What do YOU think RP is?

goatismycopilot · 2018-03-19T20:16:42+00:00

Get more bitches to suck muh dick and cook muh meals. Fuck sluts. Marry virgins. Submit, clean, cook. Be hot, fat laydee people boo hiss, go away. Menz is bridge building Alexander the Greats oppressed by feminists. Feminists bad. Bad. Bad. Communism. Berry Bad. Lift.

TheChemist158 · 2018-03-19T21:26:45+00:00

What do YOU think RP concepts or core beliefs are?

In terms of practical advice?

Don't get married
Lift
Don't take anything she says seriously
Don't invest too much into any given woman
If a woman isn't responding well or seems like trouble, drop her
Do what you want, not what she wants

I could go on but I think you get the point. For the theory, some key ideas

Masculinity is good
Feminism is bad
Women are emotional/irrational
Women are not loyal and will leave/cheat readily if a better man comes along
You should lead in any relationship you have with a woman
You need to be "better" than her (better looking, more money, more confident, different people have different measures.

Again, I could go on but I think this is enough.

themoderation · 2018-03-19T18:48:49+00:00

Women are hypergamous
Women are branch swingers
Women don’t know what they want, but I do.
Women don’t love you, only what you can do for them.
Women love rough sex and to be demeaned because that’s true feminine nature.
There are no such things as types. All women like the same type of man. Any woman who says differently is a liar or is ignorant.
AWALT. Women are not individuals.
All men can be put into catagories of alpha, beta, and omega. These catagories are not relative because women are not individuals.
Non- “alpha” dudes in relationships must all be Beta providers, because no woman could ever want to be with a caring smart guy that DOESN’T act like a the stereotype of a high school jock from an 80s movie.
Emotionally manipulate women to get them to stay. This is the only way to keep a woman because women are all branch swingers. Make them fear you leaving by making sure they depend on you emotionally and then hinting that you might leave at any time.
These two ‘truths’ somehow exist simultaneously: 1. The best woman is a woman who wants to stay at home and raise her children. ‘Career women’ are ball busters. 2. Women are lazy leeches because they don’t ‘work as hard’ at their careers like men. All they want is to stay at home with the kids all day and use some guy as a meal ticket. They do not contribute society.
All women live life on “easy mode” This is because of how easy it is to get laid, which is apparently what matters in life! Discrimination, sexual violence, and misogyny are just little inconveniences. No one hates women or thinks they’re incapable these days! Especially not us.
Solve your inferiority complex by adopting a superiority complex. Treat women like children. Never just treat them like the equals that they are.

As a lesbian who’s been with more than my fair share of bisexuals, I find these little beliefs positively hilarious. Is the plan to attract the most unstable and damaged women and then confirm to yourself that women are awful? You play stupid games, you win stupid prizes. But what do I know? I’m just a woman who dates women. I probably don’t know anything about being a woman or dating women.

BluepillProfessor · 2018-03-19T20:57:50+00:00

Dating advice for guys without morality or empathy.

MelodramaticMouse · 2018-03-19T17:40:27+00:00

Lurking around the pill subs, I see mostly guys bitching about women acting like women, and on the women's subs, well, I don't know what the hell they are doing!

Taipanshimshon · 2018-03-19T17:43:24+00:00

Man I wish this sub had some functionality where you could mouseover someone's username and get a popup of their self-filed in definitions for stuff like this.

Found RP while married so take that for what you will. All of these are open to CMV as I actually believe them based on my own experience with women :/. Also of course NAWALT - but in my experience Enough Women Are Like That that you can't ignore this stuff.

"hypergamy" = higher status than her or other men relative to her internal experience/value structure is fundamental to her attraction. That means you're the one setting the tempo/direction of things, and are charged with her feeling safely 'taken care of' by something stronger.

"Just Get It" = Asking her for the answers precludes you from satisfying hypergamy. Really hate this one. "I shouldn't have to tell him what I want" comes from women on the regular.

"You can't negotiate attraction" = you can't "should" someone into actually wanting to bang you.

"No such thing as unconditional love" = You're likely to find a tight correlation between love from a woman and how well you're doing in life.

"not taking womens' words at face value" = if she just doesn't want to bang you then more often than not you'll get the nearest reachable plausible reason, and there will always be one of those so good luck getting to the bottom of that list. Also this stuff.

"oldest teenager in the house" = unfortunate implication of hypergamy above; If you're going to torpedo your marriage by truly treating her as an equal instead of "letting her drive a bunch of the time", how else should you treat her? For me the worst part of RP. Please CMV.

80/20 = any given woman's sexual radar is going to be selective to some approximation of this regardless of what the actual parameters are. It's an in-built relative thing though, I think it works on social cues in interactions between men.

Alpha/Beta = sort of a reframing of 80/20 but also including stuff that most people imagine is stuff an alpha would have been like in whatever tribal village situation we seemed to evolve in.

The existence of 'soft no's' = mixture of "Just get it" and "not taking womens' words at face value". Also leads to fun & games with issues of consent.

There's more but those are some of the common/core ones.

TheChemist158 · 2018-03-19T21:15:03+00:00

All of them are wrong, starting with the fact that there is no ideology. But fine, lets hash this out.

This is a frustrating stance. There are lots of red pillers, and each one has different thoughts about TRP. Given the challenge to explain some RP concept I might give some commonly held ideas on it. And a RPer might say I don't understand because I'm not explaining his personal take on it. But from my perspective there are countless men all describing slightly different ideas of a concept and saying their idea is the real one. It's frustrating.

