I can't respect women. Am I a misogynist?

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September 4, 2019
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It has been said that in terms of finding a mate, women sit on the sidelines waiting to pick the winner. The winner is the man that put in the work and sacrifice to improve himself, do well financially, self-actualize, and generally earn a position of respect within society. The end result is he becomes attractive to women. And as any man knows, this is generally hard work and not easily won.

But the woman never really put in any work. Yes, she might have a career or work out and look pretty, but compared to what the man had to do to become worthy of her affection, there is no comparison. At the end of the day, she just chose the winner, and did little else to earn respect the way the man did.

In this sense, I just find it very difficult to respect women, since it appears they generally coast through life on easy mode, and are incapable of appreciating a mans struggles and sacrifices.

Since I can't respect women, am I a misogynist?


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Title I can't respect women. Am I a misogynist?
Author E46M54
Upvotes 59
Comments 39
Date 04 September 2019 10:36 PM UTC (1 year ago)
Subreddit askTRP
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/251985
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[–]Endorsed ContributorFereallyRed112 points113 points  (1 child) | Copy

Dogs eat their own shit.

Do I think that's disgusting? Hell yes.

But that's what dogs do.

Does that make me a misocaninist?

[–]Endorsed Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil28 points29 points  (1 child) | Copy

People telling you to respect women is proof that the default position is not to.

[–]McDrMuffinMan4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

That's a very interesting point I hadn't considered

[–]boy_named_su66 points67 points  (1 child) | Copy

The misos in misogyny means "to hate". Hating someone and not respecting someone is not the same thing

[–]TehJimmyy5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

μίσος

[–]javascript_dev17 points18 points  (0 children) | Copy

That is the benefit that goes along with being 2nd fiddle your whole life, much weaker and liable to die during childbirth.

In the current context many of us are misogynists. If these ideals normalize over time, and it seems more regular dudes are understanding intuitively that blue pills ideals don't work, we will just be "normal"

[–]acp_rdit29 points30 points  (2 children) | Copy

I save my respect for people who are competent, don't whine, and own their shit. Very few men make the cut, so far even fewer women have.

It has nothing to do with presence or absence of a cock, it has to do with a mindset. To quote one of Ayn Rand's main successors:

No one plays the "helplessness game" on a desert island; we can tell ourselves and others that we are helpless only if we expect someone to pick up the responsibility we have dropped.

I respect those who don't play the helplessness game. But they are few and far between.

[–]thebadguy897 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

They are rare. I know a 10/10 girl who could easily model or lock down a rich guy and never have to work again. Instead she chose to take out student loans, go to med school and study 24/7, basically wasting away her best years (she's 26 and soon her looks will start to fade). She never complains about anything except for how exhausted she is from studying, but it's never the bitching you hear from entitled women because she knows she chose her own path. No one forced her to.

I could be wrong but I think women who have strong relationships with their fathers usually tend to be decent, hard-working girls who don't sleep around.

[–]Huntbutt4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

So true.

The highest quality women always come from stable families, especially with a strong father figure.

One of the classic red flags is daddy issues for a reason

[–]1RainySeasonInPH23 points24 points  (0 children) | Copy

You're not supposed to respect women. Dumbass. Women are supposed to respect you.

Do you respect teenage children? No.

Women are subordinates. Subordinates respect their superiors. Your job is to be worthy of respect. Her job is to pick a man worth submitting to.

You have it reversed, you are the prize.

[–]Protocol_Apollo30 points31 points  (0 children) | Copy

Nah, respecting women these days is just bending over for them.

To serve their imperative, and not your own.

[–]blimp113 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

women work hard too. they spend 1-2 hrs a day getting ready to go out in public. they put on make up to look prettier than they really are; they wear heels to look taller than they really are.. its mostly a farce, but they still work

but seriously respect rolls up hill, love goes down hill.. you want to be up top or on the bottom? you arent supposed to respect women... to be clear respect what is respectable if she has a talent for something thats admirable and you are being sincere thats all good, but a hand out and an open mouth isnt something to respect

[–]SheriffBart427 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

In modern, western blue pill thought, this makes you, by their definition, a misogynist.

But who cares?

If you're just banging them, respecting them is irrelevant.

If you're making babies, you should probably respect her more than most woman. But that's relative, not absolute.

Women aren't here to appreciate a man's sacrifices. Only your momma will care.

You have correctly assessed reality and have taken the appropriate mindset. Congratulations.

[–]Sickem_roy4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

So you should respect someone because they’re a woman?

Nah, prove to me you do more than go out to clubs and drink.

[–]Pussyshack 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

No.

You’re a man who sees women for what they are. Playthings that were put on this earth to please us. Treat them accordingly.

[–]JosephBosa6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is why everything goes downhill in their post-wall phase. They are no longer seen as play things to most men, they literally lose their purpose.

And then become bitchy shit-testing cunts. The happy ones lock down an alpha. The ugly ones are fucked.

[–]Morpheus_TNTB2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Do you have no respect for children because they're not like successful men? You're comparing apples and oranges bruh and you should be enjoying the apples. She's not like you and that's okay.

Maybe you love trannies?

