What do you guys make of this situation?

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September 2, 2019

Hey guys, 

Going through a serious situation and could use some feedback, advice and guidance from the group. 

So I will do my best to be a man that says a lot in few words. 

Me - 6’0, 200 lbs and under 15% BF, lifts and high T levels. Six figs income. losing some hair… All in all decent looking dude and can spit game.

Ive been with my wife for 8 years and married for 7. She just turned 30 and im about to turn 38. We are both pretty fit and have a nice life going for us in SoCal. No kids as well.

I worked hard to guide her from a sushi restaurant into medical device sales and she just scored her dream job like 6 months ago. 

Ever since then she has been treating me like I've lost value, I think its because she has the chance to make my kind of money (I have always made 2 or 3 times her income), maybe it also has something to do with her hitting 30 as well. She has been upset about this and kinda depressed. 

So she went on a business trip which was more like a party for her company in Cancun and wound up cheating on me with some guy that (not being a bitch, he had strong game) seduced her. This guy is married with 3 kids and try's to fuck only married chicks any chance he can. He has done this to other chicks at the company. Kinda like a predator. 

So I don't have solid factual info, but I got her to admit that he slept in her room one night and they just made out, so she says, but WTF, who would believe that?!?! So lets chalk it up as he banged her, although I don't have solid proof, thats how I view it… 

I gave her a chance to make it up to me and the first month was great. After that it faded into what I read as her not being sure she wanted to be with me. She has mentioned things like “I spent my 20’s with you”, and I get the impression that she was going to try to trade up on me. Maybe I'm wrong, but it seemed as if she got worse and maybe she even felt like she got away with cheating, so she could walk all over me. All I know is her attitude/treatment was below the standard as to what I'm willing to accept as a man. 

So when she was on a more serious business trip I left her and moved to another state (Colorado has wayyy better divorce laws than California). I just took a bit of cash and left everything outside of my personal shit. 

She has been extremely depressed and has lost a lot of weight. It's taken a hard toll on her and I feel she is actually really sorry, but from losing me or her provider? Both?

So here I am in a new city, and I have gotten on all of the dating apps, and geez! Dating is tons different from 8 years ago. Its sooo fucking easy to get laid. Ive banged 7-8 chicks so far, but have come to realize that these aren't quality women, although the chicks have been between 6-8ish looks wise, but they are on there for a reason. they all seem to have different problems. I just find this super unfailing. Most likely just the wrong women. Before her, I used to love the thrill of the hunt and to rack up numbers but maybe I'm just more mature now? Not sure…. Please advise.

So I had to go back to LA for some business and extended the trip to spend some time with her and I have to admit, I really miss my old life with her and my dog. My old place is super fucking beautiful too. She is begging me to come back. I can tell she's extremely sorry. Sex was great too. 

im really confused on what to do here. Gut says I need to man up and find a new one as painful as it is. 

I have a few ideas on how to proceed.

  1. Get a divorce and stick it out with her, if she will accept these terms ( she swears she will do anything to stick around)
  2. Get the divorce and move the fuck on.
  3. Be a cuck and just go back cause she seems sorry enough. 
  4. What else is a solution? All ears… 

Some Key points to mention:

  1. I feel that due to being on the hook financially has held me back from realizing my full potential business wise, but who knows what the future holds, she may make my kind of money in the future. Am I being a dick here? This is a big thing for me emotionally. Ive seen guys get ruined in marriages. Just doesn't make sense to me. Women have no incentive to act right unless they make more money. I think this is the biggest issue with marriage.  
  2. She was actually a great wife. Cooks and takes good care of me. Never in a million years would I think of her as un-loyal before this situation. She's a good looking woman too. Took me a long time to find her and she wont be easy to replace. 
  3. I actually like being married outside of what can happen financially in divorce.

Sorry if this is coming out as a rant or incoherent. Just trying to make sense out of all of this. 

