I'm sick and fucking tired of men who enable women and their "it's not my fault" bullshit victim complex

turbo_blender · 2014-12-05T22:17:00+00:00

SHE IS THE WAY YOU MAKE HER. If you were a real man, she wouldn't be a cunt." Because you know, the fact she has daddy issues and feminism taught her that anything with a dick is a symbolic incarnation of Satan is irrelevant

I think this is partially true, I recently made a post where I claim that if all men on earth made an alliance, women would have no choice but to follow.

The responses I got made me think there are some serious fucking retards here. I got responses like "hey you beta, why do you wanna help betas - BE ALPHA!!!"

those fucking faggots don't understand that each beta is another supporter of feminism. That despised by super cool alpha dawgs beta is gonna most likely become white knight, serve dumb women and force laws which are threats to men. Who do you think introduced divorce rape or alimony law? White Knights did.

That's why I don't like the whole "MGTOW" thing. Men are going their own way separately while feminists are organized like ants and stick together, that allows them to exert pressure on lawmakers, politicians etc. Nobody's gonna care about one single dumb feminist cunt, she's not gonna hurt your reputation or do anything. But when there's massive support of a large crowd behind her, things can become very harsh for us.

I wish more people understood this.

Redpillc0re · 2014-12-06T00:12:44+00:00

You cant have a society full of alphas. Fuck somebody else's wife, both you and the wife go to the ground, that was the law of the past. Fuck whores, sluts, slaves etc, but don't mess with the fabric of society. If the society has given up all pretense of enforcing monogamy on both sexes, then there's no real reason for betas to pay taxes anymore. TRP at least makes it pretty clear to betas what kind of deal they are getting. As for alphas, they have to know that exploiting the system to their gain they are obviously fucking over everyone else.

The solution? some sort of libertarianism. If betas cant get pussy, at least they can guard their belongings. Stop using 'what about the children' as a human shield to justify stealing from everyone else. The west has chosen the path away from the family unit. It's not "the man" who chose it, its us who prefer fucking around . I dont believe in reactionism. Feminism is here to stay and anti-feminism is here to stay too. The family is over.

Lets make a pact, women dont get to say who is good and who is a better man, they just follow their hormonal pathways to fuck who they want. So alphas stop pretending they re the apex of society and betas accept it for what it is : you dont have much control over nature. If one wants to cross to the other side he can try (there s a cost and its not always possible).

There are no "real victims" of feminism or anti-feminism in this world, just winners. Once you accept that and give up on the antiquated notions you grew up with it, it will feel a lot easier.

CrispoFTW22 · 2014-12-06T00:06:11+00:00

Want to know a secret? Most that ideology comes from the random ass men who find this thread, subscribe, and think they're RP gold two weeks in. They post incorrect opinions and others agree with them because they don't know better. There's not enough of the old RP around anymore to correct everyone because the more RP you are, the less you want to be here.

2014-12-05T21:44:08+00:00

Great post, we need to stop giving these women so much damn credit and stop tolerating their bullshit.

Too many men who are naturally high status or guys that increase their SMV get lots of female attention then they go all "women love me bro...they're great...NAWALT...if you would stop being misogynist you will get pussy just like me...blah blah".

Such fools lack the ability to stay true to the game. They get their dicks wet and they go no further. It's intellectual complacency, and they will learn sooner or later when they get screwed over because they neglected to remember their lessons.

BluepillProfessor · 2014-12-05T23:12:50+00:00

Holy shit, what a rant. Love your style IM!

We tell dudes it is your fault/you can change it/ whatever for a good reason. You can't fix anybody else but you CAN fix yourself and how they respond to you. That part is your fault.

However, you are right that some women are just cunts and no amount of game is going to turn her into a sweet, or even tolerable woman. In a marriage you have 2 choices, be in control and have lots of sex or give your wife control and have almost no sex. Well, I guess you actually have 3 because there is also Divorce/Cheating. However, which choice you make is largely up to you.