[–]30dirtyfingers2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

You usually have to do something that requires alot of/hard work to gain a mans respect. Im sure we (or most) of us respect Selena Williams for her tennis skills (ignoring that incident where she lost to a man and had a fit....im not very familiar with the incident any further than i mentioned). Even if she cant beat a man pro male at pro tennis, most of us dont hold her to that level for us to respect her. Most women dont do anything worth respecting by men's standards. Sleeping around for a woman is easy, sleeping around for a man is difficult, thats why players are praised and whores (for lack of a better term) are looked down upon. Likewise a guy who complains but does nothing is looked down upon and women who handle their own without the resources of a man are praised.

And no, that doesnt make you a misogynist, i would go as far as saying you view women as equals and expect them to earn your respect the same way you expect a guy to earn your respect.

Which (and this is off topic somewhat) is funny because TRP doesnt view women as being the same as men, so should we expect them to do the same things in order to earn our respect?

[–]i-am-the-prize2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

misogynist is the hating of women.

I think you're in the anger phase due to a perceived lack of them 'earning it' and having to work for it like you realize men must.

this is like someone being angry at someone else having a ferrari (due to trust fund)

1) who cares

2) worry about yourself

Look, they have a higher risk of choosing the wrong partner (ie: they carry around the mistake for 9 months and are the ones to usually raise it, or are the ones to actually get the abortion). Other than the modern day legal child support chains, we biologically/evolutionary have much less "skin in the game" so they are selective as it's been helpful to our species for them to be so. Science bitch, get over it.

I'm a white dude. When I was in college I remember thinking: "damn, good looking women don't have to do shit, they don't wait in keg lines, they don't pay for shit, they simply need to sit back and evaluate suitors". so i've kinda been there.

but now, i know I would never ever trade places with a woman. her one power, the Agency of the Pussy is all they have over you. And when you choose to be mission focused, and take away that power, and work/improve you, you will benefit you (and shocker, you will attract more women as a corollary).

So, get through this anger phase, don't be jealous of what you see as a power imbalance/work load imbalance (as a man, your fight never ends, you're never able to rest and not be the oak, get used to it; plenty of posts on here where EC's have had their balls cut off when at their weakest/showing weakness).

" women, ...are incapable of appreciating a mans struggles and sacrifices. "

the sooner you truly internalize this, the happier you will be.

1) you do IT (whatver your 'it' is) for you, never for her (covert contracts are a soul killer)

2) she will never ever appreciate you 'now' like you want to be appreciated, and when the work is done (later) "relational equity" is a fallacy, no resting on laurels (it's Janet Jackson's - what have you done for me lately/today, not how great a life have you built for me the past years). story after story in rollo and the sidebar about guys getting branch swung later in life when hitting a work/personal bump. get over it, it's in their nature, awalt.

3) find out what makes you happy, makes you proud and fucking slay it you fucker.

[–]fignootins1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah this has been the basis of human thinking since the dawn of mankind up until about 100 years ago.

[–]ShitShardsAnon1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Women do a whole lot of shit after marriage they can be respected for. That gorgeous women will ruin her beautiful body just to bring your seed into this world. Then she will clean up your kid's piss and shit as well as clean your piss off the toilet. And she might even be doing it when she has a job of her own, but even if not, how can you not respect a person who does that?

[–]Chumbardo1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

It depends on the woman. If you can't respect any woman, then you are a misogynist. There's a difference between a woman whose a doctor who saves lives vs a club slut who coasts by life on her looks. Respect should viewed on an individual level, not at a group level.

[–]Lateralanouncer1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yea and they will love you for it. It’s perfectly normal for an alpha male to loose respect for woman after he has done xyz to random sluts.

[–]RivenHalf1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

There is nothing to respect

[–]2INNASKILLZ2K181 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Dude, they do go through shit too. They're human. It's not like 'oh, I was born pretty so I literally never have.a problem'.

Trust me, we have a much better time than they do, once you stop the self-pity.

[–]dirsa11220 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I am incapable of of appreciating a mans "struggles and sacrifices", because it's idiocy. Do whatever the fuck you want, what's the point of living otherwise.

[–]1DubbleFUPAwitCheez0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Sounds like resentment. Work on it.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You’re not a misogynist, you’re just delusional. You believe in a model of morality that doesn’t exist, never existed, and probably won’t ever exist.

[–]TRP VanguardWhisper0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Who cares?

[–]leon320 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Why you even care?

[–]red_matrix0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Women don’t wait on the sidelines, they wait at the finish line.

[–]HegelianDude0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

respect must be earned, you shouldn't respect all man either.

[–]shark30k0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Think about it this way : As species it it's women's responsibility to select highest, strongest, fittest male and breed with him. They are the ones making sure we don't breed losers. They force us to be better and only the best of us get laid (at least that is the main aim I believe) so the offspring is strong/resourceful/powerful. Don't hate on them just accept them as they naturally are and keep working on yourself.

[–]sixseven890 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

you can (and should) respect them as a human being but you don't have to respect them as a person

[–]MeansToABenz0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

In terms of the definition of a misogynist all men who are red are more then likely classified as one.

[–]SemperPrimus0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

At least you have a chance to make yourself attractive. If you are an attractive female you are essentially the genetic prize for competitive males. But what if you're an unattractive female? well then you are fucked... well not literally

[–]Nighthawkdragon8-4 points-3 points  (2 children) | Copy

Yeah you are tbh. I respect the hell out of women, they have way more social pressure on them and pressure to get their life together and find a man before they age.

[–]ezzinekamel0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

White knight Alert! Call 911.

[–]Nighthawkdragon81 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I also pull tho.



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