I will edit as I generate new thoughts.

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Title What do you guys make of this situation?
Author gulpinsculpin
Upvotes 23
Comments 100
Date 02 September 2019 10:31 PM UTC (1 year ago)
Subreddit askMRP
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/252610
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/askMRP/comments/cyw511/what_do_you_guys_make_of_this_situation/
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[–][deleted] 50 points51 points  (15 children) | Copy

You’re all over the place in this long ass post. We can’t answer what you want but consider this:

if a woman doesn’t respect you enough to keep another guys dick out of her, why would you continue to be with her? What does that say about you as a man and your boundaries? If cheating isn't a boundary than what is?

Get the divorce, start clean in Colorado. No kids so this is straightforward.

[–]johneyapocalypseThe one that says "Bad Motherfucker"14 points15 points  (3 children) | Copy

Maybe he tripped and his pants fell off and his dick fell in her? Might not even be her fault. Besides she's a quality girl and she's really sorry. Plus Mexico.

[–]BobbyPeruRed Beret5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

It feels like a troll post, confirmed by OP not replying

[–]gulpinsculpin-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

I was just busy, but will get to each post.

[–]reddit-guy610 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Bet it wasn't the first time either.

[–]helaughsinhidden4 points5 points  (8 children) | Copy

No kids so this is straightforward.

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[–]hack3geRed Beret1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Should just delete all responses to OP and leave this and lock the thread.

[–]red-iron-man0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy

So you're saying he should give her another chance? lol

[–]helaughsinhidden0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

Normally, I would advocate to stay together more than nearly anyone in here, but WHY?

[–]red-iron-man0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

I actually think OP is not the Mr. Perfect he says he is.

I think based on his post he's a bit flaky and has confidence issues. It didn't take much of a chad to entice his unicorn. Which means she was starving for attention, bored or both.

Even a lame chad who's fun and sprinkled with confidence is powerful to a unicorn starving for attention.

[–]hack3geRed Beret1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

It’s obvious that he’s burying the lead but it doesn’t matter - the only response is next if she admitted she spent the night in another mans hotel room. There is 0% chance he didn’t fuck her all night long and twice in the morning. She probably had his cum dripping down her leg during her work presentation the next day.

[–]johneyapocalypseThe one that says "Bad Motherfucker"0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

.01% chance that he was drinking mescal and then tripped and fell in her vagina - inadvertently - and was kidnapped and beheaded by the cartel.

Mescal is the shit.

[–]hack3geRed Beret0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

That worm can do some seriously messed up shit - I hadn’t considered that in my prediction of 0% I stand corrected.

[–]ShortGame640 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This reminds me of listening to Loveline growing up. A dude would call in with a 5-minute sob story and then ask for advice.

First question Adam and Dr Drew always asked was "do you guys have kids?"

If the answer was yes, it was "jeez, this is going to be tough, let's talk about it..."


[–]JudgeDoom693 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Get the divorce, start clean in Colorado

u/gulpinsculpin you'll never be able to sleep with your soon-to-be-ex wife again without wondering whom else has she has been with. The nice thing is you'r entering the peak of your SMV (if you put the work in) and she's going to hit the proverbial Wall very soon.

After you've been in CO for 90 days you can file there. No child support and no spousal maintenance and 50/50 division of assets. You walk away clean.

And I'd take Colorado over California any day.

[–]gulpinsculpin1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Exactly why I moved here. The quickest and cleanest place to get a divorce.

[–]RedPill-BlackLotusRed Beret29 points30 points  (2 children) | Copy

Wholey shit man.... what the fuck. Why would you want her back NOW?

When she cheated, how much of a fag were you? Did you have it comming?

All I read is her branch swing failed. As if you try and put any culpability on that other guy. I think your sniffing glue on that one. Hes not the problem.

You have already moved away and started railing tinderellas. If I was in your situation, I would never go back.