According to the Bible, it is well known that God Almighty himself was unable to make a woman happy despite giving her, literally, the Garden of Eden. Women’s nature was made clear all the way back in Genesis, Chapter 3 but even more telling than the Biblical account was some early Jewish mysticism that almost, but not quite, made it into the Bible. The writings of the Talmud claim that Adam had a first wife before Eve. However, “Lilith” (who is mentioned several times in the actual Bible) was perhaps the first feminist. She refused to ‘lie beneath’ Adam. Long story, short, she demanded to be on top, to be in control, and apparently she wouldn’t let Adam have sex with her. What did the first human do? What did the perfect man created out of clay by God Almighty Himself do with a woman like that? What can any human do when confronted with this horror? Adam consigned her to the deepest reaches of Hell and chose a new woman. That would be, Eve.

puppet22 · 2014-12-05T21:36:27+00:00

I live in the US and 'cunt' is literally the worst thing you can say to a woman but in the UK is it a more common insult?

2014-12-05T23:08:31+00:00

I don't think many people run tren alone brah

I think a balance needs to be struck between adapting to thriving in the existing (changing) system, and pushing for change. Too far one way or the other and everything gets fucked.

2014-12-06T00:30:46+00:00

It's possible that this quote

And we'll discover that the real victims of modern feminism are, of course, women themselves, who have been left lonelier and less satisfied than they have ever been.

is the author's way of making the typical woman actually care about how she treats the average man like shit. Because let's face it. If the typical woman treats the average man like shit (which she does) then she won't give two shits about the content in the article unless she realizes that "she's actually the victim" since today's western women are basically professional victims.

These women have no sense of agency and so the only way to hold them responsible for their actions is to give them the illusion that they end up being the victim in the end even if it's a result of their own actions. It's just a twisted way of finally making today's western women have some sense of agency. Honestly it probably won't work though due to their princess complex and their entitled attitudes.

Doctor_Mayhem · 2014-12-06T06:49:18+00:00

I'd once again tell you how you're my new, number one favorite commenter on this, but GayLubeOil threatened to rape me.

TheSKSpecial · 2014-12-05T22:12:38+00:00

Its another form of pussy begging. Conforming to women's fickle needs. These guys jump through hoops to get that validation. Until women do the same for men, I see it as supplication. Its always one sided. When someone like 50 Cent or Howard Stern does the same thing like worrying about what women might want instead of what he wants. Then I might consider this a sexual strategy. Its another form of slavery to me. Fuck what women want. We live in an age of porn and globally accessible prostitution with hotter than avg chicks. Yet men are jumping through more hoops than ever and basing their entire existence on what women want. Ive done the PUA thing, and that is what its all about. Pussy. Pussy is god. Im not Mgtow, but I like the fact that they disregard it and replace it with your own wants. And they dont tear each other down because of differences in pussy scoring. Redpill should be about men. Making things easier for men and figuring out best practices. Not looking at how far women have raised the bar and hoping to make it. We should be using out male brains to make things more efficient. Men realized long ago that Constant warring over pussy was not worth it. Thus we had civilization. If nothing else, stop male shaming. Do you see women on Jezebel shaming one another? Why should we?

NightwingTRP · 2014-12-05T22:55:35+00:00

It's such a head fuck that I understand why a lot of guys think "fuck this shit!" and look for escapes. I don't fucking blame 'em, they're doing what they perceive to be the rational thing, they just want to be happy. Most men are simple like that. They don't need all the head games and politics that comes with being in a relationship or even associating with women nowadays.

This links on well with a point I've brought up a couple of times with people around here. On a base psychological level, our minds tend to take the path of least resistance. We alter behaviour when it becomes untenable to sustain a cognition any further. The way you drive a person's actions towards whatever you want is you just make it seem like a reasonable option. People find it hard to reconcile this with things like crime and people leaving the country to go fight for ISIS... but it's really not. Why do you think most crime and most criminals are found in the poor neighbourhoods? Because that's where there is an obvious lack of good quality future if you play by the law. By turning to crime, at least you've got an outside chance of becoming the godfather one day. It may not be great, but it's better than the alternative. Same goes for ISIS. Unlikely to earn much money and have a great life here? Well you can always radicalise and go fight a romanticised war for truth and honour in Syria. And again, it's shown here with the men who're checking out of society and not bothering with women anymore. They see they can't date a decent quality woman. If I can't even date a decent quality woman... who the fuck am I going to marry? The alternative life of video games, movies, porn and whatever bro-nights is quite obviously a much better option than what the alternative looks like. Path of least resistance guys. It's more frightening than we're willing to admit.

OKJaded · 2014-12-06T02:01:47+00:00

I never subscribed to the "as a man, it's your fault she's a cunt IF she's a cunt mantra," and I never will. Some women are just fucking cunts, plain and simple, and you're an idiot if you think you can make poison drinkable, or tame the untameable serpent. It takes a whole fucking society to bring bitches in line, and society has failed all of us.

