I’m a 23 year old man, for the record.
The last year, I have been having a crisis in faith. Faith in myself, in God, in other people and in love. I’m pretty sure I was just being neurotic, but the woman I was in love with dumped me and it killed me. I didn’t speak to a soul for a month. I would break down in work randomly and I couldn’t trust the intentions of other women.
The reason why is that it opened my eyes to human nature, both male and female. And it fucking hurts. I was always enraptured by the higher ideas like true love and your twin flame, but ever since, all I’ve seen myself as to these women is a walking piggy bank. It completely jaded me to the point where i would break the hearts of women who didn’t deserve it. I thought they only wanted me for my money and status.
But now that the venom of it has subsided, replaced with a deep depression, I’m sorta just looking for answers, now. And I guess this is my next destination to try to make sense of this puzzle.
There’s two types of relationships I can imagine: true equality, and the captain/first mate dichotomy.
I wanted the true equal, like Bonnie and Clyde. Where we comfort each other no matter how bad it gets (barring obvious extremes). Where we would show each other our deepest, ugliest traumas and imperfections, but still clutch onto each other, by the simple virtue of being a mortal soul. It makes me feel comfortable.
Then there’s the Captain/First mate dychotomy that this sub has very well articulated. This is where I have my doubts, even if it’s the natural order of things, because the fact that I’m only loved if I have money and a good job calls into question whether it’s really love at all.
I think that statement above is what matters most.
Further, if we were to imagine a family as a ship, taking the wheel and being that captain, that’s fucking scary! But if I can find a way to believe that it’s real love, then if that’s my destiny, I’ll take that wheel and be the head of that ship. I always compared it to Bambi growing up to be the prince, but that’s for another post.
So, is it real love?
[–]PPD-AngelIncel Ban Count: 17[M] [score hidden] stickied comment (0 children) | Copy Link
No link-dropping. Removed.
[–]happycheese86No Pill5 points6 points7 points (2 children) | Copy Link
Love is cleaning up someone's spilled bong for the 14th time even though I told you not to put it there, Doug.
[–]Texastentialismshe's got a tattoo and two pet snakes3 points4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Classic Doug.
[–]darudeboysandstormSoup on the stove, bread rising, apple pie-1 points0 points1 point (0 children) | Copy Link
🤙🤙🤙
[–]philomexaSPITE ALONE HOLDS ME ALOFT4 points5 points6 points (8 children) | Copy Link
Love is; putting up with a lot of bullshit (and vice versa) because he consistently delivers orgasms and life is more interesting with him than without him.
[–]geyges🐇0 points1 point2 points (7 children) | Copy Link
So weird that its the first thing that comes to your mind. It's not that he's nice or takes care of you, its that he satisfactorily performs the role of a dildo.
[–]philomexaSPITE ALONE HOLDS ME ALOFT1 point2 points3 points (2 children) | Copy Link
Why else would I have a man around? Nice is base line human interaction, and I'm not even sure what taking care of me would entail, I guess he makes sure I'm fed and sufficiently socialized?
[–]geyges🐇0 points1 point2 points (1 child) | Copy Link
You can be polite and civil without being nice or kind or affectionate.
Well also walks you, and cleans up your litterbox.
[–]philomexaSPITE ALONE HOLDS ME ALOFT1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
The struggle is real.
[–]GridReXXit be like that1 point2 points3 points (3 children) | Copy Link
For her “love” is also “romantically being in love”
And part of remaining “in love for a lot of ppl” is sexual compatibility.
That said plenty of women “love” their husbands, but aren’t “in love” with their husbands. And men don’t like that. So don’t you think she’s right to include sexual satisfaction in her definition?
[–]geyges🐇0 points1 point2 points (2 children) | Copy Link
I don't know why you're putting words in her mouth, but to answer your question
If she said: "He's such a great guy, I enjoy being with him, he's kind, gentle, empathetic, good looking, sex is very good, and he works hard". I wouldn't say shit.
But her definition of love is putting up with bullshit for the sake of orgasms and life being interesting.
I'm sorry that's not love. That's equivalent to ordering dildo off amazon and getting butt-plug as a gift. You have to put up with Amazon's bullshit, but you get orgasms, and your life is more interesting.
Intimate relations with someone you love are way more than orgasms.
[–]GridReXXit be like that0 points1 point2 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Yeah. You are completely misinterpreting what she meant. And she’s already explained what she meant and here you are still pretending what she meant is whatever strawman you’re going on about. Weird flex.
[–]geyges🐇0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Maybe. I can't read people's minds. I don't know what they mean. I can only go off what they write.
If you think she's "in love" or whatever and orgasms is just a part of it, then I can't really disagree. I'm just saying its really weird that orgasms is literally the first positive thing she mentions about love.
[–]Jackpot807Purple Pill Man5 points6 points7 points (0 children) | Copy Link
this guy sounds like a fucking pansy
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[–]DebatePonyLet's ride!0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
The fact that you can only see two options for relationships means that you don't know how to relationship.
Of course love is real, it takes work and dedication from both parties to make it work though.
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For me, love is lying down on a seldom traveled road in the dead of night, sympathizing with the moon to the tune of the wind through the trees, water across stone, crickets and birds humming the song of creation, and the breath out of my own lungs.
It’s a feeling of appreciation for something that will never know it, and the sense of belonging brought about by something that could never intend it.
EDIT:
Furthermore, it's the longing I feel to share all of this with another person who understands it as I do.
[–]Aaren_AugustineWants a Cookie-1 points0 points1 point (13 children) | Copy Link
Holy fuck. Run some MRP and toughen up. Then step away and construct what you want out of life. Why the fuck did you run to mommy to get answers? You a child?
[–]The-Wizard-of-Oz-[S] 0 points1 point2 points (12 children) | Copy Link
It's not my post FYI. I was curious to see the answer.
As vindictive as your reply is, I have to say I said something similar on the original post.
[–]Aaren_AugustineWants a Cookie0 points1 point2 points (11 children) | Copy Link
Hahaha. Vindictive. I think that's your alt.
[–]Jackpot807Purple Pill Man0 points1 point2 points (10 children) | Copy Link
It’s not an alt you dolt
[–]Aaren_AugustineWants a Cookie0 points1 point2 points (9 children) | Copy Link
Lmfao, dude, that was you? Oh no. How are you fucking purple?
[–]Jackpot807Purple Pill Man0 points1 point2 points (8 children) | Copy Link
Is that supposed to be an insult?
[–]Aaren_AugustineWants a Cookie0 points1 point2 points (2 children) | Copy Link
No, I'm honestly curious as to why youd ask this. Purple suggests you get at least the red part. But you ran to women to get an answer. An answer that's pretty obvious that any dude that did the work would not be running to girls to set their insecurities at ease.
[–]Jackpot807Purple Pill Man0 points1 point2 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Dude chill out
[–]Aaren_AugustineWants a Cookie0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Toughen up, kid.
[–]Maybelowsmv 1 points [recovered] (4 children) | Copy Link
I think ppl on this sub prefer to be more cold with their words and thinking
whats your mbti?
[–]Jackpot807Purple Pill Man0 points1 point2 points (3 children) | Copy Link
INTJ for what it’s worth
[–]Maybelowsmv 1 points [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link
https://introvertdear.com/news/7-secrets-about-dating-an-intj/
the first point seems to resemble how you once said your biggest fear was branch-swinging
[–]Jackpot807Purple Pill Man0 points1 point2 points (1 child) | Copy Link
This is a fun little read, thank you