Here, check out rians videos on cheating wives. See if you still feel the same way.

Red pill coffee: on cheating wives


Operation scorched earth

You do you man.

[–]gulpinsculpin1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

watched both of those vids, thanks for the feedback.

[–]z2a1-92 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy


[–]MrChad_ThundercockBig Red Machine24 points25 points  (0 children) | Copy

“She was actually a great wife”

Except the part when she banged Chad tm in Cancun.


“I will edit as I generate new thoughts”

Please don’t.

[–]UnPussified16 points17 points  (6 children) | Copy

GTFO, Eject.

She tasted a better-than-you life, immersed in high-value man universe, meets single Doctors & wealthy sales Chads, gets all kinds of attention, gets a taste of the medical device party lifestyle & you're think she'll somehow magically revert?

Try prying a rock out of a crackhead's pipe & see how that goes.

A lifetime of misery ahead if you take her back bc she'll NEVER respect you if you did.

She already demonstrated did NOT want to put you first. She only put up with you because her public image might be tarnished by a divorce.

She wants the crack and for you to pay the bills too.

That's all.

NEXT the cvnt.

You're lucky you found out now.

[–]gulpinsculpin-2 points-1 points  (5 children) | Copy

Good post. Lots to think about.

[–]tspitsatgp7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

You haven’t really got a lot to think about mate. Just be thankful you don’t have kids with her and move on. The single worst thing you could do now is get her pregnant. You will regret that all your life.

[–]marv86kw1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

That's what did trying to do, get him roped in with a kid.

Her sorries and sexual advances are for her benefit. She trying to get knocked up so you get locked in.

[–]UnPussified1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

What's left to think about?

When my brother caught his wife with another man, he contemplated taking her back until our Dad (born in 1934) called it the way it has ALWAYS been:

"Can't EVER trust a Women who can't keep her panties on."

Fidelity is the last bastion.

The FINAL line in the sand, Women have NOTHING left to offer a Man after that because they've irrevocably transmuted themselves into a WHORE. Women will KEEP pushing past the lines we fail to defend, it's in their nature. She's literally begging you to teach her a lesson and if you don't, she'll teach you a bigger lesson. Say hello to raising & paying for SOME OTHER GUY'S KIDS.

You're being served the mother of all shit tests.

You think infidelity is a painful to swallow?

Try divorce court with kids! B.T.D.T. & got the "I lost $500k in Divorce Court" T-Shirt, my ass still hurts & I now fart silently from the corn-hole reaming I took 13 years ago.

If you still have doubts? The stories I heard AFTER my own divorce shocked me- You're only seeing a tip of the iceberg.

You've received more than your share of warnings from lots of guys who also ignored the signs.

But, go ahead & throw caution to the wind, proceed at your own peril.

P.S. I'm in SoCal too. HMU & I'll buy you a beer & throw a bucket of ice water in your face if you still need convincing.

[–]gulpinsculpin0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah man, good advice. I know what I need to do. Fuck getting a divorce in California, so I carefully planned my escape to colorado where its quicker and less painful to get it all done. I lived in Newport Beach and have heard all of the horror stories from the older crowd. Marriage is completely fucked these days. I know chicks there that are just looking to be saved financially. Pretty fucked if you ask me...Id have a beer with you, but got back Sunday. If im ever back I will HUP. Do you have a twitter with the same handle?

[–]dilberryhoundog8 points9 points  (6 children) | Copy

2 ways to get cucked.

  1. You have lower value vs the fucker.
  2. You have higher value than the fucker, but he shows your wife a lot more attention.

It’s not really about value. It’s about attention.

In case 1, you might be giving many hours of attention per week. But if chad with the very high SMV comes along. His half an hour attention over “coffee” will be worth more to her, than your many hours over many weeks.