You're almost there. Someone has to accept responsibility. If everyone shrugs their shoulders and says "wasn't me" we don't move forward. We need to accept that women are untameable serpents and act accordingly.

If you take your pet cobra out of its cage and set it next to you on the couch to watch cartoons with you, you need to understand you will probably get bit. When you have a pet cobra you have the responsibility to get those thick gloves, that long snake stick, and make sure the lid is tight on its cage. Each time you take it out of its cage you are taking responsibility of its actions. If you don't want that responsibility don't get a fucking snake.

Realize AF/BB for what it is. It's the survival tactic of our species that prioritizes the survival of superior genetic material. It's why we have been so successful. Through qualifying tests females segregate males into providers of genetic material or providers of material goods (the crossover is small enough we wont talk about it here). Markers of superior genetic heritage can quickly be visually identified. Physical prowess, genetic fortitude, and resistance to disease can be seen in physical fitness, shiny hair, clean skin. Mental and emotional capacity are quickly discerned from 'Shit Tests'.

Learn to play the game. Even if you decide to not play its still going on all around you. If you don't play the game you are just automatically losing.

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Doctor_Mayhem · 2014-12-06T08:15:37+00:00

You know what's funny? All these idiots who only talk of, "GYM AND TINDA 4 LYFE BRAH! SPIN MOAR PLATES BRO!" remind me of this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZtH0jcQI_w

Welcome to Le Chateau Autiste.

gekkozorz · 2014-12-05T23:40:59+00:00

Great post, but I think we should address Milo's usage of the word "victim" here.

And we'll discover that the real victims of modern feminism are, of course, women themselves, who have been left lonelier and less satisfied than they have ever been.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/victim

"A person who has been attacked, injured, robbed, or killed by someone else."

If I cross the street without looking both ways and get hit by a car, am I a victim? Yes. It was my fault for not being careful, but I still fit the technical definition of the word "victim."

Feminists have taken the word and given it a whole new meaning. If a feminist calls someone a "victim" of rape or abuse, there is an additional subtext that said victim is absolutely 0% responsible for any consequences that befell her, and fuck you if you try to suggest there was anything she could have done to prevent it.

Milo's point here seems to be that feminism has created a sexual economy which sucks for everyone, including themselves. They're "victims" of the system they created, but he's still holding them responsible for creating it.

Just a technicality. Carry on.

TheSKSpecial · 2014-12-05T22:45:10+00:00

Here's the problem: you assign women the proper blame for their part in this fuckup. Okay, now what? They suddenly develop agency? They 'woman up' and tear down feminism? They're not going to take responsibility, they've never taken responsibility. What the fuck do you expect to happen next?

2014-12-05T23:54:14+00:00

Supplicating beta enablers are basically the suck-awful parents who spoil their children rotten and then wonder why they turn out as such horrible brats. To keep up the Matrix analogy, anyone who isn't "unplugged" is potentially an "agent."

krakosia · 2014-12-06T03:09:21+00:00

And we'll discover that the real victims of modern feminism are, of course, women themselves, who have been left lonelier and less satisfied than they have ever been.

Just like the real victims of war are women - as wives and daughters they are left behind having to live their life after losing their loved ones - Hilary Clinton.

2014-12-06T07:41:21+00:00

As a tall, 28 yr old, handsome, well paid, high status white male, who happens to be bi-polar, I've noticed something... I'm dr. Jekyl and Mr. Hyde... When I'm not manic, I'm nice, kind and treat my g/fs very well. They end up cheating on me, leaving me etc. When I'm manic, I can fuck like a porn star and I don't give a fuck about what they think, I just do what I want and they stick to me like white on rice.

It's an unfair mind fuck. You want to treat them well, but it diminishes your value, all the while they tell you they want a nice guy, but really they want the dick (see what I did there?).

However, I see a lot, A LOT, of rage and bitter resentment here. This is the fucking world. The gender atmosphere is what it is. You're best to keep calm and figure out a way to make yourself happy but getting what you want out of life.