Example: women are teenagers/children. Some reds think that women are biologically designed to stop maturing in their teen years. Or we can continue to mature but society babys us and prevents it. Or we do actually mature normally, but like it when men take charge/tease us and thinking of us like children helps that. I've heard all these descriptions and going in I don't know which one you ascribe to. It's not my short coming if I give a version you disagree with, it's just a product of the heterogeneity of your group.

Electra_Cute · 2018-03-19T17:25:17+00:00

A rhetorical device used to justify a position or piece. One just says “RP is X” and that is what it is. I used to think I had the definition at one point, until I realized everyone has their own personal definition.

sublimemongrel · 2018-03-19T17:10:21+00:00

Probably the definition most people could agree on would be that RP is a “sexual strategy” sub/materials with prescriptive and descriptive theories. Interpretation of those theories is a bit all over the place.

Cho_Assmilk · 2018-03-19T17:12:48+00:00

Essentially, it's simply achieving Rule Zero. Whatever means a man uses to do so is his personal choice. There are theories/beliefs/philosophies that are tried/tested/true. When the dust settles though, helping a man attract women through honesty is all that matters.

Artpop_ · 2018-03-19T18:00:36+00:00

It's PUA combined with a bunch of other advice.

ellieectrode · 2018-03-19T18:14:38+00:00

Nerdy, sexually submissive guys trying to attract the attention of and mate with basic bitches. And a whole lot of bitterness and rage.

Priene · 2018-03-19T18:50:44+00:00

Absolute and utter garbage, created by a bunch of middle-aged men whose hair and waistline went into outer spaces decades and decades before the women they lust after were even born, co-opted by Ethnic minorities from India, China, and the Middle-East; guys who are ''average'' in their own Countries but can't get laid in the USA because they only have eyes for white, tall women(or they claim the women from their own races are only interested in tall white chad), then we have the mentally ill guys who never talk to women but want women to approach them, we have the guys who claim to be average while making the ground they walk on shake with the gravity of their bodies, and then we have the armchair evo-psychologists who claim women are hypergamous, have sexual standards that are much higher than that of the ''average'' man, and that women practice a dual strategy of 'alpha fux, beta bux.''

All absolute and utter nonsense.

storffish · 2018-03-19T17:04:36+00:00

lonely introverts roleplaying on reddit.

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gasparddelanuit · Mon Mar 19 19:11:40 2018 UTC

What do YOU think RP is?

The RP is a rejection of unconvincing, implausible and discredited common BP narratives regarding men, women and the dynamics between them, in the light of greater knowledge, observation and experience.

There are no static or universal RP beliefs, but there is a determination to dispassionately uncover unvarnished realities about the subject at hand, to create a more accurate and less wishful picture than BP narratives have managed, using all available knowledge and experience.

MyPasswordisPutin · 2018-03-19T17:16:41+00:00

A bunch of guys swapping notes.

goatismycopilot · 2018-03-19T18:09:07+00:00

Red pill was started by Roosh and Rollo so it is whatever they claim it to be.

RedWinter88 · 2018-03-19T20:33:47+00:00

*because you simply do not notice all the ones who are not.

Also does not take into account if these “average” guys are getting the women they really want or just settling for what’s currently available at the club.

rainisthelife · 2018-03-19T22:51:17+00:00

Male entitlement and hypocrisy.

An echo chamber for men to basically validate each other almost to the point of homoeroticism.

Ordinate1 · 2018-03-20T03:21:15+00:00

My impression of RP is the idea that many of the prevalent cultural concepts, specifically about gender relations, are mistaken if not outright lies.

Well, yea, but how does that distinguish them from anything else in society? This is all a big fiction that human beings have, over time, assembled, and its only redeeming feature is that it works.

ganso_bum · 2018-03-20T06:34:45+00:00

I think red pill is what works on women.

Blue pill is a combination of guys who already naturally utilize red pill ("Just be yourself" works for them because they just naturally do the right things anyways), and men who believe whatever popular culture tells them about women and dating but whose results may vary.

Like the Matrix, the Red Pill knows what's going on is learning to exploiting the system, Blue Pill just exists in their world and that may work naturally and it may not not work naturally.

[deleted] · 2018-03-20T06:44:46+00:00

Overall it's the backlash of today's feministic cultural landscape in western society which make men feel devalued, used and attacked.

AFBB - If a man is in a LTR with a woman who was not virginal and young in the beginning of the relationship, he is automatically a beta bucks regardless of context. On the internet it is hard to understand the complexity of other's IRL relationships. Simple rules like this is created to protect men by reducing the chance of them becoming a beta.

Frame - Do not show vulnerability to the opposite sex. Again a simple rule to protect men from feeling rejected.

AWALT - All women are capable of hurting men. There is no angel among the group. Putting women on a pedestal leads to disappointment. Be prepared to get hurt.

Women, the most responsible teenager in the house - Women are immature. Don't trust them with responsibilities that you wouldn't trust a teenager to do.

TRP is a defense mechanism. It's for risk averse men. By implementing TRP strategies it give men control over their lives by preventing financial/parental/relationship struggles with the opposite sex. TRP also prevents BP style love of feeling safe and secure in the relationship because of the lack of trust. It's a trade off.

ReluctantSlimeball · 2018-03-20T12:42:52+00:00

Actions not words.

jkonrad · 2018-03-20T13:31:41+00:00

It’s just sexual strategy. The sub functions as a support group for men with masculinity issues. They learn an array of self-help and coping mechanisms, and the ones further along on their journey help the noobs. It seems to work really well, I’ve seen some great success stories.

ENOUGH_TRUMP_SPAM_ · 2018-03-19T18:51:31+00:00

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Title	What do YOU think RP is?
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