In case 2, even tho you’re high value, you don’t make it “worth” anything. Because of the fuckall attention she gets from you. While, Billy Beta at work, who can sprinkle some alpha, puts her on a pedestal and invests lots of time. She will eventually find enough value in his attention, for her biology to kick in.

I’d say you are case 2, and fucker had been building that pedestal for her from day one.

To prevent this you can do one of two things. Show her more attention... Or don’t allow potential fuckers access to her, to give her attention.

If you can’t do either of these (or both) from strongly within your frame, then it will probably happen again.

Side note: She’s probably “into you” again because the drama of the situation is causing you to “give her attention”. If you go back and the drama dies down, nothing will have changed with your wife unless you majorly change how her relationship resource (attention) is handled.

[–]gulpinsculpin1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Its the attention for sure. She keeps saying im never her priority. She's not, its my purpose. You are spot on about him though, but hes just fucking around. Its easy to do on a fling, but not maintain...

Thanks for the advice. Noted for sure.

[–]Balls_Wellington_2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

If she isn't your priority, what are you even caught up on? Drop her ass, focus on your priorities.

What is she bringing into your life right now? Money? At best you are even, it seems. Sex? You've already seen you can get that elsewhere. If the quality of sex is the issue, you'll be able to match it eventually. Company? Support? Housekeeping?

Other than your emotional sunk cost, what is she giving you that you can't replace with dividends?

Oh, and now you know you can't trust her. You'll pull your hair out every time she travels, and she'll probably try this shit again down the line.

[–]RedKepler-2 points-1 points  (2 children) | Copy

Actually, no.2 sounds exactly what happened with me somewhat 3 weeks ago.

And if thats the case, it is a fucking pathetic reason to leave someone, especially if it is out of their control.

[–]dilberryhoundog2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Nope, it's a perfectly reasonable thing to do. Infact she has to RESIST biological urges not to do it.

Women don't give a fuck about your "value", they want your attention. Can you do maths? here is the equation.

let "A" be your Attention (time and type).

let "B" be your SMV (money, strength, independence, OI, attractiveness etc).

let "C" be a Man's relationship value to a Woman.

A + B = C

Was the other mans "C" value more than yours?

[–]RedKepler0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Quite possibly looking at it that way. I could try rationalise/fight my scenario further.

[–]SBIIIRed Fucking Commando25 points26 points  (6 children) | Copy

You said you would do your best to be a man that says a lot in few words.

You failed.

[–]johneyapocalypseThe one that says "Bad Motherfucker"15 points16 points  (4 children) | Copy

Short version: "It's okay for my wife to fuck other men, 'cuz she's a 'quality girl' unlike those tinder whores - and the house is really nice - and she said she's sorry - besides, there's weird stuff in the water in mexico."

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

there's weird stuff in the water in mexico."

I accidentally brushed my teeth once with tap water in Mexico. Was sick for four days. It was horrible. Mexico water is some nasty shit.

[–]KatanaRunner1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

you're lucky you came out alive

[–]Tbonesupreme1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy


[–]gulpinsculpin0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

No chance. Just looking for feedback.

[–]marv86kw14 points15 points  (2 children) | Copy

You posted this on r/marriedredpill and removed the post. Like I said..

She's not sorry about what she did, she's sorry she got caught.

Firstly, you talk too much. Drop that bitch. The fact that your #1 option is divorce and stay with her just shows how sick your mind is. You need help: sidebar.

Fucking faggot.

[–]SorcererKingMod / Red Beret2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

To be fair to Cuckminster Fuller here (OP), the mods removed his post from MRP.

[–]marv86kw1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Not surprised. Cheers.

[–]jacksarmy12 points13 points  (11 children) | Copy

Tell the other guy's wife for the lols

[–]gulpinsculpin3 points4 points  (7 children) | Copy

I have his address and facebook. I totally could, but eh, what for... dude probably did me a favor in the long run.

[–]Two_kids_in_a_coat7 points8 points  (4 children) | Copy

What do you mean “what for?” You fucking burn that motherfucker back.