As a really well off male, I got fucked over big time so I KNOW HOW RIDICULOUS THINGS CAN BE. But you'll never get anywhere by getting bitter and angry. You need to keep cool and figure out a way to get what you want or make peace with not having what you want. You have to be alpha braaaaaah... No trollin.

whatsazipper · 2014-12-06T14:39:46+00:00

Like many things in life, it's not our fault, but it is our problem. Any number of events can be dumped on us and although we had no part in their doing it's still on us to handle if we want some semblance of sanity.

The case of women is particularly challenging because they defer to either strong leadership or herd consensus, and right now herd consensus says to be a self-destructive cunt. The only way to override this is through leadership, which ain't going to happen outside of the actions of individual men, and even then it's better to work with the least tainted or fucked up women to begin with. Let the others rot.

AppleNewton · 2014-12-06T22:21:14+00:00

As someone who lifts 5 times a week, I say great post. There's a lot of gym rats that get a lot of pussy but they are totally controlled and used by women as tampons, they are not Alpha. Alpha is a behaviour, not a body type. Or should I say, it's a behaviour and mentality that will allow you to build your body, it's a behaviour + body. If someone Works out to get bigger arms strictly because he thinks that's what makes a pussy wet, not because he wants to get big arms for himself because he likes it, he's a mental slave and a Beta right off the bat. Work out to better yourself, because you like yourself, getting a lot of pussy is just one of the consequences of having a great body.

phillip42069 · 2014-12-05T22:44:48+00:00

This was incredibly refreshing to read! Great post OP. The reminder that the poison of a woman's victim complex/hamster, and trying to make that poison drinkable, resonated with me. That's no bullshit and only a fool or blue piller would argue otherwise.

nallalalla · 2014-12-06T04:59:07+00:00

I see men in TRP doing that shit too "don't be mad at tuh womenz brah, u just bitter OK? I get LOADSA PUSSY, you gotta lift and man up brah, stop being bitter brah"

Thanks for this; my first thought reading the post title was that I've seen a ton of this shit lately in TRP.

ValarMorghulis90 · 2014-12-06T06:24:24+00:00

God this post was fucking amazing lol. He really gets it.

iopq · 2014-12-06T13:58:16+00:00

For some reason, there are a sub-section of men who want to go to bat for women, and the more pussy your typical man gets, the more he thinks "hey you know what, women are fine, I have great times with them, you must be the problem BRAAAAHHHH ain't nothing wrong with women BRAAAAAAAH you're the problem BRAAAAAAAAAAH."

I've actually encountered the opposite. THE LESS guys get laid the more they whiteknight in hopes of getting some woman who feels sorry enough for them being "so nice" yet alone. The guys who have success with women get called out for being "mysoginists" or "chauvinists".

2014-12-06T16:08:02+00:00

Awesome fucking angry rant! I honestly enjoyed reading it all. Spot on mate.

bama79rolltide · 2014-12-06T18:57:45+00:00

I love when coaches keep it real and call out the players.

2014-12-06T20:00:02+00:00

yeah this is what I have seen too. Also, usually the jacked white knights are the ones who are in a LTR. Most of the people I see who do this are virgins who have no clue about the true nature of women, or guys who have only been in a few LTRs.

But, the men who regularly spin plates and are also ripped and jacked know what women are truly like, since they have been with so many women an encounter them in the most personal of ways on a regular basis. Most of the steroid users I have come across have also acknowledged to me that most women are hypergamous and should not be trusted. They are also huge anti-feminists. ALso these same guys have been telling me of how marriage is a shit option for men now

R4F1 · 2014-12-07T07:26:35+00:00

Men always want to go to bat for women, and that shit fucks me off. It must be genetic or some shit because I see men in TRP doing that shit too "don't be mad at tuh womenz brah, u just bitter OK? I get LOADSA PUSSY, you gotta lift and man up brah, stop being bitter brah" I get fucking tired of that retarded trite dumb testosterone monkeys spit. Fucking retards who lift a bit of metal and fuck a bit of pussy who are totally ignorant to what's going on, but think they're a boss because they can get laid and are constantly high on fucking TREN and a post workout buzz. Just because you lift and get laid, doesn't mean society isn't fucked up. Their opinions on life and women are basically some retarded flow chart...

For some reason, there are a sub-section of men who want to go to bat for women, and the more pussy your typical man gets, the more he thinks "hey you know what, women are fine, I have great times with them, you must be the problem BRAAAAHHHH ain't nothing wrong with women BRAAAAAAAH you're the problem BRAAAAAAAAAAH." They don't wanna explore really what the fuck is up. It's just the guys fault. It's close-minded bullshit. Fuck exploring shit, and god forbid blaming a woman, they are poor innocent wittle victimz and as a man, it's all your fault if she's a cunt! The old hypoagent-hyperagent bait and switch gets annoying (men take blame for everything, women get blamed for nothing.)

