But yes you are right. I look like that, at least in my head.

I will follow the other advice made, to follow my mission more and strenghten my frame.

[–]GrayingGrad3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

Quit seeking validation from your mom

[–]IRunYourRiver-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

But his mom gives the best - "validation".

[–]savageinthebox6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

This all goes back to the one time he broke both his arms.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

> Has anybody any recommendation how to push through this?

Enjoy your life, stop thinking so damned much. Go spin plates, get rid of your oneitis.

You're biggest issue is she sometimes doesn't show you as much affection that you like and you think she may not like you? Stop looking for validation or you'll be back here in a few years with big boy problems.

[–]screechhaterRed Beret1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Read the book of Pook twice. The answer is in there.

If she is initiating constantly you are fine. You drive her hamster ape shit if you mind fuck this to death

There is a fuckton if info to digest, but reality is just quit mind fucking all of the idiosyncrasies of what you might see and go with the flow. Including if you feel like fucking, fuck her. If she says no, get over it. It’s a no for right then.

Lift. STFU and do the work. Get the results

[–]UnPussified-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Spin Plates.



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