[–]escapethesolarsystem2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

Yep, I would burn that shitbag's life down.

[–]itiswr1ttenRed Beret0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy


This is just more pedestalizing. When you're done with a bitch for real, these thoughts never enter your mind.

The other guy did OP a favor

[–]Two_kids_in_a_coat1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Idk. Reading the 48 rules of power you are supposed to crush your enemies. This man showed him disrespect in the highest degree. Even if his slut wife said no, he still attempted to take from him. Yes he should toss her to the curb, but no man can do that to me and expect to live unscathed.

[–]escapethesolarsystem0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It's not about the girl, it's about the guy. Men need to have fucking boundaries too, it takes two to tango. If a man fucks with another man's wife it's disrespectful to the other man and some punishment needs to be met out. If this basic level of personal responsibility / consequences doesn't exist you don't have a civilization, you have a bunch of barbarians in slightly more advanced caves.

[–]redwall921 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

dude probably did me a favor in the long run

Do you believe this?

If so, then your actions are blatantly clear.

Have him come over to your beautiful SoCal house and bang your wife while you watch with your dog.

[–]SorcererKingMod / Red Beret6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

The favor was showing him AWALT and how much loyalty his wife had. OI, go look it up.

[–]An_Actual_Politician1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Why wouldn't he. Seriously. Plus a sucker punch or two.

[–]gulpinsculpin1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

eh, let me run into him.... maybe...

[–]BarracudaRP0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah, because the OTHER guy is totally the problem here /s

[–]persuacussion7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

Divorce her and keep the dog.

[–]RStonePT13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy

Dear diary, today I did things for vague reasons, I'ma ask the internet to validate it

The end

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy

What arent you telling us faggot? Your wife just randomly fucks Chad out of no where? How are you planning to unfuck yourself so this doesn't happen again. Also you are debating being a cuck? Have you read nothing? For fuck sakes man. Scorched earth and move on. You weak faggot.

[–]Rogue684861 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

^ this

[–]markpf736 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

Did you ever see a Stephen king movie called the langoliers? It was a bit of a piece of shit but the take away applies to you:

You can’t go back to the past. The past may physically be there but it’s dead. It’s lifeless. And while you’re languishing in the past it will literally eat you alive. Stay in the present, Colorado, and make your future. Quit being a sad sack of shit about this one.

[–]gulpinsculpin1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Thanks man. You're spot on, although I miss my old life, I need to delete and make space for a new life.

[–]BobbyPeruRed Beret6 points7 points  (4 children) | Copy

but it seemed as if she got worse and maybe she even felt like she got away with cheating, so she could walk all over me.

This is sidebar 101. Yes, she lost all respect for her cuck husband who stayed with her after cheating.

It’s obvious that you have read very little sidebar or for some reason didn’t absorb it. Get going on that first

You come on here saying your lifts are good with no numbers and how you “spit” game, whatever the fuck that means. You basically didn’t even have the courage to leave your wife by telling her and snuck out like a bitch while she was on a trip.

Now, you are thinking about taking her back , which would make you beyond a cuck even.

I’m not even sure what your question is, but that’s my take on your situation

[–]gulpinsculpin0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Say what you want, but... I agree with the way I left actually.

[–]BobbyPeruRed Beret1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Say what you want, but... I agree with the way I left actually.

Ok, I’ll bite. I’m curious as to your reasoning

[–]gulpinsculpin1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

She would have just screamed and moaned about the whole thing and embarrassed us in front of the neighbors. Just cleaner this way.

[–]BobbyPeruRed Beret4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

The fact that you care what neighbors think when you are moving out of the neighborhood says volumes about your frame. A man doesn’t care if she embarrasses herself in front of the neighbors. If you had frame you’d STFU and not GAF if she acts that way. This is the way a huh schooler would handle a breakup. I’m sure you’re not going to want to see that hard truth, but there it is....