It's basically that Elitist/Uncle Tom/House-nigger mentality. Like when you see rappers throwing around illuminati signs. Just because you got some money and fame, or in this case got game with some women, doesn't mean shit. People like to think they're better than the rest, so they start posing.

in_da_tr33z · 2014-12-06T05:48:54+00:00

Broham here really needs a pump right now.

IllimitableMan · 2014-12-06T16:45:47+00:00

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IllimitableMan · 2014-12-05T23:35:04+00:00

I think you'll find more synergy with your outlook with the MGTOW community. RP is about building self confidence, (yes) getting laid, and, very importantly, not spending our entire lives as pissed off as you currently are. Look at how much power you are giving women over you! There's fucking steam coming out of your ears! If you want to show women that you don't give a shit about them, stop letting them under your skin.

AFPJ · 2014-12-06T00:24:01+00:00

Male desperation enables female degeneracy, if we did not tolerate such behavior it would not exist. No amount of welfare can alleviate their innate psychological instability: only a strong, masculine figure can grant them serenity which is why women need men. We have the upper hand & succeed individually yet still manage to fail collectively.

Men crave pussy but have the gift of being able to override our instincts. Due to our ancestor's mistakes we must now use that ability collectively to achieve what the socioeconomic system used to enforce intrinsically. We're in an age where the majority of men suffer consequences for actions of the lowest men, much like one bad poker player fucks up the game for an entire table: since you can't change desperate men you might as well just go lift, faggots.

FrameDestroyer · 2014-12-06T07:55:41+00:00

Problem is you're WRONG buddy. Hating on the way things are - biologically and culturally - something you have negligible control over is just a SHITTY FRAME.

The fact that you get so angsty and angry about it all makes it an even SHITTIER FRAME.

It just broadcasts your own insecurities, just letting you know...

There's no use being angry at reality, see things as they are, and then use it to your OWN advantage. pretty simple, GL if you take my advice and let go of the (sexual) frustration 😉

BrunoOh · 2014-12-05T22:38:35+00:00

I do think that in the end women are worse off.

Men can live solitary much better than women can. Women need the dominance and rationality a man brings in their lives. We don't need what they can do that our buddies and sex bots/hookers can't: kids.

forgetful_storytellr · 2014-12-06T00:20:11+00:00

You're upset - clearly. You are ranting on an internet forum.

Ask yourself this: what can you really do about this?

The answer is virtually nothing. The one thing you can do, however, is control yourself, and your own actions. Whining like a bitch isn't going to solve the societal issues you so despise.

I recommend you worry more about yourself-- don't worry about what you cannot change. These are external actors that will not listen to logic or reason.

You're right, people are stupid. Use that to your advantage, rather than wishing everyone were as 'enlightened' as you.

You may just end up a little less bitter in the process.

Human_v2 · 2014-12-06T08:32:48+00:00

This has to be one of the most pathetic things I've seen you write. It's the normal posturing of someone who doesn't have their shit together.

People who are bigger than me and are fucking more girls? They're stupid idiots and aren't really men.

I get the idea, society is going down the shitter and men are enabling it but it has always been like this in TRP. It has never really been about whining about society, only how to function in the mess.

The reason this shit resonates with so many people is it allows others who aren't coping to have an outlet and someone to blame for their misery. I get it, honestly I do, I'm just an average guy and I feel the same pains but this post is genuinely nothing but whining over your inability to cope in the harsh environment when others are.

There's a reason you conspicuously didn't respond to GLO's post in your last comment thread and it's because you're writing weak minded shit that resonates with and comforts others.

In fact in writing that I start to suspect it's purely marketing for your blog and to resonate with the greatest number possible. I can't really fault you for that, it's just a shame everyone laps up this bullshit.

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Bearhardy · 2014-12-05T21:47:55+00:00

U mad brah? No but really people are fucking stupid

Title	I'm sick and fucking tired of men who enable women and their "it's not my fault" bullshit victim complex
Author	IllimitableMan
Upvotes	377
Comments	160
Date	December 5, 2014 9:27 PM UTC (9 years ago)
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