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

You have oneitis so bad that you won't divorce a woman who cheated on you.

I'm not sure what the other 14 paragraphs are for here. It's pretty clear what needs to happen.

[–]gulpinsculpin0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy


[–]KoolAidMan79802 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Come on brother. Put all the redpill theory, lifting, STFU, and all the other cliches aside for a second and look at your situation. You were married and your wife went out and fucked another guy. Whether it was because she turned 30 or you ran the ship aground or whatever the fuck it was, IT DOES NOT MATTER. If you dont have the most basic level of respect for yourself to not choose to be with someone that fucks other guys then just go ahead and throw the weights out and quit the redpill subs right now because there is no hope for you.

Youve run off to Colorado like a sad little boy unable or unwilling to do what needs to be done—filing for divorce. Then you have courage to write here saying other than fucking other guys shes a really good wife?!? Like wtf dude. When you read the sidebar and it talks about being a man is hard, this is the situations the writers are talking about. Is divorce going to be unpleasant? Fuck yeah it will. But how unpleasant do you think it will be when youre tasting another mans cock when kissing your cheating wife??

Do what needs to be done. You said youre in good shape and have a good career. Then you have a great base to build off of. Why waste it on a cheater? And just to close, when you wrote it was hard to find someone good like your wife it makes me question your vetting process.

[–]Redpillbrigade173 points4 points  (5 children) | Copy

  1. You have oneitis. Pretty acute case.

  2. You must protect yourself financially as soon as possible. Why not use this opportunity to get the divorce, protect assets and income for equitable distribution, and continue to date her if you want. Even monogamously if you want. Wink wink.

  3. All these glimpses, and realizations are your manhood trying to kick you in the nuts and the ass to realize what the fuck is going on. All those touchy-feely thoughts you get around how you enjoy being married, how she’s so special, lovey-dovey: read number 1 above.

And as far as did she cheat, did she not cheat, will she cheat, will she not cheat, who cares. The last time you spent on worrying about any of this, the better. Like I said above protect yourself financially, and then get laid with whoever you want, including her.

[–]gulpinsculpin0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

Best advice. I think they way to go is to get the divorce and let her see if she can win me back (not marriage again) over other chicks.

[–]Redpillbrigade176 points7 points  (3 children) | Copy

I can tell you from personal experience having been divorced for three years now, after a marriage of about eight years: Life after divorce is very good. And the freedom is invaluable. You are only 38. You can get married again at 48, and again at fucking 58 if you want. Stay in shape, do all the things we talk about here, and the world is your oyster.

[–]gulpinsculpin-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy

Thanks, bro.. Best advice here so far.

[–]UnPussified1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Pro Divorce Tip:

Watched my brother dangle a carrot in front of his ex, "We must end the past, before beginning anew".

She wanted to work it out.

She sucked and banged & sucked him raw like he was the last man alive for the 6 month waiting period, trying to earn him back.

The plan worked. He stuck to his guns and her guilt caused her to not fight through the divorce, for a chance to somehow begin again.

Play your cards right & keep it on the DL (reputation reigns supreme with Women) and you might come out OK.

[–]gulpinsculpin0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I think once I file, I will turn her into a plate and see how it goes... I might just say fuck it and eject her fully too though.

[–]JameisBong3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

You are probably trolling,but if you aren't please get your divorce and move on. If she didn't follow you to Colorado,she absolutely doesn't give a shit about you.

[–]Two_kids_in_a_coat3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Remember how she treated you like shit until you left? She’s gonna treat you like that again once she’s convinced you’re back for good. (Been there, done that). If you are cool with that then fine. (And she will cheat again). If not then continue your path. This is your path to take. People are gonna treat you exactly how you allow them to treat you.

Did you tell his wife yet? How did she react? If someone disrespects and fucks with you like that you burn his life down to the ground.

[–]vplatt2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

Well, I'm not going to tell you what to do here, but I'm guessing she's starting to feel the approaching wall, whether she is aware of it consciously or not. The urge to have kids is pretty strong and I would think she could be acting out because of that. You said it yourself: there aren't kids in this relationship.

Second point: There aren't kids in this relationship. Maybe it's time to ensure a more solid legacy and split. If she wants to be her own man in the relationship, then she doesn't need you. It may not leave her any happier in the end, but she has to choose that path. I mean, it sounds like her SMV is on par with yours or better simply because of age, she's an earner, AND she "She was actually a great wife. Cooks and takes good care of me.". She sounds awesome, but are you owning your shit here or are you letting her carry too much of the water? Only you know for sure. The lack of children thing may only be a tipping point.

One thing I do know for sure: You'll want to be confident in the chosen road ahead before there are children. The emotional and financial impacts with kids are much more traumatic than without.

You might also want to consider marriage counseling with her if you're really that torn about it.

[–]SorcererKingMod / Red Beret2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

She sounds awesome

Especially when she's moaning as Lumberg fucks her.

[–]gulpinsculpin-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

I do own my shit and hers. She's nothing without me taking her higher and higher. Not to brag, as ive learned lots about leadership and she has done all of the actual work.

She is adamant on not having kids. She told me this before I married her. I told her recently that I might want kids and she said its probably not for her...

totoall agree on being confident in the road ahead.

[–]UnPussified2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

"She told me this before I married her"

Did she also tell you (or infer) she'd be faithful?

Look, at age ~29+ female sex-drive automatically switches on the internal, natural steroids & coke.

The timing of this is no accident.

Why? Biology.

It's "My body must pop out KIDS to feel like it has purpose & meaning!"

If its not that, then it's "release the hounds!", hyper sex-drive working double-time to somehow AVOID biology. Which really means, she can't help but actively look for & daydream about Alpha seeds, "just for fun".

You can't cheat Mother Nature.

[–]red-sfpplusHard Core Red2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

he slept in her room one night and they just made out

You are a cuck.

Why the fuck are we discussing this?

No kids, divorce. Move on.

Or go read TheFamilyAphlas posts. He got cheated on and stayed with his cheating wife as well.

[–]gameoflibidos2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy



[–]bowhunter8572 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Did you seriously call him a predator? Dude get the fuck out with that weak shit. He isn’t preying on grown ass women by fucking them. Your marriage contract is between you and your wife not him.

[–]hack3geRed Beret5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Lol right she seems sorry.....

I mean if you are the type of guy who can only get a woman who likes to take other guys cocks in her ass, pussy and mouth and then screams in ecstasy as he cums in her pussy raw dog then I guess who am I to judge.

Fucking faggot....

[–]0io-Tsundere5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

If you're OK with being in an open relationship then just do that. You've already banged a bunch of hotties in Colorado. You know what's out there. Whether you want to stay married now is just a legal or financial decision. Since you've fucked her after you caught her cheating apparently you don't find her physically disgusting now. I'd just keep her in the rotation as long as you feel like having her around.

The reality is these days that any new "replacement" you find is going to have had sex with a bunch of other guys and is probably just as likely to do the same thing.

If she's adding value in your life and making you happy keep her around. If she's annoying you and making you miserable cut her loose.

Edit: Since you've discovered she's a "bad girl" now you should up the kink considerably, go for threesomes with other women, etc. She'll probably be in to it, and even if not it will be fun for you. Sounds like she got bored and jumped on an opportunity.

[–]IRunYourRiver1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Bad news: Your post. Good news: You found this site somehow. Now your journey begins.

[–]escapethesolarsystem1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

No kids so this is so simple. Divorce, move on.

Took me a long time to find her and she wont be easy to replace. 

There's always someone better. Don't let this nonsense prevent you from doing the right thing. You think you are high value / alpha but you also think you can't find someone better? That doesn't compute. Stop being sentimental and low confidence (I know, easier to say than do, but you have to do it) and do what needs to be done. Once a woman cheats, you burn her, no exceptions.

Generally, your biggest mistake was helping her with her career. Women don't need a career, they need a family. A career is just a place for her to find other dicks to ride, especially especially (I said it twice intentionally) in the west.

Also, if you are really serious about being married, move out of the United States to a more traditional country. The odds for a successful marriage are much higher and the divorce laws won't fuck you up if anything happens. Anyways, most American women aren't marriage material - too entitled, too high notch count, too selfish.

[–]AtlasCuckd1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Someone commented about your EX-WIFE tasting a better life. I think she simply tasted better (read Alpha) cum

Bro, let it go. Let HER go. All relationships take time to get over, that doesn't mean you need to revert back into it.

Go through with the divorce. She's only feeling remorseful because she fucked up HER situation; there's no remorse specifically for you here. Enjoy the peak of manhood. Get on your feet and kill it out there, we know you can. Question is, will you recognize your value and pull the trigger?

[–]Praexology1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Give yourself some distance from your poor emotional decision making state.

Plan as if you are getting separated, continue progressing towards YOUR goals. Not hers. Hers are irrelevant. Demote her to plate. A plate that you don't care if she breaks or not.

Choose a specific amount of time like 6 months or something. You're welcome to reevaluate then.(until then, don't consider changing your decision of separating.) Either she is still there and you can choose whether you want to pursue her or not, or she won't be there at which point your decision is pretty simple. If she's worth taking back she'll still be there, in the mean time grow a spine.

[–]Vypered3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Not sure…. Please advise.

You shouldn't care what we think. What do YOU want for your life ahead?

She is begging me to come back. I can tell she's extremely sorry. Sex was great too. 

If she's genuinely repentant, and if YOU still want her - take her back. Being a MGTOW means you get decide whatever you like. If it were I, and I really wanted my wife back, I'd take her back with some very clear BOUNDARIES about her future interactions, and the understanding she'll be a very SUBMISSIVE wife (i.e. do whatever I want). Whilst daytime interactions I'd maintain frame and the feelz (standard RP stuff). At night (every night) I'd caveman her. She's always been hesitant to try anal? Now's your chance. Want her to deepthroat you? Now's her time to practice and learn. Then if it works out, it works out. If not, you've had some fun, just move on.

Again - do whatever YOU want to do.

...But keep a bunch of evidence of the affair, incase things ever turn nasty. Or ask her to sign a post-nuptial agreement, if that's a thing in your state.

[–]gulpinsculpin-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Rock on, bro. good advice for sure.

[–]1kdawg10 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Leave....no kids, no baggage, just leave.....

[–]Dialerstring0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Scorch earth.

[–]RoccoPinkman0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Wound up cheating on me with some guy that seduced her


I feel bad for her being seduced like that, is she ok now?

[–]RicoDunne0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Lots of RP lessons for you: 1) Women don't care what you have done for them... guided her from sushi bitch to a higher paying job. Hypergamy doesn't care what you did for her

2) Women who take a man for granted will want to jump onto the CC again - hypergamy doesn't care about you

3) Chicks test out a branch-swing but sometimes miss - she wants another chance to do better than your beta ass. Hypergamy doesn't care what you did for her or if you "wuve" her or not.

4) A woman can accidentally fall on a dick and still blame you for it - hypergamy has no honor or respect for weak men.

You have no kids with her, you got your stuff you wanted of the house - just keep moving on.

You have dated other women with issues that don't concern you, but are spending this post and our time to lament and justify overlooking the issues of the one woman that has used you and disrespected you. You are still in her frame dude.

Sure once you were together briefly the sex was good, but that's the lure to keep her beta fool hooked. Sure she's a good cook and took care of you. I take care of my dog too, because she benefits me as a watch dog and companion, but she is just an animal.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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